How Many would like Wifi for KncMiners?

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 31, 2013, 02:55:37 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 31, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Johny, this may help;

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20068274-285/how-to-get-your-ethernet-only-gadgets-on-your-home-network/

Thanks that's not a problem, I know how I can do it, I'm just saying it would of been a thousand times easier, if it was turn on miner, connect to wifi, instead of routers and bridges. Especially since having on board wifi costs almost nothing compared to the whole miners cost.

From a common sense standpoint, this will eventually turn into a price point competition, for KnC, I'd keep things as lean and functional as poss...

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 31, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Johny, this may help;

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20068274-285/how-to-get-your-ethernet-only-gadgets-on-your-home-network/

Thanks that's not a problem, I know how I can do it, I'm just saying it would of been a thousand times easier, if it was turn on miner, connect to wifi, instead of routers and bridges. Especially since having on board wifi costs almost nothing compared to the whole miners cost.

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Johny, this may help;

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20068274-285/how-to-get-your-ethernet-only-gadgets-on-your-home-network/

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 30, 2013, 02:54:42 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on July 30, 2013, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

so you're going to take your KnCMiner for a walk around the house? Grin

You clearly missed the whole point, KNCMINER as in a single miner, I plan on having multiple KNCMiners, which will require the power to be spread out across different circuits, which according to the multiples of dumbasses to stay wired, which would require running ethernet wires room to room, like a complete moron.

To avoid the power problem, I wired up a 20A 240v circuit. You gain about 5% efficiency on power supplies and the benefit of running half the amps, so you can run standard 12 gauge wire and pull a few thousand watts. Just make sure that you clearly label the circuit as 240v and check your power supplies. I have a switch and 3 Avalons on my 240v circuit.

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Quote from: infested999 on July 30, 2013, 03:30:37 PM

These a production machines not like MyLittlePonys to keep around your house to show off.

good point....wait actually it's not, horrible point, i hope you will keep yours in an underground bomb proof vault, along with 'mylittleponys" whatever those are? I guess little toy ponies for 10 year old girls?

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These a production machines not like MyLittlePonys to keep around your house to show off.

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 30, 2013, 02:54:42 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on July 30, 2013, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

so you're going to take your KnCMiner for a walk around the house? Grin

You clearly missed the whole point, KNCMINER as in a single miner, I plan on having multiple KNCMiners, which will require the power to be spread out across different circuits, which according to the multiples of dumbasses to stay wired, which would require running ethernet wires room to room, like a complete moron.

I was just kidding, I understand your point

Nonetheless, should KnCMiner decide to not add WiFi to their boxes, there are a couple of options to work around this problem (eg. Ethernet - WiFi dongles as mentioned by BkkCoins)

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Quote from: BkkCoins on July 29, 2013, 10:46:03 PM

Just buy 1 or more TL-WR703N off ebay for $22. That's almost the same as a wifi dongle price wise, but instead you get a tiny router that gives you an Ethernet port to connect to your KNC and act as Wifi client, and a usb port that potnetially could run other miners. With a switch you can have many.

Adding Wifi to a device just raises the cost for all those that don't want it, and as far as chips go wifi is fairly costly, probably more than a microcontroller.

I've got a few of these and they're very useful for many things, like being a repeater or print server etc. You need to load openwrt on it so you have an English interface. Just a couple clicks to do.

Yeah those look neat, will def. purchase some, don't think I will require more than 2 ports as plan on plugging in no more than 2 into a circuit. Also, when people are buying a 2-8K machine I don't think most will care that the cost is $10-30 more due to built in wifi. I'd rather have the wifi than having to buy a router, and ethernet cables, it would be almost the same cost as them building something in.

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Quote from: HeRetiK on July 30, 2013, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

so you're going to take your KnCMiner for a walk around the house? Grin

You clearly missed the whole point, KNCMINER as in a single miner, I plan on having multiple KNCMiners, which will require the power to be spread out across different circuits, which according to the multiples of dumbasses to stay wired, which would require running ethernet wires room to room, like a complete moron.

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Quote from: ultrix on July 30, 2013, 02:48:31 AM

Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

Quote from: ultrix on July 29, 2013, 03:25:33 PM

Wifi is for poor people who demand poor quality products. Kind of the k-mart of networking.

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

Maybe they can make tablets with ethernet ports so we can plug into them, and bring back the "High Quality"

No, just have smaller systems around the house, which has 4 gige ports per room, to connect to real hardware in a computer room via X tunneling. Please learn to troll beyond a 3rd grade level.

what 4 ports what? what are you saying?

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

Quote from: ultrix on July 29, 2013, 03:25:33 PM

Wifi is for poor people who demand poor quality products. Kind of the k-mart of networking.

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

Maybe they can make tablets with ethernet ports so we can plug into them, and bring back the "High Quality"

No, just have smaller systems around the house, which has 4 gige ports per room, to connect to real hardware in a computer room via X tunneling. Please learn to troll beyond a 3rd grade level.

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 09:22:10 PM

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

so you're going to take your KnCMiner for a walk around the house? Grin

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Just buy 1 or more TL-WR703N off ebay for $22. That's almost the same as a wifi dongle price wise, but instead you get a tiny router that gives you an Ethernet port to connect to your KNC and act as Wifi client, and a usb port that potnetially could run other miners. With a switch you can have many.

Adding Wifi to a device just raises the cost for all those that don't want it, and as far as chips go wifi is fairly costly, probably more than a microcontroller.

I've got a few of these and they're very useful for many things, like being a repeater or print server etc. You need to load openwrt on it so you have an English interface. Just a couple clicks to do.

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Quote from: ultrix on July 29, 2013, 03:25:33 PM

Wifi is for poor people who demand poor quality products. Kind of the k-mart of networking.

lol, yes because i forgot we all love having wires everywhere, they are so nice. fucking retard. I hope you plug your laptop in and have a 200 foot ethernet cable to walk around the house with. Ohh but yet again, you probably just have one stationary desktop to be confined too, since trolls need confinement.

Maybe they can make tablets with ethernet ports so we can plug into them, and bring back the "High Quality"

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Wifi is for poor people who demand poor quality products. Kind of the k-mart of networking.

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 29, 2013, 11:46:14 AM

Quote from: Subw on July 29, 2013, 10:46:22 AM

WiFi is not reliable technology and could not be used where 100% uptime is desired

Used my wifi for 2 months 24hrs a day with 100% uptime.

Doesn't prove anything.

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Quote from: Subw on July 29, 2013, 10:46:22 AM

WiFi is not reliable technology and could not be used where 100% uptime is desired

Used my wifi for 2 months 24hrs a day with 100% uptime.

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Quote from: HeRetiK on July 29, 2013, 10:09:31 AM

Neutral. WiFi is a nice to have, but I don't really deem it necessary.

+1 I think the same.
It´s usefull, but wire is wire.

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WiFi is not reliable technology and could not be used where 100% uptime is desired

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Neutral. WiFi is a nice to have, but I don't really deem it necessary.

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I think KNCminer machines were designed with the intent they are housed in datacenters even though a lot of early buyers probably will mine from their residents. WiFi could be a security issue in datacenters and probably doesn't make sense in that environment.

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Quote from: Xialla on July 29, 2013, 02:05:48 AM

yep true, otherwise, you should use some multi functional AP if there will be only ethernet port. I personally use this one (http://www.ovislink.com/newovislink/products/wireless/wl-5460ap/wl-5460ap.asp) for similar scenario without any issues.)

3 ethernet ports? like enterprise server maybe, one for corporate network, one for backup and last one for RSA card.))

yeah you would have to buy a bridge, all i know is that it's pretty stupid to not have wifi, even if you kept everything in the same room, the wires will make such a mess. I've run my miners for 2 months straight over wifi and zero problems.

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yep true, otherwise, you should use some multi functional AP if there will be only ethernet port. I personally use this one (http://www.ovislink.com/newovislink/products/wireless/wl-5460ap/wl-5460ap.asp) for similar scenario without any issues.)

3 ethernet ports? like enterprise server maybe, one for corporate network, one for backup and last one for RSA card.))

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Guys,

I found out a few days ago when I asked KnC, about a if the miners will support wifi, and was told no that they only have 3 ethernet ports. If anyone plans on having multiple miners dealing with being plugged in is going to be a pain. Especially if you are moving your miners to different rooms to not trip circuit breakers.

Also, USB ports would be useful for communicating with the device, I'm sure alot of community members will come up with tweaks and neat things, where a Ethernet port can't do.

Secondly, You can always replace a wifi adapter if it fails with a USB port.

Anyway please vote, so we can have Knc take a look at it, and hopefully implement this feature, if it doesn't delay anything.

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