How to protect the market and the investors from manipulations of the whales ?

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Quote from: Simayi on January 01, 2019, 01:19:58 PM

Although most of us hate whales, the existence of whales is beneficial to the entire market. It is precisely because of the existence of whales that this market is full of “vigor”, otherwise we are only seeing a dead market. Relying solely on investors' transactions does not effectively affect the crypto market.

This is about the amount of investment they have in the crypto market. Whales have huge amount of investment made in the crypto and this is the due to the size of their investment that they can exercise their power in the market.

This could be out to an end if a bigger population of people adopts and shifts to cryptocurrency which would be enough to neutralize the impact of whales’ decisions of investment of withdrawal.

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your view is very careful, well yeah they don't stay in the same place. not just one person but a group that has cooperation to make a profit, whales are categorized as misleading but without the price of bitcoin not as high this. I think now the stability of prices above 3000 is a pretty high value besides altcoin also gets a good grades at this time not hard decreased

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No one has the complete power on the decentralized cryptocurrency market, any whales who manipulate the price might own big amount of bitcoins or specific dumping that day. If you own such cons even you can do that.
No one stop move by any individuals. I always recommend to hodl the cryptos for long term. If not today even after few months you will be able to find the big growth in the market and that time it will be helpful.

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Quote from: Landak on March 11, 2019, 01:09:13 PM

The market cannot be protected from whale manipulation, and my opinion is to protect investors, I think it can be done but starting with themselves if conscious investors are all just manipulations they must stay relaxed with everything that happens or just follow fake whales to make a profit.

Unfortunately, whales - the largest market players, will always dominate. This situation is in many markets, not only in the cryptocurrency market.

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Quote from: sudeshkumar on January 01, 2019, 08:53:04 AM

It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

You shouldn't protect the market because then it will stop to be so. Whales are not bad for the market because they are the ones who can start a new bull run and who made pumps in the past. If there were no whales Bitcoin would have never reached the highs that he did. For surely manipulation is not a good thing but without it you can be witnessing flat market for a long-long period of time...

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The market cannot be protected from whale manipulation, and my opinion is to protect investors, I think it can be done but starting with themselves if conscious investors are all just manipulations they must stay relaxed with everything that happens or just follow fake whales to make a profit.

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I think it's difficult, those who have large funds can manipulate the market. so investors can only follow them, so it's impossible to protect it.

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With the nature of crypto and crypto transactions, it's nearly impossible to save it from manipulations by any individuals or company.
The only solution is self awareness of every investors. Investors could use the change in price for profit but never fall for an artificial move.

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you can't protect people from something they don't want any protection from!

what you are calling "manipulation" is the only reason 90% of the altcoins are still alive and that is the only reason why every single trader is still around in this market otherwise if there were no pump and dumps then nobody would ever bother with the high risks of shitcoins to even enter the market in first place. it is that pumps and the possible huge profit that brings them here.
you don't want to "protect" them, you want to take that profit away from them.

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Of course, and you thought ordinary people rule this market. Of course the whales decide who will earn today and who will lose everything.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 01, 2019, 01:22:29 PM

The only way save the crypto market is to decrease the holding from the whales and it will happen only when the main stream adoption happening at the time the dilution level of crypto holding will be spreaded.

Well, the common users would only be able to neutralize the impact of the whales on the market if many and many people invest and own these coins. One individual will then not be able to disturb the whole market.

In a scenario when one man owns or hodl a large number of coins is like a monopoly which all of us knows very well is a price maker and have the power to determine the quantity supplied as well.

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I think ultimately, the people that can really restrict the people performing such activities is the Cryptocurrency Exchange because obviously they would not be blessed to manipulate the prices if they cannot do it in an exchange but the Exchanges tend to turn a blind eye because such activities ultimately increases their volume and makes them look good in CMC.

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I don't think there is any method one can use in preventing whales from the crypto trading platform since this is free market and everyone is accepted whether you have huge amount of money or you have little.
I can just advise us to be careful of the coin we buy in the market, check the trade volume of any coin you want to purchase because it is very hard for a whale to manipulate a coin with large trading volume.

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I do not think there is a way to protect investors from market manipulations
Except you use a trading bot that has a cash out or panic withdraw settings

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Quote from: AgentZero23 on January 06, 2019, 04:34:39 PM

You can't protect anyone from the volatility of the crypto market. Whales have the influence to manipulate the market and we can't do about it. They hold millions of dollars worth of digital assets. The only thing we can do is to be smart in our investment and not to be greedy.

One way or another, each cryptocurrency user reacts negatively to dramatic changes in the cryptocurrency market. But I have a negative attitude to those moments when, after the completion of an ico company, many start selling coins and thus harm the project.

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You can't protect anyone from the volatility of the crypto market. Whales have the influence to manipulate the market and we can't do about it. They hold millions of dollars worth of digital assets. The only thing we can do is to be smart in our investment and not to be greedy.

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As long as there is no way to back crypto-assets with real value, we'll always see manipulation in the price.. But, the good news is with new stablecoins projects, market manipulation can be lower. So, if the cryptocurrency is supported by fiat, or precious metals like in the current Gigzi project, whales can't really play a big role in the market. Talking about the Gigzi platform, using a treasury to store precious metals equivalent to the crypto-assets in circulation is a good step towards less manipulation ...

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I am able to protect myself by simply investing only into major coins and I am always targeting only in long-term. I guess anyone who are all following this principles will be able to escape from the market manipulators. Those crypto investors are suffering who are investing into random coins and looking for short-term benefits. But, we need to understand that crypto investments are highly profitable in long-term only.

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a market is a place for everyone including the Pope. It is not about protecting what is agreed and not. but of course about the transfer that includes a reasonable strategy to do because still exempt as long as it still can have big results.

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It will be difficult to want to protect crypto market and investors from whales because whales are not just in crypto,they are everywhere.

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The price of the cryptocurrency market is greatly affected by human factors, and individuals alone cannot control the changes in this market.

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Quote from: sudeshkumar on January 01, 2019, 08:53:04 AM

It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

no one can stop anyone with bags of money to manipulate the market it is the history that anyone with the great powers abuse the fragile one. whales manipulate the markets to earn the profits because of their holdings

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The only way save the crypto market is to decrease the holding from the whales and it will happen only when the main stream adoption happening at the time the dilution level of crypto holding will be spreaded.

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Although most of us hate whales, the existence of whales is beneficial to the entire market. It is precisely because of the existence of whales that this market is full of “vigor”, otherwise we are only seeing a dead market. Relying solely on investors' transactions does not effectively affect the crypto market.

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There will always be whales in ANY market who will dominate.
This is a mere fact of life. Swim with the whales, try not to get eaten and you might grow to be a whale someday is always the game. Grin

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Quote from: sudeshkumar on January 01, 2019, 08:53:04 AM

It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

Basically technology can also capture them, but in this case, crypto which is also accompanied by a blockchain labeled "anonymous transactions" makes it more difficult for us to track it down, or indeed there are insiders playing behind it all. After all, when the market is bearish we cannot blame whales entirely, many are lay people who make prices worse off. Manipulations is only about 60% of all market activity

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In order to protect the crypto market from manipulation of wales new big investors who believe in crypto should be attracted, and untill this happenned they will going on to earn on the increase and after make the market to fall down.

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Come on mate your logic is something out of mind, there's not such stuff like you can keep out the big whales from the market to avoid manipulation, remember these big whales are those who have the capability to PUMP the market as well not only the downfall. Even in this ridiculous market only if the big whales invest in bulk the value will pump else we need to wait, wait, wait...

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I don’t think there is any way to stop the “whales” from manipulating the markets. It goes the same for the traditional investment instruments as well.

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Quote from: sudeshkumar on January 01, 2019, 08:53:04 AM

It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

There are so many ways to protect your own things inside of this decentralize world. You should try to find it yourself because anything could happen.

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the only way is not to be affected by the speculation that exists. but I think, the market needs pump and dump to make investors profitable. without that all traders will never get profit from trading.

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Do you think do you have the ability to protect the market from the whales? it's like you are thinking to protect the economy from the oligarchs. Are you able to produce a better economy than them?

There's no way to stop such manipulations.

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Quote from: sudeshkumar on January 01, 2019, 08:53:04 AM

It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

In this market, I think we all have a certain purpose. We're trying to make a profit. This is true for us, and it is also for whales. That's why we can't criticize anyone. Unless it is acted unethically.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 01, 2019, 09:08:22 AM

There are no such thing as protecting the market and investors from manipulation of whales.
Stocks market, one of the oldest economic market and heavily regulated by government affiliated agencies is still largely affected by manipulation and movements of whales. Crypto market on the other hand is still in its infancy.

Though it is difficult to make such type of protection but measures can be taken like that in stock market there is provision of halting trade of any script which is showing undue rise in prices.

The stock market is a fully regulated market and you can't even compare it with crypto market which made the decentralized as the main thing that will not bring the market into the fully regulated market. know that differences and it may better for you

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I think there is no way to overcome that, we will always enter this vortex. my advice is don't force yourself to stay up late, if you know it's something strange.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 01, 2019, 09:08:22 AM

There are no such thing as protecting the market and investors from manipulation of whales.
Stocks market, one of the oldest economic market and heavily regulated by government affiliated agencies is still largely affected by manipulation and movements of whales. Crypto market on the other hand is still in its infancy.

Yeah, i think whales will continue to do that even if there’s a regulations so there is no way to protect the market from them. In fact we need big investors to help the market up and the benefits of being rich is that, they can easily control the market especially if they own a lot of cryptocurrency. Investors should know how to ride with the whales, we can make money when they make money.

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It's real that human have nature to earn more in short time doing nothing. And if we are not regulated, we seems to go beyond any ethics to earn more than others.
So we need regulations and the only power than can implement it is our local government. So we have reached a position where we need to work along the interest of governments to save cryptocurrency.

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In commodity and stock markets, there are certain rules that prevent whales from manipulating prices. There is even criminal responsibility for such actions. The cryptocurrency market is not regulated at all. Therefore, we see such actions. Moreover, we do not even know the real trading volumes. Exchanges draw us what they want and are themselves part of the manipulators. In such a situation, there will never be predicted prices. Regulation in this market will be perceived as an attempt to take control of the cryptocurrency market by the state and will not be perceived by the community. We're doomed.

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It is impossible to prevent manipulations on the big exchanges because you cannot restrain anyone from trading
It is left to you and i and other traders to be smart quick and active while trading

Don’t expect too much
Don’t expect too less in trading

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This is not a matter of agreeing or not with a point of view, but all we have to realize is that all human beings want to make big profits, so it is only natural that some large investors jump to various markets and they do not settle.

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Quote from: tsaroz on January 01, 2019, 09:08:22 AM

There are no such thing as protecting the market and investors from manipulation of whales.
Stocks market, one of the oldest economic market and heavily regulated by government affiliated agencies is still largely affected by manipulation and movements of whales. Crypto market on the other hand is still in its infancy.

Though it is difficult to make such type of protection but measures can be taken like that in stock market there is provision of halting trade of any script which is showing undue rise in prices.

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There are no such thing as protecting the market and investors from manipulation of whales.
Stocks market, one of the oldest economic market and heavily regulated by government affiliated agencies is still largely affected by manipulation and movements of whales. Crypto market on the other hand is still in its infancy.

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It has been observed several times that the cryptomarket boomed and after a short span of time it started to fall on the grounds with similar intensity .Similar patterns have also been observed in other markets for example the prices of oil touched the peak and nosedived ,share market prices, property prices shoot up and down with same speed .It is not limited up to a one or two commodity but the whole basket of the commodity market is not spared resulting in exploitation of the small investors .In my opinion these big whales jump from one market to another and not stay in one market and earn huge profit .Technology can catch them if these are the same persons or group of persons who are harming the interest of the crypto investors is a matter of study .Do you agree with my point of view.

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