Topic: Horowitz Report and FBI Abuse - WSJ (Read 191 times)

Back then I was very opposed to Bush policies. The media, as it always does supports the establishment, be it government or corporate, because they know who butters their bread. They both serve shit sandwiches, but one has some red food coloring in it and one has some blue food coloring in it. Back then "liberal" meant leave people who aren't bothering anyone else alone, and being liberal was anti-establishment. Now being "liberal" means not leaving people alone until they comply with the establishment. There is nothing liberal about the modern left just like there wasn't anything conservative about the Bush era right.

This is part of the media's role in electing Trump. Everyone sees the media down on their knees slurping down establishment dick be it red or blue, and they attack no one more than Donald Trump. Their consistent targeting of him essentially is the seal of approval by the people as he is rejected by the establishment. He was elected as a rejection of all things establishment on both sides of the isle, and that is why he is going to win again in 2020.

Well isn't that how this whole thing works. Everyone lies their echo chambers so they go to where they can find the information that they beleive in repeated over and over.

It's why Conservatives like Fox and Liberals like CNN.

I think TecShare is right in the sense that all of these news companies are mainstream news companies though, and all of them are willing to support the other side if it helps them in the longrun. Think about when 9/11 happened and Bush wanted to invade Iraq -- the media were the ones that sold the idea to the American people, and most people had supported the war initially. Both sides did that, not one or the other.

They're still the same.

LOL "shenanigans." You mean like winning the popular and electoral votes?


Well, that's what FOX News is for. FOX News is popular because there indeed exists a bias toward the left in most mainstream news, and there is a consumer demand for counterbalance.

I think the bias in the general media exists because leftist ideology just makes for better news. And by "better news" I mean it attracts more viewers and sells more commercials. It can be more sensational or plain interesting. Whereas "conservative news" tends to be dry and boring.

LOL "shenanigans." You mean like winning the popular and electoral votes?


Well, that's what FOX News is for. FOX News is popular because there indeed exists a bias toward the left in most mainstream news, and there is a consumer demand for counterbalance.

I think the bias in the general media exists because leftist ideology just makes for better news. And by "better news" I mean it attracts more viewers and sells more commercials. It can be more sensational or plain interesting. Whereas "conservative news" tends to be dry and boring.

Aww whats a matter techole, wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? (every morning actually, I don't think your bed has a "right" side).

FOX News gets mentioned by Trump seemingly a hundred times a month, wonder why that is.

I've never said anything about Horowitz, the FBI spying on Trump, or whatever this thread is actually about. I didn't even say it in this thread. Don't let that stop you from making absolutely false statements, though.

Well, that's what FOX News is for. FOX News is popular because there indeed exists a bias toward the left in most mainstream news, and there is a consumer demand for counterbalance.

I think the bias in the general media exists because leftist ideology just makes for better news. And by "better news" I mean it attracts more viewers and sells more commercials. It can be more sensational or plain interesting. Whereas "conservative news" tends to be dry and boring.

This is why his win is virtually assured at this point. For how big of an asshole Trump can be, the democrat party has topped him as being so revolting that even people who don't like Trump will vote for him because they are so absolutely exhausted with the democrat's bullshit. Their inability to recognize this dynamic is the cause of their own self destruction. Most people would vote for a bag of rocks over any of the current democrat candidates.

I haven't followed these investigations closely being non-American but it's just funny that they've trying to get rid of the man even before he stepped into the White House but look now. It's almost 2020, another election cycle and they still haven't succeeded in removing him. If anything, they only made him look sympathetic with how they are treating him.

I love how even when he talks about what Trump got wrong. He practically says that 'we didn't illegally spy/wiretap the trump campaign' Yeah man, it wasn't fucking illegal because you got a secret FISA court to sign off on it while you lied to them about why he needed to be spyed on. So while it's not illegal, there were serious issues with this guy even getting the warrant in the first place.

Puts into perspective how horrible they treat private American citizens rights.

https://twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1206317239726559232


James Comey was the director of the FBI but claims he did not know about the FISA abuse and then claimed during an interview in 2018 that the FISA application process in which Carter Paige, former campaign associate of the Trump campaign, did not contain any errors of signs of abuse. According to the inspector General report, there was a total of 17 significant errors in the FISA application process which points towards rampant FISA application abuse in the wire tapping of Carter Paige.

To add, Comey claimed that the debunked Steele Dossier was apart of a broad "mosaic" in regards to granting the FISA warrant when the Inspector General claimed in an open hearing that the Steel Dossier was a "central" piece in granting the application. And James Comey still claims the integrity of the FBI was upheld? Unbelievable.

Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham
“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

Breaking: Dossier author Chris Steele had a meeting at Trump Tower, and maintains he was not biased against President Trump and in fact maintained a close friendship with a family member and was, if anything, “favourably disposed” to the Trumps. Extract from the OIG report here:

The full report. Here are excerpts of every single finding on political bias in the Executive Summary:

Page III. On Opening the Main Investigation.
We concluded that Priestap's exercise of discretion in opening the investigation was in compliance with Department and FBI policies, and we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced his decision.

Page IV. On Opening Four Individual Investigations of Page, Manafort, Papadapoulous and Flynn.
We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations.

Page VI. On FISA of Carter Page
We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI's decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page.

Page XVII. On Usage of Confidential Human Sources and Undercover Employees.
Finally, we also found no documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivations influenced the FBI's decision to use CHSs or UCEs to interact with Trump campaign officials in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

And a Bonus on Page II. On Steele Dossier playing no role whatever in the Predication of the Investigation

These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele's election reporting until weeks laterand we therefore determined that Steele's reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.

Emphatic rejection, on every single point, of the Barr/Trump conspiracy that the Russia investigation - or any aspect thereof - was politically biased or motivated.