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legendary
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Puton seek to correct his mistake by double negation. He knows he is wrong and his actions have led to great destruction to ukraine and workd, and now by associating his ukraine invasion as a step for liberating donbas region. He intends to prove his actions right.. He will continue his war until someone stops him or he get his mental peace, that his war was pious war of liberation

Putin knows he is right. Part of his rightness comes from the fact that he filed based on Article 51 in the UN Charter... before he did any of the invasion. Can anyone find where the UN Security Counsel formally admonished Putin and/or Russia for this action? If not, Putin is acting legally. And when you add that to the reasons why he did it, you will see he is acting rightly in it.

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legendary
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Puton seek to correct his mistake by double negation. He knows he is wrong and his actions have led to great destruction to ukraine and workd, and now by associating his ukraine invasion as a step for liberating donbas region. He intends to prove his actions right.. He will continue his war until someone stops him or he get his mental peace, that his war was pious war of liberation
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.

The world is trying to stop the bloody unjustified war started by Putin in Ukraine. Putin needs this war to prevent the overthrowing of his corrupted government. And you shouldn't be Albert Einstein to know that your approval rating will rise during the war.

I hope it's stopped now because even though we were miles and miles away from ground zero, we are still suffering and feeling the effect of the current war on our economy and the essential needs prices are rising because of the current oil price hike. This is not for the sake of Ukrainian anymore but also for the other country that was already suffering and with this war going on, they even suffer more right now because the economy is failing and it is hard to get up when things like this continue to happen in the future.

Stopping the Russian aggression was never for the sake of Ukraine only. Putin, this unethical moron, thinks he is like Peter the Great(he really said that in a recent interview, crazy, huh?). Now he basically admits that this war is about expansion. Do you think he would stop after invading Ukraine? Hardly.

It's in the interests of the whole civilized world to stop this crazy builder of the new Russian empire as soon as possible.
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I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

False. Russia will hit until it will be able to do so. For russia (not only for Ukraine, yep) this was is existential. If it will fail - for russia this will means an and and country (as we know it) will collapse.
That rare case when I agree with you. Russia does not have much choice to continue or end, there is too much at stake.

The Ukraine is so fragmented with little, local political groups, and even groups claiming they are the real Ukraine, that it is amazing that her soldiers are as strong as they are. All they keep saying over to themselves is, this is for Ukraine. They don't really even know what that means, since so many of them have Russian friends and relatives.

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I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

False. Russia will hit until it will be able to do so. For russia (not only for Ukraine, yep) this was is existential. If it will fail - for russia this will means an and and country (as we know it) will collapse.
That rare case when I agree with you. Russia does not have much choice to continue or end, there is too much at stake.
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I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

False. Russia will hit until it will be able to do so. For russia (not only for Ukraine, yep) this was is existential. If it will fail - for russia this will means an and and country (as we know it) will collapse.

So, taking into account this information you could try to calculate the and of the war by yourself )

If you want to know more, you can read this guy - https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1497993363076915204

Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

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Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.

And this is very good point! From your second point it's obvious that first point is wrong: russian wants full victory, means "to occupy all Ukraine", not just few middle cities on the south and east.

For example, russian neo-nazi writer, bulba de thones has the same vibes:
"PФ xoчeт выйти из вoйны пocлe эпичнoй битвы зa Дoнбacc, кoтopaя пoдмeнилa coбoй пoлный пepeфopмaт тeppитopий Укpaины. Bы жe в нaчaлe CBO тoжe мeчтaли o взятыx c бoями 3,5 cёлax?"

He is complaining that initially russian goal - to occupy all Ukraine and to kill or rusificate all ukrainians is not achievable. Overwhelming majority of russians think in the same way.

So gnomes can't just stop the war without major negative consequences for themselves.

Here, even local kremlin puppets confirm this take:

Russia does not have much choice to continue or end, there is too much at stake.

And this is no joke or smth like that. This is the main vibe of russian society.
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Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.

That would work with the French or Germans, but it will never work with Ukrainians.

Even if he would manage to control these territories today, Russians will be dying for the foreseeable future, until Ukraine gets its territories back. No matter if it takes 2, 5, 10, or 40 years. Russians will be defeated in those territories. Too many atrocities were committed by the Russian soldiers in Ukraine. There will be no going back to pre-2022 relations with Russia.

People who think some sort of territorial succession can be achieved, do not understand Ukrainians, their nationalism, and what exactly happened in Ukraine.

Just the same, the nationalism of Ukrainians is very well understood, which is why this operation of demilitarization and denazification is being carried out. In the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, the queue is a month ahead for obtaining Russian citizenship. In September, children in the liberated territories will go to school and follow the Russian curriculum, including the Russian anthem and the hoisting of the Russian flag every morning. I think after 20 years of continuous efforts, only vague memories will remain of Ukrainian nationalism.
legendary
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Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.

That would work with the French or Germans, but it will never work with Ukrainians.

Even if he would manage to control these territories today, Russians will be dying for the foreseeable future, until Ukraine gets its territories back. No matter if it takes 2, 5, 10, or 40 years. Russians will be defeated in those territories. Too many atrocities were committed by the Russian soldiers in Ukraine. There will be no going back to pre-2022 relations with Russia.

People who think some sort of territorial succession can be achieved, do not understand Ukrainians, their nationalism, and what exactly happened in Ukraine.
legendary
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Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.

Stalin essentially destroyed the Soviet Union by doing just that. The leaders after Stalin couldn't stop the fall of the U.S.S.R.

In the new Russia, Putin and those before him don't/didn't operate like that. They recognize the Stalin failure, and are doing things differently... because they don't want national failure to happen again.

Putin is having success because he is doing it based (more or less) on free trade... or was until the sanctions. His reactions to the sanctions are showing us that his free trade is stronger than US/Europe sanctions.

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Really depends on what Putin is able to sell as a win domestically. There's a lot of Russian losses, sure, but Ukranians are hurting too, and Putin's territorial gains in the East are non-trivial. If the Donbas is secured + a land corridor to Crimea, and he can get some kind of negotiated promise of Ukranian neutrality re: joining NATO, then that might be enough to sell domestically as a win.

Remember, Russians have historically tolerated leaders that have racked up high domestic body counts, but have been less tolerant of leaders perceived as weak. Hence, Putin's survival lies in being able to spin a tale of victory.
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The world is trying to stop the bloody unjustified war started by Putin in Ukraine. Putin needs this war to prevent the overthrowing of his corrupted government. And you shouldn't be Albert Einstein to know that your approval rating will rise during the war.

I hope it's stopped now because even though we were miles and miles away from ground zero, we are still suffering and feeling the effect of the current war on our economy and the essential needs prices are rising because of the current oil price hike. This is not for the sake of Ukrainian anymore but also for the other country that was already suffering and with this war going on, they even suffer more right now because the economy is failing and it is hard to get up when things like this continue to happen in the future.
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I stand with Ukraine.
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I agree with you. Using nukes may very well turn the remaining few allies of Russia against it. Nobody wants nukes used in any war on earth. That's why we have the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty. Violate the Treaty and you'll see armies from all over the world on your land sooner than you think.

Imagine that you are walking down the sidewalk, a peaceful, nice day, you are even whistling, the sun is shining, life is good.

Then 20 big, mean bullies pop up out of nowhere and are out to kill you... I mean, really kill you dead, and you know it. Like Russia, you are not ready for it.

But what will you do? If you have a couple of grenades, won't you toss them into the group, even though it kills you along with most of the bullies?
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No! I wouldn't do that! Would you? Really? To sacrifice your life to ... what exactly? What if your "knowledge" is wrong? What if the "bullies" were actually helping you all the time through history? What if they want to help now too, and you what, blow yourself up along with them?

The world is trying to take Russia out with their sanctions. And they seem willing to do it even though it is destroying their own economies and killing their own people.
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The world is trying to stop the bloody unjustified war started by Putin in Ukraine. Putin needs this war to prevent the overthrowing of his corrupted government. And you shouldn't be Albert Einstein to know that your approval rating will rise during the war.
legendary
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Long enough to bankrupt the US and Western Europe.



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Putin is not losing this war but winning then why he will stop it before he fully compels US and Europe to accept his conditions to end this war . In the beginning it looked like as he won't be able to sustain his economy due to harsh sanctions imposed on Russia but he survived and now value of Ruble is even stronger than before war broke out. On the other hand US and its allies are feeling the adverse outcome of this war on their economies.

Exactly!

Russia is a big enough country, especially if you include Siberia, that they don't need the rest of the world. Sanctions aren't hurting Russia. They are cutting the rest of the world off from gaining any more of Russia's wealth. People need to wake up to this simple fact.

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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Long enough to bankrupt the US and Western Europe.



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Putin is not losing this war but winning then why he will stop it before he fully compels US and Europe to accept his conditions to end this war . In the beginning it looked like as he won't be able to sustain his economy due to harsh sanctions imposed on Russia but he survived and now value of Ruble is even stronger than before war broke out. On the other hand US and its allies are feeling the adverse outcome of this war on their economies.
legendary
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Putin allegedly treated for cancer in April: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

The clear and obvious mental decline and oddities associated with Putin's physical behavior gave everyone the indication that his health wasn't in a great place. His time is limited and the only question remains is who will take his place, and whether that person will continue war efforts. How long do you all think Putin has until his own officials throw him over or he dies of cancer?

However Russia is run, essentially there is a group of people, many former KGB just like Putin, who decide on a regular basis if Putin should remain in power, or if one of the others should replace him. So far they are voting for Putin.

Even if a few of them don't like a few of the things that Putin is doing, or even if the bunch of them don't like some of it, they haven't found anybody who could do it better. If Putin dies of cancer, they will want someone in power who will do it like Putin is doing it. The next guy will be another Putin... for at least a little while.

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legendary
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Putin allegedly treated for cancer in April: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

The clear and obvious mental decline and oddities associated with Putin's physical behavior gave everyone the indication that his health wasn't in a great place. His time is limited and the only question remains is who will take his place, and whether that person will continue war efforts. How long do you all think Putin has until his own officials throw him over or he dies of cancer?
legendary
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If he drops a nuke, I think it will be the 'all gloves off' type of a fight. I don't think he will go there. Russia is not ready for it.
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I agree with you. Using nukes may very well turn the remaining few allies of Russia against it. Nobody wants nukes used in any war on earth. That's why we have the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty. Violate the Treaty and you'll see armies from all over the world on your land sooner than you think.

Imagine that you are walking down the sidewalk, a peaceful, nice day, you are even whistling, the sun is shining, life is good.

Then 20 big, mean bullies pop up out of nowhere and are out to kill you... I mean, really kill you dead, and you know it. Like Russia, you are not ready for it.

But what will you do? If you have a couple of grenades, won't you toss them into the group, even though it kills you along with most of the bullies?

The world is trying to take Russia out with their sanctions. And they seem willing to do it even though it is destroying their own economies and killing their own people.

I don't like the idea of war any more than anyone else. But if anyone thinks that Russia is just going to roll over and let themselves be destroyed without a fight, they're crazy. And since Russia has the idea of controlling the world anyway... the possibility of them using nukes that take the whole world back to the dark ages is something they just might do.

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I stand with Ukraine.
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If he drops a nuke, I think it will be the 'all gloves off' type of a fight. I don't think he will go there. Russia is not ready for it.
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I agree with you. Using nukes may very well turn the remaining few allies of Russia against it. Nobody wants nukes used in any war on earth. That's why we have the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty. Violate the Treaty and you'll see armies from all over the world on your land sooner than you think.
legendary
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Looks like Putin is preparing to make this war shorter than we would have expected. But the way he is doing it should make us all take a look at our options.


Russia Holds Nuclear Forces Drill As Biden Unveils $700M More In Arms For Ukraine



Russia's nuclear forces have launched fresh drills northeast of Moscow, in the Ivanovo province, according to new Russian defense ministry statements Wednesday.

Reuters cited Interfax news agency to report that "Some 1,000 servicemen are exercising in intense maneuvers using over 100 vehicles including Yars intercontinental ballistic missile launchers," based on the Russian MoD statement.

Some Western media reports are seeing the drill as a response and warning to Washington over the White House approving yet more military aid and weapons to Ukraine, particularly longer range rockets.

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If he drops a nuke, I think it will be the 'all gloves off' type of a fight. I don't think he will go there. Russia is not ready for it.

He will continue his war of attrition, and reach the border of Donbas, losing 100K+ soldiers while doing it. Declare a victory and withdraw from
Ukraine as he will not want to spend his own money to hold it and rebuild all the leveled cities, towns, and infrastructure.

It is a clusterfuck for Russia and he needs to get out of it. Somehow.

Dropping a nuke will complicate things exponentially.
legendary
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Looks like Putin is preparing to make this war shorter than we would have expected. But the way he is doing it should make us all take a look at our options.


Russia Holds Nuclear Forces Drill As Biden Unveils $700M More In Arms For Ukraine



Russia's nuclear forces have launched fresh drills northeast of Moscow, in the Ivanovo province, according to new Russian defense ministry statements Wednesday.

Reuters cited Interfax news agency to report that "Some 1,000 servicemen are exercising in intense maneuvers using over 100 vehicles including Yars intercontinental ballistic missile launchers," based on the Russian MoD statement.

Some Western media reports are seeing the drill as a response and warning to Washington over the White House approving yet more military aid and weapons to Ukraine, particularly longer range rockets.

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On the other hand, Alex Jones analyzes what this really means... Russian nukes which don't have any value beyond Russian talk... or do they? Watch the videos.


Globalist Proxy War Goes Hot as Russian TV Propaganda Threatens to Nuke US



Russian state media threatened that President Vladimir Putin could “destroy the entire east coast of the U.S.” with just two Sarmat “Satan II” nuclear missiles if the West continues to escalate war in Ukraine.

The chilling warning was made Tuesday on Russia’s media program Rossiya 1 by Russian member of Parliament Alexei Zhuravlev, who explained that Russia could launch only four Sarmat missiles to completely destroy the US east and west coasts.

“I will tell you absolutely competently that to destroy the entire the East Coast of the United States, two Sarmat missiles are needed,” Zhuravlev said. “And the same goes for the West Coast. Four missiles, and there will be nothing left.”

“They think the mushroom cloud will be taller than a high rise. That mushroom cloud will be visible from Mexico,” he added.

Russian state media issued a similarly bizarre threat earlier this month, warning that it could launch an underwater 100-megaton nuclear strike on the UK it claimed would produce a massive radioactive tsunami.

These disturbing remarks by Russian media come just a day after Russia test-fired its anti-ship hypersonic Zircon missile, which can travel up to nine times the speed of sound at a range of 620 miles.

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legendary
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Putin knows he is at the end of his political career if he don't do something radical to make Russians believe he is a great man. The  objective he choose is to make Russia great again and to do this the first target was ukraine. He was expecting a swift victory over Ukraine with he becoming a numero uno in russia. But destiny had other plans. Now Russia is facing a face save for itself.
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

in the past we have seen wars last as long as 100 years. Sure, that was a long time ago, however it's a good example because it was more of an economic than an all out war, somewhat simmilar to this one. So while this one hopefully won't last a 100 years, it might last in some capacity longer than anyone expected. Hope I am wrong.
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Long enough to bankrupt the US and Western Europe.



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Putin played a bloody game in-behalf of the west and everyone was blaiming  Putin not the west !
Let's observe what happened during the last months carefully.
The Russian Invaded the border of Ukraine and stuck in first steps ! President Zelenski received Billions of dollars from the West to become a Hiro and more closer to Israel! 
The West confiscated the wealth of all Russian oligarchs living overseas. previous Putin colleagues in the KGB were a serious threat for him to stay in power! 
The Chinese Road and Belt project stuck totally after billions of dollars of expenses they paid to make it happen!
Who's the winner ? 
First place West (USA) , Burned chineses as much as they could !
Second place, Putin knocked down all of the Russian politicians who had power to compete with him! 
In 3rd place Zelenski Acted as good as an actor! and the Oscar of Political act will go to him!
Losers: World nations , in particular  Ukrainians and Russians, paid this game expenses with their life and money and many other things, and were wounded because of everything politicians would like to do except humanity!
Hope very soon to see the end of this bloody game!
legendary
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

Putin has been in power for 22 years and counting, do you honestly think this was wasn't a calculated risk? Putin might be many things but being sensless isn't one of his qualities. it takes much more than just charisma, being a good orator and what have you to rule a country as autocratic as Russia for this long with no one to challenge. War or no War!! in my own opinion, Putin is going no where.

Quite correct. Russia doesn't need any other country. They can produce essentially anything they need to stay alive. And Siberia, being owned by Russia, is a land of untold opportunities for Russians.

Who is going to attempt to steal Siberia from Russia? Only the people who want the world to be driven back into the Dark Ages. Russian Nukes.

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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

Putin has been in power for 22 years and counting, do you honestly think this was wasn't a calculated risk? Putin might be many things but being sensless isn't one of his qualities. it takes much more than just charisma, being a good orator and what have you to rule a country as autocratic as Russia for this long with no one to challenge. War or no War!! in my own opinion, Putin is going no where.
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.

I think eventually he’ll face enough internal pressure to stop this war. It hasn’t gone well for him and his people are suffering. Plus, there are rumors of his health being an issue. I don’t think his successor will want to continue this if Putin was unable to continue leading his country. Who knows when that is, but we’ve got to be getting close.
People in Russia are generally smart enough to understand a simple thing - the only chance for Russia is the complete success of the operation in Ukraine with the achievement of all stated goals. History is written by the winners, not the losers. And the stronger the external pressure from the West, the more loyal the Russians are to the current government. Therefore, I would not count on the growth of internal pressure on Putin.
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.

I think eventually he’ll face enough internal pressure to stop this war. It hasn’t gone well for him and his people are suffering. Plus, there are rumors of his health being an issue. I don’t think his successor will want to continue this if Putin was unable to continue leading his country. Who knows when that is, but we’ve got to be getting close.
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


Putin can continue this war until Russia runs out of war material. Then Putin will use his nukes to ignite WW4... the cold war having been WW3.



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There is a saying in my locality that goes, 'in every nonsense, there is an atom of sense'. I'm bring that up due to the subject title.

A lot of users are likely not to fined a sense in the on going war and why Russia might choose to push it further but there are others especially Russian nations who feels its necessary that it continues. Dont get me wrong, I'm not in any way in support of the on going violence between both nations but I am just saying, both nation feels threatened and so, they fight.

Russia fears a future invasion by the west and so they fight while, Ukraine feels there sovereignty as a nation is being threatened and the destruction of life and property is been done on there land hence, there is a need for the war.

Unfortunately, the war would continue in both nations until both nations feels safe enough.

War is not happening in Russia, yet.  

But you might be right, eventually, it will continue there.
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   I think also it's continue for a long period of time on their war Russian and Ukraine. I think it take 2 years that their war before it's gone until the realize that they don't have a any things,that they are wasting their time and, they are really one who destroy their country and  friendships. They just forget because of angry of their mind and their heart that they cannot seen the lighten if there's no people who put into the center.
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There is a saying in my locality that goes, 'in every nonsense, there is an atom of sense'. I'm bring that up due to the subject title.

A lot of users are likely not to fined a sense in the on going war and why Russia might choose to push it further but there are others especially Russian nations who feels its necessary that it continues. Dont get me wrong, I'm not in any way in support of the on going violence between both nations but I am just saying, both nation feels threatened and so, they fight.

Russia fears a future invasion by the west and so they fight while, Ukraine feels there sovereignty as a nation is being threatened and the destruction of life and property is been done on there land hence, there is a need for the war.

Unfortunately, the war would continue in both nations until both nations feels safe enough.
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It will only be stopped when Russia's economy is crippled and this will affect all it's citizens financial abilities then they will be forced to protest against his government, even tho it won't be an easy one for them because of Putin's cruel nature.
Most countries has withdrawn from it deal with rissia ,it has even affected most top business men from Russia, like the owner of chelsea football club having to sell off the club because of the affect of the war ,while putin is not ready to back down anytime soon even after the sanction on russia by top world power's.
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Take this story with a grain of salt: https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/putins-inner-circle-believe-ukraine-war-is-lost-and-russia-faces-coup-16672422/

Putin's inner circle believes Ukraine war is lost. Putin ‘facing a coup after his closest allies accept they’ve lost the war’.

I would accept the premise given how miserable Russia's attempt at an invasion has gone, and the resilience of Ukraine. But also factoring in the global economy taking a nose dive and Russia's isolation from the global economy, there is not much left. They have not concerned Ukraine, their currency is becoming worthless, and major corporations have pulled out of the country for the foreseeable future. Hope Putin has hired some food testers.

Question remains, who is Russia's next leader? Will the mental fortitude be that of Putin, or perhaps less?


The real question is, who controls the buttons that launch the Russian nukes. Are those people faithful to Putin, or not? If Putin is dead, will they follow his orders to launch? Or not? Will they be able to nuke threaten the new leader to continue Putin's plans? Or not?

It isn't something simple like we like to think of it, as we look on from the outside. Remember, when the Soviet Union fell in 1991, it was the KGB that took over. Putin, as leader of that KGB, isn't so stupid that he will go out without plans in place. And nukes is only one thing he could have already set up.

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Take this story with a grain of salt: https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/putins-inner-circle-believe-ukraine-war-is-lost-and-russia-faces-coup-16672422/

Putin's inner circle believes Ukraine war is lost. Putin ‘facing a coup after his closest allies accept they’ve lost the war’.

I would accept the premise given how miserable Russia's attempt at an invasion has gone, and the resilience of Ukraine. But also factoring in the global economy taking a nose dive and Russia's isolation from the global economy, there is not much left. They have not concerned Ukraine, their currency is becoming worthless, and major corporations have pulled out of the country for the foreseeable future. Hope Putin has hired some food testers.

Question remains, who is Russia's next leader? Will the mental fortitude be that of Putin, or perhaps less?
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

I am sure that he will make this war last a long time until his goal is achieved, namely that part of Ukraine will fall into Russian hands. Or this could be completed at the G20 meeting to be held in Bali, Indonesia. Where Putin and Zelensky will meet and discuss their issues further.
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How long Putin can continue this nonsense war?!


As long as the US continues its sneaky, dirty tactics in Ukraine, which are aimed at conquering Russia for the one-world government.

The UN... a Russian play thing.



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The war and invasion has been on for some time.
I hate the fact that Putin thinks he can just place threat of nuclear weapons, has he got the only weapon's?
It's even unwise of him to say how powerful he's nuclear weapons are deadly, as USA can even build a disarmer and one more dangerous the he's. Imposing war world three,he just have pride despite that he's dieing of he's act! What have the United Nations done to prevent this war ? Are they not meant for such situations like this ? Is it that they only wage inter conflict wars and not this ? They should please intervene.
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
It's been two whole months now, I expect things to worsen after the fall of Mariupol. Odesa is next, and is in a vital location due to its port, conquering it would block Ukraine's access to the sea. Putin didn't capture Ukraine in a few days, like he expected, but he is steadily gaining ground in the region of Donbas, while his military advances are certainly going towards Odesa and Kharkiv, two major Ukrainian cities.
Ukraine does not need access to the sea. Ukraine is receiving its weapons and supplies from Poland, which shares a land border with Ukraine.

It is Russia that needs access to Ukraine via the sea in order to help resupply its troops.

Russia also had proxies already controlling the Dunbas area before the war even started, so "gaining ground" in this area is not much to speak for.
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
It's been two whole months now, I expect things to worsen after the fall of Mariupol. Odesa is next, and is in a vital location due to its port, conquering it would block Ukraine's access to the sea. Putin didn't capture Ukraine in a few days, like he expected, but he is steadily gaining ground in the region of Donbas, while his military advances are certainly going towards Odesa and Kharkiv, two major Ukrainian cities.
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Russian forces on Saturday launched deadly missile strikes on targets in Odesa, hitting a residential neighborhood and inflicting the kind of civilian carnage the Black Sea port city had so far avoided in two months of fighting, Ukrainian officials said. At least six people were killed and another 18 wounded when two cruise missiles struck the residential area in the city’s west, and officials warned the toll would likely climb given the extent of the damage.  Cry
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Russia currently has ~75% of its military capacity committed to Ukraine. Russia maintains its nukes, however, committing that much of its military is risky and will leave it vulnerable to invasion and/or military action from elsewhere.

Those that are fighting do not believe in this war. I don't think many will believe in fighting for their homeland in the event of an invasion if that were to happen.

both sides legitmately accuse each other of being Nazis and both sides legitmately disbelieve the Nazi accusation of the other,

Putin Believes Zelinski's Ukraine is Nazi because it surpresses Russian lingual autonomy, like the original Nazis that seeked to enslave Russia and eastern Europe

Zelinski Believes Putin is a Nazi because he stands up for "national interests" and because he uses violence to split countries in order to change the situation of lingual groups


on the other hand Zelinski disbelieves Putin's accusations of him being a Nazi because he is a Jew,
while Putin disbelieves Zelinski's and the Wests Accusation of Putin being Hitler because he lived his entire life fighting Nazis and raised his entire Country to be opposing Nazis.

thats the paradox

if you research this you will find it to be true

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Anyway, Putin isn't going to step down from his presidency, he won't stop till he gets what he wants, or lose everything in the process. It's surprising that an army like Russia's is having such a hard time against Ukraine, they're supposedly a superpower.
Why do we all put the whole blame on Putin. We must Firstly understand why Putin is going into war against their neighbor Ukraine. Ukraine are building strong relationship with US, they also wants to be part of NATO. Which Russia consider to be a dangerous step, because they don't trust the US. Putin thinks he is probably protecting his country. Although, Ukraine is an independent country, and they have the right to join NATO.  Putin just want the US to stay far from Ukraine, and the war won't end until his had achieved that.



If Putin ends the war will end in about 2 more days. Putin is 69 so each day he has about a 1 in 4000 chance of dying.

So the war will last for at least 60 days (a guess) so a 60 in 4000 chance is about 1 in 66 chance to war ends simply because he died.

Not because he is assassinated but because he is ham and humans die and at the age of 69 the math is as above.

But if he was to stay alive longer say 2 or more  years Russia will eventually win the war and the world will be in two camps west vs east same as it ever was. Just like it was when I was a kid and Khurschev said he would bury USA

Meanwhile lots of oil prices at top dollar or ruble.
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Putin and the Chinese together couldn't beat the US. But they have enough stuff that the US really wouldn't win in an all-out war. Nobody wants war. What is going on is attempts to get the biggest share of the economy without a real war.

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putin simply things ukranians are being run by nazis and fasists and he has to help the russians there,

this didn't developed after putin got drunk in a bar in moscow, no putin was talking with western leaders about the surpression of russian autonomy in eastern ukraine over years.

russians will develop a very strong distrust between themselves and eastern europeans as they threat them like second class citizens in lands where they live since 1000 years.

its in principle the same conflict like the financial discrimination of black americans.
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Russia currently has ~75% of its military capacity committed to Ukraine. Russia maintains its nukes, however, committing that much of its military is risky and will leave it vulnerable to invasion and/or military action from elsewhere.

Those that are fighting do not believe in this war. I don't think many will believe in fighting for their homeland in the event of an invasion if that were to happen.
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

He can easily continue for another 1-5 years. He will completely destroy the Russian army and economy, but I think it could be physically
possible to continue for while.
Provided he will sell it as an existential threat to Russia so that Russians will go along with the 18-60 military draft.

They have lost about 15,000 soldiers and probably 60,000 wounded in the first month.

But, I think they will progress a bit more carefully, so I expect the losses will be smaller, maybe 7,500 dead/month, and 30,000 wounded/month.

They lost about 600 tanks/month, so assuming they will continue losing 300/month for the remainder of the campaign, they can easily
continue for a few more years tankwise. Fighter jets might be an issue as they have lost over 100/month.

I think their critical resource is warm bodies.
So the success or failure of Putin's adventure will depend on how fast Ukrainians can kill Russians.

86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

Economically, I think he can bypass sanctions, with third-party countries, Kazakhstan, India, Afghanistan, African countries, and China.
Sanctions will lower his revenues, but for critical components, I think he will find suppliers that
will be willing to supply him with whatever he needs for the right price ($$$).

So, the bottom line is that his revenue will decrease, his expenses will increase, and his manpower will decrease long-term.

As for ordinary Russians, well, they will go back to the Soviet times. The older generation will be able to cope with it with no problem.
The younger generation will be shocked but will keep their mouth shut, and will be afraid to speak out.

Their standard of living will be that of Indians, Africans, or Chinese.


As far as his reign is concerned, I'm feeling he's nearing his end, but if it comes to the war, it will only lie on the ability of the Ukrainians and their ability to deplete the army of the Russians.
 Russia has the resources to continue this war if care is not taken to the next ten years or more but notwithstanding, their economy will be affected and as it is, over $600billion worth of shares has been seized by the US govt and what with sanctions being placed on them.
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Anyway, Putin isn't going to step down from his presidency, he won't stop till he gets what he wants, or lose everything in the process. It's surprising that an army like Russia's is having such a hard time against Ukraine, they're supposedly a superpower.
Why do we all put the whole blame on Putin. We must Firstly understand why Putin is going into war against their neighbor Ukraine. Ukraine are building strong relationship with US, they also wants to be part of NATO. Which Russia consider to be a dangerous step, because they don't trust the US. Putin thinks he is probably protecting his country. Although, Ukraine is an independent country, and they have the right to join NATO.  Putin just want the US to stay far from Ukraine, and the war won't end until his had achieved that.
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this war is not just russia vs. west,

its much deeper its the same as syria vs. the west lybia vs. the west

in its core its about western officials creating hateful mobs in capital cities and using them to storm parliaments to change the regime instead of talking with the current regime

this prevents democracy in many parts of the world as those states cannot for financial reasons allow democracy
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The fight in the defence of one's nation cannot be seen as a nonsense war. It might seem so to you for Putin to have openly thrown the first punch but, its most likely that the first punch had been thrown long before Russia ever attacked Ukraine. Only a madman will attack a nation or animal without provocation and I don't consider Putin one. NATO's invite and Ukraine's willingness to make an alians with them is the provocation that hung unseen by most persons because they've refused to see it.
Unfortunately, Putin and the Ukrainians are ready to push this war as far as it could get but, I can only hope it ends soon and peace again be restored between both countries. War is not good for anyone and I am largely not in support of this one.
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That's too long. Russia would run out of juice long before that. You have to remember that the economy is one thing, but there's also fighting spirit, which Russians always had when defending, but rarely when attacking. Many people in Russia think it's not their war and as time goes by and life gets harder there's going to be more and more of them, until finally all who wanted to fight will be dead and the rest will rather migrate than die fighting abroad for nothing.

Or the tanking economy could push more people to sign up to fight because there is nothing else to do and it's the fault of the Ukrainians...

There is no logic to things happening in Russia now. People get arrested for holding flowers. State media is bleating incessantly about bird flu biolabs of the big bad West. A sizeable part of the population genuinely believes that they are defending. 140 million people, there could be enough idiots to feed this war for a long time.

Although the looting "armed forces" don't display much fighting spirit, that's true.
Your problem is that although you understand the Russian language, you are extremely far from understanding the Russian mentality. The Russians need an external enemy, preferably a stronger one. Ukraine? "It's petty, Hobotov." But let's bring here the entire Western world united in a single anti-Russian impulse - this is already something to awaken Russia from its eternal procrastination and laziness, you can already work with this. And the louder the cry of anti-Russian rhetoric, the stronger and more effective Russia becomes. People in Russia do not believe in the lifting of sanctions if the aggression in Ukraine stops, so they say "okay, let there be sanctions, we will live with this." They do not take to the streets to protest like the inhabitants of Europe and do not try to overthrow Putin - on the contrary, his support is growing. Putin gave the people in Russia what was expected of him for a long time - he declared Russia's right to its own sovereignty in order to stop being a raw materials appendage and a gas station of the West. For the sanctions against the oligarchs in Europe, a special thank you from the Russians, they are not very loved here, ordinary people believe that the oligarchs have been robbing the country for decades and exporting the loot to the West. Well, now all the huge natural wealth of Russia belongs to Russia itself. Why would the Russian people berate Putin here? In Russia, Putin is now a folk hero, the "collector of Russian lands".

He can easily continue for another 1-5 years.
Lukashenko said that by the end of this year the world will forget about Ukraine. I'm not sure what exactly he meant, whether there will be a more serious problem in the world that will make Ukraine forget (as the operation in Ukraine almost made the whole world forget about covid-19), or just the problem in Ukraine will be resolved and cease to be such sharp and exciting the whole world, as now.

Let me tell you something else, it seems that in July the anniversary economic forum will be held in St. Petersburg, Russia.
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Everyone has the right to draw their own conclusions.
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That's too long. Russia would run out of juice long before that. You have to remember that the economy is one thing, but there's also fighting spirit, which Russians always had when defending, but rarely when attacking. Many people in Russia think it's not their war and as time goes by and life gets harder there's going to be more and more of them, until finally all who wanted to fight will be dead and the rest will rather migrate than die fighting abroad for nothing.

Or the tanking economy could push more people to sign up to fight because there is nothing else to do and it's the fault of the Ukrainians...

There is no logic to things happening in Russia now. People get arrested for holding flowers. State media is bleating incessantly about bird flu biolabs of the big bad West. A sizeable part of the population genuinely believes that they are defending. 140 million people, there could be enough idiots to feed this war for a long time.

Although the looting "armed forces" don't display much fighting spirit, that's true.
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Better be careful. Putin's nonsense is setting him up to take over the world for a time. It's starting with the collapse of the USD.

Ruble on the gold standard might = $10,000 Gold & $370 Silver, Plus Some Really Shocking Numbers! - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/323291-2022-04-02-10-000-gold-370-silver-plus-some-really-shocking-numbers.htm

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NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want.

Please explain how they'd do it.

Russia and Belarus stated that marching into Ukraine would be a declaration of war. It would be a much easier decision if there were no nuclear weapons because Russia cannot match NATO in conventional warfare, but nobody wants those idiots to start using bio weapons and nukes and render whole Europe uninhabitable.

He can easily continue for another 1-5 years. He will completely destroy the Russian army and economy, but I think it could be physically
possible to continue for while.

That's too long. Russia would run out of juice long before that. You have to remember that the economy is one thing, but there's also fighting spirit, which Russians always had when defending, but rarely when attacking. Many people in Russia think it's not their war and as time goes by and life gets harder there's going to be more and more of them, until finally all who wanted to fight will be dead and the rest will rather migrate than die fighting abroad for nothing.
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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

They support it because it is their fight for survival.

They may be exhausted by fighting and lose strength but if they do not fight then NATO will destroy them in the future.

NATO and the Western media are playing a major role in fueling this war. NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want. The United Nations wants to gradually cripple Russia by creating economic pressure. Russia alone is not responsible for this war

This is straight up Russian propaganda.
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both sides have their shortcomings, but seems that no one wants to give up their respective causes. unless, one of them will lower down their head, this can indeed go for months and months. and the most affected here are their respective people. don't know to what extent can putin sacrifice the future of his people. but if his people will unite to overthrow him, they possibly can.

People will never be able to overthrow him, they are too much afraid of him, they are afraid to even say the word war, because for this they can be arrested. Now, when there is a rotation of russian troops and the cities of the Kiev region are being liberated, it is clear what atrocities russia arranges. On the streets there are dead civilians with their hands tied and shot in the back of the head, this is genocide. And this can go on for a very long time, russia has great resources.
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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

They support it because it is their fight for survival.

They may be exhausted by fighting and lose strength but if they do not fight then NATO will destroy them in the future.

NATO and the Western media are playing a major role in fueling this war. NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want. The United Nations wants to gradually cripple Russia by creating economic pressure. Russia alone is not responsible for this war

If NATO is what endangers Russia, then go fight NATO or the US.

Why are you wasting your resources in Ukraine? Do you think you will be in a better position after you exhaust yourself in Ukraine?
What kind of logic is that? Your losses in Ukraine are $200-300M/day, 200-300 men/day.

"Po plan-oo" I guess, lol.



I think its fair to say NATO had just cause to have so many bases on the border with
Russia. If Russias leader can do so much damage to a non NATO country imagine
what would happen without those NATO bases.

How long will this Ukraine invasion last? IMO as long as Ukraine gets military support
it can resist so this coupled with the economic sanctions which wont be felt in Russia
fully for a number of weeks yet could determine how long it lasts, it could be months.
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Until he realize that what he did is enough because no one is going to fight against Russia for invading the Ukraine because every country only deals with sanctions against them but it didn't made the Russia to pull back and surprisingly he also made a tactical move that unfriendly countries has to pay in Rubles to buy oil from them so Russian economy will fall only if their oil exports stops but in reality China and India is enjoying the benefits now.
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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

While I don't doubt you, I'd like to see the source for this number, it looks exceedingly high. During the first days of the invasion, Putin's actions were discouraged and sparked a few protests, which were quickly dealt with force.

Anyway, Putin isn't going to step down from his presidency, he won't stop till he gets what he wants, or lose everything in the process. It's surprising that an army like Russia's is having such a hard time against Ukraine, they're supposedly a superpower.
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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

They support it because it is their fight for survival.

They may be exhausted by fighting and lose strength but if they do not fight then NATO will destroy them in the future.

NATO and the Western media are playing a major role in fueling this war. NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want. The United Nations wants to gradually cripple Russia by creating economic pressure. Russia alone is not responsible for this war

If NATO is what endangers Russia, then go fight NATO or the US.

Why are you wasting your resources in Ukraine? Do you think you will be in a better position after you exhaust yourself in Ukraine?
What kind of logic is that? Your losses in Ukraine are $200-300M/day, 200-300 men/day.

"Po plan-oo" I guess, lol.

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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

They support it because it is their fight for survival.

They may be exhausted by fighting and lose strength but if they do not fight then NATO will destroy them in the future.

NATO and the Western media are playing a major role in fueling this war. NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want. The United Nations wants to gradually cripple Russia by creating economic pressure. Russia alone is not responsible for this war

both sides have their shortcomings, but seems that no one wants to give up their respective causes. unless, one of them will lower down their head, this can indeed go for months and months. and the most affected here are their respective people. don't know to what extent can putin sacrifice the future of his people. but if his people will unite to overthrow him, they possibly can.
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86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

They support it because it is their fight for survival.

They may be exhausted by fighting and lose strength but if they do not fight then NATO will destroy them in the future.

NATO and the Western media are playing a major role in fueling this war. NATO and the United Nations can stop this war if they want but they do not want. The United Nations wants to gradually cripple Russia by creating economic pressure. Russia alone is not responsible for this war
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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?

He can easily continue for another 1-5 years. He will completely destroy the Russian army and economy, but I think it could be physically
possible to continue for while.
Provided he will sell it as an existential threat to Russia so that Russians will go along with the 18-60 military draft.

They have lost about 15,000 soldiers and probably 60,000 wounded in the first month.

But, I think they will progress a bit more carefully, so I expect the losses will be smaller, maybe 7,500 dead/month, and 30,000 wounded/month.

They lost about 600 tanks/month, so assuming they will continue losing 300/month for the remainder of the campaign, they can easily
continue for a few more years tankwise. Fighter jets might be an issue as they have lost over 100/month.

I think their critical resource is warm bodies.
So the success or failure of Putin's adventure will depend on how fast Ukrainians can kill Russians.

86% of the Russian public supports Putin's war, so he will not have any political issues for a while, IMHO.

Economically, I think he can bypass sanctions, with third-party countries, Kazakhstan, India, Afghanistan, African countries, and China.
Sanctions will lower his revenues, but for critical components, I think he will find suppliers that
will be willing to supply him with whatever he needs for the right price ($$$).

So, the bottom line is that his revenue will decrease, his expenses will increase, and his manpower will decrease long-term.

As for ordinary Russians, well, they will go back to the Soviet times. The older generation will be able to cope with it with no problem.
The younger generation will be shocked but will keep their mouth shut, and will be afraid to speak out.

Their standard of living will be that of Indians, Africans, or Chinese.

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War is the last chance for a politician to stay in power, how bad was the Russian economy that caused Putin political suiside? How long is it going to take to step down from power or do Russians underestand he is just a paper tiger?! I believe in less than three months Putin's kingdom is over , what do  you think?
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