How to use a 24 words seed phrase in Electrum Android Version?

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Quote from: Lucius on January 06, 2025, 09:05:31 AM

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Quote from: ? on January 07, 2025, 05:48:22 AM

The Idea is to use Electrum only for bitcoins and leave other coins on Trust Wallet

Use one wallet for Bitcoin storage and another wallet for altcoins is a good practice, but there is one point you missed here.

Trust wallet is not a good wallet to use, reason is Trust wallet is close source. You can try other altcoin wallets that are open source.
https://walletscrutiny.com/?platform=allPlatforms&page=0&query-string=Trust

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Quote from: ? on January 07, 2025, 04:00:36 PM

Thanks for your tips.
Finally, for bitocoins, I am using Electrum in a pendrive, containing my private keys (using a 24 words seed). On the smarphone I configured a watch only electrum just importing the master public key.
For few amount of altcoins I am continuing using Trust Wallet

Maybe I misunderstood, but seed words should always be offline - whether it's writing them down on paper, engraving them on a metal plate, or something similar. Any way of storing them where they can be exposed to online threats is not good.

As for a watch-only wallet, that's a good idea - because if you just want to have insight into your transactions and generate new addresses, you don't need anything more than that.

Quote from: ? on January 07, 2025, 04:00:36 PM

I think that Electrum, if used correctly, is comparable with an hw wallet, don't you think? I mean, a pen drive used only on non connected device, a watch only wallet on smartphone.
Thanks again

Electrum is open source and as such can be considered secure if used correctly. The safest way is to use it as a so-called cold wallet - which means you generated such a wallet on an offline device that has no communication with the internet - and on the other hand you have a watch-only wallet with which you can create a transaction, and then transfer it via a USB stick, QR code or SD card to an offline device where you have Electrum with which you can sign such a transaction, and then return it to the watch-only wallet and broadcast.

This procedure is described here in a very simple way -> https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html

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Quote from: Lucius on January 07, 2025, 07:12:26 AM

Quote from: ? on January 07, 2025, 05:48:22 AM

The Idea is to use Electrum only for bitcoins and leave other coins on Trust Wallet
Thanks for your reply

It makes sense - although if you are thinking of getting more serious with cryptocurrencies and investing larger amounts of money, I would recommend you to think about buying a hardware wallet. I will not give any recommendations because we have a board dedicated to this topic on the forum, so you can read a lot and decide if you need such a device and which would be the best for you.

Otherwise, crypto wallets on smartphones are not something that is recommended for long-term storage, but we use them mainly as hot wallets for storing smaller amounts.

Thanks for your tips.
Finally, for bitocoins, I am using Electrum in a pendrive, containing my private keys (using a 24 words seed). On the smarphone I configured a watch only electrum just importing the master public key.
For few amount of altcoins I am continuing using Trust Wallet

I think that Electrum, if used correctly, is comparable with an hw wallet, don't you think? I mean, a pen drive used only on non connected device, a watch only wallet on smartphone.

Thanks again

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Quote from: ? on January 07, 2025, 05:48:22 AM

The Idea is to use Electrum only for bitcoins and leave other coins on Trust Wallet
Thanks for your reply

It makes sense - although if you are thinking of getting more serious with cryptocurrencies and investing larger amounts of money, I would recommend you to think about buying a hardware wallet. I will not give any recommendations because we have a board dedicated to this topic on the forum, so you can read a lot and decide if you need such a device and which would be the best for you.

Otherwise, crypto wallets on smartphones are not something that is recommended for long-term storage, but we use them mainly as hot wallets for storing smaller amounts.

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Quote from: Lucius on January 06, 2025, 09:05:31 AM

Quote from: ? on January 03, 2025, 06:32:55 AM

Thank you all guys. I will try soon

I decided to use electrum instead of trust wallet

I would say it's a good choice - I haven't used Trust wallet much, but the thing is do you need a wallet just for Bitcoin or do you want a multicurrency wallet? One small note - if you generate a wallet (seed words) on a computer, and use the same seed to create the same wallet in the mobile version of Electrum, make sure that you are using the official version of Electrum and that you have a clean computer from viruses/malware.

What I want to warn you about is that you are exposed to a double risk if you generate a seed on one device and use it on another.

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The Idea is to use Electrum only for bitcoins and leave other coins on Trust Wallet
Thanks for your reply

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Quote from: ? on January 03, 2025, 06:32:55 AM

Thank you all guys. I will try soon

I decided to use electrum instead of trust wallet

I would say it's a good choice - I haven't used Trust wallet much, but the thing is do you need a wallet just for Bitcoin or do you want a multicurrency wallet? One small note - if you generate a wallet (seed words) on a computer, and use the same seed to create the same wallet in the mobile version of Electrum, make sure that you are using the official version of Electrum and that you have a clean computer from viruses/malware.

What I want to warn you about is that you are exposed to a double risk if you generate a seed on one device and use it on another.

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Quote from: jubalix on January 03, 2025, 07:01:21 AM

whats the difference between make_seed(nbits=256) and make_seed(256)

should we do seed = make_seed(nbits=128, language='english', type='segwit')

to avoid any errors or security issues?

If you want to specify the seed type, you should use: seed_type="seed_type"

Although it isn't very useful, since the command already generates segwit type seeds by default, but if for some reason you want to generate electrum legacy seeds, use:

Code:

make_seed(128, seed_type="standard")

Language need not apply.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on January 04, 2025, 09:59:52 AM

This is just optional if you are looking for alternative you can also generate 24 seed phrase using ianColeman tool but for safety you need to run iancoleman tool offline on separate device.

It's good to use iancoleman (offline on an airgapped device) if you want to derive your keys from your seed phrase, but since it generates the seed phrase through javaScript I would never recommend using iancoleman for generating a seed phrase.

For more information on why it's not a good idea to use JavaScript for generating a wallet, click here and read gmaxwell's explanation.

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Quote from: ? on January 03, 2025, 06:32:55 AM

Thank you all guys. I will try soon

I decided to use electrum instead of trust wallet

This is just optional if you are looking for alternative you can also generate 24 seed phrase using ianColeman tool but for safety you need to run iancoleman tool offline on separate device.

Another option is to use a hardware wallet such as trezor, which has options for generating 12, 18, or 24 seed phrases.
Using hardware wallet you can connect it to Electrum as watch-only wallet.

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Quote from: jubalix on January 03, 2025, 07:01:21 AM

whats the difference between make_seed(nbits=256) and make_seed(256)

There is no difference.
In make_seed(nbits=x), you specify the number of bits using a keyword argumant and in make_seed(x), you specify the number of bits using a positional argument.

Quote from: jubalix on January 03, 2025, 07:01:21 AM

should we do seed = make_seed(nbits=128, language='english', type='segwit')

nbits, language and type are all optional arguments and you don't have to pass them to the make_seed function.

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Quote from: Abdussamad on January 03, 2025, 05:36:29 AM

You will need to use electrum on a pc or mac in order to generate a 24 word seed. Then you can restore from seed in android. So download electrum from electrum.org on a PC or mac and then go to view menu > check console. Switch to console tab and click on the warning to make it go away. Then paste in the following command there:

Code:

make_seed(nbits=256)

Press enter and it should spit out a 24 word seed.

whats the difference between make_seed(nbits=256) and make_seed(256)

should we do seed = make_seed(nbits=128, language='english', type='segwit')

to avoid any errors or security issues?

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Thank you all guys. I will try soon

I decided to use electrum instead of trust wallet

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You will need to use electrum on a pc or mac in order to generate a 24 word seed. Then you can restore from seed in android. So download electrum from electrum.org on a PC or mac and then go to view menu > check console. Switch to console tab and click on the warning to make it go away. Then paste in the following command there:

Code:

make_seed(nbits=256)

Press enter and it should spit out a 24 word seed.

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It is possible on desktop Electrum using a command but not possible on Android Electrum. Just as Frankolala posted already, 12 words seed phrase is secure.

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Quote from: ? on January 03, 2025, 05:22:00 AM

I tried to install the android version and during the setup it only allow to create a seed phrase with 12 words. Is it possible to use a 24 words seed phrase insteed?

Electrum wallet is 12 word seed phrase by default and you are not the one to create your seed phrase but electrum does that for you. Since you said it's Andriod version, it means that you should just copy your 12 seed phrase and back it up because it's very safe since itvhas 132bit entropy which is secured enough as 256 bits of bitcoin private keys.

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I tried to install the android version and during the setup it only allow to create a seed phrase with 12 words. Is it possible to use a 24 words seed phrase insteed?

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