Topic: Home win model feel free to join (Read 359 times)

Lol, but yeah, most likely this is his reasons and now according to him he is being restricted by winning too much? And if that is the case then why does the OP just look for another casinos and continue his winning instead of targeting the same casino?

I think for experience gamblers, yeah, it really looks very suspicious and for sure we are not going to fall for this kind of trick. And again, what make it suspicious though is that this is gambling, you might have a winning success, however, probability and statistics are going to caught up with you.

I was in one group who asked some percent from the profit. And the owner always was online, bet with the members, gave advices about bookies and online matches. But it is really rare situation. The same time the odds were more than 2, so even 50% winrate gave us profit.
But anyway it would be better to think twice and DYOR before risk your own money.

Yes, bro, no one can guarantee a win with a prediction because the prediction could be wrong, it could be right but the prediction is not necessarily on target, especially if there are those who ask for weekly and monthly fees, that's a trap in the guise of providing profitable news, but it's a way of They can trick members by guaranteeing profits and asking for contributions in the form of money, it's like an illegal business looking for members by depositing a certain amount of money for initial requirements and being guided to be successful with a particular business, they have to be careful because it will be a fraud for them.

What the OP says can be true. In Spain it usually happens, as you can see in the following article:

"Empecé a ganar dinero en las apuestas 'online' y me bloquearon"

Anyway it doesn't have much of a chance because if even the OP finds someone who wants to bet on him, as soon as the house sees that he is a winner they will ban him too, and it's hard to find people who trust an unknown enough to do that.

I suggest the OP concentrate his efforts on other ways to make money.

How is it that many are not going to endanger their self the more if they join the telegram group you have posted, things aren't done like this, we need to know why everything should go as according to the normal and expected way or format, its nothing bad if you can share with everyone here what you have to say than taking members to another platform from here, that may be more than risk taking.

There is no need to join Op group even though he was winning in bet365. Op is trying not corner some people here to his group and ask them to deposit money either for him to show them how to make money from the gambling but that show be a attempted scam as some other members has said. Everyone should be careful with him.

I can recommend to ask the OP here, before joining. Even if he tell us truth, it would be better to get some information without joining telegram. The same time, here all other members can read the answers.
The most time it is cheating group, where you will pay for predictions every day/week/month but no one will guarantee you any profit. In my experience there were no groups, who asked for money for membership with good predictions.

Because it's a trap, he said "feel free to ask any questions," but what's next?

This kind of post needs to be disregarded, but as a member of this community, we can't allow a newbie to post like this and potentially victimize other newbies in sports betting. By the title itself, he is probably selling a model to win, which I doubt exists because sports betting is not just based on figures. It's based on a lot of factors, and you have to analyze it very well in order to win.

Just like other is curious why you prefer people to join the telegram link provided , my own why don't you state the course of restrictions, because you have been a partakers of the system where you have gain some benefits why sudden restrictions where there any rules you failed to observe that leads to such restrictions , I would have love more details here before joining the telegram.

don't mind the OP. Sometimes people just come up with ideas that's not even well refined and they think that they can easily lure people into believing there statement. What's now special about him that he gets kicked out of betting with the said betting platform while others aren't?

that's most likely the case and it's possible dude is just trying to recruit more of his kind to join him in this plan or maybe extort them in the process.

if what OP was saying was factual and beneficial, it wouldn't really matter that much if he had been on the forum for so long or if he had made a certain number of post on the forum. It's possible you can have a betting strategy that has been working for you in the past even without having any knowledge about the forum in the first place.

Sportsbooks do restrict players due to suspicious activities, but that's not always the case and I am guessing it wasn't what op encountered. They restrict/limit players for winning too much which makes more sense in this context.

Incorrect! They do restrict players if they find something shady related to them sometimes, but this doesn't seem to be the case with op.

That is already his problem but despite of it, he is still here trying his luck. This is not the first service anyway that I see and for sure this isn't going to be the last as well. Maybe they only need a better presentation and they better post a solid proof in their thread, not that they will hide it.

Their shady approach has nothing to do on why a sports betting site ban players but the last thing that you said is the true reason for it. Maybe skilled bettors only came up with a service like this because this has no restrictions and they can earn unlimited amounts in here if they get lucky compared to when they bet. They will only get frustrated there.

They need more members to increase their profit. The same time - they bet on their predictions too. But in group i was in - new members were invited only of they are a friend of the member.
So, if i see such invites on the board - i recommend to ignore it.

Usually restriction is due to suspicious activities. Anything you did? 

Yeah. I wouldn't call him a scammer easily, but the manner in which he is trying to sell his services isn't doing him any favours to be honest. Also, it's totally understandable why sportsbetting sites ban winning players.

They are businesses after all which is why their survival is their first priority. Sucks for the winners though, but it is what it is.

On sports betting sites it is quite common for winning players to be banned simply for that, for being winners. It is something that fortunately does not happen to winning poker players and I have talked about it in another thread but I think it is not enough to refer to this thread without further explanation to say that he is a scammer. In any case for me the scammers are the sports betting houses who I do not know how they are allowed to do this. To me it should be illegal to ban winning players from playing.

@bitbollo is right, why the need to join the Telegram group? Pretty sure that a concise explanation here on this thread would suffice so people would be interested and curious enough to join the Telegram group, you're going to need to do better than that OP.

That's what I'm thinking too, most groups that have this kind of set up don't really advertise what they're doing because they're cautious that they might slip in a rat in the operation which would then lead to them having some kind of issue with the way that they do things, it's probably for the better that not a lot of them are doing this because that means they won't have a hard time dealing with bad elements in their operation.

It is true for the main part of such groups. But there are groups where you pay a part of profit. The owner is interested in your profit and he get some percent for his job, i think it is fair. The problem is that it is really difficult to find such groups.
I can`t say anything about the OP. May be he tell us the truth(but most part it is invite to paid group, you`re right), but i don`t want to test it myself. The only thing i want to match - the kind of prediction groups, where you can get profit without paying every week for nothing.

That which you can do on telegram, you can also and as well do here, any information you can share on your telegram group can as well be shared on this your thread, so, why telegram when you are already here?

And yeah, I do understand the convinience telegram offers, but also understand that not every one of us here are on telegram, for some reason or the other, some of us avoid telegram due to the high level of scam that happens there.

So, personally, I believe that if you have any important information to share, doing so on this thread will be good, and also very beneficial to you since you also get to build your account and as well as your reputation here.

But all the same, the ball is in your court how ever, you play it to whatever direction you like, it's your call.

You join the group. It will propose you join a paid group or use the referral link. That's what you can see the most. There will be calls for different events without any guarantee! I recommend to be maximum vigilant to such messages!

Overall, I am not getting few points from the opening post. But simply what I get is, you are looking for members to your telegram group. Based on this I made few assumptions like below:

1. The second step would be "the fee" for availing your service to make profits in bet365
2. You are banned but you know a working strategy and you want to sell that strategy to needy gamblers.
3. You may ask for a cut from your group members for sharing your strategy.

Just words are not enough. Show any provable proof to cross verify on what you claim. I guess the experienced gamblers from this community will simply ignore such thing as photoshop tricks are too common on internet these days after deepfake techniques.

If I were you, I will help my close friends to copy my strategy and will demand profit cut from them and definitely will not try the same with strangers on this forum.

So, i can say that it is possible. I don`t recommend anybody to try but i think that it is possible that the OP tell us the truth. I`ve got nice profit, betting like the OP and different casinos decreased bet limits. I can`t say nothing about the OP and how honest is he, but i can say that it is possible to get profit in such a way and casinos don`t like it.

Well, yes, there are people who are so inquisitive about making money in an abrupt manner, and some of them feel a bit convinced that gambling can satisfy that desire for them even when it's not possible regularly. Those people can easily fall for this kind of topic, and only when it is off this forum can you catch victims, but here on the forum, you are in the midst of majorly experienced gamblers who can never be deceived by this kind of topic.
Gambling doesn't rely on one Strategy, you must be lucky to win and you can not guarantee how lucky a gambler can be.

Are you indirectly accusing the site in order to drag attention to your personal group or what? You just raised a complaint without a solid and concrete evidence towards the site you made mentioned, okay what happened to other reputable betting site over here,we have sportbet.io, Deulbit, stake.com or even use LiveCasino.io where you could use without any restrictions provided you passed the level of kyc required then you are good to go, before signing up any gambling site you should try as much as possible to always make use of trusted and reliable sites to avoid drama.

Hey mate, posting of pictures in here is not as hard as you think it's just you not knowing how to, but let me give you a hint on how to go about it. You can make use of https://talkimg.com/ for your pictures upload. We are expecting to see those, just maybe it will make a sense that this aren't scam like previous posters before you that have come with similar offers.

Although from you it wouldn't show as a picture but as a link due to your forum rank but am sure a higher rank member will be willing to quote the post to make the pictures you be providing as prove to your claims visible for everyone to view.

Good luck.

Restricted for what reason? Is it because you are winning a lot of money from this sportsbook? I believe bet365 is one of the biggest sportsbooks and they have big limits, so I'm just curious why they restricted you. Maybe you can add some proof about that restriction you're talking about, like a conversation with the support. I'm sure you talked to the support the moment you knew your account was being restricted, unless you know yourself that you have violated their rules. Winning most of the time should not be the reason, right?

This kind of offer looks suspicious if not backed by proof, so just a little proof and let's see from there.

Who knows if it is the same person that is registering different accounts and looking for people to use as victims. It this can be a common scam in the person's community and targeting online forum but they are here to waste their time.

You are among the 99%. Better go to another gambling site to register an account and start gambling again with your own money.

I agree with you, like I said I'm not a guru wouldn't even call myself a tipster there's very little analysis involved, I just follow the model output. 99% it's scams, just have to embrace when the 1% shows up

Man, I don't even know what to say about this kind of threads there in the gambling section anymore. It is always the same, someone claiming to have broken or cheated the system (always temporarily) and then comes here to share a telegram link for them to continue to share or whatever.
Also, one thing is having good luck and Intuition in order to profit off your betting, however it is a completely different thing to have multiple accounts and try to mess with differences in the betting market to make profits. that is certainly will be deserving of a ban by the casino or the sport book, they reserve the right to take thode actions when users do not intent to use their services as they clarified in the Terms of Service.

that being said, I advice anyone (newbie or not) to avoid greed to take over your common sense and not seek the advice of alledged gurus and tipsters. 99% of the time it will be always a scheme to take your money and run away with it.
If something sounds too good to be true, it is.

In my case opening odds and closing do matter. Yes some games won't follow this rule but when comparing both the differences is colossal
The proof is all there no clue how to show images here

This is the best I could do, if image doesn't work it's uploaded on those links

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https://ibb.co/TWWHnpn
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I can share the CSV files with all the games just let me know so I upload it somewhere

You are making a mistake if you think you need to beat the closing lines to make some profits. Because if they use the common fixed-odds betting system, odds offered by those bookmakers are final for you when you place your bet. So if each time you place your bets the actual probability to win is 50% for example and you take (decimal) odds above 2.0, you will make profits in the long run even if actual odds don't stay at 2.0 till the end actually, because sometimes they will certainly go higher but other times they will go lower.

If you care about what you did if the gambling site did not tell you, you can ask their customers care. But most gambling site may not state what you did precisely but they will tell you that you disobey one of their terms and conditions

Show us your past success.

Having said all that about not joining the telegram group but just to view. Most members are skeptical about having new account and my question to you is, what then is your benefit that you want members to view and not join. Why asking people to follow when you can make your winnings alone with your family and friends? If you don't want any profit from people, so why bothering yourself about your telegram link?

Tipsters are always there for the money and whether they give 100% accurate bets is a discussion for another day as we know not all games are accurate.

I understand an alternative account it's against T&C but the restriction wasn't because of it
 No rules were broken, that's the frustrating part.

I'm also not making any promises, just because there was success in the pass it doesn't guarantee success in the future.

I advise 100 unit bankroll and 1 unit per game unless stated otherwise. You don't even need to join, all the rips are on the link I sent above or see the telegram without joining. Just scroll through and see for yourself. It's easier on telegram since you get notifications of new tips, sometimes it can be overwhelming cause you can have 50+ games pending

Hard to prove that until theirs no proof will be shown but I don't think we can see any good nor even beneficial to us since its like promising something unrealistic. So I guess same with other people sayI will not recommend to give a shot and risk something on what OP trying to offer since I feel something bad also not convince on what he trying to point out.

Also Telegram is a reliable platform its just there's a lot of scammer using it in wrong way that's why there's a lot of people avoiding to use this platform since there are lots of frauds posted or there are people will send them a pm and offer those scams to them. So if OP want to explain more then he should post that here and don't try to  redirect people to telegram channel since people don't like to go there.

An alternative account is against the rule of every casino, if you are a long term player you should know that. If you are willing to break their most obvious rules, then you probably did some prohibited practice leading to your ban. This is my best guess from this situation.

I will not trust someone who so casually breaks terms of service they agreed to and invites others to abuse the system and creates alt accounts.

- Jay -

While it may be true that you have encountered success in your model my advice for anyone who is considering following your model in start the need to be fully aware of the risk that is involved in it. Do not just look at the rewards only. In addition I think it is better if the OP creates a thread here and shares whatever offer that he has rather than on telegram because for some users like myself I do not consider telegram a reputable channel for real time tips on anything especially when I do not know the admin personally.

I appreciate the feedback and understanding the skepticism. I had an old account here so long time lurker but couldn't recover that due to old email no longer existing.
I should explain a bit more, bet365 is where my model works the best since is has the most leagues. I tend to go for lower leagues and they have the better coverage with the best odds so relying on other bookmakers the edge is not as good and it's more work since would have to spread around 4 or 5 just to get on the majority of them even then odds might be shorter. Best alternative being 1xbet but not available in the UK.

As in for proof it's all in there but failing that you can check here https://oddalerts.com/bets/bankrolls/24761 just click in fixture tabs and you can see old tips and current ones.

I haven't done anything ilegal, basically beating closing lines and profit of 10k seems to be all you can take them for. So yeah I am frustrated. I'm looking at alternative accounts so while I have the option I'm happy for everyone to rinse them for free.

Now my strategy is not for everyone. My hit rate is one 30% so there can be some nasty loosing streaks. I'm not saying I won't charge in the future and yeah for now I don't untill I run out of accounts building a following would be nice. I'm not the best in the world far from it.

Before the home model I exploited the hell out of the under markets where prices where super inflated and I feel like that forced them to adjust it cause I no longer see the same odds as before so I hope with home wins that doesn't happen. I'm also testing an away model but it's not quite ready to go live yet. It's all about volume and the fair odds.

I hope I addressed the majority of the questions. Its hard to post pictures here, I would like to post more since not all is well arranged like in the link I shared above. And yeah I appreciate the honest comments thinking this is a scam but I hope to prove you wrong, I feel for a few of those myself.

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Hahaha...even if you think we are gullible on this forum, do you think that the ignoble way you posted this will ever make us flood your Telegram channel? That should be in your dreams and I do not think any wise person will give you a try for any reason. You can imagine how you praise yourself so well as though you are the best in the world of sports betting, but without a single proof to at least let us feel the iota of truth in what you say whether or not the proof is real or it was even merely a lucky period to at least show us that you know what you are doing.

Mind you, the popular saying among your kind that a certain renowned casino/sportsbook has banned you due to your huge winnings is no longer selling. Maybe you guys should change tactics as people are getting wiser.

Join at your own risk!

Ive checked the telegram since he got a newbie account and new, probably he cant share such images like the one in his telegram account.

Its either this account is shilling for the telegram page or he is attracting members to increase users or subscriptions. I'll be relax if the owner of that have a good standing and reputation here.

Also youre right having more sportsbook is good than having only one.

If this a legit offer then most probably because it’s easier to convey updates about picks and discussion due to the notification feature on telegram. It’s the most convenient app to use for sports signal like this.

But again, if this really a legit business the OP should at least provide basic information here since he is promoting his service here rather than to communicate on telegram directly. Most of the user that using this scheme usually end up on asking user to pay premium fees on telegram channel.

You have good questions for the OP to answer but I am certain that he will not be able to answer the question because he is only looking for people that can be scammed. This is not new at all as a common trick from scammers. I will leave him a negative trust until he is able to explain himself and also show his excellent gambling performance.

People are commonly restricted on such site because they are violating rhe rules. I do not know what the violation can be but I am sure that if it is true, he violated rules.

I will remove the negative trust if he proves himself and people agree with him for me to remove the negative trust.

Did they just restrict you because you were making profit, how  

Or you were trying to cheat on them or something...

Moreover, provide your winning prove to what you claim.

However, it will be difficult to believe what a newbie says here with how many post?  

Why are you just opening account for the sake of asking members here to join your telegram group? Are you really after people's subscription or you want to try another sportsbook, if you got restricted in one then there are many others to play with. I don't think your excuse for asking members to join your telegram group is tenable.

I'm curious to know, why people need to join your telegram group? You can just explain a bit more / better here...
Can you provide a history of your bets to understand the type of games/leagues in which you were betting?
why only on bet365? can't you use other bookmakers? there are no safe methods in gambling...

I've been making profit months and finally got restricted by bet365 so feel free to join my group and make the suffer. Should be ashamed of this behaviour. Happy to take my business if it was a loosing one.

50 units profit so far this month.
Feel free to ask any questions

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