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Quote from: beerlover on March 04, 2022, 02:05:35 PM

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I know we dont want more troubles, but some people of the "gambling" mindset just cant face life without some risks and those are the people I was referring to. To them no risk means no fun. They need treatment indeed but there is lacking of the same.

Also I wish you all the best because of the problems that you are facing and I am sure you fight out of it. Keep holding bitcoin, the majority of the users are doing the same. Dont waste money on casinos and trying to do leverage or any other risky investments.

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I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

It makes sense to me, but newbies will not have the patience to hold and they will either buy at the high or sell at the low, making the entire investment a huge loss.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 01, 2022, 06:56:12 PM

As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those
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Yes, but for me, this is not effective because if you decided to trade or before buying a trade like on the spot market, you don't have any plan? Like your entry price, price target, and stop-loss? Because if you hold your position instead of cutting your losses, it will not make you a good trader, to be honest. I already experienced this before when I'm just starting and most.
In short, don't mary your altcoins.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 01, 2022, 06:56:12 PM

As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those

unrealized losses or floating negatives unlike when you are liquidated which is a different story.When it comes to swings then this is similar or same with trend trading on which you do stick out on a
particular timeframe and observe some biases specially on 1d to 1wk TF which technicals could really be seen.

I think in this way as well, losing money in the markets is completely normal and it could even be said that it is to be expected, however the moment you begin to use leverage that is the moment everything can go awfully wrong as you are multiplying your risk many times over, and the worst thing is that I do not really see the benefit out of it, after all if you are using a good money management strategy the moment your risk increases then that is the moment the capital used on each trade should go down, negating the whole purpose of using leverage on the first place.

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From my perspective swing trading is capitalized base on the essence of what you can risk during investment and it won't affect your capital or financial reservoirs, actually it's nice to hold because the proportion or the gain you can possessed can't be of same velocity compare to daily trading, because swing trading is a strategies a qualified trader or investors used to buy an asset and hold for time frame in order for it to describe or narrate it's profit expectations

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I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama?

You did not lie, the past 2 years has been probably the most intense for the world. We can say three because covid came on us in 2019. Who knows what hardship and health crisis this war will also add. This makes me feel sad. I suspect there are users in this forum who are directly in Ukraine and from Ukraine, I pray for their safety. We do not want death record of our members.

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Quote from: beerlover on March 04, 2022, 02:05:35 PM

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

Unlike you not everyone can hodl coins for that long and keep buying more to add up. It is really nice for you if you kind of being able to do this. Hodling coins is good but something might crop up like family emergency, health issue and shelter then we can sell to take care of our lives.

By the way you are emphasising on war going on, are you from Ukraine? If you are, my sympathy to you and your country men.

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But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

That drama is what makes alot of inventors turn traders because they want to quickly swing for profit and then get back on the project with more. There is someone somewhere who will never consider swinging at all even when it is obvious that the token will dump. These ones do not like taking risk and they will be the first to accept that holding is safer. I like to hold most times too but it is not that am afraid of risk. It is mostly because I want to keep that token.

I do not know, why would I want to get drama in my life? I mean don't we all have it already? Since 2020, we had pandemic, I had some family emergencies, some health crisis unrelated to covid, now war, and plenty other things in between as well, this past 2 years has been probably worst in my life already. I do not get why we need more drama? That could be the reason why I am in long term holding as well, it just makes sense that way and I could be making a decent return by simply holding and ignoring everything.

I just buy and hold and keep it there, and that's all I do, I do not care about anything else. Doesn't that make more sense to you? I am not saying that it should be profiting a lot, it may not, it may take a while but it is calming and relaxing way to do it.

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Quote from: awik p on March 01, 2022, 10:04:06 PM

whether swing trading, or long trading and short trading, all have their own advantages and disadvantages. many actually do all three, which have different levels of risk so they have different treatments. indeed day trading is more complicated than swing, but it can be used as daily income for every trader

You mentioned that they all have advantages and disadvantages. Therefore no one is more complicated than the other is just the way we have learnt differently. Some one that swings may not enjoy daily or scalping kind of trade because simply, they don't understand it and likewise for a daily trader may not like swing because it takes you lots of time. It is a matter of preference. Like another man's meat and another man's fish is preferred.

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It depends on how you can handle the risk before I do just holding my assets and let it take profit for me, but I try to learn with the use of trading indicators and technical analysis. This serves as a guide to me when is the best ideal time to buy in the market and keep holding and when to sell my assets and take profit.

If you can handle the risk and already decide to lose your money, make a good market decision; the higher the risk or create a safe play trade.

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I think better all in with trading and earn profit in daily day without have to hold for long term, I think $1000 salary using for trading is more enough reach about $50 until $100 profit in daily day, but not sure or guarantee you can take profit on daily day depending with bitcoin and altcoin price dump or pump how faster. I think looks as potential with daily trading if you have amount $1,000 and looks worth if try long term holding but you need patience and waiting because looking potential coin as long term holding is not easy with market price still not stable.

This is also good advice, but I will underline, if can manage swing trading well, it's fine. But if not? then it's better not to try, because I'm afraid that $1000 money will be forfeited.

TopT3ns is absolutely right, by using $1000 it is very easy to make a profit of $50 to $100 with swing trades, of course there is also a risk of losing $50 to $100 too.

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Yes, scalping and day trading is too risky, I have tried many times and always lost money Sad

. Now I am just doing swing trading and holding some coins for long term. I think scalping is for those who has big experience and know some good strategies.
I suggest Newbies to avoid Scalping Or Day Trading. It is too risky.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on March 03, 2022, 04:40:42 AM

Quote from: Woodie on March 03, 2022, 03:15:41 AM

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

That drama is what makes alot of inventors turn traders because they want to quickly swing for profit and then get back on the project with more. There is someone somewhere who will never consider swinging at all even when it is obvious that the token will dump. These ones do not like taking risk and they will be the first to accept that holding is safer. I like to hold most times too but it is not that am afraid of risk. It is mostly because I want to keep that token.

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Actually, a few weeks ago, I tried sewing trading and discovered that it truly works for me. I bought KCS from KuCoin exchange around $17 and sold when the market started to bounce back at $21. Although the profit was little, at least I didn't lose. I prefer swing trading over holding coins because I don't have peace of mind when I hold them; I'm always worrying about when they'll rise and checking them, so I end up selling them after a few weeks. It's preferable for me to conduct swing trading.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 03, 2022, 10:22:38 AM

swing trading usually using 3hr - 1D time frame thats why dont need read chart all the time and always entry on pullback. just adjust it with your trading plan and money management .

Swing trading takes more than 3 hours to a day, those are scalping and day trading, swing trading can take days to weeks and also few months.

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 03, 2022, 10:22:38 AM

Haha this type of trading happens in just the imagination of a trader, in reality even if you do swing trade you will wake up every day and see the market, every day you will seek validation for your trading idea from the market

Do not get me wrong, swing traders are not taking risks like scalpers and day traders, swing traders are patient and trade healthily which is what I am talking about. Because someone is a holder, that does not mean he will not also check the market daily also but they are not disturbed by not checking the market frequently like scalpers and day traders.

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If you can hold than i will prefer Holding because it is totally safe method to get profit. You Will not loss money until you sell. Profit is low but safe and long term.
If you can afford risk and strong backup then try swingtrade for big profit.

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Both are good, Swing or hold. If I have money $1000, I will split it, $200 for swing trade and $800 for holding crypto assets like BTC. The reason I use $200 for swing trades is that swing trades can give us unexpected profits depending on the leverage we use. If we can swing trade well, the profits we get will be large and stable. But of course there is a big risk if we can't swing trade correctly in analyzing and determining the direction of price movement.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

Haha this type of trading happens in just the imagination of a trader, in reality even if you do swing trade you will wake up every day and see the market, every day you will seek validation for your trading idea from the market, you would want the market to hit the target but the market won't be in your favour so you will revisit your idea and now the second problem comes in, let's say it hits your stop loss, you will wait for the market to just correct rather than taking your money out, which means you will be facing the problem of limited capital too if you block everything in a losing trade. No matter what type of trading you are doing the struggle remains the same, yes you can avoid liquidation but Hold on to losing trades is as bad as liquidation only.

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Swing trader is beneficial but is also risky like day trading and it involves gradual ups and down in price but one thing is that if you participate by using more cash will give you huge money in return and if you engage with low price will overcome your lose chances but the profit will also be lower. You can make wealthier with swing trading if you give much attention to it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

swing trading usually using 3hr - 1D time frame thats why dont need read chart all the time and always entry on pullback. just adjust it with your trading plan and money management .

Scalping   Short term
Day trading   Short term
Swing trading   Short/medium term
Position trading   Long-term

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Swing trading could be a better choice over holding if you want to grow your money but have to keep in mind that in trading, every single mistake will make us lose. Thus, if we are not afraid of doing this, taking more risks, this will be suitable for us.
Well, I can say about my life that I was taking both, I HOLD and do some SWING trading together but I often just hold if the market is on the correction. And I just get back to trading when the market turns good. we have to consider the time and the market trend for us to gain positive results.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on March 03, 2022, 07:33:56 AM

Actually both are good, if you can swing trade then do it, if you can't because you're not confident about your current knowledge then just hodl or do stock trading instead. There's no point on using your money to something risky as trading, the answer would depends on your capability as a person who knows cryptocurrency.

That's right, it all comes back again depending on the ability of each of us,
I think that's why we need to master some skills as well as knowledge,
most importantly it is better to minimize risk because if we just do swing trading without having basic knowledge and skills then it will be risky

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Actually both are good, if you can swing trade then do it, if you can't because you're not confident about your current knowledge then just hodl or do stock trading instead. There's no point on using your money to something risky as trading, the answer would depends on your capability as a person who knows cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: redsun114 on March 01, 2022, 10:24:11 PM

Swing trading is good, Holding is also good. But not all of us can afford to have the level of patience that it is going to take us to be able to make a good amount of profit from being a HODL’er in the market. People that I have seen that were able to realize huge profit were those that held for a very long time especially before a halving and the price went up and once it reached what seems to be the peak they decide to sell.

I have been able to do this though, but the level of patience is not easy, depending on when you started though; if you’re starting prior to the market experiencing a correction, then you might have to wait longer. Swing trading , you can be making profit at anytime. It’s all about choice and if you can do swing trading.

Both holding and swing trading have pros and cons, however if you want long term maximum profit then you should go for the holding. Swing trading is best if you are well equiped with trading knowlegde and expereince and you need to earn money on a consistant basis.
You can do both holding and trading. Invest 50% of your portfolio in good coins for long term. From the remaining of the 50% portfolio, you can use that fund for swing trades.

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Quote from: Woodie on March 03, 2022, 03:15:41 AM

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

HODL is safer than anything else. But we all want to stay in a bit of an action and some drama because we are humans. Grin

So for the ones who want to play it safe, a buy low sell high approach works. Just take care of the fact that market movements sometimes dont stop and then you need to wait it out or buy even lower. The ones who panic here and have a general lack of faith in cryptocurrencies will be the ones who falter.

Even then there will be more methods for a exchange company to squeeze money out of your pocket by introducing newer methods of playing with risk. It is your choice whether you want to use them or not and whether it suits you. Spot is good if you ask me. Taking the rest of them only adds in risk to your portfolio.

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Swing trading is only nice when the trade is going your direction, otherwise if it goes against what you expected or predicted it certainly will eat through your capital and depending on how much crypto/money is on your account margin calls will be the notifications you be seeing as a liquidation call.

But between the two i would go for swing trades over holding, had it been 10 years ago when volatility was aggressive i would say hodl.

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Quote from: iv4n on March 02, 2022, 04:14:27 PM

Then you should start your swing trading with $50-$100! Trade only with top coins, it's less risky, if you get trapped add more money and try again, but keep those coins you bought for the next run, it will come sooner or later! You can't trade with your entire capital, you will come to the point where you will not have options and you will be forced to make some desperate move! In trading mistakes cost money, never forget that!

The desperate move someone can have is when the leverage used is too high. Trading with altcoins is risky, using bitcoin will be good, or some top coins like ethereum and litecoin but it is good to be careful as they are more volatile than bitcoin. $100 is too low for swing trading, you can open position for weeks until the market favors you and you gained, but it depends on individual. $100 will be good for scalping and day trading but not for swing trading or the profit will be very low and not encouraging

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

Swing trading is not kind of active trading hence it must be shorter version of holding Cheesy

. Yeah, if you are able to predict the turning point of markets then you can go for swing trading. If you try to catch short term swings then that will lead to scalping which is one of the worst strategy in day trading at least for crypto markets.

For example, if you were able to predict bitcoin market's ATH by December 2017 and if you have managed to sell your one bitcoin around $18k to 19k levels then you might have got chances to buy back for 4x gains when bitcoin crashed to below $4k by December 2018. Same could be the another scenario where bitcoin crashed from $64k to $28k in 2021.

Swing trading needs fundamental analysis along with little bit technical analysis whereas holding just need only fundamental things hence holding is suitable for all and most other things including swing trading is suitable for "traders only".

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

If you have like $1000 to trade...

Then you should start your swing trading with $50-$100! Trade only with top coins, it's less risky, if you get trapped add more money and try again, but keep those coins you bought for the next run, it will come sooner or later! You can't trade with your entire capital, you will come to the point where you will not have options and you will be forced to make some desperate move! In trading mistakes cost money, never forget that!

Quote from: ReiMomo on March 02, 2022, 12:22:28 PM

Holding would be the best option I would prefer. Yes Swing trading is a good option but it requires constant attention on the market and it takes away the energy and time. Day trading / swing trading will bring small profits but yes it would be interesting and you can learn a lot but at the same time when market does not move as you expect, you would loose patience and money as well. Holding yes requires attention on the market and patience is so important and this is what will bring a huge profit.

Well, holding is holding, we all should have some holdings, but we should also have some fun here and there and maybe make some profit! Why not explore the crypto world? There are so many opportunities around us that we can try and if it turns out that we can be good at it we can even make some profit! It's risky, but what isn't in this life? Sometimes risking what you can afford to lose and having fun is all it takes to learn more about the world around you, and yes sometimes it will turn out to be a mistake (we also learn from that), but sometimes you can find something interesting that can be also profitable!

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Quote from: doomloop on March 02, 2022, 08:02:15 AM

Everything you’re doing the cryptocurrency market has to do with investing with what you can afford to lose. I don’t think there is anything you would do in this market that you wouldn’t have to be careful and only invest what you can lose, since everything you’re doing in the market involves risk. Even HODL involves risk, same as when you’re doing swing trading.

So, risk are always involved no matter what you choose, because it’s still the same cryptocurrency that you’re dealing and the price will keep on going up and down. For me, I don’t really have that much choice, I do the both of them. HODL seems like a normal thing that anyone would do, I believe that most of us has coins that are stored in one of our secure wallets and we are not touching it. Then we have the ones that we keep on exchanges that we use for whatever trading we choose to do.

There are levels of risks involved though. Like holding for years has a lot less risk whereas swing trading has more risks, and high leverage trading has even more risks. So, you are right that everything has a risk, but that doesn't change the fact that you are going to end up with something a lot less risky with the holding part, and a big more risks with swing trading. Doesn't mean that you should be going for something like holding just because it has less risk.

If you are willing to part with your money and it is money that you are willing to lose and risk, then you could do even 150x leverage on shorting bitcoin right now, that's risky but if you are right then it worths a lot of money.

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Holding would be the best option I would prefer. Yes Swing trading is a good option but it requires constant attention on the market and it takes away the energy and time. Day trading / swing trading will bring small profits but yes it would be interesting and you can learn a lot but at the same time when market does not move as you expect, you would loose patience and money as well. Holding yes requires attention on the market and patience is so important and this is what will bring a huge profit.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress

These is true if you are swing traders you don't need so much time to monitor your trade because sometimes it takes days or weeks before you can reach your target profit.

and lastly it depends on the situation of the growth rate of your coin if its all accurate based on your speculation. I mean if you don't see any negative sign its all fine to hold..

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

Yhup most trades when it comes swing trading has not good results at first, but after all you still can win because market makes correction based of the structure of the market and keep following the real trend in the graph.

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

Actually if you're using leverage it depends which for you is good to use. I mean if you are really comfortable in your strategy i would say even higher leverage is good to use especially if you have good risk management it will be fine.

However if you don't have trust on your strategy, i think much better to rely with 1x and don't try your luck with higher leverage to prevent massive losses.

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Listen, everyone wants to make money from trading, no one wants to lose anyway. So the swing trade was easier than everyone would move there. But it's not what you are thinking. Always not happen what we expect exactly in our life. Same as swing trade is risky as well. It's very important to know technical analysis to predict the chart movements for swing traders where holding is easier. Swing is almost day trading just a matter of time duration.

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Swing trading is the best strategy if your money you are risking is what you can afford to lose since you will highly dependent on your price setup and you can have a terrible lose if the price moves in different direction to your target selling point. I believe holding is still the best in crypto due to its volatility, you can have a profit without a stressful trading if you will ignore paper loss. But of course this discussion ill be highly case to case basis and expect more objective answer to come.

Everything you’re doing the cryptocurrency market has to do with investing with what you can afford to lose. I don’t think there is anything you would do in this market that you wouldn’t have to be careful and only invest what you can lose, since everything you’re doing in the market involves risk. Even HODL involves risk, same as when you’re doing swing trading.

So, risk are always involved no matter what you choose, because it’s still the same cryptocurrency that you’re dealing and the price will keep on going up and down. For me, I don’t really have that much choice, I do the both of them. HODL seems like a normal thing that anyone would do, I believe that most of us has coins that are stored in one of our secure wallets and we are not touching it. Then we have the ones that we keep on exchanges that we use for whatever trading we choose to do.

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Swing trading is good, Holding is also good. But not all of us can afford to have the level of patience that it is going to take us to be able to make a good amount of profit from being a HODL’er in the market. People that I have seen that were able to realize huge profit were those that held for a very long time especially before a halving and the price went up and once it reached what seems to be the peak they decide to sell.

I have been able to do this though, but the level of patience is not easy, depending on when you started though; if you’re starting prior to the market experiencing a correction, then you might have to wait longer. Swing trading , you can be making profit at anytime. It’s all about choice and if you can do swing trading.

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whether swing trading, or long trading and short trading, all have their own advantages and disadvantages. many actually do all three, which have different levels of risk so they have different treatments. indeed day trading is more complicated than swing, but it can be used as daily income for every trader

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As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those

unrealized losses or floating negatives unlike when you are liquidated which is a different story.When it comes to swings then this is similar or same with trend trading on which you do stick out on a
particular timeframe and observe some biases specially on 1d to 1wk TF which technicals could really be seen.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

If you only have 1000 dollars to your name to trade then most likely the level of experience you have while swing trading is low and as such the answer to your question is simple, do not use leverage at all, there is a concept called risk of bankruptcy and this basically tells you how likely it is that you will lose all your capital while you trade, and anything other than zero is unacceptable, because if that number is not zero then it means that at some point no matter how unlikely you think it is you will lose everything, and adding leverage is one of the fastest ways to raise that risk substantially.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on March 01, 2022, 10:26:48 AM

I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.

But the OP said that swing trading is easy. Are you sure that what your talking about is swing trading? But, if you want to earn more profit you must be willing to dedicate more time, effort and enter much risk. Nothing is easy money here in crypto and most importantly there is no such thing here as guaranteed income because cryptos are unstable.

If you want guaranteed income then you better work on a real job. For me there is no need to choose between swing trading and holding but I can do them both because both risks can be manageable. If I have 1k, I can divide it to the both of them and for the leverage i think I am only good at 1x.

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The difference between swing trading and day trading is usually the length of the position. Swing trading typically involves at least overnight holdings, while day traders close their positions before the market closes.

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I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.

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If you have enough patience then i think holding is the best way to get benefit. I think it's depends on you,if you choose good coin and buy most popular and valuable coin and hold long time i hope You will be get good profit from it.Otherwise, If you have enough knowledge about swing trading then you can trade small money in total.

In holding coins, patience does have an important role to be able to get maximum profit,
before buying coins it would be nice to do some research first,
lots of potential coins and choose the best coin to hold it

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

Well, theres nothing wrong to try both. Since they are both profitable and less risky. You can try swing trading at the same time invest the half amount of your money and hold for long term.As long as you have enough knowledge and patience in swing trading and holding, then why not?

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 01, 2022, 09:29:06 AM

Again, you talked about swing trading being very easy to profit from. That's not true. Wait until you get in the opposite direction of a trend; you will realize that market doesn't always rebound easily.

Normally no easy way of making money, also why trading, it should generally be known that it is risky. Your order can fill and go on the opposite direction, but it also depends on how professional someone is and about the market condition. That is why it is good to just make use of leverage that is not risky like 1x, 2x or 3x leverage for bitcoin because extreme volatile market can lead to liquidation, while the best is just 1x which will not result to panic in most cases.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

There is also a third direction which is the range. Market can range for a long time without showing a clear upward or downward direction for as long as two three months, and even more, until it moves out from a box which is a breakout (BO). We've seen that happen a whole lot of times. When that happens, the market is said to be sleeping or boring. Again, you talked about swing trading being very easy to profit from. That's not true. Wait until you get in the opposite direction of a trend; you will realize that market doesn't always rebound easily.

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If you have enough patience then i think holding is the best way to get benefit. I think it's depends on you,if you choose good coin and buy most popular and valuable coin and hold long time i hope You will be get good profit from it.Otherwise, If you have enough knowledge about swing trading then you can trade small money in total.

You can go with the buy low and sell high but you will need patience. I would suggest dividing the funds into some for long term holding and some for regular trading. It does not mean you have day trade on the latter, use it for buying at low set points and selling at high set points, thus cycling the money and making a profit. Watching the current market movements, I can say that people will sell at 40k and buy at 30k, so you can follow that and place orders accordingly. The more frequently the cycles go, the more multiplications your profit gets.

This added with the long term holding should allow you to make good returns over time. But it takes patience and a cool mind.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

In fact I would choose a spot trade rather than liquidated in leverage. Leverage promises huge profits but also big risks. I once made 100$ with just 20$ in 1 day. But the next day I lost and lost more, even it felt like an addiction. Every time I have money I use to play leverage. Of course leveraged swing trading doesn't seem to suit me then I wouldn't suggest for anyone. Fortunately I can still control myself and no longer want to participate in leverage trading.

I think $1000 is a big capital. It seems like it all depends on those who have, if you are using leverage trading then do it if not then try playing in spot trading. It may have been too much leverage, but that experience has made me realize I'm not an expert there.

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If I have $1,000, I will use only $500 to trade and keep $500 in bitcoin. I will buy low and sell high, and I don't need to do that as fast as other people because I think that will depend on the market situation. If I think the market can move fast, perhaps, buying low and selling high right away will be a good choice so we can make a profit. But if the situation seems too slow to move, I will not force myself to sell and buy back at the lower price because the price will not go down fast.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 01, 2022, 03:39:05 AM

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

These you have mentioned are just the difference between the types of trade. Of course every trading pattern has its good and bad side. You have listed the good part of swinging but for swing to some people is slow and the profit is delayed. When you are losing in swing, it takes time to come back to profit but day trading is faster and scalping for scalper is more fast. Therefore they are all having the good and bad , they are both pattern of trading we need to use reasonable leverage above all risk management is best part of trading.

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I'm better with holding it. I know that there are good traders that can grow that amount but if it's me on that situation, I'll choose to hold that in bitcoin.
Since holding is part of the choice, there can also be options of holding that amount in different altcoins. But to me, the best part of it is to hold it on bitcoin.
Growth might be higher and bigger if it's for the altcoins but I'll choose the slowly but surely method and if I've got another budget to invest, I'll add it on that holding with the same crypto, bitcoin.

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Yes the volatility of the market does give us leverage of trading in swing and day format. There is no other market which can give so much freedom to go up and down. However, this is not good for long term holding. I mean investors usually go crazy if they see market is dropping heavily and are not able to control their emotions then they could loose it up all. However there few ways like selling off at right time and buying at right. However that’s the hardest part all the time. For swing also this step is vital. If you can control the motions then you are good otherwise it’s hell loss.

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If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.

1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

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