How will the stress test effect the price?

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hee-ho.

Quote from: victoryboy on September 17, 2015, 10:39:44 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 17, 2015, 10:28:22 AM

btw the stress test didn't go as expected.
they canceled their original plan to create the 1 month backlog and did something else that have too little effect to be called a stress test.

This means we should be ready for another stress test soon as last one didn't go as they planed ? By the way stress test will not effect the price of bitcoin.

well if there's another then the ones who will be doing it might not be coinwallet. the reason they canceled their original plane was because some legal pressure.

about the price... I guess we'll never know for sure.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 17, 2015, 10:28:22 AM

btw the stress test didn't go as expected.
they canceled their original plan to create the 1 month backlog and did something else that have too little effect to be called a stress test.

This means we should be ready for another stress test soon as last one didn't go as they planed ? By the way stress test will not effect the price of bitcoin.

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hee-ho.

btw the stress test didn't go as expected.
they canceled their original plan to create the 1 month backlog and did something else that have too little effect to be called a stress test.

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Quote from: frenulum on September 11, 2015, 11:02:57 PM

The network has done better than some suspected. Maybe the price will go up soon.

I agree - now it should bounce back on the relief.

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The relevant question is how much are regular transactions delayed. I'm not getting any slowdowns so far.

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The network has done better than some suspected. Maybe the price will go up soon.

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The stress attack is confirming that the bitcoin network is robust. There will be delays when network is under stress. It will not breakdown. So if this attack is going to affect user confidence and the price, I would say the direction should be upward.

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https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

transactions are jumping too which obviously makes sense

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"stress test" is a fuckin' joke

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Quote from: natewelt on September 11, 2015, 07:26:06 PM

How many unconfirmed transactions are there during normal times? Looks like over 30k now...

I'm not sure but I know it's well below 10k. I think it's usually about 2 or 3k. People weren't happy when it went over 10k during the last stress test. This stress test/giveaway is building up more unconfirmed transactions than any of the previous ones, and coinwallet.eu don't even have to pay for servers to do it with this time. Their strategy of claiming their stress test is a giveaway is working well.

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I don't know if the "stress test" ended yet

but prices don't seem to be really affected at all

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How many unconfirmed transactions are there during normal times? Looks like over 30k now...

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Usually uncertainty will lead to price drop. So does revealing weaknesses in the system and how easily it gets manipulated. However i may be wrong as seen in the last stress test. Price was up most of the time

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the stress test won't have any impact on the price. bitcoin is handling the transactions extremely well.

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Quote from: MF Doom on September 11, 2015, 07:07:40 AM

theres always those who are seemingly always ready to dump at the first sign of a problem or bad news though. I think at some point during the "stress test" (its going on all month I think?) there will be a hiccup and there will be some dumping. THAT may be a good time to pick up some "cheap coins"

The scheduled stress test was supposed to. The new "not-at-all-a-stress-test-it's-a-benevolent-give-away", however... well, I guess that'll go on until all dust has been swept or we've all lost interest!

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Quote from: Amph on September 11, 2015, 02:17:00 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 10, 2015, 04:12:02 PM

I think the stress test will have a positive impact on the price. I just don't know how big it will be.
the reason is a simple one. some people will get their btc transaction to exchanges delayed because they are unaware of the stress test. that means less dumps.

another one is that some users will not sell any bitcoin, because they will not send any, anywhere, this mean less dumping

but it would be, principally an isolated thing, the majority will trade regularly

theres always those who are seemingly always ready to dump at the first sign of a problem or bad news though. I think at some point during the "stress test" (its going on all month I think?) there will be a hiccup and there will be some dumping. THAT may be a good time to pick up some "cheap coins"

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Quote from: Amph on September 11, 2015, 02:17:00 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 10, 2015, 04:12:02 PM

I think the stress test will have a positive impact on the price. I just don't know how big it will be.
the reason is a simple one. some people will get their btc transaction to exchanges delayed because they are unaware of the stress test. that means less dumps.

another one is that some users will not sell any bitcoin, because they will not send any, anywhere, this mean less dumping

but it would be, principally an isolated thing, the majority will trade regularly

the users who don't plan to move their coins due to the test will surely do so eventually. so the dumping stage will be moved away from us for a short while. but it's just temporarily.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 10, 2015, 04:12:02 PM

I think the stress test will have a positive impact on the price. I just don't know how big it will be.
the reason is a simple one. some people will get their btc transaction to exchanges delayed because they are unaware of the stress test. that means less dumps.

another one is that some users will not sell any bitcoin, because they will not send any, anywhere, this mean less dumping

but it would be, principally an isolated thing, the majority will trade regularly

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Quote from: Ibian on September 10, 2015, 06:11:33 AM

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

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Now it is 21078 with total size of 55418 (KB) - so it looks like it grows and if that goes on for some time this can become a problem.

It was kind of obvious that the backlog will build up and that this will start not at once - but after people figure out how to use the published keys and generate those huge transactions. The only question is how miners will react - if they quickly adjust and just ignore these transactions then this should settle down nicely. And if people start paying any fees - it it would be in the interest of the miners to ignore the huge transactions - because they lose fees from other transactions if they include them. Theoretically it is all very well balanced - but it depends on the miners now and some people can still panic seeing the backlog.

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hee-ho.

Quote from: Itun on September 10, 2015, 04:16:36 PM

Lol that's one way to think of it.

But are the vast majority of bitcoin users that news-ignorant?

I don't know. that's why I said this

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I just don't know how big it will be.

added that part just before I posted. someone have to put their faith in humanity. Grin

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on September 10, 2015, 04:12:02 PM

I think the stress test will have a positive impact on the price. I just don't know how big it will be.
the reason is a simple one. some people will get their btc transaction to exchanges delayed because they are unaware of the stress test. that means less dumps.

Lol that's one way to think of it.

But are the vast majority of bitcoin users that news-ignorant?

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hee-ho.

I think the stress test will have a positive impact on the price. I just don't know how big it will be.
the reason is a simple one. some people will get their btc transaction to exchanges delayed because they are unaware of the stress test. that means less dumps.

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There actually aren't that many unconfirmed transactions right now.

Prices would only start showing effects of this if there ever is a 30 day backlog which I highly doubt will be.

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The stress test won't impact at price because majority of the people don't aware about this on going stress test, price will be stay remain stable at current price range.

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I also think stress test would not impact on the bitcoin price because it is stable at this level and in my opinion that stress test don't have any meaning for person who love bitcoin.

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The stress test won't impact on the price either positively or negatively. If the price makes a significant move either way I'm pretty sure it'll be nothing to do with the stress test.

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Well, unless the stress test doesn't start being stressful soon, it will prove two things: The demand for a QUICK OR ITS DOOMSDAY type of blocksize increase schelude is insane, and two, it does nothing to the price, in fact its going up since a while ago again.

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it is better to remove any link to that thread in order to prevent any more views for that shameful thread.

Quote from: Ibian on September 10, 2015, 06:11:33 AM

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

/yawn

blockchain.info is returning this error again like last time Angry

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"Maximum concurrent requests for this endpoint reached. Please try again shortly.

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Quote from: lorylore on September 10, 2015, 07:33:38 AM

Quote from: Ibian on September 10, 2015, 06:11:33 AM

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

/yawn

It's not a huge number of unconfirmed transaction.
I think that the price of bitcoin at the stress test period will maybe decrease.
Why? Because people will not buy, because it can never reach their destination address if the fees are normal.

It's a normal level of unconfirmed transactions. There is nothing going on that matters. If the price moves it won't be over this.

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Quote from: Ibian on September 10, 2015, 06:11:33 AM

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

/yawn

It's not a huge number of unconfirmed transaction.
I think that the price of bitcoin at the stress test period will maybe decrease.
Why? Because people will not buy, because it can never reach their destination address if the fees are normal.

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Quote from: XCASH on September 10, 2015, 07:06:15 AM

They had to ban giveaways here because the amount of addresses getting posted here for free coins was stress testing this forum.

No it was because the giveaway threads kept getting bumped to the top of their section. They were basically paying people to bump their threads.

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They had to ban giveaways here because the amount of addresses getting posted here for free coins was stress testing this forum. I hope the same number of people don't try to claim those free coins and do the stress testers jobs for them. All the coins in the giveaway are composed of dust transactions from the last stress test, and transferring them will take up excessive amounts of block space.

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https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

/yawn

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Apparently the coinwallet stress test have been going on since yesterday: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinwalleteu-stress-test-cancelled-bitcoin-giveaway-1175321 They give out private keys for accounts with huge numbers of inputs counting that someone reading it will generate the huge transactions. Have any of these huge transactions been generated? How is the network coping with them?

This could push the price down in a big way - but it looks quiet so far - so maybe the effect will be the opposite - as the network proves robust.

Personally I think that the network will survive and the average fees will increase. The gigantic transactions will possibly stay in the backlog for some time, because miners will not have much incentives to put them into the blockchain (and lose fees from other transactions) - but everything else will not be delayed much because miners will not have any problem with other transactions. So yeah - there might be an initial flashcrash because of the uncertainty and doubt - but it should bounce hard once that clears.

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