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Huawei isn't an awesome handy brand, they steal off of American companies in order to further their own goals. They don't innovate, they don't create their own products -- they leech off the back of those that work hard.

'Awesome' right?

doesnt matter they stole and build better handies, american corporations benefited for decades long theft of eastern european labourers from the soviet block. that where needed in eastern europe.

no one is without sin.

i think the chinese are like the germany where after world war 2 and could potentially deindustrialse the economies outside of it.
When that country has no way to steal the technology and dead.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-29/south-korea-charges-11-with-selling-samsung-technology-to-china

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as far as i remember that country was stealing the military technology from america and russia too, im sure if that country can't steal any technology again and this country will be end forever. German is totally different than china  Roll Eyes
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Huawei isn't an awesome handy brand, they steal off of American companies in order to further their own goals. They don't innovate, they don't create their own products -- they leech off the back of those that work hard.

'Awesome' right?

doesnt matter they stole and build better handies, american corporations benefited for decades long theft of eastern european labourers from the soviet block. that where needed in eastern europe.

no one is without sin.

i think the chinese are like the germany where after world war 2 and could potentially deindustrialse the economies outside of it.
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This is because when the US makes a decision like this, they typically have a coalition of nations prepared to work with them -- as the US uses their military and economic might to force countries into working with them on issues like this. This is the reason that Huawei is going to take a beating due to this news, while Apple and the other tech companies of the world are most likely going to be fine.

Some may complain about the economic influence and military influence of the US -- but this is the upside of it.

Exactly, US has been doing partnership in favor of them since they usually becomes the upper hand other countries will follow their certain actions. While China on the other hand keeps Harassing smaller countries and that is how they keep their superiority. Which in the end makes it bad for them as instead of getting alliance they are gaining more enemies.

The domino effect of US actions makes it very powerful even if China is going to ban all it's products
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It is very obvious, China banning American companies you hear nothing because it has no effect to the broader market. While on the other hand even if the American Companies only banned one Chinese giant tech. Everyone started to become crazy.

Therefore the effect of American companies banning a single Chinese company can be very fatal to a broader market. While Chinese banning multiple American Companies does not seem to affect a lot.

Apple used to make their products in US but have transferred to China because it's cheap. They can just easily go back to where they've started and that means no problem to them.

Simple logic: Apple only loses sales from China , Huawei Loses sales around the world.

This is because when the US makes a decision like this, they typically have a coalition of nations prepared to work with them -- as the US uses their military and economic might to force countries into working with them on issues like this. This is the reason that Huawei is going to take a beating due to this news, while Apple and the other tech companies of the world are most likely going to be fine.

Some may complain about the economic influence and military influence of the US -- but this is the upside of it.
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While I don't like how the Chinese are spying and remaking everything to be cheaper and less durable, Apple is a shit company as well. Many of Apple's products are faulty and most are overpriced and bought only for display, for the logo. Apple used to be innovative but now it's only trying to milk their customers, get them to pay more money for nothing. A great example of this milking is iphone 9 vs X. Just compare the specs and prices and you'll see that it's not worth the price tag, especially when compared to what the competition from China and Korea is offering.
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It is very obvious, China banning American companies you hear nothing because it has no effect to the broader market. While on the other hand even if the American Companies only banned one Chinese giant tech. Everyone started to become crazy.

Therefore the effect of American companies banning a single Chinese company can be very fatal to a broader market. While Chinese banning multiple American Companies does not seem to affect a lot.

Apple used to make their products in US but have transferred to China because it's cheap. They can just easily go back to where they've started and that means no problem to them.

Simple logic: Apple only loses sales from China , Huawei Loses sales around the world.
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The ones who win: The providers of the service. In America that means the privately owned companies, and in China that means the state.

So the two winners are either American Businesses (and the people that work for them) or Chinese businesses (and the Chinese government and the people that work for them for pennies for each day.

I'd much rather see Americans win, who've been taken advantage of by the Chinese for about 50+ years now. American policy allowed this to happen, and American policy should stop it.

Fuck the Chinese

shut up, huawei is an awesome handy brand. main problem we have globally now are these geographic religions.

Huawei isn't an awesome handy brand, they steal off of American companies in order to further their own goals. They don't innovate, they don't create their own products -- they leech off the back of those that work hard.

'Awesome' right?

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Fuck the Chinese

shut up, huawei is an awesome handy brand. main problem we have globally now are these geographic religions.
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It’s not perfect here in the US, but I certainly trust it more anything coming from China.  The only way to succeed in China is if you are part of the Communist party.  It’s a police state.  They will censure and track your every movement.  If they do that to their own citizens, you don’t think they will do that to the rest of the world? 

Which implies whichever way it goes it is definitely going to be a leak of information, thanks for your feedback
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The ones who win: The providers of the service. In America that means the privately owned companies, and in China that means the state.
Even if the private companies in America owns it can't America Governments push them hard for such information?
And the twist here can we also believed that Huawei got the guts to deny China access?
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It’s not perfect here in the US, but I certainly trust it more anything coming from China.  The only way to succeed in China is if you are part of the Communist party.  It’s a police state.  They will censure and track your every movement.  If they do that to their own citizens, you don’t think they will do that to the rest of the world? 
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The ones who win: The providers of the service. In America that means the privately owned companies, and in China that means the state.
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The technology involves here is 5G
What are the benefits of 5G?
One may see or perceive it as just the series of moving from 3G to 4G, thereby just seeing it as a sequence but believe it or not 5G is a life changer, the real definition of technology and speed. 5G is so fast that it will reform our world and transform our way of lives. Research by some peers shows that a document file that can take about 10 hours to upload or download on the 2G/3G network will take about an hour using the 4G network but hey 5G does it on just a click.

How a technology invention could stir up a whole world political weather

With the yet to launch 5G network u can’t make excuses to your mum or dad on the telephone over unclear phone call conversations, there will be no place for faking… just imagine you been gone out to party with some friends and your phone rings, picks up and want to fake and drop it pretending its network, those days are far gone

So if its technology and so beneficial why then will America (apple) & China (Huawei) be in a race to who launches the technology first? Why are they at war?

From my findings U.S won the 4G it attracted a nearly 100 billion dollars, this might have rung a bell in your ears now; anyone who wins the race attracts over 500 billion dollars with extra job opportunities. This clearly signifies that both countries are in for the money, and anyone that has money equally has power, so it means killing two birds with a stone.

One will think that it only ends with money & power but it does not end here, there is more to it, anyone with control of the 5G has access to the whole world’s information and that what it is and that’s what America is against thinking Huawei the company in charge will be oppressed by its government China to give out information. But the question is won’t America Government oppressed and seek this same information?

Google's operating systems will now supply Huawei the android operating system for only 2-3 months to come?  How will Huawei operate?  Close sources have revealed that they have been building their own operating system since 2013, question is, are they ready now?

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Who wins these war, China or America?
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