HOW TO CHANGE DIFFUCULTY OF ANT MINER S5

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 04, 2015, 02:20:54 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on September 03, 2015, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 03, 2015, 09:19:40 AM

Would you pls send me the link to the thread?

Sure i dug it up for you. This show the difference based on actual payouts over X time. You'll see how significant antpool's fee. And on tap of that if you mine for antpool you support centralization of the hashrate.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
http://www.poolpayouts.com/

Your concern about centralization is a true and serious one, and a threath that everybody must be aware of.

I have analysed the results.If the pool is big, their performance is more stable.On the otherhand if the pool is small it can perform better or worse compared to others, on the long term their income will be nearly the same.

You are right about extra payments.I change my second pool to Kano.

Very nice

Yes Kano takes 0.9% so its lower than "0%" minus 100% tx fee. Also Kano's pool is highly optimised code with a very low orphan count. So if we could get the hashrate there back up, we could have more "stable" return. But regardless, its been doing very awesome since i joined. After the 666.666666% block anyways

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on September 03, 2015, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 03, 2015, 09:19:40 AM

Would you pls send me the link to the thread?

Sure i dug it up for you. This show the difference based on actual payouts over X time. You'll see how significant antpool's fee. And on tap of that if you mine for antpool you support centralization of the hashrate.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
http://www.poolpayouts.com/

Your concern about centralization is a true and serious one, and a threath that everybody must be aware of.

I have analysed the results.If the pool is big, their performance is more stable.On the otherhand if the pool is small it can perform better or worse compared to others, on the long term their income will be nearly the same.

You are right about extra payments.I change my second pool to Kano.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on September 03, 2015, 10:29:56 PM

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 03, 2015, 09:19:40 AM

Would you pls send me the link to the thread?

Sure i dug it up for you. This show the difference based on actual payouts over X time. You'll see how significant antpool's fee. And on tap of that if you mine for antpool you support centralization of the hashrate.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
http://www.poolpayouts.com/

Looking at the data I am confused by your conclusion. To me it looks like Antpool is the best, closely followed by Nicehash and the F2pool lags a bit, Kano is not comparable as it's a different payment scheme / much smaller pool.

Rich

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 03, 2015, 09:19:40 AM

Would you pls send me the link to the thread?

Sure i dug it up for you. This show the difference based on actual payouts over X time. You'll see how significant antpool's fee. And on tap of that if you mine for antpool you support centralization of the hashrate.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-pools-payout-rates-experiment-real-miners-tablegraph-results-1059040
http://www.poolpayouts.com/

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Would you pls send me the link to the thread?

VirosaGITS

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on September 01, 2015, 02:32:06 PM

I am familiar with electronics but definitely a newby about pools.However, nalysing the link below I think antpool performs and distrubutes higher.If you can share your earnings in a defined period, lets say past week and the week ahead we can compare results or we can follow a procedure you recommend.I am not defending antpool and ready to learn more and earn more.Every help and recommendations about pool selection is accepted.Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.

There's a thread that show antpool pay less, for most likely the reason i said. Antpool does NOT payout tx reward. It's in the pool section, let me know if you can't find it. You're free to use antpool but you will have slightly lower payouts overall and you are helping china centralizing BTC hashrate.

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I am familiar with electronics but definitely a newby about pools.However, nalysing the link below I think antpool performs and distrubutes higher.If you can share your earnings in a defined period, lets say past week and the week ahead we can compare results or we can follow a procedure you recommend.I am not defending antpool and ready to learn more and earn more.Every help and recommendations about pool selection is accepted.Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 17, 2015, 02:59:20 PM

I have overcome my problem by changing the port settings.As far as I know Bitmain pools are giving the highest (reward).My third pool is Slush's pool.It is not convenient to talk about pool profitability under this topic, but I would very much appreciate if there is a more profitable pool.

Like i said, Antminer pool has lower payouts because they keep all Tx fees. Which mean a pool that take a small % will have better payouts. Its okay to check the %fee but you need to check what they do with Tx Fees which Bitmain cleverly keep and say they take 0% of the hashrate.

For instance its possible for a block to have 1 btc of tx fee in it, if they keep it that mean they kept something like 4%. So no they don't have the highest reward at all. Tx fee could be easily 2%, i'm not sure of the average however.

I recommended to try Kano and judge for yourself. What is your second pool?

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I have overcome my problem by changing the port settings.As far as I know Bitmain pools are giving the highest (reward).My third pool is Slush's pool.It is not convenient to talk about pool profitability under this topic, but I would very much appreciate if there is a more profitable pool.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 17, 2015, 03:47:00 AM

My problem has been solved by changing the port.Thanks.

Cheers, i still recommend trying other pools for better payout and keeping BTC decentralized! (Antminer keep all of the transaction fee which is quite a bit)

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My problem has been solved by changing the port.Thanks.

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Quote from: gablay12 on August 16, 2015, 09:21:39 AM

If your S5 connected to the same rooter has different diffuculty level, it is because of your port settings.One is 8888 and other 9999. Change it and your problem will be solved.

Pls. change the ports and run your miners for half an hour.You will be aware of the difference.You can use this method also for S5 miners hashing below 1000.

it took me a few hours but I got them all on one port thu a proxy the Diff does sty the same so far can't really tell on hash yet or haven't looked other then at the miners ui on my S5's .from what i can tell the hash is more sable. I have them all running thu a Proxy PI on port 8888 . gonna test that a few days . Like this

=http://192.168.1.210:8332

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Quote from: toptek on August 16, 2015, 09:56:04 AM

Quote from: gablay12 on August 16, 2015, 09:21:39 AM

If your S5 connected to the same rooter has different diffuculty level, it is because of your port settings.One is 8888 and other 9999. Change it and your problem will be solved.

Pls. change the ports and run your miners for half an hour.You will be aware of the difference.You can use this method also for S5 miners hashing below 1000.

cool I'm gonna give this a shot for the drop in S5 speeds or some times below 1000 .

. I honestly didn't think of it ty .

If you mean the 5 second speed, its normal to vary a lot. Its not normal for an S5 at stock clock to drop under 1000 overall however, even if its 4k dif.

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Zagamon, it is none of your bussiness and I think your IQ is below room temperature.

In such a cranky mood... Oh... Did your donkey cheat on you? I am so sorry Embarrassed

Because my IQ is so low, I did not relies I was addressing a delusional rural ape with Napoleon complex, I will from now on though, forgive my "slowness" oh great one.

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Quote from: gablay12 on August 16, 2015, 09:21:39 AM

If your S5 connected to the same rooter has different diffuculty level, it is because of your port settings.One is 8888 and other 9999. Change it and your problem will be solved.

Pls. change the ports and run your miners for half an hour.You will be aware of the difference.You can use this method also for S5 miners hashing below 1000.

cool I'm gonna give this a shot for the drop in S5 speeds or some times below 1000 .

. I honestly didn't think of it ty .

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If your S5 connected to the same rooter has different diffuculty level, it is because of your port settings.One is 8888 and other 9999. Change it and your problem will be solved.

Pls. change the ports and run your miners for half an hour.You will be aware of the difference.You can use this method also for S5 miners hashing below 1000.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 11:23:27 AM

Dear friends I own two S5.They work at Antpool.However they do not perform the same.

nevinne.1 1.20 TH/s 1.37 TH/s 1.29 TH/s 1.13 TH/s 1081344 2048 0 40960 PPLNS 4096

nevinne.2 1.47 TH/s 972.46 GH/s 1.10 TH/s 1.15 TH/s 923648 0 0 0 PPLNS 2048

I assume the difference is due to the 'diffuculty' .Would any one tell me the optical diffuculty level for S5 and how to set (change) the diffuculty level.

you can try as a password but it won't work on the antpool it adjust it self .

but the way you can try it use the password like this is still works on sites that allow it ant pool doesn't

d=1042

or
d=1024
or

d=2048

etc as your password

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 02:24:09 PM

Quote from: Tupsu on August 14, 2015, 01:42:39 PM

Quote from: zagamon on August 14, 2015, 11:31:44 AM

Why all caps?

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 12:12:04 PM

Because it is a head line.

My little screamer, find first the Edit button .
After that I will perhaps answer to your question Wink

I do not care.If some body cares and help I really appreciate, if not it is ok too. Nobody has an obligation to help another.

But no one can tell me what to do or not.

Get off your high horse, it is not about somebody telling you what to do.
All caps is considered rude, and not many fancy helping rude people.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 02:57:03 PM

As a matter of fact I do not care about 20 GH difference. I want to learn to control parameters related to miners as much as possible.I want to learn.

At my daily job we own a case book (where all the cases we faced is recorded) and detailed control book where service people and user controls are recorded.

I have searhed how to change diffuculty from Bitmain's web site and Dogie's explanations.However I could not find so I decided to open the topic.notlist3d informed me that it may be controlled automatically by the pool.I will observe and if I see a change at diffuculty I will send you a feed back and share my experiences.

Its mostly pool sided.

For Nicehash you would use d=1024 as password for example. d=1536 would work probably, any lower would prolly get overidden to 2048. 4096 isint bad but personally i would use lower. Again, not that it really matter payout wise.

For Kanopool you would cap at 1042 anyways but you're allowed to set difficulty in your worker settings poolside. Even though at that speed it would probably get set to 1042 anyways.

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As a matter of fact I do not care about 20 GH difference. I want to learn to control parameters related to miners as much as possible.I want to learn.

At my daily job we own a case book (where all the cases we faced is recorded) and detailed control book where service people and user controls are recorded.

I have searhed how to change diffuculty from Bitmain's web site and Dogie's explanations.However I could not find so I decided to open the topic.notlist3d informed me that it may be controlled automatically by the pool.I will observe and if I see a change at diffuculty I will send you a feed back and share my experiences.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 02:31:04 PM

I thank you very much for your explanation.

Its not the difficulty. That only affect accepted rate and hash swings on pool side. They can take a long time to average out regardless. If you really have a 20gh difference it can be for many reasons. If its really a big deal to you, post a screenshot of both miner status.

Also i'd say try another pool, like https://www.kano.is/index.php

The Chinese have enough hashrate as it is Tongue

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I thank you very much for your explanation.

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Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 02:24:09 PM

Quote from: Tupsu on August 14, 2015, 01:42:39 PM

Quote from: zagamon on August 14, 2015, 11:31:44 AM

Why all caps?

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 12:12:04 PM

Because it is a head line.

My little screamer, find first the Edit button .
After that I will perhaps answer to your question Wink

I do not care.If some body cares and help I really appreciate, if not it is ok too. Nobody has an obligation to help another.

But no one can tell me what to do or not.

I believe antpool is picking the "best" difficulty. As you mine the pool changes depending on how your miner is doing.

I have used this standard where it auto picks difficulty without any problems with antpool.

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Quote from: Tupsu on August 14, 2015, 01:42:39 PM

Quote from: zagamon on August 14, 2015, 11:31:44 AM

Why all caps?

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 12:12:04 PM

Because it is a head line.

My little screamer, find first the Edit button .
After that I will perhaps answer to your question Wink

I do not care.If some body cares and help I really appreciate, if not it is ok too. Nobody has an obligation to help another.

But no one can tell me what to do or not.

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Quote from: zagamon on August 14, 2015, 11:31:44 AM

Why all caps?

Quote from: BTC_ISTANBUL on August 14, 2015, 12:12:04 PM

Because it is a head line.

My little screamer, find first the Edit button .
After that I will perhaps answer to your question Wink

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Because it is a head line.

zagamon

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Why all caps?

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Dear friends I own two S5.They work at Antpool.However they do not perform the same.

nevinne.1 1.20 TH/s 1.37 TH/s 1.29 TH/s 1.13 TH/s 1081344 2048 0 40960 PPLNS 4096

nevinne.2 1.47 TH/s 972.46 GH/s 1.10 TH/s 1.15 TH/s 923648 0 0 0 PPLNS 2048

I assume the difference is due to the 'diffuculty' .Would any one tell me the optical diffuculty level for S5 and how to set (change) the diffuculty level.

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