How to convert High-S value to Low-S value?

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Quote from: Fellane on August 06, 2020, 05:47:39 PM

How do I replace it? I don’t get it. Is there step by step tutorial? My S value doesn’t look like anything like what your just sent.

with palpable integers:

Code:

N = 23
s = 18 -> -s = -18
-18 ≡ 5 (mod 23)

Quote from: achow101 on August 06, 2020, 06:46:26 PM

If you are doing this by hand, don't forget to change the length before the S value.

things like this should never be done by hand

you missed the sequence length in your first (high s) signature which should have been 0x45 and also it is easy to miss the data push size and scriptsig length that come before all this which should also be reduced by one (or more) each. the new s may also be smaller than 32 bytes and need another size (eg 0x19) or need the positive sign byte (0x00) if its highest bit is set.

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Just writing some code

Quote from: Fellane on August 06, 2020, 05:47:39 PM

How do I replace it? I don’t get it. Is there step by step tutorial? My S value doesn’t look like anything like what your just sent.

How are you making the signature? What software are you using?

Here is a signature with high S:

Code:

30440220534d4f17b88e62b097ba36720ecee6d3389d1192f2018546aa5d23bf2f234a27022100871b3da3d77564f2589fedfce761a42a912b186d78a4da291a2eaaacbf5eb31201

The S value is:

Code:

00871b3da3d77564f2589fedfce761a42a912b186d78a4da291a2eaaacbf5eb312

In python:

Code:

>>> hex(0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25E8CD0364141 - 0x00871b3da3d77564f2589fedfce761a42a912b186d78a4da291a2eaaacbf5eb312)
'0x78e4c25c288a9b0da7601203189e5bd42983c47936a3c612a5a3b3e010d78e2f'

The new signature with low S is

Code:

30440220534d4f17b88e62b097ba36720ecee6d3389d1192f2018546aa5d23bf2f234a27022078e4c25c288a9b0da7601203189e5bd42983c47936a3c612a5a3b3e010d78e2f01

If you are doing this by hand, don't forget to change the length before the S value.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 06, 2020, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on August 06, 2020, 12:15:54 PM

divide s by N-s ?

Not quite. You simply make s equal to N-s.

If s is greater than N/2, then you would replace s with -s. Since we are using modular arthimetic, -s becomes N-s.

Here's the relevant text from BIP62:

Quote from: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki#Low_S_values_in_signatures

The value S in signatures must be between 0x1 and 0x7FFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF 5D576E73 57A4501D DFE92F46 681B20A0 (inclusive). If S is too high, simply replace it by S' = 0xFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFE BAAEDCE6 AF48A03B BFD25E8C D0364141 - S.

How do I replace it? I don’t get it. Is there step by step tutorial? My S value doesn’t look like anything like what your just sent.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 06, 2020, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on August 06, 2020, 12:15:54 PM

divide s by N-s ?

Not quite. You simply make s equal to N-s.

If s is greater than N/2, then you would replace s with -s. Since we are using modular arthimetic, -s becomes N-s.

Here's the relevant text from BIP62:

Quote from: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki#Low_S_values_in_signatures

The value S in signatures must be between 0x1 and 0x7FFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF 5D576E73 57A4501D DFE92F46 681B20A0 (inclusive). If S is too high, simply replace it by S' = 0xFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFE BAAEDCE6 AF48A03B BFD25E8C D0364141 - S.

Sorry, you're right. Subtract is what it should've been :O, Not sure where i came up with divide (and s by N-s.. :O), Terrible! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on August 06, 2020, 12:15:54 PM

divide s by N-s ?

Not quite. You simply make s equal to N-s.

If s is greater than N/2, then you would replace s with -s. Since we are using modular arthimetic, -s becomes N-s.

Here's the relevant text from BIP62:

Quote from: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0062.mediawiki#Low_S_values_in_signatures

The value S in signatures must be between 0x1 and 0x7FFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF 5D576E73 57A4501D DFE92F46 681B20A0 (inclusive). If S is too high, simply replace it by S' = 0xFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFE BAAEDCE6 AF48A03B BFD25E8C D0364141 - S.

AdolfinWolf

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It seems like the most-used solution is to check if s > N/2, and if so, subtract N by S, so it becomes N-s

This library seems to support it, but i don't use python so don't quote me on that.
https://github.com/warner/python-ecdsa/search?q=sigencode_der_canonize&type=

Code: (src/ecdsa/util.py)

def sigencode_der_canonize(r, s, order):
if s > order / 2:
s = order - s

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I created a bitcoin transaction but I'm getting an error when trying to broadcast it:

mandatory-script-verify-flag-failed (Non-canonical signature: S value is unnecessarily high) (code 16)

I googled it and seems the problem is that S value in ScriptSig is High. I didn't find a working method to convert my High-S value to Low-s value. Could someone help me with that? Any help would be appreciated and well rewarded Cheesy

. Maybe there is some python script that can convert High-S value to Low.

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