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Quote from: Fullbear2222 on January 10, 2025, 09:26:41 AM

How he take ?
Will be peacfully or with military used ?
Does locals prefer to be under usa control more ?

I think, in greenland trump will put troops there? or he have other mission to taking over greenland.

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Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

Greenlanders will ask for 100 million each. Do not assume people are dumb, they know the value of land, and BTW, they would not sell, they would only lease.

They are not dumb, but what can 56,000 people do against the most powerful nation on Earth with 300+ million people. USA is a master of taking nations without them knowing it.

By that reasoning, any country would need to ceede their sovereignty to the US just whenever they ask.

Greeland at the moment is part of Denmark and they may want to be independent. If the US wants to invade, it is war. If the US wants to buy it is probably not for sale and if they want to lease... the price may be much higher than "1 million per person".

If the US is ready to attack a NATO ally, break international law and simply landgrab yet once again the land of natives and possibly, like in the past, exterminate or assimilate Borg style, then I guess there is nothing to be done. However there is a case for the US not wanting to get in absolutely everyone elses bad side. They might need some support if China keeps growing at this pace.

There is plenty of risk attached to attacking countries that, until now, are supporting you internationally.

No need to attack, just psy op, divide and conquer, few assassination's / accidents, bribes and blackmail would suffice. Taking Greenland is a no brainer for USA.

That could be an option of course. It is still a question of how far do you want to go with Europe. You can wage grey area operations but in the end the governments affected do understand what it happening and may decide that, since Ruzzia and China are not trying to get Greenland by the back door, it may be better to be more friendly to them... and less to the US.

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Quote from: paxmao on January 23, 2025, 04:53:22 AM

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Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

Greenlanders will ask for 100 million each. Do not assume people are dumb, they know the value of land, and BTW, they would not sell, they would only lease.

They are not dumb, but what can 56,000 people do against the most powerful nation on Earth with 300+ million people. USA is a master of taking nations without them knowing it.

By that reasoning, any country would need to ceede their sovereignty to the US just whenever they ask.

Greeland at the moment is part of Denmark and they may want to be independent. If the US wants to invade, it is war. If the US wants to buy it is probably not for sale and if they want to lease... the price may be much higher than "1 million per person".

If the US is ready to attack a NATO ally, break international law and simply landgrab yet once again the land of natives and possibly, like in the past, exterminate or assimilate Borg style, then I guess there is nothing to be done. However there is a case for the US not wanting to get in absolutely everyone elses bad side. They might need some support if China keeps growing at this pace.

No need to attack, just psy op, divide and conquer, few assassination's / accidents, bribes and blackmail would suffice. Taking Greenland is a no brainer for USA.

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Quote from: JackMazzoni on January 22, 2025, 08:50:32 PM

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Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

Greenlanders will ask for 100 million each. Do not assume people are dumb, they know the value of land, and BTW, they would not sell, they would only lease.

They are not dumb, but what can 56,000 people do against the most powerful nation on Earth with 300+ million people. USA is a master of taking nations without them knowing it.

By that reasoning, any country would need to ceede their sovereignty to the US just whenever they ask.

Greeland at the moment is part of Denmark and they may want to be independent. If the US wants to invade, it is war. If the US wants to buy it is probably not for sale and if they want to lease... the price may be much higher than "1 million per person".

If the US is ready to attack a NATO ally, break international law and simply landgrab yet once again the land of natives and possibly, like in the past, exterminate or assimilate Borg style, then I guess there is nothing to be done. However there is a case for the US not wanting to get in absolutely everyone elses bad side. They might need some support if China keeps growing at this pace.

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Quote from: paxmao on January 22, 2025, 03:53:53 AM

Quote from: ? on January 19, 2025, 11:51:35 AM

Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

Greenlanders will ask for 100 million each. Do not assume people are dumb, they know the value of land, and BTW, they would not sell, they would only lease.

They are not dumb, but what can 56,000 people do against the most powerful nation on Earth with 300+ million people. USA is a master of taking nations without them knowing it.

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Add to the money incentive, the choice of having to live under Russia or the US, what will people really do?

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Trump planning taking Greenland is simple because if he has the money to pay them off ,by giving each of them what is good for them to use to relocate from Greenland to a befitting place to settle down
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That is also a means of trump planning taking Greenland.

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He definitely won't go to war, because he's a businessman.

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Quote from: ? on January 19, 2025, 11:51:35 AM

Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

Greenlanders will ask for 100 million each. Do not assume people are dumb, they know the value of land, and BTW, they would not sell, they would only lease.

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Trump will pay each citizen $1 million, he will settle all 56 thousand people to have Greenland.trump says this step is necessary for the interests of national security and freedom in the world.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 11, 2025, 07:18:30 PM

Undoubtly, during these coming four years Europe will need to develop their own defense options, as USA is also likely to quit NATO

But do they still have a chance to develop defense to protect themselves when they are caught between the United States and Russia? Europe will have to start everything from zero and I don't think they will choose that path because it is an impossible task, instead, it will be simpler if they continue to depend on the United States. So if Trump is determined, I wouldn't be surprised if they cede Greenland to the US.

I don't think the US will leave NATO despite Trump's threats because it is not in the US's interest. There is no benefit in losing close allies, and pawns that can be used in the future. Not to mention, the US's dominance will end if Europe moves closer to Russia and China, Trump is not that stupid.

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Quote from: paxmao on January 11, 2025, 05:41:58 PM

Quote from: JackMazzoni on January 10, 2025, 10:01:33 PM

Pay each Greenlandic citizen $1 million USD. Then hold a referendum. There are only 56,000 citizens. That would cost only $56 billion USD. Easy-peasy.

You will find that firstly, the constitution of Denmark probably does not allow breaking-up. You will also find that the people of Greenland will not want to get caught in the future Chinesse-American war.

It is a good thing that Trump is so agressive, this will make sure that Europe starts creating their own defence forces and possibly start getting a proper nuclear arsenal. I think Europe has been dancing to US song for too long, it is time to grow balls and seek the European interests.

Greenland wanted to be independent from Denmark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Vd2XMI_m8&t=69s

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Quote from: paxmao on January 11, 2025, 05:41:58 PM

Quote from: JackMazzoni on January 10, 2025, 10:01:33 PM

Pay each Greenlandic citizen $1 million USD. Then hold a referendum. There are only 56,000 citizens. That would cost only $56 billion USD. Easy-peasy.

You will find that firstly, the constitution of Denmark probably does not allow breaking-up. You will also find that the people of Greenland will not want to get caught in the future Chinesse-American war.

It is a good thing that Trump is so agressive, this will make sure that Europe starts creating their own defence forces and possibly start getting a proper nuclear arsenal. I think Europe has been dancing to US song for too long, it is time to grow balls and seek the European interests.

Trump has not reached the office of the presidency yet and he is already dividing European interests and the interest of the United States. Putin and the Kremlin must feel very satisfied about it, just a hunch.
Also, there are some articles already circulating suggesting the government of Denmark has been in close contact with the Trump Team in order to try to convince them they do not need to hand over Greenland to the USA, and if they want to increase their military operations there Denmark is ready to greenlight anything USA needs.
Undoubtly, during these coming four years Europe will need to develop their own defense options, as USA is also likely to quit NATO

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Quote from: JackMazzoni on January 10, 2025, 10:01:33 PM

Pay each Greenlandic citizen $1 million USD. Then hold a referendum. There are only 56,000 citizens. That would cost only $56 billion USD. Easy-peasy.

You will find that firstly, the constitution of Denmark probably does not allow breaking-up. You will also find that the people of Greenland will not want to get caught in the future Chinesse-American war.

It is a good thing that Trump is so agressive, this will make sure that Europe starts creating their own defence forces and possibly start getting a proper nuclear arsenal. I think Europe has been dancing to US song for too long, it is time to grow balls and seek the European interests.

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Denmark would just hand it over. There could be diplomatic bullshit and conditions but Denmark would without a fight hand over the ownership to US. It's not hard to see, Denmark and most of the Europe are puppet of US for too long, their Economy is strong just because US is letting it be. They should obey what the master says.

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Pay each Greenlandic citizen $1 million USD. Then hold a referendum. There are only 56,000 citizens. That would cost only $56 billion USD. Easy-peasy.

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Quote from: Ucy on January 10, 2025, 02:33:33 PM

He doesn't need to take anywhere. The leaders will be subject to him. It's like indirect rule, or ruling other nations indirectly. They will do his will otherwise there will be issues

Exactly what I think will be the outcome, America pledging to offer the people of Greenland a better life could have lots of untold interpretation which may not be favourable to them in the future.

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Quote from: Fullbear2222 on January 10, 2025, 09:26:41 AM

How he take ?
Will be peacfully or with military used ?
Does locals prefer to be under usa control more ?

From my perspective we can't oversize the fact that actions and reactions are both equal and opposite, every living creature seeks security and well-being of her nation which is not far from the desire of Greenland, they just need to come under the coverage of a big whale like America but the bitter truth is that America will reap there resources as much as they offer them the good life they sole desire.

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How trump plan to take greenland ?

Or, How to save the US and Greenland from Russia. NATO is already lost.

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He doesn't need to take anywhere. The leaders will be subject to him. It's like indirect rule, or ruling other nations indirectly. They will do his will otherwise there will be issues

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Quote from: BADecker on January 10, 2025, 10:02:19 AM

Pay the Greenland people to vote. Plus, tell them that they will be safer from Russia being owned by the US. Plus, pay off whatever country owns Greenland right now... a NATO nation that is being paid off by the US anyway. You don't think that Musk and Ramaswamy are cutting $1.9-trillion of fat off government for nothing, do you?

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Against fake information, facts: Netherlands is not paid by the US. NATO does not mean ownership. There is an US base in Greenland that is leased, like many others.

I mean a dumBAss plan. From the point of view of Denmark, the legitimate state that includes Greenland, it is likely that selling territories is not in the agenda and it is probably illegal to start with.

Trump will probably create a MGGA movement, start tweeting disinformation and play all the cards in the Neo-Fascist inventory. However he may find that the average European is vastly more educated in politics that then average american and they simply may not want to be caught in the middle of the future Chinesse-American war.

Trump's plan is to hold chokepoints all over the world to threaten China with economic collapse. It is not a bad plan but as usual, Trump is the wrong person to implement it.

BTW, there had been more ambitious plans... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm#:~:text=Project%20Iceworm%20was%20a%20top,could%20survive%20a%20first%20strike.

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I don't know about you, but all this situation concerning Greenland and Trump wanting to take over it is kind of creepy. It is reminiscent of American imperialism, proper from other eras.
And I believe this does not have anything with to do with Trump or the government of the USA desires to give the people of the Island a better quality of life or more safety, it is more likely Elon Musk's donors wish to exploit the mineral resources which lay under the ground of Greenland, kicking out natives and establishing big corporations in their place.
The ranting about the Panama canal is more obvious, as Trump would wish to have control and leverage over China and their commerce with other nations.

Anyways, It is kind of ironic of Trump campaigned on America First and he now has gone fully into Greenland.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 10, 2025, 10:02:19 AM

Pay the Greenland people to vote. Plus, tell them that they will be safer from Russia being owned by the US. Plus, pay off whatever country owns Greenland right now... a NATO nation that is being paid off by the US anyway. You don't think that Musk and Ramaswamy are cutting $1.9-trillion of fat off government for nothing, do you?

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I feel the Greenland people are just looking for a big brother they could easily hang on to, and America for them is that big brother. If there is a vote right now to determine if the citizens wants to be under the U.S, trust me all of them will be voting in the affirmative. Well, let's wait and see what Donald Trump will do concerning this Greenland issue because overtime I know he has been passionate about it. Meanwhile on the other hand, the Russians are closing in with full force in a bid to take over the ownership of the island.

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Pay the Greenland people to vote. Plus, tell them that they will be safer from Russia being owned by the US. Plus, pay off whatever country owns Greenland right now... a NATO nation that is being paid off by the US anyway. You don't think that Musk and Ramaswamy are cutting $1.9-trillion of fat off government for nothing, do you?

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How he take ?
Will be peacfully or with military used ?
Does locals prefer to be under usa control more ?

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