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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

Obviously, the forum uses DDoS protection developed by the company Cloudflare. The most common reason when a user is asked to fill out a CAPTCHA is that you are using an IP that previously had suspicious activity on the network. The simplest solution is to use another VPN connection.

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Internet, check your internet provider, although bitcointalk's not banned in ISPs anyway, but I'm guessing you can look into that as well. Also as some people in here have already pointed out, longer wait times happen because of the topic size (how many people interacted with it). I often experience this myself when I'm visiting topics with more than 20+ pages of replies. So I guess you should look into topics that aren't so much congested if you want to immediately get into posting/replying.

Oh, sometimes the site's wonky too, I believe we already had a couple site-wide outages in this year alone, and we might experience a couple more since the site's pretty much the same as it was from 10 years ago with minimal changes.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

Your concerns, I will split in two ways.

1. I do not know what exactly triggers this population or even why it sometimes take you to another tab on your browser when clicked either intentionally or mistakenly but I've noticed the same.

2. The idea of delay in loading is not unconnected to your network efficiency. A lagging network speed can cause the delays and keep it loading for longer than supposed to.

Get a better network so it doesn't delay next time

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;
Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

Maybe it's not a problem when vpn is used maybe page load looks like this.I also faced the same problem today but I clicked the verify button first and then it was fine.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

When there is a load on different servers of BitcoinTalk, it often comes with me, not only through this website but also through some other websites through which I get these hustles when I open the websites. Also, when I tried to open BitcoinTalk on my Google browser, it did the same. But there is another problem regarding the matter of BitcoinTalk websites.

When I open through my PC, it opens very fast, and when I try through my mobile phone, it does mostly the same. Also, I cleared the catch on Google, but it is doing the same. I hope some users will find a solution to that.

I have tried sometimes through the VPN on my PC, but it is doing the same. I hope this will not be an issue due to my PC. I think that will be a server issue sometimes.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 15, 2023, 02:51:21 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on December 15, 2023, 12:54:45 AM

Well, I responded based on my user experience.

You see, it's possible you are using a VPN-like browser or even a VPN, with these, you will never know the truth. BTCt is a very user-friendly forum, and in my experience so far, it has nothing to do with slowness but security check (verification), and this year as a whole, I have never experienced what the OP narrated with my PC that I use all the time to browse the forum.

I often experience such on some websites, but not this. However, when I opened the forum through the Tor browser to be specific, or at times with VPN, I experienced such once in a while, especially if I wanted to load more pages as you said. The obvious difference here is the privacy of the browser.

Why didn't it ever happen when I use a normal browser with my normal IP and it happens often when I use a Tor Browser or VPN?

I think maybe you didn't understand what the OP said was happening. He was not referring to normal use of the forum.
He reported a situation that happens when you enter a topic and choose the "All" option - see all pages in a topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477491.0;all

Click on the link, and you will see how the message mentioned in the OP will also appear. It appears to all users, regardless of the browser they are using, or any other characteristic of their connection.

What the OP mentions is that sometimes this process takes longer than other times. And this happens, because of the size of the topic (the bigger the topic, the longer) and based on the user's type of internet connection.

The forum is really fast and everyone usually enjoys a good browsing experience. Only, when you choose the option to see all posts in a topic, the OP's message appears and can cause a greater slowdown in the response.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this and know that I fully understand what you are saying and I also understand what the OP is saying, and regardless, my responses are valid with the situation as well.

Because of this, I've tried many "All" options on the forum, including the link you posted and none of the options clicked directly on the forum behaves the way the OP explained, but only the one you posted above (which also loaded within 3-4 seconds, not for the slowness of the network but for an automatic verification). By the way, that is on my normal browser with the real IP. Again, I tried the "All" option on the Tor browser just now, and it referred again to what the OP is saying.

Is it not clear already? And the reason for my advice is for the OP to probably know the cause or part of the cause. I am sure he will not experience that if he perhaps stops using VPN or those private browsers. But if he can't, he would know that it is partly responsible for it.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on December 15, 2023, 12:54:45 AM

Well, I responded based on my user experience.

You see, it's possible you are using a VPN-like browser or even a VPN, with these, you will never know the truth. BTCt is a very user-friendly forum, and in my experience so far, it has nothing to do with slowness but security check (verification), and this year as a whole, I have never experienced what the OP narrated with my PC that I use all the time to browse the forum.

I often experience such on some websites, but not this. However, when I opened the forum through the Tor browser to be specific, or at times with VPN, I experienced such once in a while, especially if I wanted to load more pages as you said. The obvious difference here is the privacy of the browser.

Why didn't it ever happen when I use a normal browser with my normal IP and it happens often when I use a Tor Browser or VPN?

I think maybe you didn't understand what the OP said was happening. He was not referring to normal use of the forum.
He reported a situation that happens when you enter a topic and choose the "All" option - see all pages in a topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477491.0;all

Click on the link, and you will see how the message mentioned in the OP will also appear. It appears to all users, regardless of the browser they are using, or any other characteristic of their connection.

What the OP mentions is that sometimes this process takes longer than other times. And this happens, because of the size of the topic (the bigger the topic, the longer) and based on the user's type of internet connection.

The forum is really fast and everyone usually enjoys a good browsing experience. Only, when you choose the option to see all posts in a topic, the OP's message appears and can cause a greater slowdown in the response.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 14, 2023, 08:52:01 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on December 14, 2023, 05:39:15 AM

I have read the initial replies but I am not satisfied with the responses so far, maybe you are but let me still ship in my own little advice.

This has nothing to do with a slow internet connection or the number of pages you are loading as many had said but the extent of the privacy of the browser you are using. If you are using browsers like Tor and others that act like a VPN, there will be a problem. And this can also happen when you are actually using a VPN to browse, especially when the VPN is not a strong one, mostly the free version.

What do you mean "privacy extension"?

You should know this already, the extent of the security and privacy of your browser. You don't expect a normal Chrome to behave like Brave or Tor, even Incognito mode. I use Chrome for my Bitcointalk, and no VPN.

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This happens to all users, with or without a VPN, on Tor or any other browser.

The difference is then in the speed at which information is processed. It varies whether you use a VPN or not, whether your internet connection is good or not, and it even varies based on the workload the server is running. And logically it will also depend on how much information will open, it is one thing to show all the posts of a topic with 5 pages, another to show one with 15 pages. All these factors count towards the page opening being more or less quick.

Well, I responded based on my user experience.

You see, it's possible you are using a VPN-like browser or even a VPN, with these, you will never know the truth. BTCt is a very user-friendly forum, and in my experience so far, it has nothing to do with slowness but security check (verification), and this year as a whole, I have never experienced what the OP narrated with my PC that I use all the time to browse the forum.

I often experience such on some websites, but not this. However, when I opened the forum through the Tor browser to be specific, or at times with VPN, I experienced such once in a while, especially if I wanted to load more pages as you said. The obvious difference here is the privacy of the browser.

Why didn't it ever happen when I use a normal browser with my normal IP and it happens often when I use a Tor Browser or VPN?

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on December 14, 2023, 05:39:15 AM

I have read the initial replies but I am not satisfied with the responses so far, maybe you are but let me still ship in my own little advice.

This has nothing to do with a slow internet connection or the number of pages you are loading as many had said but the extent of the privacy of the browser you are using. If you are using browsers like Tor and others that act like a VPN, there will be a problem. And this can also happen when you are actually using a VPN to browse, especially when the VPN is not a strong one, mostly the free version.

What do you mean "privacy extension"?
This happens to all users, with or without a VPN, on Tor or any other browser.

The difference is then in the speed at which information is processed. It varies whether you use a VPN or not, whether your internet connection is good or not, and it even varies based on the workload the server is running. And logically it will also depend on how much information will open, it is one thing to show all the posts of a topic with 5 pages, another to show one with 15 pages. All these factors count towards the page opening being more or less quick.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

I have read the initial replies but I am not satisfied with the responses so far, maybe you are but let me still ship in my own little advice.

This has nothing to do with a slow internet connection or the number of pages you are loading as many had said but the extent of the privacy of the browser you are using. If you are using browsers like Tor and others that act like a VPN, there will be a problem. And this can also happen when you are actually using a VPN to browse, especially when the VPN is not a strong one, mostly the free version.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on December 12, 2023, 01:14:25 PM

Forgot to add one thing, "View all" causes it every time, who knows why!

I have this behavior not always, but most of the time. I don't know why it happens, so I can't tell you anything about it. I think only theymos can clarify this situation with this behavior and who is "at fault", the forum or CloudFlare.

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Quote from: Xal0lex on December 11, 2023, 04:41:53 PM

I too encounter this phenomenon periodically. I have noticed that it happens when using certain servers on my VPN. I can't explain the reason for this behavior of these servers, maybe CloudFlare considers them suspicious or something else, but when I switch to another server this problem disappears.

I face this whenever I am trying to access the forum using TOR. So I also think it's a cloudflare related thing. More like a security checkup. In normal cases without using any third party VPN or TOR like things it never shows up. Sometimes it would show up when the Internet connection is so slow. Apart from these cases, never encountered this.

Forgot to add one thing, "View all" causes it every time, who knows why!

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I also face this issue and it is not some error on my or only your side, we all have to wait a little bit for it to load, the first time when I faced this issue I even had to click on the button to prove that I am not a bot but after 4 to 5 times, it does not ask me to click, instead just load there for a bit and even sometimes it don't even load and directly open all page, it happens 2 to 3 times with me.

I did read almost every reply and some less people have used the all button and I am not one of them, I have used the all page feature many times therefore I am telling you from my experience that, if your internet is good then you have to wait for normal time, which for me is around 3 seconds or maximum 5 seconds, but if your internet is not stable then it might take longer than this timeframe.

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Use third-party services such as ----> https://ninjastic.space/, which instead of clicking on All^[1] and waiting for several seconds, go to ---> https://ninjastic.space/topic/5477154.0 and now you can view all posts and use the search option in the browser to find what you are looking for. .
I think UI will be better for phone users.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477154.0;all

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 11, 2023, 07:22:45 PM

Having a lot of ram on a pc helps a bit .

But I have a threadripper cpu with 128gb ram and a 2 tb pcie ssd. eth connection to a 1 g verizon line .

And it still happens to me.

I don't think that having a lot of ram or a blazing fast system or even an extremely fast internet connection would help because that happens because of the cloudflare issue and it's from their side if I'm not wrong. I have tested that on many setups and internet connections but that happened to me as well. That's the only reason I never load all the posts in a thread but read them page by page as that's more convenient for me.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 11, 2023, 08:08:20 PM

Did you use Tor?

If you use Tor, it is a known issue.
Cloudflare - Not a robot (maybe...) on Show All

It doesn't just occur in TOR browser alone. I also experience it while using chrome browser and even in Opera.

Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

This happens when cloudflare put security measures in place to protect the website from malicious bots and automated attacks

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Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

Why it loads up after clicking on the verify button is to ensure the security of the site and it's visitors. The admin of BTT has designated cloudflare as authoritative name server for the sites domain. But to put it off completely you should follow this steps:

Log into cloudflare dashboard
Select your account and zone.
Go to Security > Settings.
For Browser Integrity Check, switch the toggle to Off.

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/cloudflare-browser-verification-stuck/279473/4

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Looking at discussion on https://community.cloudflare.com/t/cloudflare-browser-verification-stuck/279473/4, it seems IP address has big factor on how long "Verifying..." could take. If you use VPN, proxy or public WiFi, that might be the reason since someone else who used that IP address use to perform shady behavior (e.g. DDoS or many automated request).

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This problem usually occurs when your device is connected to a weak internet so if you are using a high speed internet then hopefully you won't have this problem.

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I'm using chrome browser also sometimes do this on the initial display of the web page I visit, this credential is usually requested when I install cl0udflare 1.1.1.1 on android when it is not activated, or haven't installed it at all, but that's not always the case.

Currently I have activated it in the browser click 3 dots top right=>privacy and security=> advance => dns of your choice. it's your option or can be with a browser of your taste including tor and the like etc.

I can't screenshoot inside the arrow, because there is a little damage to my device,

New web sometimes, so for bitcointalk forum rarely happens because I use kiwi browser on my android, and when requesting a full page of threads in the forum also experienced the same, it does make it easier to search in one thread, but it takes a long time and cannot be accessed, so I enjoy opening the thread of each page and it's faster than the whole sheet and taking a long time. and dns browser active until now.

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Did you use Tor?

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Cloudflare - Not a robot (maybe...) on Show All

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Having a lot of ram on a pc helps a bit .

But I have a threadripper cpu with 128gb ram and a 2 tb pcie ssd. eth connection to a 1 g verizon line .

And it still happens to me.

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You don't have to panic over this and not a serious issues per say..
Most times I do experience it but it doesn't take time to load up this happen whenever there's a network issues within my ends so what I will do is to swapped between my network to other network to enable me have smooth access to the forum. Most times it occurs when I want to use my smart phone to access the forum it will trying to synchronized the network something so but isn't a thing you should panicked over.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 11, 2023, 03:49:38 PM

I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

this can sometimes happen because the bitcointalk server is heavy. stay patient until everything is loaded correctly by the server. but if it keeps happening, do this
1. use a stable and fast internet connection.
2. also make sure your smartphone gets the best signal
3. what I often do is sometimes, press the airplane mode button and leave it for 20 seconds or so. it aims to update the IP from the provider.

hopefully your problem will be resolved soon.

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I do not actually know why I would want to read all the posts in one page? I prefer it in pages, and if I mistakenly click view all, I will reload immediately and not allow it happen. Although, everyone has their preference, but then if you want to view all pages conveniently, you may try using the forum in a desktop with good network and not a mobile phone without strong connections.

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I too encounter this phenomenon periodically. I have noticed that it happens when using certain servers on my VPN. I can't explain the reason for this behavior of these servers, maybe CloudFlare considers them suspicious or something else, but when I switch to another server this problem disappears.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 11, 2023, 03:53:31 PM

This happens because of topic sizes.

The more posts a topic has, the more complicated it will be to view all the posts, as it is a very heavy load on the server and takes a long time. And normally, for security reasons, servers disconnect the connection when the response time is too high, to avoid the emergence of vulnerabilities.

Now I see I was thinking it was an error from my end Because I tried changing network providers to faster one but same problem still came up .
I guess I would just have to read posts page by page anytime this happens again.

Quote from: Nwada001 on December 11, 2023, 03:54:36 PM

Have you tried using a network provider with a stronger signal? Maybe it could speed up how the page loads. This is just a security page that could load with a better network connection, unless the case varies based on the number of pages the thread you want to load carries, but I doubt it.

I did but had same issues.

Quote from: _act_ on December 11, 2023, 03:58:10 PM

If you click on view all, it is normal for you to see that. It happens to everybody.

Quote from: Nwada001 on December 11, 2023, 03:54:36 PM

Have you tried using a network provider with a stronger signal?

I am using 5G with good connection and high internet speed, but it is still like that.

Exactly I thought so. though I still use 4G my provider is quite fast enough to load up webages of over 6mb of data

Quote from: _act_ on December 11, 2023, 04:07:02 PM

But from my end, I noticed something with my 4G router and 5G phone. Once you have clicked on view all on a thread, it will show what is seen in the OP, but if you go back and click on view all again, it will not show it again but load the page immediately. Also if you go to other different threads, it will not also show it again if you click on view all, even on different boards.

_act_ this is normal because of the cache your browser saves when you load a page to make surfing easier and faster to load on your device.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 11, 2023, 04:01:45 PM

Having a good internet connection helps, but it doesn't prevent things from taking a long time.
The server response time must be taken into account. In addition to processing this request, it is processing thousands of other requests made per second from other visitors.

But from my end, I noticed something with my 4G router and 5G phone. Once you have clicked on view all on a thread, it will show what is seen in the OP, but if you go back and click on view all again, it will not show it again but load the page immediately. Also if you go to other different threads, it will not also show it again if you click on view all, even on different boards.

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Quote from: _act_ on December 11, 2023, 03:58:10 PM

Quote from: Nwada001 on December 11, 2023, 03:54:36 PM

Have you tried using a network provider with a stronger signal?

I am using 5G with good connection and high internet speed, but it is still like that.

Having a good internet connection helps, but it doesn't prevent things from taking a long time.
The server response time must be taken into account. In addition to processing this request, it is processing thousands of other requests made per second from other visitors.

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If you click on view all, it is normal for you to see that. It happens to everybody.

Quote from: Nwada001 on December 11, 2023, 03:54:36 PM

Have you tried using a network provider with a stronger signal?

I am using 5G with good connection and high internet speed, but it is still like that.

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Since you want to read everything all at once, I will suggest you also exercise a little patience and wait for it to load. I have only tried to load this all at once; it was in a case of a 6-page thread, if I could remember correctly.

Have you tried using a network provider with a stronger signal? Maybe it could speed up how the page loads. This is just a security page that could load with a better network connection, unless the case varies based on the number of pages the thread you want to load carries, but I doubt it.

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This happens because of topic sizes.

The more posts a topic has, the more complicated it will be to view all the posts, as it is a very heavy load on the server and takes a long time. And normally, for security reasons, servers disconnect the connection when the response time is too high, to avoid the emergence of vulnerabilities.

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I don't know if this a problem or if I am the only one experiencing difficulties when I try viewing every post in a thread on one page.like any time I click to view all this displays;

Sometimes it loads up a while after I click on the verify button other times I will wait endlessly for it to load because it keeps loading and asking to click verify over and over again.

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