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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

I use technical analysis. And for me volume would be enough. When there is a big spike on price and somehow volume has little to know. For that simply means,. there is a while that is buying on bulk and massive amount on lower price. That will result then on higher prices, probably a breakout on previous high or a moving average. 99MA or 50 moving average. For me that is enough. The challenging part would be finding relevant coins and project so you may consider having a list.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

You should change the concept of your strategy. You need to move away from chart patterns and pay attention to other parameters: liquidity, structure and POI efficiency. This whole trading concept is called SmartMoney. You see movements from the big players on the chart, RR is bigger and the execution is better.

That means op need to pay attention to the news just like the fundamental analysis rather then sticking to chart which could not have a serious effect on the market at large. Cryptocurrency is crypto everyday and there have been different patterns traders and investors had been using to make money on the exchange. It is very important for one to follow the news and make proper investments.
There are different strategies one can use to trade and invest in the cryptocurrency market.

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There are many types of people in the market the aim of whaling is to make it so low that all individuals leave their children with what they can spare. look at tron or waves see if they first remove the panicked sellers and lower the price a bit then they try to fix the price in the case of bitcoin so that the traders get fed up and leave it. There are endless strategies and it is very difficult to follow the whales in the crypto market so proceed with caution.

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Bro who pump this old thread hahahah this come from 2015 and the OP probably not gonna online hahaha.

For now you can follow whale through web 3 app like debank or something like that but this can be done with web 3 related

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Quote from: Hamphser on March 27, 2024, 10:43:05 AM

Totally difficult i would say on which these whales arent that someone whom you could really be able to follow.Somehow excluding into those known whales on X on which you could really be able to watch out
on what they are doing but actually knowing before their purchase then this is something that cant be known. They might be telling something but they had already positioned themselves at the bottom and this is why it would really be that too hard or something too risky for you chase them up on trying out to follow because you might be ending up on holding into the peak once these whales would really be selling out.
This is why its better that you shouldnt really be trying out to make yourself that chasing up on whatever their movement would be and besides there's no way that you could be able to tell
on whose whale and those fakes.

That's right, following whales in the crypto market is not easy, you could only do what they do quite a while later, and crypto is quick so it is not going to be easy. This isn't stock market where you just buy whatever warren buffet buys, that type of thing is not working at crypto so it wouldn't really be reasonable to expect people to do something like that.

I believe that we are going to have some trouble one way or another, and we should avoid having these troubles. I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just focusing on what we could do ourselves without checking what whales do. After all, if you learn TA and FA well enough, you should be considering the situation to be growing much better in the end.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on March 27, 2024, 10:26:43 AM

This is something I am also studying. But it is quite difficult to know and follow the movements of whales in the market. And because it was quite difficult, I changed my perspective and tried to be more active in looking for information. So I can get earlier information. Because most whales they also move based on information. So the steps I took were steps that whales might also take. Although I'm not sure. But so far I have made quite a profit after being more active in searching for information. Maybe people call it fundamental analysis. And I have to admit that information is one of the triggers for market movements.

Whales move with information, when they have information about something new that the maker doesn't know they start taking action therefore if you want to follow whales and be able to do things like they're doing you have to follow the information. You can observe their wallets too, there are some whales wallet that are known to the public and if you keep observation of the wallet you can buy the coins that they're buying and also sell the coins that they're selling. I won't monitor a whales wallets for when they're buying or selling Bitcoin but I can do it for altcoins because I don't know how to buy good altcoin but when investing in Bitcoins, I know when to buy and when to sell to take profits. Following whales have advantages and disadvantages because whales can manipulate those that are following them.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

It's really difficult because if you say a group of whales, means they are multiple and for sure some of them have this special access to coordinate with each other if they want to make some manipulation.
Some whales also are alone and depends on their size how they can affect the market.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on March 27, 2024, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

This is something I am also studying. But it is quite difficult to know and follow the movements of whales in the market. And because it was quite difficult, I changed my perspective and tried to be more active in looking for information. So I can get earlier information. Because most whales they also move based on information. So the steps I took were steps that whales might also take. Although I'm not sure. But so far I have made quite a profit after being more active in searching for information. Maybe people call it fundamental analysis. And I have to admit that information is one of the triggers for market movements.

what method would you utilize to know what move the whales gonna take next though if we can figure it out then its definitely gonna give us edge against these whales but so far i've found a thing except just monitoring whales address on whale alert which usually don't really mean anything except that we are notified first hand when these whales are making move but when they are making move they're probably done with their thing anyway.
therefore i haven't found any effective method as of yet other than just following their buy order which hopefully might really means that certain coin gonna be pumping.
personally though I don't really believe just a small group of whales could control the market, the trading volume and market cap is too high for that but i can be wrong though
after all sometime the market just moves so absurdly sudden dump and pump is kinda normal scene in the market of crypto but then again
that doesn't necessarily means market is manipulated.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on March 27, 2024, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

This is something I am also studying. But it is quite difficult to know and follow the movements of whales in the market. And because it was quite difficult, I changed my perspective and tried to be more active in looking for information. So I can get earlier information. Because most whales they also move based on information. So the steps I took were steps that whales might also take. Although I'm not sure. But so far I have made quite a profit after being more active in searching for information. Maybe people call it fundamental analysis. And I have to admit that information is one of the triggers for market movements.

Totally difficult i would say on which these whales arent that someone whom you could really be able to follow.Somehow excluding into those known whales on X on which you could really be able to watch out
on what they are doing but actually knowing before their purchase then this is something that cant be known. They might be telling something but they had already positioned themselves at the bottom and this is why it would really be that too hard or something too risky for you chase them up on trying out to follow because you might be ending up on holding into the peak once these whales would really be selling out.
This is why its better that you shouldnt really be trying out to make yourself that chasing up on whatever their movement would be and besides there's no way that you could be able to tell
on whose whale and those fakes.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

This is something I am also studying. But it is quite difficult to know and follow the movements of whales in the market. And because it was quite difficult, I changed my perspective and tried to be more active in looking for information. So I can get earlier information. Because most whales they also move based on information. So the steps I took were steps that whales might also take. Although I'm not sure. But so far I have made quite a profit after being more active in searching for information. Maybe people call it fundamental analysis. And I have to admit that information is one of the triggers for market movements.

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Quote from: Adbitco on March 25, 2024, 03:14:00 PM

Following whales are like digging a part for yourself to sink into lose usually when followed whale you should know that your capital and their capital can never be the same let say you invest in a project with about $10k and a whale invest with about $500k if market reduces to -65% meaning you are losing $6.5k from your $10k leaving you with $3.5k at this point if you don't have patient enough to hold you could end up waiting your resources.

So it's better do your investment and make your findings whenever the market increases you take profits and let the market swing the way that please itself, people who are always greedy looking forward to follow some specific people to trade always ends up in regrets that is why we must follow them rather trading within your level of investment.

thats true, difference in capital contribute to whether the trades gonna results in success or not.
there are many people that eager to follow whales movement but most of whales are doing trades inside centralized exchange where its unlike using dex where the transaction recorded in the blockchain instead cex will only display the sell or buy order and that doesn't necessarily implies that whales are buying up if somehow market turning green because whales usually make their transactions across various exchange to spread liquidity or supply and avoid big slippage if they want to make buy order within short amount of time.
therefore following whales might be a stupid move to be honest these whales will definitely have better insight than most of us, we might become exit liquidity for them if we just blindly follows these whales game.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

You should change the concept of your strategy. You need to move away from chart patterns and pay attention to other parameters: liquidity, structure and POI efficiency. This whole trading concept is called SmartMoney. You see movements from the big players on the chart, RR is bigger and the execution is better.

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There are several tools which allow you to set up custom Telegram alerts. You can specify certain variables such as ‘coin’ and ‘amount transferred’ and you will receive an alert whenever there is blockchain activity that meets this criteria. You can also follow movements from specific addresses if you happen to know the wallet of a specific whale you would like to follow.

Here is an alert I set up whenever somebody transfers over $1,000,000 of a token I had invested in:

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Whales don't do whatever they want with the price of BTC or any Crypto for that matter. All they do is influence the market trend, to be either bullish or bearish which in turn also affect the demand or cause a fee rise in price for transaction due to network congestion.

The best way to follow whale investors is to pay close attention to the news to hear the largest acquisition or investment an investor has made. Like for Michael Saylor of Microstrategy who early this March, acquired $12k worth of BTC and is still intent to increase the figure.
He is a whale investor and for the social platforms which share such crypto news as well as offer crypto signals for traders, they should be followed to know more of these whales and when they do move their funds, so one doesn't become an early victim of whale movements affecting their trading gains and plans.

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It is difficult to follow whales movements because we never know where the whales will move. Besides that, when some coins are moved, it is not necessarily a movement of whales. The large volume also does not guarantee it is a whale move.

Maybe you can analyze the coins on the market and then determine which coins you will analyze further. However, knowing whether whales are following the coin will not be easy because no one knows who is trading the coin.

That's why you have to have the ability to analyze coin movements so you can know which coin will move, although that doesn't guarantee you can know for sure. We can only try to analyze to find the coin.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them?

I think the essence of trading is to follow market movements. Too many indicators sometimes make us confused. I'm prefer to follow the trends in the market. We have to look at price trend movements on several different time frames so we can find the major trend. When the trend is bullish, then buy and hold until the trend changes. If the trend is bearrish, then sell or stay clam. It is also important to carry out fundamental analysis so that we have an investment plan and can carry out technical analysis to make investment selection and proportions. If your prediction is wrong, make corrections immediately so you don't experience a lot of losses and correct it another time. I don't believe in whales and I even don't know them, I believe it is a market trend and I will follow it.

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Following whales are like digging a part for yourself to sink into lose usually when followed whale you should know that your capital and their capital can never be the same let say you invest in a project with about $10k and a whale invest with about $500k if market reduces to -65% meaning you are losing $6.5k from your $10k leaving you with $3.5k at this point if you don't have patient enough to hold you could end up waiting your resources.

I don't get your point here. Indeed, the investment capital of a normal trader cannot be equal to the trading capital of a whale, but if a normal trader makes a trade with a whale, on the same cryptocurrency but with a different capital, both would lose the same percentage from their investment if that cryptocurrency loses value. So if you invest $10k and lose $6k in that dip, the whale would lose $600k if he had invested $1m. So the loss percentage is the same and it's based on a trader's loss appetite.

Regardless, a normal trader can't know a whale's movements and when and in which cryptocurrency they will make their trades in, they tend to manipulate the market so that they can earn profit from small traders, so they would never reveal their secrets for the general public.

Okay I understand your point now, look what I am trying to say is that before the market could dip whale has already sold out their holding and as a small trader you won't know they are responsible for the dip whereby a small trader would still have this mindsets that s/he is losing together with the whale without knowing those dude has already taken profits.

The problems is that you can't tell or detect the direction of the whale when they sell or buy but for you know is when the market is dipping as I understand that most of marketing changes is a result of whale manipulating the market or as results if bad news that hit the market so severely.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

Don't follow any whale. They will mess up your brain as you will constantly be glued to their wallets as if you don't have a life of your own. In the past I was concerned about that too and on-chain analyses would help in that aspect. It wasn't to monitor when those whales are buying more or selling off what they had. It was purely to check out projects those whales are deploying funds to, and then research those projects if they aren't popular already. In this space, I've come to realize that once a project is being talked about by most people, just know it's already getting late buying into it.

In all these, learning TA (technical analysis) is key. That skill enables one know the likely direction the market could be moving. On TA, the best indicators to use in my opinion are indicators that lead and empower breakouts (BO) like trend lines, pivots points S&R. Learn how to use those and you will be happier you did now. L

However not all people are capable of trading. They are not able to manage their funds due to some stress or technicalities. And that's their last resort is to follow someone who is already making money. There's is nothing wrong with that! In professional terms, that's what you call Copy Trading. As much as you can follow a system, and the person you are following is legitimate then you will be profitable long term.

Most exchanges now are allowing copytrading. Binance I believe do offer copy trading where you can copy trades of profitable trades. Though you may not actually copy whales, you can still have the system of profitable investors and traders.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

Don't follow any whale. They will mess up your brain as you will constantly be glued to their wallets as if you don't have a life of your own. In the past I was concerned about that too and on-chain analyses would help in that aspect. It wasn't to monitor when those whales are buying more or selling off what they had. It was purely to check out projects those whales are deploying funds to, and then research those projects if they aren't popular already. In this space, I've come to realize that once a project is being talked about by most people, just know it's already getting late buying into it.

In all these, learning TA (technical analysis) is key. That skill enables one know the likely direction the market could be moving. On TA, the best indicators to use in my opinion are indicators that lead and empower breakouts (BO) like trend lines, pivots points S&R. Learn how to use those and you will be happier you did now. L

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

As long as they want to manipulate the market in their own way, their movements are truly difficult to detect unless they are happening at that very moment. Of the things you mentioned, volume is the most reasonable thing to consider. However, once again because they are trying to manipulate the market, it could all be happening secretly.

We can see suspicious market movements based on volume as well, so I think this is the most worth considering.

One thing that might occur to me is that their activities are not always profitable in every activity, but in the end their goal is profit. Yes, if you only follow the movements of the whales half way, there is a big possibility that you will experience losses... so if you understand how to move the same as the movements of the whales, you have to follow from start to finish, because we all know that they can sustain losses. to dump the market and bounce it again to take profit.

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Quote from: Adbitco on March 25, 2024, 03:14:00 PM

Following whales are like digging a part for yourself to sink into lose usually when followed whale you should know that your capital and their capital can never be the same let say you invest in a project with about $10k and a whale invest with about $500k if market reduces to -65% meaning you are losing $6.5k from your $10k leaving you with $3.5k at this point if you don't have patient enough to hold you could end up waiting your resources.

I don't get your point here. Indeed, the investment capital of a normal trader cannot be equal to the trading capital of a whale, but if a normal trader makes a trade with a whale, on the same cryptocurrency but with a different capital, both would lose the same percentage from their investment if that cryptocurrency loses value. So if you invest $10k and lose $6k in that dip, the whale would lose $600k if he had invested $1m. So the loss percentage is the same and it's based on a trader's loss appetite.

Regardless, a normal trader can't know a whale's movements and when and in which cryptocurrency they will make their trades in, they tend to manipulate the market so that they can earn profit from small traders, so they would never reveal their secrets for the general public.

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Following whales are like digging a part for yourself to sink into lose usually when followed whale you should know that your capital and their capital can never be the same let say you invest in a project with about $10k and a whale invest with about $500k if market reduces to -65% meaning you are losing $6.5k from your $10k leaving you with $3.5k at this point if you don't have patient enough to hold you could end up waiting your resources.

So it's better do your investment and make your findings whenever the market increases you take profits and let the market swing the way that please itself, people who are always greedy looking forward to follow some specific people to trade always ends up in regrets that is why we must follow them rather trading within your level of investment.

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I actually used to do this by looking at the Richlist of a few tokens. I would track the ones who bought $1M or more and would sell when they sold and add when they added. I did this for many years and honestly it didn't help me become profitable. Basically in a bull market, every whale made money. And when the markets topped, all those whales sold at a loss or they just held on to it while it became -99%.

Its proof that even if you got tons of money you can still make the same bad investment mistakes as some millionaires do. So there is no point really in analysing the blockchain and following whale buys and sells. There is no edge to this. Unless I just did it incorrectly but I am pretty sure these were whale self-custody wallets and not exchanges. And in the end... i got nowhere.

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Saw that this thread was created way back in 2015, However it was bumped. This is a very difficult thing to do or spot and if there's such way to spot when whales are buying everyone would tend to do same thing in order to take the advantage. If you actually want to study the activities of whales or buy when they are buying, go study the wyckoff schematic of accumulation and distribution, this way you have high percentage chance of spotting possible bottoms and tops. The method shows you how the smart money guys operates in the market.

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Quote from: Kelward on March 24, 2024, 07:21:22 AM

a trader can follow a signal group, and make the most of it, in all the crypto space

I hope that most of the traders, mostly the new ones won't follow any signals group because that's like a bad thing that they can follow with. If they're going to take a look at those groups and they see some significant information whether they're from whales or not, but most likely not then just follow what kind of indicator they're seeing from it.

Quote from: Kelward on March 24, 2024, 07:21:22 AM

I think that trading is the most complex and it requires a lot of expertise and commitments in order to minimize loses and become profitable in it.

Not that a lot of expertise, you know the basics but being profitable is truly hard and it doesn't happen to everyone.

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Quote from: Kelward on March 24, 2024, 07:21:22 AM

The subject of the thread really caught my attention, and I'm eager to know how to follow whales too, but the comments so far is about the indicators to follow, so I guess that whales do not want people to follow them, every trader has to research and find their own indicators. You suggestion is also good, a trader can follow a signal group, and make the most of it, in all the crypto space, I think that trading is the most complex and it requires a lot of expertise and commitments in order to minimize loses and become profitable in it.

How do you know they are actually whales?

See how they are rich with their assets, lifestyle like Sam Bankman-Fried?

Whales can be smart with investment, trading or just are rich because of their scam, fraudulent activities like SBF.

Following whales will be like using a double-edged sword and you can get benefit or get harmed. If you are not smart, you can be manipulated by their signals and become victims of their distribution.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

There is not indicator that is going to show you that. All you have to do is to look for good signal groups you can join that has whales there where they can be going the members signals to trade. This is the only way you could get to that and understand more about this crypto space. There are so many signal groups you could join and make money by taking there signals although so of them are not free.yiu will have to do the research yourself so you could get what you are looking for. This is never difficult at all.

The subject of the thread really caught my attention, and I'm eager to know how to follow whales too, but the comments so far is about the indicators to follow, so I guess that whales do not want people to follow them, every trader has to research and find their own indicators. You suggestion is also good, a trader can follow a signal group, and make the most of it, in all the crypto space, I think that trading is the most complex and it requires a lot of expertise and commitments in order to minimize loses and become profitable in it.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

There is not indicator that is going to show you that. All you have to do is to look for good signal groups you can join that has whales there where they can be going the members signals to trade. This is the only way you could get to that and understand more about this crypto space. There are so many signal groups you could join and make money by taking there signals although so of them are not free.yiu will have to do the research yourself so you could get what you are looking for. This is never difficult at all.

I won't fall victim to any fake signals anymore. Joining random groups and channels on Telegram was how i started copying trading, and when I checked my success rate, it was low. I gained nothing more than learning more and more because those trades I executed back then from those groups were most of the wrong trades, and i lost so much in them. I don't want something like that to repeat itself. I prefer that someone who wants to be a professional trader should not rely on such groups. Instead, the intention should be to learn a new pattern and how they can adjust their way of trading by introducing the new pattern in such a way that it will benefit them.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on December 07, 2015, 01:24:36 PM

I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

There is not indicator that is going to show you that. All you have to do is to look for good signal groups you can join that has whales there where they can be going the members signals to trade. This is the only way you could get to that and understand more about this crypto space. There are so many signal groups you could join and make money by taking there signals although so of them are not free.yiu will have to do the research yourself so you could get what you are looking for. This is never difficult at all.

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The thing is, whales are not tools or any kind of indicators; whales are the term for those investors in bitcoin or people who hold a huge amount of bitcoin. They have been called whales because, as they hold a lot of bitcoin, every engagement they do in the market could affect the movement of the market or they could influence the market. Let's put it this way: if there is a group of whales that hold the majority of the bitcoin supply and they suddenly sell all their holdings, what do you think will happen? Of course, the price of bitcoin might drop a lot, as more supply equals less demand. The same goes if they buy a huge amount of bitcoin again, and then the demand will increase as the bitcoin price increases. The truth is, we can't know how they will engage in the market so that we can follow them. This is because not all whales reveal their identities, so maybe there are indicators for them, but the thing is, they are hard to predict, and we can never know what their purpose is in every engagement they do in the market.

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Think all I learned from this thread is when the market is stagnant expect a pump. Will have to keep a eye on this being a noob that I am. How much bitcoin is a good amount for daily trading anyways?

It depends on the coin. If the coin has future and the price is hovering around a level, it means the whales are accumulating.

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like others I wait for the prices to get stable then either buy
or sell depending on what it has done recently.

Like after we shot up to 440-450 I waited but then saw we were
evening out. So I started to sell some. Then it dropped back below
400 and I waited then it sat around 370-380 so I bought some.

We will see what happens next.

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Think all I learned from this thread is when the market is stagnant expect a pump. Will have to keep a eye on this being a noob that I am. How much bitcoin is a good amount for daily trading anyways?

~Bitcoin~

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Quote from: JosNekoKopa on February 09, 2016, 11:01:39 AM

Quote from: Amph on December 08, 2015, 03:36:40 AM

usually i follow the simple rule, that if the price stay for a very long time in the same range, a pump will eventually happen, because i consider the price rock solid at that point

now we are on a bull market

Best experience i have so far is to follow those guys with more experience than i have..This is very convenient if they are honest and trustworthy like this legendary member!
Thanks.

But where to find those whales who like to help new traders in trading. I have never seen some legendary experienced member anywhere creating helpful thread to give daily analysis + what to do next like tips.

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Quote from: Amph on December 08, 2015, 03:36:40 AM

usually i follow the simple rule, that if the price stay for a very long time in the same range, a pump will eventually happen, because i consider the price rock solid at that point

now we are on a bull market

Best experience i have so far is to follow those guys with more experience than i have..This is very convenient if they are honest and trustworthy like this legendary member!
Thanks.

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When the whales find you are following them, they will change the direction of the price and shake you out.

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I don't think that there is a flawless way of following the whales behavior. The bitcoin Market is still too volatile and unpredictable for one manage to do that!

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No whales give you the truth on which coins is going up or down . i guess you just monitor the markets carefully 24 \7 as best as you can analyze carefully the buy\sell wall .to get in the right time.

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May be in some investor's forums ? I do not see another option. Whales can own also investment companies, but in their webpages you can not find anything real, except may be as exception. Grin

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I dont think whales would mind anyone following them or joining their secret club if it does exist.If more people join a whale cartel,it will bring more money,knowledge and resorces and more effectively they can control the market

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The truth is you can't really follow them unless you personally know some whale. The closes you can follow them is by analyzing the order book but that would mean you are watching numerous exchange sites 24/7 for you to hitch a ride.
The best thing you can do IMO, is by formulating your own strategy. There are numerous tutorials out there from EMA strat to averaging that you can study. From there, you can formulate your own strategy.

Goodluck.

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To follow whales you need to ne a parte of an élite of pump and dumpers.whit some inside info you can make lot of money

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Quote from: eternalgloom on February 03, 2016, 05:21:33 PM

It's always a good idea to keep an eye on the total value of buy and sell orders.
Especially when you see huge amounts of Bitcoins being moved to create a wall, usually means there is a pump to be expected.

I don't think it's a good method to see what the market is up to as a lot of the orders in the order book are fake. They will get pulled as soon as the market price comes closer and closer to these fake orders. I have seen order books look solid at the beginning, and a few hours later it was looking horrible as in the price could tank at any moment. It's heavily being manipulated.

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It's always a good idea to keep an eye on the total value of buy and sell orders.
Especially when you see huge amounts of Bitcoins being moved to create a wall, usually means there is a pump to be expected.

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Sometimes whales can do different thing from one you have expected!
This strategy is not my favorite. You can wait dips when you hear alarms from bitcoinwisdom.

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I think one of the best advice is the one given first: wait till price is stable and then somewhat guess if it is time to buy or sell analysing in which price we are at. If it is relatively low, it is likely to go up from stability mark. But you cannot be sure 100%

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Quote from: elDano on December 14, 2015, 08:59:22 AM

Let's turn it around. If you could make millions with bitcoin trading would you allow people to join and lower your profit or would you be invisible?

I would choose for the latter and would not share my information/knowledge etc. So I don't think it is possible to share it. With so much at stake the best way to 'follow' them is to make read trends on the market.
And as you propably know that is quite hard and no guarantee.

It is difficult to follow whales. They will not let us know their action plan. We can just guess, for example that for now the whales are accumulating so the price is not rising.

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Let's turn it around. If you could make millions with bitcoin trading would you allow people to join and lower your profit or would you be invisible?

I would choose for the latter and would not share my information/knowledge etc. So I don't think it is possible to share it. With so much at stake the best way to 'follow' them is to make read trends on the market.
And as you propably know that is quite hard and no guarantee.

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Quote from: jt byte on December 13, 2015, 04:07:02 PM

I assume there are some dedicated forums where the whales reside. They charge a fee for your membership, but in return you get some great analysis + inside information about trends etc.
Most big investors are subscribed there.

more like there are some secret chat, privately like those that you have for development, but they would not tell you where to partecipate

i think if you had a good amount of money you can play with them on the market, but they need to know your experience about trading i guess

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I assume there are some dedicated forums where the whales reside. They charge a fee for your membership, but in return you get some great analysis + inside information about trends etc.
Most big investors are subscribed there.

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I think you should learn to analyse the market. Check patterns and learn what they mean.
This way you will learn and earn more then following whales.

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The whales don't want to be followed, so you've got a little chance to follow them.
Best thing to do is to follow charts and learn to analyze them. This way you can read the market.

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You can watch the major exchanges and the volumes and orders. Increasing volume means something is going to happen (most of the time).
Also if some big buy orders appear you know something is going to happen.

Good luck.

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There is not a way to follow the whales. They will not let you know their trails. When the price has been staying in a range for long time, the pump will be a big one. But we do not know when the pump will start.

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You can't follow whales unless you yourself are a whale or a part of their team, they cannot profit if you predict them and profit.

Quote from: junglist.massive on December 10, 2015, 07:10:37 PM

how you make bitcoins now?

How to get a life ? there is no answer to it ,all the people around you are in search of it and there is no accurate answer to such questions.
every guy cannot make bitcoins the same way ,finding out what suites you is the trick.

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First of all thinking that following whale an mimicking is trading patter is gonna make you millionaire is a little wishful thinking in my opinion.
It is not easy to do as bitcoin whales usually don't share information in a blatant way via their twitter or something like that.
It is like others said already if you are just small time investor watching market alone will be a better option than trying to find whale to follow.

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If there's a way, it would either be super-secret or extremely well known. If you are able to follow a whale, then you can watch to see if they are about to pump, then you can follow them and profit off them.

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It's hard to follow. Usually pretty easy though to just follow the trend, but need to keep your head cool. I almost always see the price go the wrong way for me after I have taken a position. But I just keep cool and wait some days, and the trend continues and I make money.

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Quote from: tyz on December 10, 2015, 02:42:05 PM

At the beginning of my Bitcoin career i asked this question myself, too. From time to time, i figured out that following big whales - no matter for which coin - on twitter could give good information about their upcoming moves.
it was too time spending for me and i found out other ways to make Bitcoin, so i stopped to follow them.

Quote from: Backside walkaround on December 08, 2015, 01:11:29 PM

Sorry, isn't this a thread about how to follow whales and not speculation on the price of bitcoin?

I'm interested in following the big folks' movement too, but I don't know how to do it.

how you make bitcoins now?

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There are no indicators. Else there would no pump since a lot of money is used buying bitcoin.
So, a volume increase can mean somebody is cashing out, buying or a pump. The increase itself is no guarantee that a pump is coming.

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At the beginning of my Bitcoin career i asked this question myself, too. From time to time, i figured out that following big whales - no matter for which coin - on twitter could give good information about their upcoming moves.
it was too time spending for me and i found out other ways to make Bitcoin, so i stopped to follow them.

Quote from: Backside walkaround on December 08, 2015, 01:11:29 PM

Sorry, isn't this a thread about how to follow whales and not speculation on the price of bitcoin?

I'm interested in following the big folks' movement too, but I don't know how to do it.

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I don't think those bitcoin whales have made any group and if they do so then there is no way for public to see their movement. It will be only dream to know about pump and dump.

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but you know. there's no sense to fight with market and when Im still small fish in blockchain ocean It would be easier to hanging with whales. For now Im foused on wolume and bfxdata but Im looking for something new

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Basically, don't follow the whales ,create your own.Assume your own predictions.Make your own charts.Because you can't really get a clear solution following the whales.But yeah creating charts and patterns and performing some analysis is always a good option for estimation.

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Quote from: bitcoinblessed on December 08, 2015, 12:02:36 PM

Good advice fellas, thanks!

I would add that my belief is that talk of whales is far more common than whales. Wink

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Quote from: Backside walkaround on December 08, 2015, 01:11:29 PM

Sorry, isn't this a thread about how to follow whales and not speculation on the price of bitcoin?

I'm interested in following the big folks' movement too, but I don't know how to do it.

I dont think you can, It would be a disadvantage to them if you knew that it was a pump and not just the market growing. It would be an even bigger disadvantage to them if you knew when they were going to dump.

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Sorry, isn't this a thread about how to follow whales and not speculation on the price of bitcoin?

I'm interested in following the big folks' movement too, but I don't know how to do it.

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its a bit bullish at the minute i suspect it will be that way right up until Christmas with a steady downturn in the new year. buy around early Feb 2016. some good altcoin prices at the minute also.

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Good advice fellas, thanks!

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Quote from: Amph on December 08, 2015, 03:36:40 AM

usually i follow the simple rule, that if the price stay for a very long time in the same range, a pump will eventually happen, because i consider the price rock solid at that point

now we are on a bull market

I pretty much do the same thing here. If the price stays in the same range, I hold until a pump happens and then you get your chance.

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Pretty tricky until there's a serious pump. I don't think there is much other way to know.

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usually i follow the simple rule, that if the price stay for a very long time in the same range, a pump will eventually happen, because i consider the price rock solid at that point

now we are on a bull market

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I realised that small group of whales basicly own bitcoin market and do whatever they want with price. On which indicators I have to watch to follow them? volume only? some shapes on charts?

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