Topic: How difficult can security actually be? (Read 106 times)

Security is like a great wall that is long and only a minor hole can be exploited by hackers. It's very hard to protect careless people with bad internet surfing habit and computer using habit to be safe from many threats.

Fortunately, for careful people, it's easier to protect them. If they don't have bad habits, their devices will not be affected.

Of course, for everyone, having AntiVirus software or Internet Security software is another layer of security protection. Remember, it's only another layer but if you believe it completely protects your device, it's wrong thinking. These softwares have false negative and your devices can be infected by newest viruses, malwares, etc.

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Exactly my point. these are exactly what I'm trying to express via this post. Keylogger files and batch data can be very crafty and the fact is most malwares checkers and antivirus can't check or detect them effectively. I've come to notice that people these days place too much hope and expectations on antivirus softwares and malware detectors and it isn't helping matters.

Most malwares checkers and antivirus softwares target odd files on you device and things like softwares that carry unimportant administrator permissions and come from unknown and unauthorized sources. Keyloggers hardly bulk up such kind of files so 90% of the Time you need to detect it yourself. One major conclusion is your Hodlings should never be on your daily driver device because sometimes you may skip little sign and end up a victim right under your nose.

How could your device become infected by a keylogger or some other malware? In many cases the user downloads executable files from shady or less trustworthy sources and runs the file without thorough checking (own antivirus may not help if the malware is very new and sophisticatedly crafted to avoid detection, although this might be an unlikely scenario as it seems very specifically targeted; upload to virustotal.com to interpret results from many antivirus engines).

Why do you need questionable software anyway? On your device where you do crypto stuff, seriously??

Some reasonable steps for better security are rather simple:

• Do not use your daily computer with which you do all your internet shit for crypto wallets. Same applies for your mobile, see below.
• Do not download and execute every piece of software shit that comes under your mouse pointer.
• Use trustworthy software and verify that it's genuine.
• Avoid warez, keygens, cracking software, cracked software and whatnot. You have no idea, what "funny shit" you execute. If you do, don't cry later, you got infected.
• Use a hardware wallet properly (avoid the Ledger crap).
• Avoid using and re-using weak and/or bad passwords. Use a good password manager and unique and different passwords at avery place. Use 2FA properly where possible or where it's worth the hassle with a separate device (your old mobile phone is just fine for that and only that! Single purpose use, get it!).
• Get a cheap refurbished computer or laptop, install a minimal Linux on it, no fancy extra software and use it to handle your crypto wallets. Do nothing more with this device, devote it solely to use your wallet software, avoid browsing the internet and using it for emails. Linux is less common than Windows and maybe MacOS, so it's not the primary target for malware.
• Educate yourself about computer security, it's no rocket science.
• Keep your system updated. I know it's sometimes shitty, but you don't gain an edge, if your software remains old and unpatched with tons of bugs and vulnerabilites. You only make it easier that some old bugs get exploited and your system compromised.

This list is not exhaustive, I surely missed something. I hope you get the gist. Avoid using your mobile for crypto when you do all your daily internet and social media shit with it, when you install all sorts of games and apps without sanity, when ...

A keylogger or root kit usually doesn't come on its own to your device! Usually you install it as payload to something else you downloaded and executed on your device. You neglected basic security principles before. Educate yourself what to avoid to stay safe. It pays off for all the future where you use computers.

Don't stop, it's life-long learning, as malware and cyber criminals also evolve and become more sophisticated.

Yes that is my findings, the security board is not that kind of security that I thought and in the context of the ops, and quite right to say the thread should be left here since it borders about security and how our computer could be hacked and possibly lead to losing our bitcoin holdings being stored on such a computer.


The most technical protection against such attacks is to have a strong antivirus running on your system, that way it becomes hard for such malware attacks to be carried out on the system.

I have experieced such before but I was able to detect it thanks to my antivirus then.
Well prior to detecting it, my PC lagged alot and I thought it was just the ram getting Bad but after fixing the bug
Processing power was faster and using my mouse wasn't as strenuous.
I guess lagging keyboard or PC could help in knowing not excluding updated Anti viruses.
Never knew flickering of back lights could be used.

The Board is recommended are for securities like shares
Not security as in securing.

Well it can be left here since it involves the security of our Coins
As well as the beginners board (more fitting).

It has become really difficult to secure your activities online this with because the higher the security measures are taken in other to stay ahead of hackers/scammers they still find their ways into monitoring us from different devices.

Perhaps if it has to do with securing of our wallets I believe the best option is to have an airgapped device that isn't compatible of online activities just for your wallet only.

and when it has to do with security of our data's online then browsing several sites should be best done with Tor browser it helps alot but everyone is responsible for their security so we should be security conscious while entering our datas anywhere online and then we can begin to be suspicious of everything else in other to dictate those keyloggers.

This doesn't come close to bitcoin discussion topic!
Since we are not sure where this really fit in as a topic

Here seems most appropriate to me iay be wrong any ways.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0

Well today i came across a tech video explaining a couple of security bugs on a computer and some tactics that certain hackers use that may seem normal to the regular pc user however someone really observant should be able to notice them. Well firstly I was slightly in contemplation where to place this post since we don't have something like a cyber security board here so I thought here should be a good fit since it's related to securing your coins.

Now probably some people here have seen or read some articles about keyloggers. Well when I first discovered them it was from a friend who was into cyber security he gave me a couple examples on how they are set and how they work anyways today I came across something very similar to how keyloggers work.

According to the narrator he made mention that hackers can make you install a file that seems harmless but is actually something similar to an activator to a keylogger setup. So what basically happens is the hacker gets a precise feed back of everything done via the keyboard including time stamps. He made mention of how PCs with backlight may beep irregularly  like some normal malfunction but is actually a sign you may have a keylogger monitoring you keyboard data.

The thing is not all PCs have back lights so for someone not too inclined in technicalities, what other ways can you spot a possible key logger attempt? I've seen multiple blogs how funds have been stolen on especially hot wallets.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe