Topic: [HOW TO] use vpn to get higher rewards from faucets (Read 3706 times)

Thanks for this post. It is always good to have alternatives to navigate through different ips.

I use a vpn for privacy, and it is blacklisted in many faucets it seem. Perhaps this would do.

No problem man you didn't offend me, and I didn't intend to come across as unfriendly. Big hugs

Like I say, I appreciate your intentions. There are people living in countries where the shrapnel they get from faucets makes a difference to their lives. I think balancing things so you're still making a profit, but able to pay everyone equally is a good way to do it. Balancing it the other way would be interesting too - so the 'good' countries get less - for a lot of us making 500 or 1000 satoshis on a faucet is the difference between 'almost nothing,' and 'slightly less almost nothing' after all.

the vyprVPN i suggested has a free plan.


It's a new email address after 500MB traffic.

And whether it's worth it or not, well that depends.
For some it does, for some it doesn't.

Let me explain: if i visit my own faucet list, twice a day i earn three dollar a week.
I live in the netherlands, good job, wife, house, kiddies, cars. Three dollar means nothing to me.

Yet, someone who lives i a poor country, where 3 usd means a weeks worth of food, it means everything.

So it all depends on who you are, and where you're from.

In all honesty, when i learned bitcoin, i started with 200 satoshi from a faucet, and you have no idea how proud i was.

So for many people it can be a good learning experience.

With regards,

LS.

Informative post but to firstly pay for a VPN then open numerous email addresses just to get a tiny amount of satoshi does not seem worth it.

Correct, my mistake.
But maybe set an ip manually? IP ranges from isp's can be looked up really easy. No DHCP needed.


I don't. I underestimate nobody.
I could say the same about you?


Like i said many times before, usually ip addresses aquired from vpn connections look / are legit. Some might be blacklisted.
It is a matter of trial and error.

Let's assume someone uses cyberghost / openVPN and goes through a faucet list of 100 entries.
Some clicks won't get payed due to blacklisted ip addresses or some other "red flags", while others might,
depending on the ad-provider, and obviously the ip address.
(Is it called that ad-provider? I mean, ads not from adsense.)

Simply put, if i make a vpn connection with a good friend of mine's computer, the ip is legit.
Same can be true for connections across the world.


Anyway,

In the end, what counts is that users can rely on the information of the forum.
I explained my / our vision and practices. You very politely explained what you think might not be completely correct.

All readers of the posts can make of this what they want. They can test and try both our arguments as they
are very well and clear explained.

Obviously, anyone having a question about this or that can reply here, and i will be happy to answer.
Anyone who disagrees, please explain what "you" think is wrong.

Lastly,

i hope i didn't offend you, LosingAlpha. If i did, then i want to apologize for this.
This thread is becoming unfriendly, and this was never my intention.
I am sure it wasn't yours either. So i want to leave it at this, and definately not become someone you dislike, or the other way around.

I want to keep friendly "relationships", whether it be on here, there, at work or outside the milkyway.

With regards,

LS.

DNS doesn't lease IPs. You're talking about DHCP.

You're making a big assumption about my level of knowledge.

It doesn't matter how many hoops you jump through, you're still breaking out at a single endpoint, google doesn't care about tracking that hit back to you as an individual, they just discount any clicks that come from sources that don't look like legit viewers.

Thanks for the appreciation

But it has everything to do with DNS- / name- servers.
Without DNS- / name- servers there is no internet as it currently exists. There would be no ip addresses leased out,
nor will domain names get translated into ip addresses so we can actually visit them.

A vpn connection requests an ip address from a different DNS- / name- server, than the default one, your ISP uses?

So therefore, if the vpn DNS- / name- server is located in china, it will lease out a chinese ip address to you,
so it will look as if you're browsing from china. Also to google.

For example, if i use cyberghost on windows, use a german server, then fire up firefox it goes straight to google.de
hmmmmm.

I get all german ads too. Hmmmmm.


I think people with much more knowledge about internet traffic and ip/tcp packets can't ever change your mind?
I can, and 1000 other people can explain this a zillion times to you, but it's useless.

We can also use vpn -> TOR. Nobody will ever find you.
Let alone if we vpn -> proxy chain via 250 proxies -> TOR. Google can easily be beaten.


With all due respect,

LS.


EDIT:

I asked someone at enigmagroup. Which is co-developer of backtrack / kali linux:
His answer:

A good option is that you might operate your VPN in Tunnel Mode,
sending all communications (including Internet) through the VPN stack.
In this case, when you are on the VPN all DNS would use the VPN's DNS.
This is probably the most secure way since all internal traffic is sure to stay in the VPN.

EDIT2:

Sorry, i have to add that not all operating systems support these features.

Let's call it an educated guess.

I don't think I need to ask other people to explain this stuff to me, thanks all the same.

I appreciate what you're trying to do in this thread, but facts are pretty thin on the ground. None of this has anything to do with name servers, for instance.

Again,
all theory.


Assumptions get "you" nowhere.

I always assumed banks knew what they were doing untill i lost 200k plus euro's because they didn't know wtf they were doing.

Again,
Go ask the hacker community.
I dare you to contact Psychomarine @ enigmagroup, and ask him if what i claim holds any truth?

Next to the fact that this topic is being derailed with theories and speculations,
which was never the intention. I bring the facts, coming forth from experience.

This is becoming a yes - no game  

With all due respect ofcourse,

LS.

It's not outsmarting faucets that's the problem, it's outsmarting google. They're turning over billions in advertising revenue, and have some of the smartest minds in the business dedicating their whole working lives to preventing fraudulent activity on their ads. I'll just go ahead and assume they know what they're doing.

If you're using a VPN from a VPN provider, it's going to have a very obvious fingerprint. If you're tunnelling to some incognito residential internet connection then yeah that's not something that's going to be easy to spot, but I'm guessing most people aren't going to be doing that (nor would they want to, because who'd trust some random joe with piping all their internet traffic?)

Many vpn ip addresses are legit? Indistinguishable from any other ip, unless it is blacklisted.
Howcome people do not try, yet they think they know how it works?

hmmmmz.
With all due respect


Then they're not using a good vpn service
Maybe remove cookies and try again?

For us, a team of 12 people, it always works.
Isn't that a bit funny?
We have the experience, yet people who theoretically think to know how it works, disagree?

There's always a way. A good vpn is not transparent, like proxy's are.
Maybe go ask the hacker community if what i claim is the truth?

But whatever, people should try it themselves, and if they don't  want to: that's just fine.
People disagreeing: that's fine aswell.

Convince yourselves by experience, not theory.

With regards,

LS.

Not really and that's why it's also weirder....i was trying german server while i'm from italy xDD

edit.
and of course cookies/cache shouldn't be a problem since it was in "anonymous navigation" or whatever it is in english.

I don't think google is dumb enough to fall for VPN traffic, but if you're hitting faucets via a VPN in another country and seeing google ads specific to your real location, it'll be because of a cookie.

Google would have never allowed it to be fooled. They not pay for clicks via VPN.

It is not a win-win situation. Faucets owners are losing.

Exactly.

If you must spend an hour to get 10k satoshi, well that's not really worth it. At least for me it isn't.
But then again, for some others it might be.

LS.

Yep...there is always a way of course but like i said before it's not worth for a claim on a faucet/s, at least for me it's not worth anyway i agree that cyberghost is pretty nice and can be usefull for other things

OK.

Weird?

Then my advice is to read this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-safely-go-through-faucet-lists-and-eliminate-internet-threats-1221083
Then read this thread again, for setting up vpn for linux.

In the end, windows and almost all it's software sux.
I still think cyberghost is good, you just need to get a good IP. Not all are good you know.
Just like with TOR, some exit nodes are shady to say the least.
Many are blacklisted  aswell.

There's always a way, best believe it ^^

LS.

EDIT: i must agree that there are quite a lot of blacklisted ip's on cyberghost vpn service. Still, it is doable. It just takes a few tries.

Tried few countries but on some faucets doesn't work and it's something that simple doesn't repay the effort with faucets since you will lose more time on finding the right server than what you will earn from that single claim.

Also server's ips are public so it's easy to blacklist them and also if it works for few claims it will come the time when also that server will be blacklisted.

And since it worked fine for some faucets i was curious and i wanted to try the premium service so all my considerations are coming from a premium user

Weird.

For us it always works on windows machines. Try another IP? Some are blacklisted.
Try another country?

LS.

It happend to me also that i tried a germany server and was viewing arabic ads.

Also it's like a normal vpn/proxy since faucets that don't allow them don't work with cyberghost too(maybe it's a bit better than other services but still doesn't work on a lot of these faucets).

Please tell me how did you change your IP?

LS.

I tested it on other site I changed my IP but Google still shows me targeted ads of my country that's how it detects that from where I am.

I can.

When you use the IP from your internet provider, that is linked to a nameserver.
When you use a vpn, it bypasses your internet provider's nameserver, and uses the nameserver associated with the vpn ip address.

Does this make any sense to you?

LS.

i just know if im using vpn i can get more income from faucet, can anyone explain to me how it works? im so confused

Appearrantly,

people want the satoshi's. So why not help them get some?
And it's not "so much". It is simple enough. Even a one-eyed monkey can do it?

In the end, who doesn't respect the small, won't get anything big at all?

And about using my brain in a more useful manner:
what is your reference of me not doing that?

I think that's quite abbrasive and offensive to talk to people, you don't even know like that 

Still, with regards,

LS.

So much for just some petty satoshies, use your brain in more useful manner and you will make much more than that.

He means that adsense won't pay (or will offer greatly reduced pay) to clicks coming from VPN providers. I've never tested it but I assume he's right. Otherwise people could just cycle through proxies and VPNs clicking their own ads to make money.

I'm not sure why nameservers are being brought into this in regards to a user's connection. They're just used for lookup, your traffic doesn't flow through them.

That's not correct.

When using a regular ip from your isp, then the ip will go via the nameserver of your isp.
Using vpn, it doesn't. It bypassses the nameserver associated with your isp,
and goes through the nameserver associated with the vpn address?

Try it.

You'll see for youself that your provider and nameserver are not that of your default provider.
Set it up. Google for ip info. What's my ip. Etc.
You'll see

With regards,

LS.

Google detect ISP as well  . if you don't believe see analystic .
they may show your country different but they don't show ISP wrong.

This has been working for us for more then ten years.
As long as the vpn server addresses are legit, there won't be any problems?

Many users don't know how to do it properly, but that's something else.
It will work.

Just try it. In real world situation it works.
People always have a theory that it won't work, but that's not real life situation.
They usually read it somewhere but never tried it.

Again, it will work and is a win - win situation.

I'd like to see someone disproving this with facts / results.

With regards,

LS.

no friend don't do that Google is not fool , if it were so easy as you said many users would be making 1000s of USD per day.

Google have enough data to detect us .

Yes i do.

Let's assume i use a vpn, with an address from amsterdam.
The site owner "sees" the ip from amsterdam, and ads are displayed accordingly.

A click on a ad from a european IP presents more revenue, then a click from an IP from peru. (for example)
So when someone visits the site "from amsterdam" the site owner get's more revenue, and then can also give higher faucet rewards.

Just try it.

LS.

LOL. It's a bit funny to see people complaining about those faucet users who cheats and then this thread regarding a tutorial on how to cheat the faucet that has a method on how to get "more "BTC" in it. It's not actually cheating rho but then I think it wouldn't be fair if all people would get a high amount. I think that is why faucets are drained easily, more factor is the bots that people uses.

Do you think this will benefit the faucet owners OP?

I would like to ad to this that:

using a european ip address will give faucets owners more revenue from their adds,
and also ups the rewards from the faucets accordingly.

Obviously, it's not just european ip addresses. North america, canada, etc. will work just fine.
So using a vpn in a legit, ethical way is a win win situation.

LS.

You're very welcome.
Hopefully it will help others too.

LS.

Yep it works fine...tried some faucets that i know that they don't allow vpn/proxies and everything worked fine. The queue for free members is a bit annoying but if the service is so good it can be acceptable.

Will see if it can become my main program when i need a different ip.

Thanks for the suggestion 

Yes indeed, occasionally that will be the case when using low quality vpn servers.
The vpn servers we use are legit ip addresses which can't be differentiated from regular ip addresses.

They are not proxy's and can't be detected with php / cUrl.
They might be blacklisted, but then you change the vpn server address or with cyberghost, reconnect to get a new ip / identity.

Just try it?

LS.

Usually, faucets that set different rewards for different countries don't allow vpns/proxies.

Hi forum.

Appearantly, visitors from different countries get different faucet rewards.
There is ofcourse a way to evade that disadvantage. The answer is VPN!

First, we / i often use vpn for ransacking faucet lists. They've never blocked us.
So it should work for anyone. Let me explain how to set this up:

For windows:

Download cyberghost free vpn there: cyberghostvpn.com
Choose the free version / download.

Install it. When it's done, a popup message shows up for installing a TAP-device.
You install that too, it's mandatory and then you're done.

Next you fire up cyberghost. Choose a custom country from the free server list, of which there are plenty.
I advice you to choose a server from europe, appearantly in europe we get the highest faucet rewards.

As the cyberghost version we use is the free version, you get one popup asking you to buy the payed version, just click it away.
Then, you get a timer to wait for a free slot. Shouldn't take more then a minute before it starts to connect to the server you've chosen.

You can visually see from where, to where the connection is made as it is being displayed in a graphical world map.
When it's active / connected, you'll get a notification at the right bottom corner that it's active.

Now start ransacking faucets!

If you don't believe it works, google -> whats my ip


For linux:

It is a bit more difficult, but once you've done it, it's a piece of cake.

The steps are:

Create a ten / twenty minute mail address of your choosing:

10minutemail.com
10minutemail.net
my10minutemail.com
20minutemail.com

There are plenty of those.

Next, go there: goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn
to register for a free vpn account and click "try it free".

Then choose:
Free Limited Plan -> create account.

Here, you enter the email address from your ten / twenty minute mail address and choose a password of your liking.
Press the "create free account" button.

!IMPORTANT:
Copy -> paste the ten / twenty minute email address into a text file and type the password in there aswell!
This is really important. They're required to make the vyprVPN connection.

Next,
Check your ten / twenty minute mail address. There should be a confirmation email from goldenfrog.
Read it and copy -> paste the confirmation link into your browser address bar and press enter.
Now your vyprVPN account is active.

Next, download the goldenfrog vyprVPN certificate:
open up a console and enter this command:

sudo wget -O /etc/openvpn/ca.vyprvpn.com.crt https://www.goldenfrog.com/downloads/ca.vyprvpn.com.crt
press enter.

After downloading, which takes only seconds, go to the network manager.
Add a new connection and choose: openVPN
You can give it any name you want.

1: change the connection type to "password"

2: Locate the CA File: /etc/openvpn/ca.vyprvpn.com.crt

3: Username: the ten / twenty minute email address

4: password: the password you chose when you signed up at vyprVPN

5: Click advanced tab, check "LZO compression"

press ok once.

6: Lastly, put in a server address in the gateway textfield.

You can find the server list there: support.goldenfrog.com/hc/en-us/articles/203733723-What-are-the-VyprVPN-server-addresses-

!IMPORTANT:
Choose a server located in europe. Copy -> paste that server address into the gateway textfield.
Press ok.

Now you're done. The vpn connection has been setup / created.

Next,
connect with your default access point. (or hardwired internet cable.)
You'll get a popup message saying it is activated.

Then connect with the VPN connection.
You'll get a popup message saying it is activated. There should be a network icon with a lock.

That's it. Now you're "browsing from europe".
Start ransacking those faucets!

NOTE: free vyprVPN accounts have a limit of 500mb data traffic.
If you exceed this, you get a "connection failed" message when you connect to the vpn connection.

But that's just fine. We can't be beaten.
You then just repeat the steps:

1: Create a temporary mail.
2: Register at goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn for a free account. (Again, put the temporary email address + password in a text file.)

Edit the vyprVPN connection via the network manager.
Change username with new temporary email address, and optionally a new password, if you've chosen to use a new password.
Optionally, choose another vyprVPN server from the list.
Press ok.

Connect with the vpn connection.
Again a popup should show the vpn connection is activated with a network icon with a lock.

Pretty easy huh?

Anyone that needs help with this, as different linux distro's have different network managers,
reply here, or send me a PM.

Maybe this post i created can help you a lot aswell: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221083.0
I wrote it to evade timers, "click if you're human" links and any and all other internet threats.

Questions? Remarks? Complaints? Even compliments are welcome.


With regards,

LS.