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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

This question has been discussed many times before,but I'll answer it again.
1.When all the HODLers stop holding their bitcoins and sell them.The price will be reduced due to the increased btc supply,but the volatility will be lower.
2.When all the crypto whales and market manipulators run away from bitcoin.
3.When all business owners offer reversible bitcoin payments.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

You can't, because this is prone to price manipulation and when it is being manipulated the more you fight for it the more you will lose your investment to them. The only thing we can do is just to wait for the price to move as it is.

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Here is the thing, bitcoin is a decentralized currency and no one can control it, it is totally subject to demand and supply,the only party that can effect the price of bitcoin moving up and down is big groups of whales nothing else, and the only way to get a stable price is to eliminate this big groups by splitting them to small once . We will have a stable price when big holders are finish dumping and Bitcoin become in hands of much larger amount pf people that believe more in the coin it self not just in it for the profit .

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We can't do anything to make bitcoin prices more stable. All we can do is hold on to avoid losses for ourselves because of selling low. In this year we need patience.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

It's hard to master about stable bitcoin prices. Because we are not the person who determines the price of Bitcoin. But for me it's better to keep abreast of the development of bitcoin. Because by following developments we will know the price of bitcoin is rising and falling.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

No it can't be done. If its stable then trading bitcoin will be boring and the market will not be as lively as in the last couple of years. Maybe when institutional investors gets it, or perhaps when the ETF is approved but its still debatable. One factor though that the price will not be stable is that this market is based on speculation, meaning its very unpredictable. Perhaps you should embrace the price volatility and make the best out of it, just saying.

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Currencies are not stable, gold is not stable, stocks option too, How do you want to get the Bitcoin price stable? Sure they don't have the same volatility but still... Now you can imagine making Bitcoin based on the USD 1BTC=1$ (like Tether does) but if it's to make a digital currency based on fiat, there is no use to make a digital currency

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bitcoin prices will never be stable, bitcoin prices can rise and fall very quickly. the price of bitcoin is very sensitive to the news circulating, if there is negative news then the price of bitcoin goes down immediately.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

The most important reason for the volatility is trading them so stop trading the bitcoins and you will have more stable price,but still the prices will fluctuate when someone buying or selling the bitcoins in certain amount.Maybe the prices will get stable once the adoption of world people goes to 100%.,at that time price of bitcoin will be stable or maximum and can't move beyond than that.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

I think the only thing that can change or make prices stable is the regulator of bitcoin holders, because we are only runners so I find it difficult if we have to change prices to be stable,

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don't confuse stable price with not having high volatility.

price can not become stable because bitcoin is still growing and that will continue for years. as new people and fresh money come in the price will keep on rising and the FOMO buys will cause bubbles which will then burst and create this roller-coaster like ride to the top.

but the reason for high volatility is different. why should price fall $10 if you sell less than 10BTC on exchanges? (10BTC may seem like a lot to you now if you multiply it by its USD value but considering price was $1000 a year ago and there are a lot of people with that much bitcoin you can see it is not really that much.) the reason is because exchanges aren't trusted. so people tend to not leave anything on them so there are less open orders, less resistance hence easier to drop and as a result we have higher volatility.
this can easily be solved if we start having much more trusted exchanges where people feel safer to leave open orders as traders do on any other market!

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

Decentralized bitcoin can never be stable. While its price depends on the supply-demand ratio in the market, it will constantly have high volatility. And the higher it will grow in price, the higher will be its volatility and the more risky it will be to invest. This can not be changed if no one maintains its price. Therefore, decentralized crypto currency will always be volatile in price, only centralized crypto currency has the ability to be more or less stable in price.

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I do not think that btc can be stabilized, it will remain volatile but keeping in mind the increasing mining difficulty and limited supply one thing is for sure and that is btc will become very expensive in a few years time.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

The high volatility of bitcoin is one of the non-consumable characteristics of bitcoin as a form of decentralized crypto currency. Since the price of a decentralized crypto currency is not supported by anyone and is formed only on the basis of a supply-demand relationship that is never constant, high bitcoin volatility will always be manifested. Moreover, the higher the bitcoin price will be, the greater volatility it will have.
To bitcoin was stable, you need to change its decentralized nature, but this should not be done, since it will be a completely different bitcoin.

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Quote from: Thirdspace on July 31, 2018, 09:16:00 AM

It's sad that the first intelligent reply here came so far down on the page, but you nailed it. I would also like to point out to anyone who actually reads my reply that very few people (especially the shitposters here) want bitcoin to be stable. When bitcoin was stuck at $420 a couple years back, people were constantly complaining about how it was 'dead' and making predictions about where it was headed.

People make money with volatility, and it's hard to make money by just owning bitcoin when the price isn't moving. Sure, you could trade altcoins, but a lot of them move in lockstep with bitcoin. What I'd like to see is a slow but consistent rise, and we've seen that this is possible. Unfortunately when the price starts rising, people pile in and buy and therefore drive the price up faster than it should go. Same thing happens when the price drops. In either case, I'm not all for stability. I don't think bitcoin is going to succeed as a currency, but I do think it will as a vehicle for investment.

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Bitcoin won't stabilize until the market is mature. We're talking billions of users and trillions in market cap, when someone dumping $100 million on an exchange all at once doesn't cause a crash. We're probably a decade out from having a fairly stable Bitcoin price. Probably will start to stabilize once the price is 30x-50x higher than it is now.

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Quote from: Thirdspace on July 31, 2018, 09:16:00 AM

long period of stable bitcoin price? probably never... for short term 2-3 months perhaps possible
but to have bitcoin price somewhat stable like foreign exchange rate is very hard to achieve
even after all 21M BTC has been mined, I doubt bitcoin price will ever be stable

Yes, that is true, bitcoin prices will not be able to stabilize even 2-3 months is a long time. I feel that so far the price of bitcoin can be stable only lasts for a few days or 1-2 weeks. So to make bitcoin prices more stable for a long time I don't think it will be possible.

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You can short BTC on a futures contract, and then you have no change in the market value of your BTC, but it doesn't look very smart at the moment, because the market is not very stable at the moment.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

We cannot make the price of bitcoin stable single handedly but we can play our part by avoiding the panic selling and stick to an agenda that we will not sell it during the slightest price dumps as the panic selling causes more damage to bitcoin than any other factors.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

Bitcoin will need tail emission and more use case as right now. That will make it stable. Currently supply halve every 4 years and that is huge pressure on the supply that cant fulfill demand and price jumps like a rocket ready to depart on Moon.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

It will be stable when it matures enough as an asset, and that means global adoption and much bigger market cap, as well as trust of people in the bitcoin ecosystem, utility and value that it has.

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long period of stable bitcoin price? probably never... for short term 2-3 months perhaps possible
but to have bitcoin price somewhat stable like foreign exchange rate is very hard to achieve
even after all 21M BTC has been mined, I doubt bitcoin price will ever be stable

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if the problem to stabilize the bitcoin price I know less but if the problem is determined I know a little price. Let us take an example of how the price of an object is determined - we can use oranges as a metaphor. What is the price of oranges?

The answer: depends. The first point of determining the price of oranges is by two things: what price is desired by the person who sells it, and what price is wanted by the person who bought it. If John wants to sell oranges for Rp 3,000, - and Sarah only wants to pay Rp 2,000, - then the deal does not happen. But if they agree with a certain price, for example Rp 2,500, - then the transaction occurs. In the summer, more people want to buy oranges, so the price of oranges rose. Or if there is a flood so the supply of oranges is reduced, but many people want to buy oranges, then the price will also rise.

Bitcoin and other currencies are slightly different from oranges because they are 'homogeneous' - one dollar identical to another dollar, like Bitcoin identical to other Bitcoin. Oranges, on the other hand, may differ depending on size and quality. In other words, it is easier to determine the price of Bitcoin or currency because of its identical properties.

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it is not depend on us it is depend on market sometime very high and some time low the people sell bitcoin so price low and other time it will high so bitcoin price is not stable.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 31, 2018, 08:35:25 AM

Once Bitcoin becomes more expensive or when the market cap of Bitcoin is more than a trillion that's the time the prices will become stable. It'll be harder for the prices to quickly move at that point because clearing buy and sell orders would take longer than before. Buying more Bitcoin in would slightly help because this drives the price up and don't forget to buy what you can only afford because you have to respect the risks in crypto.

I totally aggree. The only reason why gold and big stocks are more stable is beacuse their market cap is uncomparibly higher. Therefore it is much harder or almost impossible to manipulate those. It can be influenced slightly with a sh"t load of money but not that much that it worth the risk for a huge investor.

Sadly if you have enough money (basically just a couple of million USD) than you can easily generate a 5-10% move in most altcoins. If you are a true whale you can manipulate BTC under a few minutes to each direction.

Bottom line is we need much higher marketcap. As ralle14 said around a trillion. Even then it will be possible to influence price but a much higher risk will be associated for the whale.

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Quote from: redtrus55 on July 31, 2018, 08:14:00 AM

How can we be done so that bitcoin prices become more stable?

Actually, there's nothing to do in the price stability only the system itself can fix it. However, we can't ever predict exactly what will be the value of it until the present time comes. Maybe it can gives the good effects to it when we are keep supporting and patronizing it so it may become much consistent in the market and at the same time there's a possibility that it can produce much better movements. But just a simple reminder that bitcoin value is form in a volatility way therefore the value of it is always fluctuating and typically unstable.

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Once Bitcoin becomes more expensive or when the market cap of Bitcoin is more than a trillion that's the time the prices will become stable. It'll be harder for the prices to quickly move at that point because clearing buy and sell orders would take longer than before. Buying more Bitcoin would slightly help because this drives the price up and don't forget to buy what you can only afford because you have to respect the risks in crypto.

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I think we can not do anything other than pray and always look for information / news tentag bitcoin prices, and see the predictions in the views of the observers, I think that's what we can do because the price of the matter that governs not us it is there which sets the market price.

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