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Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture?
September 19, 2012, 11:52:39 AM #154
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Then why didn't you come forward with all this information before? It took a long time and alot of snopping from the forum members for it to come out. Thats not exactly being upfront.
I will tell you why we didn't "come forward with all this information before" when you can tell me why you think it's relevant? Please explain how the past affects the products you've already received (because you have received products right? I mean, you're not here just complaining and you aren't even a customer, correct?) and how it will affect the products in the future. If you can explain that, then I will explain why the information wasn't disclosed before. Otherwise, it has absolutely no bearing on whether or not BFL has produced and shipped products in the past or in the future, does it?
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So, as a consumer, and a customer of BFL I would like to know:
1. Are you really a C Corporation?
2. If you are a C Corp, which state do you file in?
3. Are you annual reports public, like most C Corps?
With these questions, I can find out pretty much all I need to know as a consumer about your company using the public resources. This is what good and valid companies do.
Our corporation, as has been said countless times before, is currently registered in Wyoming. All the information is there, has been there, and will likely continue to be there.
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EDIT: Also, feel free to go back and view my past posts. I have usually defended BFL on all fronts, but in light of all this new information coming out, I have really re-thought my opinions. When you were made COO of BFL, you should represent the company. Going on tyraids is not befitting of a million dollar revenue generating company. Not only does it look bad on you, it looks horrible on the company for choosing you as their COO.
So in light of this "new information coming out" how does it make your BFL Singles or Minirigs fail to perform? I'm just curious. I assume you mean tirade, not "tyraid" - but what tirade are you referring to? I don't see any tirades, and I'm certainly not speaking as BFL at the moment.
@davidspitzer
You are exactly right. It matters what we are doing now and in the future. We have delivered in the past and we will deliver in the future. I have been open and up front with delivery time and dates as I know them currently. We are still on target for Late October, early November. Given the production times, I would venture to say it will be closer to the latter on actual shipping dates for the units, since we want to ship them out en mass as opposed to ones and twos. Since this is a new product, with all new components, we are having to change our production facilities to accommodate it. Contrary to Franky's fabrications, we do not, have not and are not rebranding anyone elses boards and selling them. It's all created by us, for us specifically. It's interesting he makes those accusations but is completely unable to supply the original source of these supposedly rebranded boards. I wonder why that is?
Anyway, we haven't run into any major show stoppers as of yet, so things are good.
September 19, 2012, 11:52:39 AM #154
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Then why didn't you come forward with all this information before? It took a long time and alot of snopping from the forum members for it to come out. Thats not exactly being upfront.
I will tell you why we didn't "come forward with all this information before" when you can tell me why you think it's relevant? Please explain how the past affects the products you've already received (because you have received products right? I mean, you're not here just complaining and you aren't even a customer, correct?) and how it will affect the products in the future. If you can explain that, then I will explain why the information wasn't disclosed before. Otherwise, it has absolutely no bearing on whether or not BFL has produced and shipped products in the past or in the future, does it?
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So, as a consumer, and a customer of BFL I would like to know:
1. Are you really a C Corporation?
2. If you are a C Corp, which state do you file in?
3. Are you annual reports public, like most C Corps?
With these questions, I can find out pretty much all I need to know as a consumer about your company using the public resources. This is what good and valid companies do.
Our corporation, as has been said countless times before, is currently registered in Wyoming. All the information is there, has been there, and will likely continue to be there.
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EDIT: Also, feel free to go back and view my past posts. I have usually defended BFL on all fronts, but in light of all this new information coming out, I have really re-thought my opinions. When you were made COO of BFL, you should represent the company. Going on tyraids is not befitting of a million dollar revenue generating company. Not only does it look bad on you, it looks horrible on the company for choosing you as their COO.
So in light of this "new information coming out" how does it make your BFL Singles or Minirigs fail to perform? I'm just curious. I assume you mean tirade, not "tyraid" - but what tirade are you referring to? I don't see any tirades, and I'm certainly not speaking as BFL at the moment.
@davidspitzer
You are exactly right. It matters what we are doing now and in the future. We have delivered in the past and we will deliver in the future. I have been open and up front with delivery time and dates as I know them currently. We are still on target for Late October, early November. Given the production times, I would venture to say it will be closer to the latter on actual shipping dates for the units, since we want to ship them out en mass as opposed to ones and twos. Since this is a new product, with all new components, we are having to change our production facilities to accommodate it. Contrary to Franky's fabrications, we do not, have not and are not rebranding anyone elses boards and selling them. It's all created by us, for us specifically. It's interesting he makes those accusations but is completely unable to supply the original source of these supposedly rebranded boards. I wonder why that is?
Anyway, we haven't run into any major show stoppers as of yet, so things are good.
Note the majority of the next to last paragraph.
Also note that according to BFL, there was nothing but major show stoppers causing the massive delay.
Shortly after this post, BFL incorporated in Kansas, then Missouri.