How can "black markets" be considered safe?

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I grew up in a large city in an area where Italians and the Mafia were present. When you talk about black markets Exactly what do you mean Because i have bought from stores where i'm sure it was black market due to the nature of the owners and never once felt unsafe.

We were in a poor area of this italian area and we as kids always were treated as Royalty when it came to the "Regulars" in the area...We were always given money and toys at christmas and always a thanksgiving turkey.

I think by "Black market" being dangerous you must be referring to some serious shit.

What you are describing is a real life black market. I actually think that is safer both for the vendor and the buyer. What I mean with "black markets" are websites where you can trade illicit goods.
Sites like Silk Road etc...

I don't think you will go to prison for ordering weed online but if you are a drug dealer looking to setup shop you won't be home free selling on these black markets on the internet.
Then it's "serious shit" since you are sending out illegal drugs in packages all over the world.

Quote from: kuroman on April 23, 2014, 08:45:20 PM

If it is a real black market, than it can't be considered safe as things that are presented are either illegal or don't have safety control (but sometimes it's just about avoiding paying taxs so in that regard they can be relatively safe) but overall, just know the risks and what you are doing

Of course a black market can never be safe since you are participating in illegal activity. But as I mentioned sites like Silk Road have been described by the media as McDonald's for illegal drugs etc.

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If it is a real black market, than it can't be considered safe as things that are presented are either illegal or don't have safety control (but sometimes it's just about avoiding paying taxs so in that regard they can be relatively safe) but overall, just know the risks and what you are doing

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Quote from: hilariousandco on April 22, 2014, 08:47:26 PM

That's what usually happens in a sting. And are you thinking about purchasing a green card but worried you'll get caught? Haha

Haha, I'm not an illegal alien if that's what you think. I just merely want to know why the media describes these sites as a "safe haven" for criminals and drug dealers.
It's the same with some libertarians they describe it like a free society where you can do what you want without the government stopping you.

Another thing I forgot to mention was the "counterfeit" bills that you supposedly can buy. How stupid is that? That is basically pointing out the flaws of the banknotes.
The government orders a few bills and immediately starts working on a way to make the bills harder to counterfeit.

I think these type of businesses are better off hiding then publicly post this on the internet for everyone to see.

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doesn't sound legit at all, also I thought Greencard, was either given by either a raffle or if you have a working contract and other justification to pretend for one

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Quote from: Dogtanian on April 22, 2014, 02:16:37 PM

The guy probably wasnt legit. Saying yoiu have a contact in the Usgov sounds a bit simple,

And they can only track certain mail. They wont be able to track a random letter or package without knowing about it and intercepting it first.

What if the Feds buys from the same guy a couple of times? Then they can just tell the postal service to call them when they see a package with their adress on.
Of course they cannot track the guy immediately, but it's a lead.

That's what usually happens in a sting. And are you thinking about purchasing a green card but worried you'll get caught? Haha

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Quote from: Dogtanian on April 22, 2014, 02:16:37 PM

The guy probably wasnt legit. Saying yoiu have a contact in the Usgov sounds a bit simple,

And they can only track certain mail. They wont be able to track a random letter or package without knowing about it and intercepting it first.

What if the Feds buys from the same guy a couple of times? Then they can just tell the postal service to call them when they see a package with their adress on.
Of course they cannot track the guy immediately, but it's a lead.

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Quote from: forevernoob on April 22, 2014, 01:48:04 PM

So a while a go I was looking through the Tor hidden wiki. Some things like stolen CC's I think is very hard for law enforcement to stop.
But I remember reading about a guy selling citizenship to the US. Apparently this guy had a contact in the US government that allowed him a limited amount of green cards per year.

If this guy is legit wouldn't this be very easy for law enforcement to stop? Since FBI, CIA etc are part of the government all they have to do is order a green card from this guy.
When they receive it they check with their pals in Washington exactly how it was possible for them get citizenship. Then they will find out who the "government contact" is.

It's basically the same with stuff sent by mail. All they have to do is order some illegal stuff and then trace where the package was sent from.
That's possible right? The postal service have the ability to track mail right?

The guy probably wasnt legit. Saying yoiu have a contact in the Usgov sounds a bit simple,

And they can only track certain mail. They wont be able to track a random letter or package without knowing about it and intercepting it first.

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I wouldn't say that black markets are safe in anyway. You must be really careful when dealing with them. I suggest buying safely from normal market because you have a high chance to get tricked in blackmarkets and that you'll be left without anything , just a money loss.

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Quote from: GreekBitcoin on April 22, 2014, 02:00:59 PM

Quote from: cosmofly on April 22, 2014, 01:56:08 PM

Scams and many of them are actually feds waiting to trap u. You pay for green card BOOM ur in jail for visa fraud

What you are saying is stupid cause it is illegal for goverment to do so. Goverment cant trap you. This is illegal. Feds want to trap those that actually sell those cards if they do.

As for the markets generally most are scams. Some are not. You may find by trial and error and obvious by asking a lot and by reading/searching a lot...

Not true you have no idea, Feds create traps all the time to catch illegal activity. Just look it up instead of being an idiot.

Your a dumb government whore, bend over for the big federal cock Cheesy

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Quote from: cosmofly on April 22, 2014, 01:56:08 PM

Scams and many of them are actually feds waiting to trap u. You pay for green card BOOM ur in jail for visa fraud

What you are saying is stupid cause it is illegal for goverment to do so. Goverment cant trap you. This is illegal. Feds want to trap those that actually sell those cards if they do.

As for the markets generally most are scams. Some are not. You may find by trial and error and obvious by asking a lot and by reading/searching a lot...

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Scams and many of them are actually feds waiting to trap u. You pay for green card BOOM ur in jail for visa fraud

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Quote from: forevernoob on April 22, 2014, 01:48:04 PM

So a while a go I was looking through the Tor hidden wiki. Some things like stolen CC's I think is very hard for law enforcement to stop.
But I remember reading about a guy selling citizenship to the US. Apparently this guy had a contact in the US government that allowed him a limited amount of green cards per year.

If this guy is legit wouldn't this be very easy for law enforcement to stop? Since FBI, CIA etc are part of the government all they have to do is order a green card from this guy.
When they receive it they check with their pals in Washington exactly how it was possible for them get citizenship. Then they will find out who the "government contact" is.

It's basically the same with stuff sent by mail. All they have to do is order some illegal stuff and then trace where the package was sent from.
That's possible right? The postal service have the ability to track mail right?

That is correct. That's why criminals get caught... lol.
Stuff like Silk Road is harder, since they're made up of multiple people. By mail, they can check around which post office it was sent, but they can't trace the exact location.

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Beware of black markets most of it is scam. They won't deliver anything.

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So a while a go I was looking through the Tor hidden wiki. Some things like stolen CC's I think is very hard for law enforcement to stop.
But I remember reading about a guy selling citizenship to the US. Apparently this guy had a contact in the US government that allowed him a limited amount of green cards per year.

If this guy is legit wouldn't this be very easy for law enforcement to stop? Since FBI, CIA etc are part of the government all they have to do is order a green card from this guy.
When they receive it they check with their pals in Washington exactly how it was possible for them get citizenship. Then they will find out who the "government contact" is.

It's basically the same with stuff sent by mail. All they have to do is order some illegal stuff and then trace where the package was sent from.
That's possible right? The postal service have the ability to track mail right?

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