How to have a united world (With bitcoins)

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

I would like to make bitcoin a symbol of peace.
Look at the newspapers. Governments are always at war and stealing from each other.
There are several people in the world who have all the affairs of the world in their hands.
Who is God?
These people consider themselves the god of the world and no one knows them.

Now let's look the other way.

War-torn and hungry boys and girls
A father without money to feed his children
75% of the people in the world are hungry and dying. Or homeless.
What is the reason for this?
Sanctions and wars and thousands of other policies that not only you and I but also our fathers do not understand and we are toys.
And by working not only do we not work for ourselves but we are raising money for them.
But what can be done?
I hope that one day Bitcoin will be able to cut off the hands of the great powers from many thefts.
And send some of the profits of the people every month to the poor and war-torn.
And then there's one thing that holds governments together, and that is bitcoin.
And only then can we prove to the world that Bitcoin was created to serve the people.

And this is the future I dream of.

Nothing wrong with being an idealist, but the most glaring problem that all such people have is that they get lost on their dreams, bitcoin was never designed to anything of what you dream of, bitcoin was designed to be a decentralized currency you can exchange over long distances and that cannot be inflated away, that is pretty much it and as long as it can become that and be used all over the world by a significant number of people then the vision of satoshi will be complete.

Everything else is optional and while I have no doubts that if bitcoin imposed itself as the most powerful currency around the world it could alleviate some issues it is not as if it is going to solve them completely.

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Quote from: kentrolla on October 24, 2020, 01:21:28 AM

Yes BTC has been hot topic everywhere but making it United is impossible because we are already divided in the name of nation, mutual understanding across every nation is quite impossible.

I think also that it will be an impossible to happen to believe all people will come to one single group in the use of bitcoin. This is not to happen with humans that like owning their own means of payment as fiat they use for local trading and selling.

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As long as we can manage to bring all the big nations in the world that "steals" money from their own people and from around the world by being richer and keeping the other ones poorer with politics, we could definitely have a bigger unified world.

How could you expect people in Africa that barely has any water or needs to walk hundreds of miles for the first hospital to be unified with a nation like UK where you can reach to whatever the hell you could possibly want with just one app that brings it to your home? This is why I believe economical gap needs to be closed down which bitcoin could do, between nations so that the world could unify under one umbrella.

If you can make sure that richest nations and poorest nations have only minimal differences between them, it means the whole world will be living together a lot easier.

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Quote from: ultrloa on October 31, 2020, 04:21:16 AM

There's no something unity in terms of economic talks and other legalisation of certain things so provably this unity regarding on usage of cryptocurrency will not come true since for sure their are conflict of interest will happen which some of the other country will counter the spread of it in some parts of the world, We see China creates digital yuan and provably other will follow for their own benefits.

Bitcoin would only make us united when it comes to using it as a payment system as all our transactions will meet in be listed in one blockchain, but in terms of economic unity or legislation, that's another thing, whether we like it or not, there are countries who don't agree with each other.

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There's no something unity in terms of economic talks and other legalisation of certain things so provably this unity regarding on usage of cryptocurrency will not come true since for sure their are conflict of interest will happen which some of the other country will counter the spread of it in some parts of the world, We see China creates digital yuan and provably other will follow for their own benefits.

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My dear, your dreams are beautiful, but they remain just dreams, even if bitcoin prevails in the world, it will not be able to prevent theft, injustice and the exploitation of people to each other and will not prevent governments from stealing the goods of their people, there will always be alternative methods ready to steal and circumvent these laws.
Yes, Bitcoin could give some financial freedom to people around the world, but of course it will not be able to fulfill all of their dreams.

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What separates people is not the money or economics or anything else but more about culture, and that culture is growing closer and closer thanks to online world as well and will probably be one unified world in 100 years or so but for now we still have a lot of people with their own culture.

Someone from Mexico and someone from Pakistan can't be that close, they grew up soooo differently, someone from France and someone from Japan can't live together as a nation, maybe individually sure but not as a nation.

But right now we are in the online world, people talk and they do business and now thanks to crypto they can even hire each other and work together as well. With twitter, netflix, reddit, instagram and many other stuff we have so much more common and talk a lot more, so kids who are 10-15 year old today grow to be a lot more similar around the world than their parents were at their age across nations.

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

And this is the future I dream of.

And this would remain as a dream yet bitcoin isnt really that the thing that will make those things that you do hope for.Its just a digital money that do serve its right purpose
but it wont really be cutting out those sad reality that we are facing when it comes to wars, inequality etc. Dont think up too much even though this is a revolutionary stuff
but doesnt mean that it can solve out global problems.As long government do exist then dont expect for such peace and also about poverty? It wont really be solving
out this big problem. Just accept and dont anticipate or hope too much.

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Bitcoin could definitely fix corruption, the whole idea of blockchain technology is to be able to see the movements and have a big ledger that everyone can follow.

Obviously when you live in a world where politicians want to be a dictator so much that it actually gains them votes from their supporters when they say so, which means you can have the greatest politician in the world come down from the top, put blockchain into every single cent of spending in the entire government and all of its branches and everything in order to see how taxes are spent and where it came from and where it went to, and end corruption because nobody could steal 1 cent of tax, but at the same time next guy could be a dictator lover and come in and just scrap all of that and there is nothing we can do. We need more permanent solution to help the world with crypto, something beyond what evil people can reach to.

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I do not expect such things from neither bitcoin nor any cryptocurrency.
Bitcoin is just an alternative money. It is decentralized but it doesn't mean poor people will be able to have it. It doesn't mean it will save people from hunger.

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Quote from: Genemind on October 29, 2020, 02:42:14 AM

Bitcoin is not created for that purpose and it will never solve corruption, poverty, and all the current problems we are facing economically and globally. Bitcoin is sometimes used for money laundering, theft, scam, and other illegal activities. However, crypto can be used in a good way, there are certain projects, platforms, companies, or even individuals that use crypto to do charity works to help other people in need. There are a lot of ways we can use crypto to lend a hand to other people, but it will never be a solution to corruption, war and poverty.

There's a chance that Bitcoin solves corruption especially on the government expenses. If the government implement the used of Bitcoin for there budget. All transaction will be transparent to the public and it will be very hard for them to do corruption because any shady movement will raise an attention to the public same as whale doing a huge transaction of bitcoin.

Bitcoin particularly blockchain can give a huge impact on our current financial system. It will not solve poverty but it will improve our future finance system.

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I do not believe that 75% of the people are hungry or starving, I believe we do have a problem where there are nations who spend so much money on food that food companies create excess food "just in case it gets sold" while there are nations that do not have food at all, that stark contrast is obviously bad and I would rather see that go away, no nation in the world should have not enough food, our earth is enough to provide for everyone around the world, it has enough water as well but we need to keep working on it, Africa for example lacks a lot of water but when you drill for water you get it, which means if we spend tens of billions of dollars even more coming from all around the world we could make Africa not need water as well. However the number is definitely not 75% at all.

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Bitcoin is not created for that purpose and it will never solve corruption, poverty, and all the current problems we are facing economically and globally. Bitcoin is sometimes used for money laundering, theft, scam, and other illegal activities. However, crypto can be used in a good way, there are certain projects, platforms, companies, or even individuals that use crypto to do charity works to help other people in need. There are a lot of ways we can use crypto to lend a hand to other people, but it will never be a solution to corruption, war and poverty.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 23, 2020, 01:42:40 PM

We can make a product that may produce financial assistance and can make positive views on the Bitcoin Peace movement and an example is this clothing line that I see on Amazon can make a great impact on doing so,

I think we can not really use Bitcoin directly as a sign for peace but we can sure use it for peace or to produce a peaceful setup to start peace and I think this T-shirt can have a start in putting it to a head start, well that is just a suggestion.

Interesting stuff and T-Shirt with a logo and meaningful words on it will go a long way, we can start a lot of projects that will mean good will for Bitcoin there are donation widget that accept Bitcoin, the possibility is endless and the fact that Bitcoin has unite us regardless of color, beliefs and religions is already a big thing.

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It's people who will unite the world and not a tool.
Bitcoin is simply a currency that can be used for every transaction that you want. Just like USD but upgraded. Way upgraded.

Even with a huge amount of people supporting it, there is no way a united world will come true if no one will step up.
It will be scary if suddenly Bitcoin will have its own intellect to unite us.
That just proves we are monkeys or worse. Grin

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its impossible for all to unite by the help of a currency or btc . sure btc isnt own by one country and it can be use internationally but thats it , there is no further big impact to the government to make peace and to end war , etc . they need more than money but they want power or to acquire the nation of others but we do all dislike wars , so many lives have lost because of it and theres also curroption happening to some governments , this makes people become more poorer . it will be a dream if all those bad things dissapear

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What you ask is very difficult, because Bitcoin also represents money, and to obtain money you have to work, I know that there are many problems in the world, however Bitcoin does its part, it is the only way to have money without third party control Apart from that, the majority of governments disagree because they cannot strangle them through debt, the use that is given to Bitcoin will depend on its holders. There will always be a way that you can use it for better or for worse.

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Bitcoin can't unite the world, as an economical currency it is not as advanced as it could be in order to unite the whole world together, you do realize how much money exchanges hand every single day in the world right?

Multiple counts over bitcoins transactions and I mean the difference is as much as a sprinkle of water versus a tsunami level, which means if we are having trouble with bitcoin transactions and speeds and costs right now, that means it would be even worse if we ended up with a lot more, hence why I believe it is quite important that we should focus on not becoming a united world under bitcoin, but united world under stablecoins of our nations. If every nation had their own stablecoin, we would have been a lot better off right now compared to fiat currency.

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

75% of the people in the world are hungry and dying. Or homeless.

Where did you pull this ridiculous number from?

Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

I hope that one day Bitcoin will be able to cut off the hands of the great powers from many thefts.

Bitcoin is just a form of money, it's not a solution to world's problems. Some people like to compare it to gold, so let's ask ourselves, did gold stop wars, removed poverty, cured diseases, etc.? I think the answer is obvious.

Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

And only then can we prove to the world that Bitcoin was created to serve the people.

No one needs to prove anything to anyone. You either use Bitcoin or you don't.

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I feel sorry that some people are expecting too much from Bitcoin. They are attributing to Bitcoin the responsibility to somehow level the playing field. They are expecting Bitcoin to help the poor, to somehow redistribute wealth, etc. I'm sorry to tell you and somehow burst your bubble but Bitcoin cannot do that. Bitcoin is not here to make this world a paradise.

Of course, Bitcoin is making this world a little better but that's limited to our monetary system, our fiat financial system. Outside of it, I doubt Bitcoin can do much. Bitcoin cannot give money to a father who cannot feed his children. Bitcoin cannot help the dying. It cannot stop the war.

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

I would like to make bitcoin a symbol of peace.

Do you think bitcoin can bring that unification and peace? I don't think it will happen. One currency system is not going to work, it will cause more acrimony and domination in the world. World peace has never been even in the past, there have been wars, expedition and conquest by different emperors in the old times. So we can't achieve that now.

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Quote from: milewilda on October 23, 2020, 01:29:48 PM

Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

And this is the future I dream of.

And the future that you're dreaming of will always be a dream and theres no way for it to happen. Bitcoin's existence isnt really intended to solve out global problems.
This is a digital currency which is solely create for that p2p transaction without 3rd party intervention. There might be some factors that will really be affected
by means centralization but doesnt mean that it will completely give out that disruption.Just face up on whats the reality because equality wont really
happen on this world.

I read this sentence in a book that said: (Do not give up on your dreams)
And this sentence may have a deep meaning.
It is true that bitcoin is for trading, but advertising and humanitarian aid can increase its popularity.
And this in itself can show that Bitcoin is a supporter of humanity.

Who wouldn't want a united world? But reality is different though, we have seen this throughout mankind's history, we always need to have some balance and as much as government are trying to somewhat foster better cooperation, I will say that it won't happen.

So it's bitcoin going to be the bridge? No, everyone has it's intention why they get into crypto in the first first, but believed 99% will say that it has nothing to do with world peace or unite the world.

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Quote from: palle11 on October 23, 2020, 03:53:16 PM

I will look in the area of bitcoin as investment to help people escape from poverty. We can't doubt it that investing in bitcoin at the right timing is possible to see you

No. This should not be the mindset of someone. Bitcoin will not lift you from poverty. The profit is not even assured in the firstplace so how come it would be a way to be rich? Profit is indeed big especially whenever the market value is in green marks but there is no certainty to its occurence, keep in mind that there is this volatility which is in nature of not only Bitcoin's market value but also other cryptos' price I oppose to this idea because I am enough with people selling their house just to invest and out of frustrations. Any form of investment involves risk and that is enough to not fully rely on it to a wealthy life.

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

And send some of the profits of the people every month to the poor and war-torn.

This is good but could lead to unexpected result. This will only teach laziness to those people who are in the poverty level. It's okay and need to give them aide but to say that you'll be sending them monthly profits, not all of them can cultivate the amount you'll distribute.

Others will think that it's going to be a stimulus check to them which will make them think that it's no longer needed for them to work. We're symphatizing with them but that action has been seen some problems in the long run.

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something that may be very noble to listen to but to be used as a guide so that it can be carried out is certainly very difficult to implement. unifying perceptions about bitcoin alone can differ across countries how to go about one more guideline.
so that what has been running so far is at least good, just introduce more people who want to use it so that maybe regionally it can be realized like the information the European Union will make.

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BTC is a digital currency made only for the purpose of transaction without third-party involvement, although it's not so much easy to have a unique currency across the globe. Yes BTC has been hot topic everywhere but making it United is impossible because we are already divided in the name of nation, mutual understanding across every nation is quite impossible.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 23, 2020, 01:42:40 PM

We can make a product that may produce financial assistance and can make positive views on the Bitcoin Peace movement and an example is this clothing line that I see on Amazon can make a great impact on doing so,

I think we can not really use Bitcoin directly as a sign for peace but we can sure use it for peace or to produce a peaceful setup to start peace and I think this T-shirt can have a start in putting it to a head start, well that is just a suggestion.

By the way, I like the idea of designing a t-shirt and sell it on Amazon. That can give the customer an eye to take a look at that t-shirt, especially if we can give them a cheap price or discount. The customer would love to buy a discount product, and sometimes, they will buy a simple product at a cheap price. That can be the way to introduce bitcoin to Amazon's customers, and if they like the product, they will buy more with a big discount.

But still, to have a united world with bitcoin is not easy, especially if that comes from the government as we know that the government doesn't like something that they can't control. But if many people want to use bitcoin, and they use bitcoin in their daily lives, I think sooner or later, the government will allow people to use bitcoin. They will integrate with their payment system because now, people can pay something using digital money from their mobile phones. So that can be a sign if the government is concerned with the growth of technology, making people have an easy way to pay.

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Nah, it won't happened, and BTC wasn't design to solved wealth inequality. Of course, countries like Venezuela or Zimbabwe can used it to help them survived because of the worsening troubles in their country. But bitcoin to cut off the hands on corrupt governments? It's not gonna happen, sorry to burst the bubble.

And I think we should be moving away from the notion that bitcoin is a magic bean, it can't even be a world currency because the old and traditional financial systems won't allow it. Bitcoin can be a hedge, can be a store of value, investment asset, but it will not solve every human problem.

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Quote from: palle11 on October 23, 2020, 03:53:16 PM

I will look in the area of bitcoin as investment to help people escape from poverty.

That's a wrong mentality, bitcoin main purpose was not an investment, it's a universal currency that is useful without a 3rd party, the way to help the people is to give them access on bitcoin so they will not suffer from sanctions of our big countries which would result to bringing down the value of their currency.

Quote from: palle11 on October 23, 2020, 03:53:16 PM

We can't doubt it that investing in bitcoin at the right timing is possible to see you

I won't say your answer is wrong, but it's not the main thing, you can't make everyone to invest and expect to be profitable.

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Bitcoin is developed for a specific reason, now it has been getting served in multiple ways. For the same we can't think of making it a source for an entirely different need which isn't possible with bitcoin. Already in our forum similar discussion took place about the single currency system.

No countries will agree on the single currency system, because every country will try to have their own identity. United World through bitcoin isn't a possible thing, but universal payment system throughout the world is possible through it.

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I will look in the area of bitcoin as investment to help people escape from poverty. We can't doubt it that investing in bitcoin at the right timing is possible to see you

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We can make a product that may produce financial assistance and can make positive views on the Bitcoin Peace movement and an example is this clothing line that I see on Amazon can make a great impact on doing so,

I think we can not really use Bitcoin directly as a sign for peace but we can sure use it for peace or to produce a peaceful setup to start peace and I think this T-shirt can have a start in putting it to a head start, well that is just a suggestion.

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Quote from: mr_ROBOTT on October 23, 2020, 09:51:27 AM

And this is the future I dream of.

And the future that you're dreaming of will always be a dream and theres no way for it to happen. Bitcoin's existence isnt really intended to solve out global problems.
This is a digital currency which is solely create for that p2p transaction without 3rd party intervention. There might be some factors that will really be affected
by means centralization but doesnt mean that it will completely give out that disruption.Just face up on whats the reality because equality wont really
happen on this world.

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I don't think bitcoin was exclusively created for those purposes.
But yes, bitcoin and crypto asks for a solid consensus among the stakeholders. It do promotes decentralization and democracy.
It promotes free flow of ideas. And where there is reasonable interaction and people believe in themselves and not on fake powers, the world could be one.
When people realizes what's their need and what they need to do for the future, they'll break all barriers and unite as one.
A free society with no central governance, transparency and accountability in every sector. No middlemen who feeds on the hard work of others. No people selling lies and propaganda. Just people who are paid for their work.

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I would like to make bitcoin a symbol of peace.
Look at the newspapers. Governments are always at war and stealing from each other.
There are several people in the world who have all the affairs of the world in their hands.
Who is God?
These people consider themselves the god of the world and no one knows them.

Now let's look the other way.

War-torn and hungry boys and girls
A father without money to feed his children
75% of the people in the world are hungry and dying. Or homeless.
What is the reason for this?
Sanctions and wars and thousands of other policies that not only you and I but also our fathers do not understand and we are toys.
And by working not only do we not work for ourselves but we are raising money for them.
But what can be done?
I hope that one day Bitcoin will be able to cut off the hands of the great powers from many thefts.
And send some of the profits of the people every month to the poor and war-torn.
And then there's one thing that holds governments together, and that is bitcoin.
And only then can we prove to the world that Bitcoin was created to serve the people.

And this is the future I dream of.

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