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Topic: How to manipulate the market (Read 1445 times)

hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
July 27, 2011, 10:58:01 PM
#7
The thing is... the market always levels out at the median of the peak you've created.

For instance: if the price is $12.50 and you drive it up to $13.50, (12.50 + 13.50)/2 = $13.00 is where the price will land.

Sure you can sell everything you bought from $12.50 to $13.00 as profit, but you lost money on everything from $13.00 to $13.50. So it cancels out.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
July 27, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
#6
I sold half at $14.25 when this happened.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
July 27, 2011, 09:26:42 PM
#5
Its only free money if it actually sparks a sell-off.

Otherwise, the market holds.  

The seller sees this and changes the bet.  Removes the ask and buys back higher.  Big buys in a thin market can start a rally, and panic buying.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
July 27, 2011, 08:57:25 PM
#4
I bought in too high shortly before this recent drop. Thus... I found it annoying.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
July 27, 2011, 08:55:33 PM
#3
If you actually know this is going on it is free money for you, how is that annoying?
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
July 27, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
#2
Yeah, I just spotted that too. Watched it happen live and came to same conclusion as you. Damn annoying.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
July 27, 2011, 08:30:51 PM
#1
Step 1:  Have a lot of USD and a lot of BTC - market price at $13.90
Step 2:  Place an ask order for $150k BTC at $14.25 - build an ask wall
Step 3:  Sell $100k worth of BTC - break the bid wall
Step 4:  Hope for a sell-off
Step 5:  buy them back cheaper!

Pretty clear there's some big players now (as opposed to the early days).  It now takes $100k to move the market (used to take $10k).

When the market is bearish and thin, its easier to manipulate down (spark panic selling).  When the market is thin and bullish, easier to manipulate up (spark panic buying).
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