Topic: How many S3 are you planning to buy? (Read 3891 times)

Quote from: cozk on June 29, 2014, 12:53:27 PM

I agree to people saying ~1 BTC is a fair price. If much more expensive I won't buy any.

I agree that over .5 BTC its not worth it.

At 1 BTC and 20% diff increase you never ROI.

After around 120 days you start losing money on electricity and at this moment you lost a grand total of 0.4452 BTC (not even close to ROI...)

Why is everyone spitting that 1 BTC price ? Please get your head out of your ass.

All this if you had the S3 TODAY.

In US dollars they could sell these for 99 bucks a piece and make a huge profit.

So fucking what ? The cost is not even in play here.

You really don't understand the point? Cute :-)

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Quote from: cozk on June 29, 2014, 12:53:27 PM

Quote from: Pjones on June 29, 2014, 01:35:29 PM

I agree to people saying ~1 BTC is a fair price. If much more expensive I won't buy any.

I agree that over .5 BTC its not worth it.

At 1 BTC and 20% diff increase you never ROI.

After around 120 days you start losing money on electricity and at this moment you lost a grand total of 0.4452 BTC (not even close to ROI...)

Why is everyone spitting that 1 BTC price ? Please get your head out of your ass.

All this if you had the S3 TODAY.

In US dollars they could sell these for 99 bucks a piece and make a huge profit.

So fucking what ? The cost is not even in play here.

armin22

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$140 without shipping? ------> 0.23BTC

I'd say under 0.6BTC is expected.

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The PCBs look like they are 1.6mm, about 50 sq inches, silk screened, 4 layers. Even at 100k units, i can't imagine these are less than $20 each for the bare pcb. The controller is a TL-link device, at 100k units, I can't imagine these are less than $15 each. You are already at $55, without any components. 32x28nm chips, assuming they aren't much larger than 12mm sq, 25 layers, and 100k units, tested and packaged, and assuming yields of greater than 98%, maybe $2 each, not factoring in NRE, but including masks and wafers. $64 in chips, now you are over $99. Add in the power regulators, passive components, etc, there is at least - few more bucks there. $5 for the fan, and $5 for each heat sink, so there is $15 there. The screws and mount plates, plastic stand offs, SMA antenna mount, and the thermal paste, maybe another $1. Now you have to pay an assembly house to build the boards, test and package. For something as large as this, I can't imagine it is less than $5 per board, not including the logistics services and shipping.

How did you arrive at less than $99?

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In US dollars they could sell these for 99 bucks a piece and make a huge profit.

Their cost is higher than $99, so I don't see how they can make a huge profit selling at that price point.

I cant imagine how their cost would be north of that. There is nothing to these boxes. a frame, 2 PCBs, a couple fans, a plastic shroud. A little PCB control unit, and assorted components. If they are building 1... sure. But when you order a run of 100,000 units its dirt cheap.

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Quote from: cozk on June 29, 2014, 12:53:27 PM

In US dollars they could sell these for 99 bucks a piece and make a huge profit.

Their cost is higher than $99, so I don't see how they can make a huge profit selling at that price point.

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I agree to people saying ~1 BTC is a fair price. If much more expensive I won't buy any.

I agree that over .5 BTC its not worth it.

At 1 BTC and 20% diff increase you never ROI.

After around 120 days you start losing money on electricity and at this moment you lost a grand total of 0.4452 BTC (not even close to ROI...)

Why is everyone spitting that 1 BTC price ? Please get your head out of your ass.

All this if you had the S3 TODAY.

In US dollars they could sell these for 99 bucks a piece and make a huge profit.

cozk

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Quote from: Blazed on June 28, 2014, 12:37:14 AM

I agree to people saying ~1 BTC is a fair price. If much more expensive I won't buy any.

I agree that over .5 BTC its not worth it.

At 1 BTC and 20% diff increase you never ROI.

After around 120 days you start losing money on electricity and at this moment you lost a grand total of 0.4452 BTC (not even close to ROI...)

Why is everyone spitting that 1 BTC price ? Please get your head out of your ass.

All this if you had the S3 TODAY.

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I agree to people saying ~1 BTC is a fair price. If much more expensive I won't buy any.

tuaris

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Only if it's under $300 (0.5 BTC), anything higher is over priced and only an idiot would buy that.

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I'll be buying as many as I can!

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NONE, i'll be eating up the cheap s1's

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I bet Bitmain will ask a MOQ of two S3 to save on shipping costs.

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Quote from: contactlight on June 27, 2014, 09:47:41 PM

Quote from: contactlight on June 27, 2014, 09:47:41 PM

Only buying if they have a decent ROI...if not why bother?

Honestly, I think it will be. I don't think they'll try to sell a device that will _obviously_ fail a ROI.

I agree and if it makes a decent ROI I will be buying 3-4 of them.

If its decent ROI the manufacturer will not sell them

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Only buying if they have a decent ROI...if not why bother?

Honestly, I think it will be. I don't think they'll try to sell a device that will _obviously_ fail a ROI.

I agree and if it makes a decent ROI I will be buying 3-4 of them.

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Only buying if they have a decent ROI...if not why bother?

long term

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