Topic: How effective is the covid vaccines ,Is it trustworthy enough (Read 489 times)

Nobody is saying that people were/are not sick, and that nobody died. Anybody can call the sickness what they want. Call it Covid-19. Or call it pneumonia-X. Or call it a variant of the standard flu. Or call it a bad cold. Or call it Mumbo-Jack... or anything else that you want to call it.

The fact is that no matter what it is called, it isn't a virus. Rather, it is poisoning, often done naturally through improper nutrition and hygiene, but more often done by the medical. After all, most of the people who died from Covid in 2020 were under a doctor's care.

Check this out - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60546971. And don't just glance at it and go away. But check it out in detail. Then follow up by watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman videos wherever you can find them - like Bitchute - https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=andrew%20kaufman&kind=video - or at Dr. Kaufman's own site - https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/.



EDIT: STW, Dr. Kaufman shows us why Ivermectin works against Covid so well. After all, Ivermectin is a parasite medicine, not a virus medicine. It's because Covid is not a virus. Rather, it is poisoning by parasites. Covid is a parasite disease.

Covid-19 is real, it is people who are affected by the virus and their family that can testify about the disease.  Don't mind the way government played  politics during the pandemic by collecting fund that was supposed to be used for the public . The disease is real, I can testify from my own experience.

The issue of covid vaccines is very complicated in my country. Firstly I have never seen any covid-19 patient but I have heard countless stories of infections and death. Maybe I and my immediate and extended family are quit fortunate not to have been infected. Secondly, the government of my country politicized the disease because they wanted to dubiously access the covid-19 emergency funds. Thirdly, my country is very religious and most religious leaders played down on the existence and potency of the virus and even discouraged there followers from accepting that it exists. My country has one of the lowest infection and vaccination rate in the world. Fourthly,the vaccine was hurriedly produced which points to the fact that directly or indirectly people would be used for experiments. I am just confused about the entire issue of covid-19.       

Almost all of the people in hospitals with Covid these days, are the ones that got the jab. They were poisoned enough that their immune systems couldn't resist their getting Covid.

Covid19 vaccine is only effective at the time coronavirus we are everywhere across the continent and across the nations and I can say that coronavirus or covid19 vaccine were under incubator that is why people where afraid of it because they were not totally sure of the effects of the drugs. But now since covid19 has reduced the vaccine is now out and people is using it.

As for what you found in your search, the legal .pdf, Big Pharma does this kind of stuff all over the place, backwards and forwards. But that is not the point.

The point is that if you take the time to check out what Dr. Kaufman says, and really think about it, he is explaining the bottom line regarding virus research. The bottom line is, when you get to the foundational research that explains what a virus is, and where a virus is located, there is no research that proves that the info has anything to do with real life situations.

In other words, there is virus info that seems to make sense, but there is no provable or proven connection where that info connects to the real world. Big Pharma simply has a dog and pony show, a smoke and mirrors explanation, but no proof that a virus exists, or that such a thing as a virus has anything to do with people.

In fact, as we are seeing with the Covid vaxx, it's essentially been the same throughout the history of vaxxes and medicine, that the vaxxes and other medicines are what is making people sick, sick in the various ways that the vaxxes are supposed to be protecting the people from.

How can you know? Slow down in your reading of the medical reports, and question everything written... every little word and phrase. If you do this you will find three things:
1. Written research reports have many limiting words in them, like "we think," "it looks like," "it seems to be," "etc.";
2. Those written research reports that say "such and such is proof," don't have a proving method that anybody can use to duplicate the work;
3. There is no connection between what is written and the real world; there is only wording that says there is a connection.

There is literally no connection between what is written about viruses, and the real world.

Hmm. I did the search, and I found this, where he ran a research project offering $25 Amazon gift codes as an incentive, but then secretly used the gift cards himself to buy personal items, and as a result went up before the North Carolina medical board and had his license suspended for unprofessional conduct.

Is that him?

Or is it this guy?




Difficult to distinguish between them when they are both career comedians.

^^^ As usual, joker above is repeating the "party line."

The fact is that the vaccine is slowly turning the world into a German WW2-style concentration camp, complete with death chambers.

It's taken quite a while to set it all up... probably well over 100 years. And the Covid vaxx isn't the first execution operation in the concentration camp... only the latest, and maybe the biggest.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman is one of the people who is showing this. But it takes a while to understand. You can't easily tear down a hundred years of propaganda in a few months. Dr. Kaufman's website is https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. But search on his name to find loads of videos that show that there aren't any viruses, and that they never have been proven to exist, at least not in the way the medical says they should be proven.

https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination#vaccines-save-lives

Diptheria was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Measles was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Mumps was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Pertussis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Acute Poliomyelitis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Paralytic Poliomyelitis was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Rubella was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Congenital Rubella Syndrome was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Smallpox was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job (oh, right, we already did that one).

Tetanus was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Hepatitis A was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Acute Hepatitis B was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Haemophilus Influenza Type B was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Pneumococca Disease was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.

Varicella was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job.




Feel free to copy/paste any of the above whenever you want to argue against facts.

Smallpox was declining naturally. The medical took advantage of the natural decline, and made it look like their vaccines did the job. Their vaccines took strength away from immune systems, and the people got sick in other areas that few doctors reported on... the connection between the smallpox vaxx and the other diseases. Meanwhile, smallpox continued its natural decline right off the pages of history.

https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox#summary


What caused this?
a) Vaccines.
b) God did it! But he couldn't be bothered to save lives until the exact same time that the vaccination programme began.
c) How dare you? I'm ideologically opposed to facts.

Vaccines are not safe or effective. The only good they might do in a few cases is to stimulate the immune system into hyperactivity, which might be a good thing for some people once in a while. But the result is a depleted and worn down immune system, which allows all kinds of maladies to enter, in the future.

It's July 2022. The Covid pandemic started over 2 years ago. Safe and effective vaccines were developed within months. The number of vaccine doses administered now numbers in the tens of billions. It's a triumph of science that the vaccines were developed so quickly and, apart from some distasteful vaccine hoarding by wealthier nations, a triumph of organisation that so many people have received their doses. Countless lives have been saved. And there are vast quantities of data from sources all around the world that prove this is true.

So why are people still arguing about whether the vaccines are safe or effective? If you don't understand how facts and evidence work, then you are ignoring logic altogether, and making a simple faith-based argument... in which case, please don't attempt to use logic to build a case for yourself, as you're simply undermining your own argument.

Just say "God came to me in a dream and said vaccines are evil" or "It doesn't mention Covid vaccines in the bible, so I'm against them". Don't try to prop yourself up with the very thing that you're trying to tear down.

Here is the history of how the vaccines are causing the diseases. Watch it, and tell us how you still still love the vaxxes. Video.

The End of Germ Theory - https://www.bitchute.com/video/B1d2a6rJWAhr/.

only understandable but no person that does not have side effect anybody including Corona virus have side effects and if it it depends on the consumption, so who so ever not inform you tabachines does not have side effect is a wrong medical practitioner nodoz overseas that is taken into the system that doesn't have side effects. Coronavirus vaccine is very obvious that it has a strong side effect after the injection, but I will advance people to take a sense it is been presented by the government and before government presented to the society with your has pass through many processes, so that is to say that world health organisation recognise the existence of Corona virus so it is good to be vaccinated against unknown viruses that will be effect human life or human white blood cells.

There are still differing opinions on this matter. Even in spite of the significant number of people who received vaccination, it is not possible so far to be certain that vaccination is effective for several reasons, the most important of which is that the vaccination industry did not take enough time for necessary experiments, tests and examinations to avoid complications over time.
And with the increasing complications regarding the complications that may be caused by vaccination, this issue will remain on the table.

So it is coming out in the open that the government was lying about the effectiveness of the vaxx. And this carries over to the safety of the vaxx. And that goes on to approximately everything the government tells us.

Watch the video where Dr. Birx is questioned by government regarding if the government lied, and the twisty, twisted answers she gives. What do you think she really thinks? It's evident from her words that she still thinks that the vaxx is really a vaccine, which it is not!


Birx Shaking and Stammering, Says She Doesn't Know if Government Was Lying About the Jabs

I think the vaccine is effective even if I haven't taken it before. With my experience with persons around me that have taken a vaccine before it worked for them. Since the vaccine came it has really really reduced rate at which people used to get infected of the disease,  the vaccine is effective.

People did not ignore taking the vaccine because they know what covid19 did to human life, vaccination is real and that time covid19 were active people took the vaccine to reduce the length of covid19 reaction to humans, so many countries has taken it and from what i taught of, the COVID is not merely serious as it were very active, right now i will merely encourage people for the country that the activeness of covid19 is high to take the vaccine so that it will stop the virus not to come from another body contact or air circulation, but many countries is free from covid19

I imagine the freedomsphoenix anti-science stupidity will continue well beyond two years.
I know they regard facts as being inconvenient, so they just ignore them, for example:


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

... but why don't freedomsphoenix post any facts of their own? Is it because none exist? Because they are just making stuff up to further their own agenda?

I say "they", but one look at the website reveals that every single article is written by "Robert Lee"... so the website is simply one man's ranting at stuff he doesn't like and doesn't understand. And he's well-aware of his deceit, because he hides behind a farcical racist pseudonym rather than admitting who he is, and using his real name.

The vaccines are totally NOT safe or effective. All you need do is a good study of the Open VAERS website (https://openvaers.com/). What you will see is that the CDC suggests that there are many thousands of deaths from the vaxxes, and Harvard School of Medicine shows that the CDC info is less than 1% of what is really happening.

If this site were the only website showing these things, one might be able to justify dismissing the harm done by the vaxxes. But since simple Internet searches show doctors from around the world, and even some medical groups in governments of some countries showing this, your only excuse for you ignorance is that you want to remain ignorant.

Of course, you might have another excuse, being, that you earn money disseminating lies.Who are you working for? The WHO? The FDA? The CDC? The drug companies?

The Vaccines are safe. I think this should be evident to all including you. Take a look at the numbers now the infection rates and the death rates. The numbers have plummeted now thanks to The Vaccines. If only more people will get vaccinated then we could surely get a chance to defeat the virus fully. People will be sceptical about anything but it's been proven that vaccines work.

My question is, is it only Reno? Or is it more of Nevada?


The Good Guys Just Won Big For a Change

I don't know if the vaccine is effective but all I can say is that, people reaction to the vaccine varies,to some people the vaccine has no side effect whatsoever on them but to some people the vaccine has made them develop body fever, skin irritation, even some people has died due to the reaction it has on them

   I can not rate if how effective the Covid vaccine due of many rumors I heard of the people on what feedback base on their experiences. Some I heard is people got an sever allergic but I also heard that definitely their okay. That is why I can not rate how is it effective the vaccine.

The batch number matters a lot, some are way deathlier than others
https://howbad.info/

The vaxx is about as effective as the medical leaders want it to be. It kills and maims large percentages of people, depending on how many times the get vaxxed with it. Population control.


Eight different surveys all show the vaccines are not "safe and effective" - not even close

IK it's no longer available in the wild. I was just wondering if a monkeypox epidemic would be a good time for someone to release smallpox since they can be mistaken for each other. This is assuming of course that the spread of monkeypox hasn't already triggered mass vaccination with the smallpox vaccine.

Some people believe whatever rumours they hear, other people look at the data.

Look at the data.

When it's a sunny day, and you look up and say 'the sky is blue and clear', and your friend says 'no, it's green with pink spots', then it's difficult to know what to say to them.

You need to understand how vaccination works.

Some people were saying this at the beginning. I'm not aware of anyone other than you saying this after a year and a half of vaccinations, and 12 billion doses administered worldwide. You're really stretching credibility to claim this is an early trial. The data are abundant, the proof of safety and efficacy absolutely crystal clear.

Look at the data.

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You've given the answer yourself, above. If the daughter had been vaccinated, chances are she wouldn't have infected the family.
Vaccination isn't magic, it doesn't give people superpowers or make them invulnerable. But it does confer a high (but not 100%) degree of protection. Look at the data. Here's a chart from 2021, for example.

Time and time again, people who got the toxic shot get covid.
People who are concerned about to many people in the world (Bill Gates and co) give out free vaccines to "save" people 


Facemasks contribute to the COVID-19 case fatality rate
https://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Fulltext/2022/02180/The_Foegen_effect__A_mechanism_by_which_facemasks.60.aspx

My friend who has taken the vaccine got the Covid virus last month after his daughter who was not vaccinated got infected with it. Since she stayed with the family, she ended up spreading it to the rest of the family. She was the only one who was not vaccinated in the house but every other person in the house who was vaccinated got infected. You ask yourself what is the need for getting the vac when you can still get traumatised with the infection. According to my friend it was a horrible experience. The body pains and the severe cough and the rest of what he passed through.

Smallpox has been eradicated, due to vaccination. That's why you no longer need to worry about smallpox.
Similarly, if you take the Covid vaccine, you don't need to worry about Covid so much.




Newspapers printing sensationalist crap is nothing new. If you want to know how effective the Covid vaccines are, then look at the data, not the newspapers.

Irish newspaper, how long will your countrys media take to come clean?

Yes you are absolutely right, because both the drugs we take have side effects in the body, but this covid19 we have to be careful for the vaccine we are taking to the body to prevent contacting a serious and and virus the vaccine is not out yet. No body is condemning to vaccinate but the place the vaccine from is it from the right source and is world health organization ( WHO) aware of the vaccine before vaccination. All this, is what we have to know before allowing anyone to vaccinate you

Compensation payments will go through the roof.
https://hongkongfp.com/2022/05/17/covid-19-hong-kong-govt-pays-out-hk2-million-for-indeterminate-case-of-post-vaccine-death/
So many people fell for the covid scam

They started reporting about using the smallpox vaccine for it. Now what's crazy if someone decided to also release smallpox which apparently have similar symptoms.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/28/pfizer-covid-vaccine-was-just-12percent-effective-against-omicron-in-kids-5-to-11-study-finds.html

Study finds Pfizer COVID vaccine only 11% effective in children ages 5-11, down from 68%

Some of the arguments for getting the vaccine also lied on preventing long COVID symptoms that might originate from someone that received COVID and recovered.

New study recently released on long term COVID: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-4905

There were no significant difference in inflammatory biomarkers from the control group and long term COVID group. The authors took some other measurements that were significant summarized in the link above, including that related to mental health.

It's not that children were particularly prone to long COVID anyways. But neither were adults.

So we see. Covid statistics are manipulated by governments. If anybody wants the truth, all he need do is go through Del Bigtree's videos at Bitchute.com - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. Of course, Del shows us loads of other places to go to see the truth he is showing us.


Mass die-off: Close to 180,000 died within 60 days of COVID-19 vaccination ­– England statistics office makes stunning admission

These talks about the covid vaccines as to whether they are good or not, needed or not etc., has been going on for quite a while now and people are still divided. But regardless, it doesn't matter if you are like ke who lives in a country that restricts people that are not fully vaccinated. Here, like some other countries, it doesn't matter whether you like to be vaccinated or not because regardless of your views, you will still need to get vaccinated. This is because you will jot be allowed entry on shops or any establishments if you do not have proof of vaccination. You also cannot work nor travel. What the government said was optional was not really optional. It's like these bastards are toying with the people.

In addition to this report, below, get over to Open VAERS - https://openvaers.com/ - and note two things:
1. The CDC death count listed on their "Red Box Summaries" page;
2. The site that relates that Harvard School of Medicine shows that this is only less than 1% of the actual Covid deaths.

Then consider that even if the deaths were limited to only what the CDC is willing to admit, that any other time in history, and for any other product or item, the big push would have stopped long ago, and the item taken off the market because of how dangerous it was.

This shows us that Government, the medical, and loads of other wealthy people are trying to reduce the population, and are using fake vaxx tactics to accomplish their agenda.

Plain and simple, mass murder genocide of people around the world.


The Covid-19 Vaccination Massacre

Is good to vaccinate during the time of coronavirus, but now i know that coronavirus is not active again in some many countries,  but i wonder why people will be vaccinating or taking vaccination serious. I know that covid19 brought many issues during the effective time but I don't really think that the issue or it matters is still in existence.

A study from over 130 countries concludes that mRNA vaccines are significantly associated with deadly blood clots.
Leading medical journal   https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/10/5/799/htm

You mean she doesn't exist?

Monkeypox is the ultimate IQ test some will fail even that one.

Honestly speaking I didn't take any vaccines for covid yet because I actually afraid of people falling sick after taking their doses and some of the persons which I personally knows lot of neighbour affected due to covid vaccine side effects more than the virus. Government forced us to take but I didn't, and I won't forever.

Also somewhat doubting whether it was really that safe since I did got some side-effects a few months later. Did got 2 shots though I've refused to take any boosters so far as I'm not required to take any and at this point, I'm ready to tell them to f off if they insist. My body my choice, aight?

But covid is nothing to worry now, looks like we got some new monkeypox going around now (seriously, I never knew it existed, I only got the chicken variant before, thankfully not the cow and never the small  )

Working very well....
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gslliUBu0Qvm/


White House Admits It Lied About Vaccines
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-admits-it-lied-about-vaccines

   I know we got a different opinions on this but in me in my condition at first I take my vaccine I felt muscle pain and Cold but after few day an I'm okay I thought I'm gonna die that time and to my second vaccine same I felt muscle pain but I also felt faint and after many days an I'm okay I don't know why I experience that kind of syntomps . For my booster maybe I will not go it to take cause I'm scared for what syntomps again

We're still at it? The detrimental effects of Covid on the population have been worse than they could have been because you conspiracy assholes have refused to put on masks and get vaccinated.

65.7% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
11.76 billion doses have been administered globally, and 7.36 million are now administered each day.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

And you're still coming up with this bullshit.

Before the vaxx, in the US, 94% of the people who died from Covid were sick, in the hospital, and often near death, anyway. The CDC said so. They called it comorbidities.

Now anybody can catch Covid easily if they have been vaxxed. Even the hospitals are reporting this.

The vaxx is creating Covid in people.

Any vaccine has side effects, but I think it is better to be vaccinated against Covid 19, as it is an unpredictable disease that can lead to serious complications

You can take the vaccine if you believe that you're in a high risk category that might be prone to severe illness and hospitalization death.

If you've survived this long, you've either already gotten the disease and built up natural immunity or have been able to successfully isolate yourself from human civilization to such a degree that Sars-COV-2 has physically not contacted you. Most likely the former. There's no incentive to receiving a COVID vaccine if you already gotten COVID. None.

And by the way, the vaccine will not prevent you from getting COVID. The may help for a severe infection. Vaccines were all designed for the alpha variant. And to my knowledge there aren't any approved omicron vaccines on the market.

Many believe that the vaccines have been pumped out too quickly without enough time to get properly tested, but I wonder if that is calculated with old data, actually old conceptions on what the time frame for that is because so far in history there hasn't been so much incentive (monetary and social) backed by big tech developments until this point, so all of our predictions on what timeframe something can be developed can be thrown out the window. It's a whole new ballpark we are playing in and with that in mind, this just might be possible to achive.

The vaccines are both safe and effective. I could understand a degree of skepticism in the early days, but now we have vast datasets covering almost everywhere in the world for over a year. There are countless examples of the evidence in the various Covid threads in P&S (along with humorous, idiotic and often quite hysterical counter-arguments from 5G-enthusiasts and their friends).

I think this question was resolved a long time ago.

There have been many assumed rumours about covid vaccines, how it isnt safe and a means of reducing the human populations, How a person who is vaccinated later  get infected with covid again even after collection of the vaccines ,many believe it too earlier and short for covid vaccines to be fully tested as effective enough,so it considered to be a trial process, while the world is assuring everyone of it safety and effectiveness,it even became mandated to access anything within a country.
Kindly feel free to drop your comment ,it will be gladly appreciated.