All encrypted and hidden behind several layers of passwords of course.
How do you keep the passwords safe and secure?
Topic: How do you protect your personal wallet? (Read 1620 times)
How do you keep the passwords safe and secure?
All encrypted and hidden behind several layers of passwords of course.
How do you keep the passwords safe and secure?
Distributed backups. Several copies spread amongst the family so there is no single point of failure, one I keep on my person at all times, online backup. All encrypted and hidden behind several layers of passwords of course. No paper wallet.
For me to lose my bitcoins several buildings would have to burn down at the same time AND I would have to lose my usb drive AND the online storage I use would have to go down. All at once. Not bloody likely.
For me to lose my bitcoins several buildings would have to burn down at the same time AND I would have to lose my usb drive AND the online storage I use would have to go down. All at once. Not bloody likely.
What's your plan if there's a fire, and it turns out the fireproof safe is less fireproof than expected?
No plan is foolproof. Total loss through a major fire is a very small possibility. I'll have to check my property insurance for fire coverage.
Big cold-storage wallet: printed, laminated, in a ziplock baggie, in a Pelican waterproof case, inside my fireproof safe.
What I want to do is 3d print my private key qr-code and store that in a safe.
What's your plan if there's a fire, and it turns out the fireproof safe is less fireproof than expected?What I want to do is 3d print my private key qr-code and store that in a safe.
grnbrg.
Small daily-spending wallet: on my Android phone.
Big cold-storage wallet: printed, laminated, in a ziplock baggie, in a Pelican waterproof case, inside my fireproof safe.
What I want to do is 3d print my private key qr-code and store that in a safe.
Big cold-storage wallet: printed, laminated, in a ziplock baggie, in a Pelican waterproof case, inside my fireproof safe.
What I want to do is 3d print my private key qr-code and store that in a safe.
Idea to encrypt wallet with gpg and spread it over world is awesome. But in short term it seems overcomplicated to work with it at daily basis(is it not?) and in long term you are still depending on private key (another storing or loosing problem...)
It's an encrypted backup, not an active wallet. Day-to-day use is with your secure client, and you update your wallet backup occasionally, although probably less often than you think.
Paper wallets tend to be unencrypted. If someone breaks into the bank, and steals the QR code with your cold wallet private key, you're screwed. If you've got a backup of an old cold wallet that's encrypted, but you don't remember the password(s), you're screwed. If you have a single backup of your cold wallet as a paper wallet, and both the backup and the offline computer is destroyed in a house fire, you're screwed.
GPG encryption is going to be more reliable than virtually any physical security you can name, assuming you select a secure enough passphrase. And a digital file who's security you trust more than any bank vault can be copied anywhere, making it virtually impossible to lose all copies.
grnbrg.
when you store them on a USB drive, dont store them just on one.
Thanks for your posts!
For storing in long term seems paper wallet(s!) as best option.
Idea to encrypt wallet with gpg and spread it over world is awesome. But in short term it seems overcomplicated to work with it at daily basis(is it not?) and in long term you are still depending on private key (another storing or loosing problem...)
For storing in long term seems paper wallet(s!) as best option.
Idea to encrypt wallet with gpg and spread it over world is awesome. But in short term it seems overcomplicated to work with it at daily basis(is it not?) and in long term you are still depending on private key (another storing or loosing problem...)
No, that´s easy. Every used Privatekey is "burned". ---> Diversificate + Change Wallet / onto the next public key you had created...
What´s "Overcomplicated" if you can chill...hm?
Just wait for the hardware solutions...
Thanks for your posts!
For storing in long term seems paper wallet(s!) as best option.
Idea to encrypt wallet with gpg and spread it over world is awesome. But in short term it seems overcomplicated to work with it at daily basis(is it not?) and in long term you are still depending on private key (another storing or loosing problem...)
For storing in long term seems paper wallet(s!) as best option.
Idea to encrypt wallet with gpg and spread it over world is awesome. But in short term it seems overcomplicated to work with it at daily basis(is it not?) and in long term you are still depending on private key (another storing or loosing problem...)
Paper wallet(S!)
Not printet. "Polaroidparanoidstyle".
Photos laminated and deeeeep bury into the ground of a minefield at a warzone.
The problem is now, how to get back the wallet. Fuck it. I´m sending my troops for peace...
p.s Plural is important
Not printet. "Polaroidparanoidstyle".
Photos laminated and deeeeep bury into the ground of a minefield at a warzone.
The problem is now, how to get back the wallet. Fuck it. I´m sending my troops for peace...
p.s Plural is important
If my coins ever amount to a few thousand $$, I'll be creating an offline system for cold storage. The wallet files for that system will be treated the same way as my current wallets... Encrypted by the client, then GPG encrypted, and stored on multiple servers and locations.
I trust GPG more than I would trust a bank vault, and certainly more than a USB drive. I have GPG encrypted copies of my wallet on several home servers, my work computer, stored as GMail attachments, GDrive files, etc. I want there to be no chance of losing it.
Also, looking to the future, if I create a cold storage wallet that I don't intend to access for years, I will be storing encrypted copies of the plaintext keys, not a binary-format wallet. Formats change, and I don't want a file that bitcoin-qt 0.8.5 reads now, but bitcoin-wallet 7.4.2 doesn't understand. (Paper wallets already have this "feature", as they tend to just be a QR Code with the private key...)
My 0.000024096BTC...
grnbrg.
I trust GPG more than I would trust a bank vault, and certainly more than a USB drive. I have GPG encrypted copies of my wallet on several home servers, my work computer, stored as GMail attachments, GDrive files, etc. I want there to be no chance of losing it.
Also, looking to the future, if I create a cold storage wallet that I don't intend to access for years, I will be storing encrypted copies of the plaintext keys, not a binary-format wallet. Formats change, and I don't want a file that bitcoin-qt 0.8.5 reads now, but bitcoin-wallet 7.4.2 doesn't understand. (Paper wallets already have this "feature", as they tend to just be a QR Code with the private key...)
My 0.000024096BTC...
grnbrg.
Heavy duty precautions for such a modest amount of coins...but hey, you never know.
Offline Armory with encrypted and paper backups.
If my coins ever amount to a few thousand $$, I'll be creating an offline system for cold storage. The wallet files for that system will be treated the same way as my current wallets... Encrypted by the client, then GPG encrypted, and stored on multiple servers and locations.
I trust GPG more than I would trust a bank vault, and certainly more than a USB drive. I have GPG encrypted copies of my wallet on several home servers, my work computer, stored as GMail attachments, GDrive files, etc. I want there to be no chance of losing it.
Also, looking to the future, if I create a cold storage wallet that I don't intend to access for years, I will be storing encrypted copies of the plaintext keys, not a binary-format wallet. Formats change, and I don't want a file that bitcoin-qt 0.8.5 reads now, but bitcoin-wallet 7.4.2 doesn't understand. (Paper wallets already have this "feature", as they tend to just be a QR Code with the private key...)
My 0.000024096BTC...
grnbrg.
I trust GPG more than I would trust a bank vault, and certainly more than a USB drive. I have GPG encrypted copies of my wallet on several home servers, my work computer, stored as GMail attachments, GDrive files, etc. I want there to be no chance of losing it.
Also, looking to the future, if I create a cold storage wallet that I don't intend to access for years, I will be storing encrypted copies of the plaintext keys, not a binary-format wallet. Formats change, and I don't want a file that bitcoin-qt 0.8.5 reads now, but bitcoin-wallet 7.4.2 doesn't understand. (Paper wallets already have this "feature", as they tend to just be a QR Code with the private key...)
My 0.000024096BTC...
grnbrg.
The main part is in a paper wallet in a bank vault.
My main wallet is sitting on an offline linux box using Armoury . Encrypted to hell and back.
For encrypted pen drives, I like using the Ironkeys.
. Encrypted to hell and back. For encrypted pen drives, I like using the Ironkeys.
Another vote for Armory.
My main wallet is sitting on an offline linux box using Armoury. Encrypted to hell and back.
For encrypted pen drives, I like using the Ironkeys.
For encrypted pen drives, I like using the Ironkeys.
I am not satisfied with the way i handle wallet and i am willing to change it. I use more computers so i am thinking to get rid off wallet on disk and buy a small usb flash keychain like this http://www.verbatim.com/prod/usb-drives/everyday-usb-drives/store-n-go-micro-usb-drive/ or even http://www.corsair.com/usb-drive/flash-padlock-2-usb-drive.html install electrum(?) and make some offline backup (another flash under pillow? 
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How do you handle your bitcoins? Are you paranoic?
It seems that hardware devices (like http://www.bitcointrezor.com/) are still distant future
). How do you handle your bitcoins? Are you paranoic?
It seems that hardware devices (like http://www.bitcointrezor.com/) are still distant future
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