Topic: How is Bit Civilization constructed? (Read 238 times)

Civilization might be a far fetched word right now I do think that Bitcoins for a while might struggle with the governmental laws and at the same time struggle with how people are able to integrate it I'm everyday's lifecycle, I do believe that the biggest thing bitcoins did was to allow people to invest, literally, to allow anyone to invest in the whole things and at the end of the day to shift the riches around, which is honestly very rare to see because all we have seen is how the *rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer* but right now if you are wise and you know what you are doing then there is no way that you won't be able to gain profits.

In my opinion, Bitcoin is building a new consensus, a completely decentralized consensus. It gives more ordinary working people a brand new choice. In the past, ordinary working people could only store their wealth in accordance with the requirements of the country, but after the emergence of Bitcoin, a whole new possibility appeared. The people can choose Bitcoin to store their wealth, and the people have gained true freedom.

I'll contend bitcoin doesn't so much alter the nature of consensus.

It opens the door to low income bracket, unprivileged, demographics having access to consensus options which were previously only available to the wealthy. Helping to balance wealth and wage disparities. Tangible benefits provided to society by bitcoin are manifest in its market cap and success.

Shifts in perception are another way in which BTC affects consensus. One common consensus says only governments and corporations can be counted on to address legitimate issues faced by society. Cryptocurrency markets have shown independents with have a good idea can create a new brand or product that grants people options and opportunities they never had before.

Here, I am not giving too much hope to mankind, but full of too much hope for Bitcoin. A large part of the history of human civilization in the past few thousand years is a history of war, full of wars, divisions, famines, and power. Human beings have rarely been able to truly build a fair, free and equal world. Because all consensus is based on centralized violent rule, based on human governance. However, when Bitcoin was born, everything changed. It gave mankind a brand-new governance model, machine governance and machine trust based on mathematical algorithms. When a consensus mechanism is established through mathematical algorithms, no one can tamper with it unless it obtains collective consensus and collective trust. This effectively avoids centralization. Therefore, Bitcoin brings hope to mankind.

Civilizations are often built near resources like food and water which is why Egypt is near the Nile River. The Bitcoin community started with Libertarianism and then evolved into a resources-driven community as people are making money knowing that Bitcoin is a currency on its own. Forking coins multiply resources and then we now have more resources and the market grows.

It's a big ecosystem already. Newcomers, however, had not even learned about Bitcoin anymore especially in the gaming industry which they are introduced to games that let them make money. Maybe the new generations also might not hold BTC anymore but more of the tokens are the only available to them.

If human beings cannot even reach a consensus on something as fundamental as human life, I don't think they could reach a consensus on something far more trivial as Bitcoin. Perhaps you are putting too much hope on humans. Humans have roamed the planet for many thousands of years and disagreements in all kinds and levels are always within them.

Humans have never been successful in building a fair, free, and equal world. Bitcoin couldn't address this.

The surface phenomenon of Bitcoin is a kind of absolute credit, decentralization, value without proof, and can be transferred and traded.
But in fact, the nature of Bitcoin has nothing to do with credit or currency. Bitcoin is the first existence independent of human civilization after the birth of human civilization on the earth.
This is another leap in the history of human civilization since stone civilization and electrical civilization. From being restricted by nature to using nature and transforming nature, mankind is about to enter the era in which human beings are invented by themselves to restrict mankind.
The age of machines. The development of artificial intelligence will eventually introduce Bitcoin into the interconnection between machines. Once the machine world has its own operating rules and its own flow of incentives, humans may no longer prevent the rise of the new era.

The Bitcoin consensus is well-founded and does not appear out of thin air. I trust this consensus, and the intrinsic value of Bitcoin will be amplified in the near future, but the birth of civilization is a long process. I don’t Knowing that the rest of my life will have the opportunity to live in that beautiful era.

Yes, Bitcoin has given mankind a whole new choice. Ordinary people can choose to give up legal currency and embrace Bitcoin. Bitcoin gives the people real freedom, not only freedom of wealth, but also freedom of thought. This is why I emphasized that the idea behind Bitcoin is more important. I believe that Bitcoin is building a new human civilization, and more and more people will reach a consensus on this.

The way you see the civilization of the world today is made possible by the innovative power of man. We know of thousands of such inventions in the known history of the world that changed the way people lived and civilization since the creation of bitcoin's civilization, people have moved from advanced to advanced many changes have taken place in the way of life of the people. The world of technology to take civilization forward the Internet can be used to generate digital currency using the power of computers bitcoin was born to improve the quality of human life.

To some extent, human beings are very sad. Human beings have not reached a consensus on the value of human life. They are always fighting and killing each other. But when Bitcoin was born, it gave ordinary people a brand new choice to build a more fair, free, and equal world. Maybe this world is still very far away from us. But we have now seen the dawn, and it will definitely come.

According to the op, the way to build a Bitcoin civilization is a war. The technological civilization represented by Bitcoin (based on the underlying technology of the blockchain) challenges the old civilization represented by geopolitics.

At present, the old forces have already sounded the call. Many big countries (with strong economic power) have begun to boycott Bitcoin and ban mining. As we all know, China is a country with 25% of the world's population. Bitcoin not only faces political risks, but also faces security risks. I think there is little chance of victory in this war. How did the Bitcoin civilization emerge? And the Bitcoin development team, consensus divergence, and the emergence of forked coins? It is difficult to predict how Bitcoin will develop next. But idealistic ideas always make people feel good, but I hope that when I run forward, I don’t forget to look at the road under my feet. Metaphysical philosophy is always tiresome, even exhausting. Ideals are full, and reality is very skinny. If you are the boss of the Bitcoin development team, I think you should first simulate the situation and ask Biden, Putin, and Xi Jinping whether they can accept Bitcoin?

I believe that the United States will not give up the status of the US dollar as the world currency until the end of the day, because it is the core pillar of the US economy.

Well, thank you for your understanding. Now we are facing an uncertain future with countless options. Every choice we make will change the direction of the future. I firmly believe that human beings will build a brand new human civilization centered on Bitcoin in the future. This is also the belief that supports my future exploration. So I will follow this timeline to explore. Maybe there will be many setbacks and countless difficulties in this process, but I will continue to implement it because this is my mission. Thanks to every friend who communicated with me along the way.

i understand your philosophy. but you forget what the banks done with their bank note pegs to gold. after the 1970's

and why gold is not the international reserve and instead an unpegged fiat currency is..

i understand you aspire to see an effort by developers to retain the peg/bridge/ramp to bitcoin. much like you wished governments retained the gold backed peg of bank notes.
but im afraid that the economic strategy of devs is to be too much like fiat. and not gold

when you start to see 'bitcoin locks' (the vaulting up). and then in these bridged/ramped networks(recepts notes, invoices, tokens).. then offering altcoin swaps at exit. you start to see the same 'gold in - nickel out' paradigm on repeat

I carefully read every sentence of your comment, and the overall view you expressed is similar to what I thought. Your example of the "golden age" here is very appropriate. I will elaborate on my philosophy here. I am definitely not standing on the road of fantasy, but with solid theoretical support and practical support.

1. The "bit civilization" I am talking about must not only have one Bitcoin main chain to build a civilization, it is ultimately the interconnection of 10,000 chains. The Bitcoin main chain is the king of these 10,000 chains and the center of value;

2. "Bit Civilization" is not only Bitcoin itself, but more importantly the thought represented by Bitcoin: decentralization, transparency, equality, freedom, core, fairness, privacy, etc. Bitcoin itself represents these ideas. Under the guidance of these ideas, we have established a prosperous crypto world. The current crypto world is the embryonic form of the future bit civilization;

3. In the future, Bitcoin is not suitable as a currency for direct payment, but is stored in the form of value, similar to the role of digital gold. Then issue the payment currency in the form of anchoring gold;

4. In the future, many public chains will be linked to the main Bitcoin chain to transfer Bitcoin across the chain. Then anchor Bitcoin to issue stablecoins or other payment currencies. It's just that there is no very mature technical solution yet, and the decentralization of Bitcoin's cross-chain cannot be realized. If this problem can be completely resolved, the value of Bitcoin will be fully released. Of course, it must be done when the technology is fully mature and there are no loopholes;

5. When I write these articles, first of all I look forward to and predict the future as my guiding ideology in practice. Under the guidance of these ideas, carry out the practice of "bit civilization". I have the world's top encryption research and development team, and we have been doing the research and development of the corresponding cross-chain bridge for the past two years. We will launch our own project soon. This project is also centered on "Bit Civilization". Our goal is to create a model market for "Bit Civilization". Really release the value of Bitcoin.


The road ahead is very bumpy, but I believe that the light will come eventually.

if it wasnt for egypt and greece. roman empire would not have happened.
but these days no one cares about egypt greece or rome.
these days . rome is a place for pizza . greece is a place for lamb kebabs. and egypt is a place that has pyramids and camels.

you cant just create a civilisation now based on dreams and fantasy and philosophy of past events
the underpinning thing(bitcoin) actually has to have purpose that brings people together today..now.

right now devs are tearing each other apart trying to find new networks to bridge to bitcoin to offramp people away from bitcoin into these other networks. pretending these other networks are bitcoin.
its getting so bad that those pretending they support bitcoin while wanting these offramps then argue that those not wanting offramps are the ones not supporting bitcoin(facepalm) and the ones not supporting the offramps should find themselves another network.. (double facepalm)


its not the golden era anymore. its becoming the other network banking 'note' era.
devs feel we have surpassed the wildwest gold era. where people trade gold personally.

they want us playing with other network tokens/receipts 'pegged' to bitcoin but not actually hold.. confirmed on our key actual bitcoin.

so keep that in mind.
you originally were on that trail a few articles ago but it seems now you are making a tangent in a fantasy direction where you think its still the wildwest of goldbug era..

so lets bring you back to reality.
the current plan devs fore-see is that bitcoin, like gold in the 1900's will be not an currency but an asset locked up in vaults. where people then trade receipts/tokens/promises/bank notes of unconfirmed asset.
and due to the 'weight' of the asset(no coincidence they called it weight in the code). too expensive to then withdraw the asset when swapping the receipts for it. so instead people will be offered alternative less valued but less weighty assets.(altcoins atomic swaps)

so we are at the 1930's-1970's era where gold(bitcoin) is losing its importance. and most are playing with bank notes(pegs) and nickel(altcoins)

so its difficult to create a civilisation around an asset when even the devs involved in bitcoin are moving away from wanting people to use bitcoin personally.

In my opinion, the first thing Bitcoin wants to be a civilization is to be recognized by the majority.

I suddenly remembered  that Charlie Munger calls bitcoin ‘disgusting and contrary to the interests of civilization’.Charlie Munger
Has Bitcoin already developed into a product against the current civilization?

Perhaps from our current perspective, Bitcoin is far from reaching the level of civilization. I put forward the concept of "Bit Civilization" here, which is to predict and evolve the direction of Bitcoin's development in the next 20 years. That is, in the future, we will use Bitcoin to transform our entire human society. Transform the current centralization-led society into a decentralized-led society. Especially at the level of social governance, comprehensive implementation of blockchain-based governance. For your example, nuclear energy, sustainable energy, etc. belong to specific technological applications and belong to the category of productivity. What Bitcoin changes is the relationship between social production and distribution.

I don't know if Bitcoin can be a foundation to improve or advance as a civilization, I feel like there are other technology that probably fits the keyhole as an advancement in civilization, for example nuclear energy, sustainable energy, sustainable food supply or sea steads. I think bitcoin is lacking a lot of aspects to help us advance as a civilization, maybe in terms of financial, bitcoin can help a lot but I think bitcoin is just one part of the many components for us to advance as a species and civilization.

Hopefully, by the promotion of a series of articles of mine, the concept Bit Civilization could be widely spread to the entire crypto world. More and more crypto projects are emerging there, but the vast majority of them choose to abandon Bitcoin, claiming that they will surpass Bitcoin. Unfortunately, they ignored the truth that the entire crypto world came because of Bitcoin and however developed the crypto world can be, Bitcoin will always be its king, enhancing its progress into an more advanced human civilization: Bit Civilization.

In my opinion, Bit Civilization is a higher civilization based on the idea of Bitcoin and will transform all aspects of human society, including but not limited to organization, family concept, tool, language, word, belief, law, system, city-state, country, assets, ethics, culture and art. The booming crypto world is the embryonic form of Bit Civilization in the future.


Substantially, human civilization is consensus, so is Bit Civilization. Consensus constitutes value and value constitutes civilization. It is not shaped quickly in a short time but reached by various ethnic groups in the long-term cultural communication. In addition, a new human infrastructure will be accomplished with Bitcoin as the kernel. When more and more people reach a consensus on that, a more advanced, transparent, freer and opener human civilization will slowly come into being.

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So, how would this higher human civilization be built?
How could we evolve into that civilization?


To fully understand the way of construction of Bit Civilization and learn from it, we must firstly have the philosophical cognition that humans live in two worlds.

Personally, one is the world of objective existence, and the other is of subjective thinking. Our purpose of understanding the world is, more importantly, to discover the essence through the appearance, to find out the unchanging laws underneath.

The objective one is the material and perceptible world, the sum of all material movements outside human conscious. In the sense of content, it's composed of two parts: the existence of nature and the social being of humans. The former does not depend on human activities and exists independently, while the latter is formed in human practical activities but not affected by human consciousness.


What the two have in common is their objective reality and material principle. Their existence is non-ideological .


The subjective world refers to human consciousness and concepts, the sum of the mental and psychological activities of human brain when dealing with the material world. It includes not only the process of conscious activity, but the concept created during that process, that is, the result of conscious activity. These consciousnesses and concepts together formed a subjective realm outside the material world.


Desire, emotion, aspiration, will, goal, concept, belief, thinking, etc. of humans are all different forms and manifestations of the subjective world. The basic viewpoints and concepts of the objective and subjective worlds helps greatly in grasping the nature of civilization and the way it is constructed.


Organization, family concept, tool, language, word, belief, law, system, city-state, country, assets, ethics, culture, art and so forth are the core elements of the construction of human civilization and the external manifestation of it. They belong to the subjective world and are the reaction of our mind to the objective world. All of these exist only in our brains, they are part of our spiritual cognition, imprint and DNA.


Substantially, the contents of spiritual level are all consensus formed by human beings. Hence, building human civilization is founding consensus. Constructing Bit Civilization is allowing more people to reach a consensus on those notions. Bit Civilization emerges with gathering consensus among human beings.


Providing a baby has no access to parental and school education and influence from people around, then it knows nothing about human society, such as country, currency, religion, justice, freedom, property. All these concepts are given by external consensus, not instinctive.


Schools teach knowledge that has been recognized by the world, in other words, consensus exists in what would be taught, which has been temporarily proved to be correct and useful. Education and learning is silently shaping our own view of the world and values, shaping our own subjective world.


In my opinion, the essence of human civilization is consensus and human civilization is endorsed by the collective consensus of mankind. My reasons are as follows:

• 1. The evolution of human civilization is the process of reaching a consensus on the spiritual level, and consensus is the gene of human spiritual civilization;
• 2. Things are of no value. It is human consensus that assigns value to them. The essence of value is consensus;
• 3. Human civilization evolution is the course of constantly reaching consensus and creating value;
• 4. Knowledge is a consensus collection passed down and accumulated by human civilization from generation to generation, while wisdom is our ability to acquire and use knowledge;
• 5. It takes energy for humans to reach a consensus, and fostering a consensus is creating a new human civilization.

Is the construction of Bit Civilization clear to you now? I believe by proposing the concept, communicating with community members to refine it and promoting it in the encryption world can attract more and more people to understand and support this idea and truly make Bit Civilization a consensus.


This is the construction of Bit Civilization in my eyes. I write these articles now as the first step of my entire career. I welcome your opinions.