Topic: how I was deceived by the selling bitcoin (Read 649 times)
this is why I am not dealing with stranger person which I don't know and if I want to deal with someone, I will make sure that there is the third person that will watch our transaction and make sure everything is good. there are too many people that want to try to cheat with us especially if we cannot take care of what we want to sell and we need to ask someone or our friend to join with us in that transaction. I hope you don't have this bad experience again in the future.
Whenever you are making deals with a stranger, always, always tag along some friends with you as your back-up and for your safety as well. And never never ever take your eyes off even for a second to your product. Your dealings should always be spot payments. If they want it otherwise, cut off the deal.
This is correct anytime that you are going to do a trade with someone else you cannot go alone you need to ask a friend to back you up even if you are not expecting trouble, and if you are expecting trouble you must not make any trade with that person, but having someone else with you gives you an additional pair of eyes just in case the other person tries to deceive you. 
I sincerely regret all those people who got scammed. And I'm very glad that you write here about your experience. This information is very useful for beginners. I think that they are the most sensetive to deception.
Good afternoon evening night)
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
Its such a very bad situation. Its not a simple money it is 1.5 bitcoin in that case you should not have trusted anyone and you should not have left your wallet alone.You cant even file a case to police since it is not recognized as digital money. In this case i can feel pitty for you and be careful further, learn a leasson from your mistake.
That was a bad experienced for the op. I'm hoping that he is now okay with the situation. This is a common issue in doing a meetups transaction which you had no control of the situation. Not unless you have some bodyguards that will intimidate them. Beware of this type of transaction.
If you have the emails, they may be able to track the owner of the email? But if you go to the police, you may also have some problems if you didn't declare your bitcoin in your tax declaration as they may also search more information about you...
And i don't know if they would take the time to try to catch the thief...
this would be the problem,if the situation is same as you says .but it depends on where OPs region if the bitcoin is taxable of not.but still things dont favor to him because even the security cameras dont agree with him..i guess this will serve as learning from experience since its hes dis obedience and not tooking extra care why this happen And i don't know if they would take the time to try to catch the thief...
This must be a lesson learn to all of us not to deal with anonymous and never deal with our crypto currencies to other person unless in a crypto exchanges.
I think for another time you should be more careful, nothing else except you have to accept this condition.
and I suggest to you, if someday you make a transaction again, better do not it with people you do not know. or you can use escrow.
hackers, mining tool thieves, and loss are the risks we must accept when we are active in the crypto world. and they already to do action.
and I suggest to you, if someday you make a transaction again, better do not it with people you do not know. or you can use escrow.
hackers, mining tool thieves, and loss are the risks we must accept when we are active in the crypto world. and they already to do action.
the error at the time of bitcoin sale is we send bitcoin to wrong address and that we do when we copy address, it's a common mistake. I think we should be careful when sending an address to avoid being deceived.
Whenever you are making deals with a stranger, always, always tag along some friends with you as your back-up and for your safety as well. And never never ever take your eyes off even for a second to your product. Your dealings should always be spot payments. If they want it otherwise, cut off the deal.
friends! I fully agree with you! But this experience I want to share with you ! to my friends not are trapped such a situation! unfortunately, we have no laws on cryptocurrency. but this experience I share with you ! thank you for listening to me!)
Dont ever act alone if you want to do such transactions. Everything can be happen especially in crypto world there are a lot of bad people. I feel sorry for your lose and thats the very priceless experience and thank you for sharing such story.
What is the mountainous terrain avalanches crypto something legally in place wherein ye? If yes then surely the police could help the case, but if crypto is not permitted then to report to the police was also to no avail.
You should count yourself lucky as you hit a thief. One of people from my hometown was basically taken as hostage and killed to steal his bitcoins (not kidding) Police caught murderers after. (Country: Turkey)
This is awful, but I'm not really surprised people will do anything in order to get money this is why it is a bad idea to brag about the big trade that you made and the big profits that you have got, you could become a target not only for hackers but to people that will try to identify who you are and will go to your house and try to take your bitcoins by force. 
its hard to do transactions with unknown people, if ever you have a transaction better bring someone with you who knows everything about selling bitcoin in person, but as you say, you have learn from that experience so it is still good for you but bad for your supposed-to-be income.
This was indeed a very expensive learning experience on OP's side considering on the amount have been lost its not already a small amount.The thing i do question on my mind on he had stolen those bitcoins while the usb was placed only into your jacket? But i do suspect when he do tried to check out the balance theres already a script/tool for direct withdrawn and been transferred without being noticed by you. 
That was a very exasperating experience. Your feeling of loss is overwhelming. I am so sorry for you OP. You should have brought along a friend or two with you for security purposes. But then again, this was all "water under the bridge" now. Nothing you can do. I am quite sure you've already learned your lesson to not to be so trusting especially to strangers.
You have to be super careful while dealing with cryptos both online and offline, there are many scammers and fraudsters around, also it was your responsibility to keep your private keys and flash safe and only share awith the buyer after he paid you.
its hard to do transactions with unknown people, if ever you have a transaction better bring someone with you who knows everything about selling bitcoin in person, but as you say, you have learn from that experience so it is still good for you but bad for your supposed-to-be income.
Bitcoin now is selling like pancakes so any opportunity a person who has interest with bitcoin will take advantage of what you have. Be very careful with these kinds of people, they will do anything in their mind just to get hold of cryptocurrencies. If you make any transactions, make sure you know the person or get to know the person first if someone vouches him/her because this might happen to you.
Be very careful who you are dealing with. Nowadays specially when you're talking about money, scamming and frauds are most common. Better learn now from your mistakes.
You should count yourself lucky as you hit a thief. One of people from my hometown was basically taken as hostage and killed to steal his bitcoins (not kidding) Police caught murderers after. (Country: Turkey)
Financial fraud is the most common crime. You need to be careful and never trust anyone, although this practice does not help from hackers. But in this case you are to blame.
Financial practice in cryptocurrency is very risky and full of fraud indeed we ourselves must be careful in making decisions. as you say a lot of hackers are lurking 
Financial fraud is the most common crime. You need to be careful and never trust anyone, although this practice does not help from hackers. But in this case you are to blame.
Never selling in private meetings. To me it's better to pay commissions than to risk all my money or even my own health. Greed is bad after all.
Yeah, specially if its a huge amount of bitcoin better to have some escrow since this world of cryotcurrency is full of scam. Cryptocurrency are making big impacts now on the market and this means that a lot of people want to own this thing even in a wrong way, be careful and protect the money you work for before its too late.
Lose in trading is normal, just be positive thinking in the future can get more profit. Just keep do invest in trading.
In trading we must patience and invest for long term is better. If the money not be a problem also. Great learn is from our experiences.
In trading we must patience and invest for long term is better. If the money not be a problem also. Great learn is from our experiences.
Good afternoon evening night)
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
That's good of your very positive attitude in every lose trade we had here there are always things we've learn in result that we are not totally lose on that trade. Well in your case that happen it is really hard to give advise on that I suggest next time you will sell some Bitcoin of yours maybe you should sell it in friend of yours.
incidents of this kind provide a great lesson because a small mistake can make a very big problem. to say you are too careless to leave valuable assets such as yours. If you want the reports to the police I think police also will not be able to help much because it's a question about crypto, but can at least help for you still have the email at least his identity.
We are now at the age of massive stealers around. Your experience wasn't pleasant. Be more careful next time by doing some appointments to someone that you don't know his ability regarding new high technologies technique. Next time don't leave your flash drive unattended even in the circle of your friend.
thank you all for the advice...
Aww!don't trust to stranger, as this is your first meeting and you know your dealing him with something. next time don't leave your things again
I know that there are devices that can completely transfer all information from your gadget to yourself!But I do not know if it's possible to do this with Ledger!In general,it is better to buy a crypto currency from the tested sellers!
WTF were you thinking?
There is GDAX or Coinbase for this very purpose. Unless you really know the person you are dealing with, trying to save on transaction fee (and/or tax) by doing this risky deal is dumb (sorry).
Yes the only reason to do something like this will be if you want to preserve your anonymity but if you are going to do that you better bring company that way they are going to think twice before stealing from you. But if anonymity is not really a factor then you should always use an exchange it is more practical and you do not risk losing your coins in that way. There is GDAX or Coinbase for this very purpose. Unless you really know the person you are dealing with, trying to save on transaction fee (and/or tax) by doing this risky deal is dumb (sorry).
Sorry to.hear your loss but there is a saying that mistakes are the prices we pay for knowledge,now you know how deadly people can be and so such a mistake hopefully won't be repeated again.Karma however is still a bitch so don't worry at all,you will recover your losses
I just pray some one will come up with more help here and you can really recover your bitcoin. However, like you have said at list you have learned something and not only you some of us has learned something priceless though you are the one that pay the price.
Never selling in private meetings. To me it's better to pay commissions than to risk all my money or even my own health. Greed is bad after all.
You should not have done this, it was worthwhile before such a transaction to consult someone or read it here
Good afternoon evening night)
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
This is shit off topic nothing related to bitcoin or altcoin related discussion at all. There is separate for the guys like who really do the spam thread which not relevant to here. Go to "OFFTOPIC" child board.
Please do not use this section to do this. I suggest to lock this thread to go with the unnecessary chat on the wrong section.
Well he still stole something from you. You should contact the police!!
the police can't solve anything...unfortunately this is the caseI guess I don't fully understand what happened or how you lost the flash drive. You gave it to him and then went to the bathroom? Then he gave it back after and it was empty?
There is nothing really to add here that someone else hasn't already said.
Essentially, you're crazy if you go try to sell crypto to a complete stranger. Then leave said stranger with a flash drive containing your btc while you go to the bathroom.
This all seems like common sense. I do feel bad for you though.
There is nothing really to add here that someone else hasn't already said.
Essentially, you're crazy if you go try to sell crypto to a complete stranger. Then leave said stranger with a flash drive containing your btc while you go to the bathroom.
This all seems like common sense. I do feel bad for you though.
I never gave it, a usb drive was in the jacket. I went to the bathroom. when he returned and we started to check the contents it was empty
Well he still stole something from you. You should contact the police!!
I guess I don't fully understand what happened or how you lost the flash drive. You gave it to him and then went to the bathroom? Then he gave it back after and it was empty?
There is nothing really to add here that someone else hasn't already said.
Essentially, you're crazy if you go try to sell crypto to a complete stranger. Then leave said stranger with a flash drive containing your btc while you go to the bathroom.
This all seems like common sense. I do feel bad for you though.
There is nothing really to add here that someone else hasn't already said.
Essentially, you're crazy if you go try to sell crypto to a complete stranger. Then leave said stranger with a flash drive containing your btc while you go to the bathroom.
This all seems like common sense. I do feel bad for you though.
Yes, this is an unpleasant situation. One must be careful in such cases and not act alone. It is always better to come with a friend or relative, so that at least one person can control the situation.
this situation is difficult to solve on other people, my advice should be such affairs resolved with people close, I agree with you 
I am sorry for your ordeal, I could remember someone saying he use to take gun with him anytime he wants to do BTC transaction face to face, alot of people have been robbed of their precious BTC, this is a lesson to all security of ones life and asset is very important and story like this happen often
Yes, I understand I made a mistake but there's nothing to return to ) learn from my mistakes )
You made very big mistake. 1,5 bitcoin it is not like few dollars. You should take your flash drive together. Reporting this to the police can be problematic, so it is hard to help
Such a big mistake you made there buds. You know how crypto works. You should never trust anyone. Establishments keep saying that you shouldn't leave your things unattended. This people is ready for you, they know hacking stuffs that you don't know. I don't think police can help us due to lack of evidence. They must have a powerful tool or at least they have the same exact USB you brought and exchanged it.
When dealing with a complete stranger and value like crypto. It is always better to make sure you check constantly and never trust the person.
Would you leave some one with $10,000 of your cash for 3 minutes?
Silly mistake, probably good as gone, if you have his real details you can try the police, theft is theft, doesn't matter what it is.
Silly mistake, probably good as gone, if you have his real details you can try the police, theft is theft, doesn't matter what it is.
WTF were you thinking?
There is GDAX or Coinbase for this very purpose. Unless you really know the person you are dealing with, trying to save on transaction fee (and/or tax) by doing this risky deal is dumb (sorry).
There is GDAX or Coinbase for this very purpose. Unless you really know the person you are dealing with, trying to save on transaction fee (and/or tax) by doing this risky deal is dumb (sorry).
is there a lot of scam everywhere in this site? i mean in bitcointalk im newbie so i dont know about that could someone teach me about that and
where i should i to be careful?
where i should i to be careful?
If you have the emails, they may be able to track the owner of the email? But if you go to the police, you may also have some problems if you didn't declare your bitcoin in your tax declaration as they may also search more information about you...
And i don't know if they would take the time to try to catch the thief...
And i don't know if they would take the time to try to catch the thief...
Never leave your wallet alone... You also have the emails of that person? You should declare this to the police.
No tangible assets are stolen. Bitcoin in most countries does not recognized as the digital currency. What can the police do in this case?
Yes, this is an unpleasant situation. One must be careful in such cases and not act alone. It is always better to come with a friend or relative, so that at least one person can control the situation.
I agree with you ) but it was not possible to invite relatives.. and friends were away.. just be careful friends! this post will be a proof that anything is possible
Never leave your wallet alone... You also have the emails of that person? You should declare this to the police.
Letters there is, even there is number the phone. But the police won't take a statement. Because they won't be able to find out where BTC were listed .. the situation is lost.. be vigilant)
Ouch. Bad experience for sure. It is a reminder that you always need to keep an eye on your investment.
That and investing in security is the safe way to keep your investment.
That and investing in security is the safe way to keep your investment.
Yes I agree with you but if not trust all. it is possible to become crazy
Never leave your wallet alone... You also have the emails of that person? You should declare this to the police.
Ouch. Bad experience for sure. It is a reminder that you always need to keep an eye on your investment.
That and investing in security is the safe way to keep your investment.
That and investing in security is the safe way to keep your investment.
Yes, this is an unpleasant situation. One must be careful in such cases and not act alone. It is always better to come with a friend or relative, so that at least one person can control the situation.
Good afternoon evening night)
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
I want to say when I lose something that I still try to believe that I still got something.... and it is an experience and it is priceless)))
Ah so here is the situation the next.. on one site announcements I uploaded the Intel that will sell 1.5 bitcoin without commissions )
Two days later, the message arrived in the mail... with a request to meet ...in anticipation of the meeting I took the flash drive with the keys and went to coffee in our city...
The meeting with the buyer was simple.. nothing complicated stick lying in the pocket of his jacket ... I went to the bathroom for 3 minutes....
come he says well, let's see your chops... well, I'm like come on... eventually... my flash drive was empty.... as Huh AS I can not understand... is within 3 minutes, really all to bear with the stick to remove and hit the road... I wanted to see the cameras later... but the cameras aren't shooting at that place... more shortly... sell everything in your network from the comfort of home )
Maybe someone will help... And if there are people in the know explain how they pulled it off...
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