Topic: Human origin: Evolution or Creation (Read 752 times)

That is not evidence at all, fool. You are really psychopathic for telling someone to suffer. Go poop inside your own mouth.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

The evidence is in the fact that there isn't anything else besides creation or evolution. Since we proved that there is no evolution, all that is left is creation. However...

We don't want proof for creation. Why not? Because God tells us over and over in the Bible that we need faith. So, we don't want proof.

If you don't believe, suffer.

You are not providing evidence because you are too stupid to come up with any or to look it up. I have already provided evidence, but you won't listen because you are stupid.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

That's right about university failure. That's why they lie, so that they  can make money.

You fail to provide any proof for evolution because there isn't any. Oh, there is a bunch of talk. But all evolution talk could be explained as something else if somebody wanted to take the time to explain it a different way.

To prove evolution, you need something that literally goes back in time to a certain point, then chooses a thing that evolved (a good guess), and then follow it up to the present to prove that it was some form of change that made a significant difference.

Nobody can do that. All of evolution theory is and always will be only theory. At least until somebody builds a time viewer or time machine. And that's just the start. You would need super robots or generations of people to follow up a whole bunch of leads from the past to see if any of them changed.

Presently there is nothing at all along those lines that can do such followup. Evolution is simply a nice story, and a whole bunch of guesswork. And you, just like the universities, fell for it... because you are university trained, and not really a thinker.

You continue to fail to provide any evidence of anything because you are a stupid fucking idiot. If universities tried using your standards, they would fail 10 times as much because you are garbage.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Actually, it's only you showing that you are not smart enough to understand the evidence. No wonder universities are failing. They just aren't failing as badly as you.

You are not giving any evidence of anything nor are you making any logical arguments. All you have are insults. This is because you are stupid and shitty. Phuque you.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I'm not trying to show or say that evolution doesn't exist. All I am trying to show is that there is no conclusive evidence that it does. Nobody has tracked it over several thousand years to prove that it exists. And all tracking that we have so far can be used to show things other than evolution. No proof for evolution. Just one of the stories for the evidence.

And please stop using phuque if it doesn't have anything to do with what you are saying. Your university colleagues probably had no idea of what you were speaking when you used that word. And you didn't tell them how it applied.

The word 'phuque' has many meanings and many of them are non-sexual. Watch this video to educate learn yourself about the word 'phuque'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g&t=52s

F@#$ the f@#$ing f@#$ers,

I mean, regards or something like that.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. You still have not given any evidence in favor of creationism nor have you given any evidence that discredits evolution. You have not said anything that anyone anywhere can learn from about evolution or creationism. You have just displayed your stupidity.

I had hoped you were out of the sex stage.

Creation is the only viable alternative to evolution. And since evolution doesn't have any proof, there is nothing left but creation. The idea of aliens simply pushes creation back to the aliens being created.

You have not brought any evidence here about Creationism because you are fucking stupid.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

What does any of that have to do with Evolution Theory Evolution? If you are trying to say that some are advancing while others are declining, you haven't tracked their descendants long enough. A simple generation or two shows that people can advance or decline. It doesn't have anything to do with the stupidity that we call evolution.

Evolution of viruses happens quickly. Human evolution takes more time. By the way, if you want to see human evolution happen quickly, then just fuck someone of a different race than you. If all humans fucked outside their own race for just one generation, then humans would evolve very rapidly. Let's see. Um. Kamala Harris is Indian and Doug Emhoff is white. DJ Vance is white and his wife is Indian. Yup. People are fucking outside of their own races (because their dicks don't care about skin color; their dicks just want to fuck) which means that we will all mix together and mixing together is evolution happening before our eyes.

If you look at chickens, they are getting bigger, so they are evolving. Dogs have evolved a lot due to human intervention. Dogs no longer look like wolves so much.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You can go back thousands of years and look at the form of people. Nations chiseled these forms in stone and brick. They aren't any different than today. There isn't any evolution.

Well, we need to hold those extraterrestrials accountable for f@#$ing s@#$ up.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

the deities have nothing to do with it, it was the extraterrestrials who put cells in the water and then evolution intervened

You are not giving any evidence of creationism. You are just blathering bullshit because you are fucking stupid. You will not accept any mutations because you fucking reject the existences of viruses. WHAT A FUCKING MORON!

People reject science without evidence out of pure psychosis and stupidity.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

The debate about the origin of humanity is often one where neither side can convince the other, as it depends on personal belief. If you believe in God, the theory of evolution won't persuade you; on the other hand, if you're an atheist, you'll find all the evidence to prove that the world is godless.

Nobody can prove a negative. Try proving evolution some time. It's all guesswork. Nobody ever found a random mutation that they can call a form of evolution, and show that it changed anything in a so-called evolution line that exists in nature.

However, you are doing very well at proving that you were university trained.

You have not provided any evidence for your claim. You can't do this because you are an idiot.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

There isn't any evolution theory evolution like the universities say.

Universities are too busy promoting violence, so I don't care about what they have to say. There is nothing good about them. They need to acknowledge wrongdoing. I am doing nothing wrong by calling them out. And since you think I am doing something wrong, you are a piece of shit.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

There you go, talking about yourself again. Well, I suppose the universities won't have anything good to say about you, the way you talk about them. Why don't you try something new?


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Good luck to you in everything!

I know what to do, but I know that people are too fucking stupid (because they went to universities) to implement these measures, so university graduates are going to continue to be stupid idiots.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Good work, man. You have university knowledge, so you know what to do to stop it.

I am actually improving universities by recognizing problems. But people don't see things that way because they hate solving problems because that would mean that they have a substandard education. This only means that we must regard degrees from universities as absolutely worthless.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. I learned most of the things by studying on my own instead of taking classes. That is how it is supposed to be.

You try to use your university training to put down university training. There isn't any problem with that... only laughter.

You have completely misidentified the problem with universities because you are psychotic and arrogant too.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You are lucky. Even though you renounce your university training, you are simply trapped by it and so can't see the truth. For all your talk, you are a victim... victim from the inside.

Since I was never trained by it, I don't have as great of an excuse. That's why I must look  for the truth and see it.

I accept the existence of viruses because unlike you, I am not a delusional stupid fucking moron. Universities promote violence and make people fucking stupid, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Truth is the Sum of existence.

You accept the existence of viruses because it's your religion, and religious values are some of the strongest. Take a look and see that your universities are the churches of false religion. Don't only talk it. Believe what you say. Then find truth so that you can have a religion of truth.

You reject the existence of viruses because you are in a psychosis.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Covid doesn't exist. All that exists is the determination by researchers regarding the materials they use in their labs to create the new fake virus form. It's all part of a scam to mess with peoples' lives and make money off them. This video shows you, in common language that even you can understand, the proof that viruses don't exist - Isolation of SARS-CoV-2 - Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andy Kaufman - The End of Covid | Mirror.

You must not believe that Covid-19 exists since Covid-19 has evolved a lot since 2019 from a nasty virus to something that hardly anyone is still concerned with.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Jesus loves you, but He doesn't like your methods. And part of the reason for His love is that there isn't any evolution. He made the real you part of you, even if the rest of you came through your family line.

There hasn't been one example of evolution happening in nature without the influence of mankind being involved. There is no example of an evolution taking place naturally. And again, I am talking about Evolution Theory evolution.

Even observation, only, on the part of people is something that changes things according to QM.

You speak in Kamala Harris word salad. You deny scientific facts. You probably eat poopoo too. And you are often rude and arrogant. Hmm. Jesus does not like that.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I got to the point way back in my first post in this thread. You must have missed it.

There you go with your Kamala Harris word salads again. You cannot get to the point.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Now you are talking about word salads. Is your word salad made up of other word salads?

Does faith in QM have to do with math? Of course. There wouldn't be any QM without the mind of man. And that is where you find math, in the mind of man.

So what?

Have you been getting lessons on how to speak word salad from Kamala Harris? Because there is nothing we can learn from your word salads especially when they do not contain enough ham for Kenny the Tiger to be interested in them.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

What does believing or not believing that the laws of QM have to do with anything have to do with our talk?

And certainly the Ken Ham thing was just supposed to be an additional tidbit of info, right?

If you don't believe that the laws of quantum mechanics are laws that can be described mathematically, I cannot have a discussion with you. But I am glad that we both agree that Kenny the Tiger likes ham. I tried telling the legendary creationist Ken Ham that Kenny the Tiger likes ham, but Ken Ham was annoyed by me.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Laws of physics that incorporate genius in themselves, show this genius in mankind. An example is that people generally believe that there is math in nature, when anybody who thinks about it sees that math is only in the mind of man... not in nature at all. So, physics DOES show the genius of man found in nature. Lol.

Btw, TWITTER THE TIGER LIKES KENNY HAM.

We can see changes happening under the microscope. But the changes of evolution that are expressed in Evolution Theory have never been knowingly observed. Regarding people, the last one possibly happened a thousand years ago, if it is there. Nobody was looking. It's never been observed. At best, it has been hypothesized.

However, science fiction stories can be fun to read.

The evidence that you express shows that man is devolving. First, since God did it, it was an act of God's power. Second, the fact that people can't so easily control animals like that, shows the devolution. Third, the simple idea of evolution shows that man wants to look greater than he really is.

So, thanks for showing us how ignorant and devolved you are. There is some small thing in your favor there.

Um. Public schools and universities are the places that are breeding creationists because on one hand, they teach evolution (and they are right for doing so), but on the other hand, they are completely f@#$ed up, so they end up inadvertently breeding creationists much better than Ken Ham.

Biological evolution does not disprove any design for the underlying laws of physics. If you knew anything about quantum mechanics (I know a little bit about quantum mechanics not enough to pretend to be a physicist), you would know that the laws of the universe incorporate some genius into them. Saying that evolutionary computation requires design is like saying that biological evolution requires the laws of physics to be designed. But any design in the laws of physics does nothing to negate the theory of biological evolution.

Being wrong should not be a crime. Criminalization is not the way to solve problems. Except for obesity. We need to criminalize obesity right now.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Before I got banned from Twitter, I got blocked by legendary creationist Ken Ham for saying that KENNY THE TIGER LIKES HAM!



Kenny the tiger was living proof that white tigers are unnatural and unhealthy and people like Siegfried and Roy should stop breeding them. Natural selection works. Artificial selection does not work so well because the people who do the selection are idiots.

This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.

Your entire point is seven hundred dogs, at least ten million insects and two trillion bacteria (99.999 percent of them have yet to be discovered) stayed on a boat for forty days so they wouldn't drown.

Again, you are a hypocrite.  You come across (intelligence wise) as being limited by the boded items:

Source:  https://www.google.com/search?q=what+traits+does+intelligence+require


If you have any of those traits, you are not showing them.

You play games with your intelligence. Now, that wouldn't be so bad, but when you can't overcome a wise answer, you use foul language. Nobody is interested in your evolutionary computations.

If you cannot explain how I use evolutionary computation, then you have absolutely no intelligence.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Hmm. You seem to not believe in Covid-19 either. After all, the only way to deny evolution is to deny the existence of viruses because viruses evolve very quickly.

Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

You cannot explain how I used evolutionary computation to solve computational problems. You cannot provide a divine digital signature for your scriptures.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

I don't think you understand how science works. When something is proven to be wrong, people don't keep "believing" it. Thank is called religion, or a cult.

You are never going to convince anyone of anything sensible because humans are fucking morons. Universities promote violence, and humans are too fucked up to study on their own, so you can't expect them to learn anything. Bitcoiners cannot even understand that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science nor can they request for their documents to be cryptographically signed using a divine digital signature if they came from a deity.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

If you are allowed to talk to people outside your church, why not do yourself a favor and visit a dog breeder?  They can show you how they breed dogs that have random mutations they find positive.    Once observed, the random mutation is known.  Or do you think modern dog breeds were on the ark?

If you are allowed to read books outside your church, they may show you the breeding records you can validate yourself.   Thy might even let you take the records home so you can do in your own time, without pressure from the man.

We came from Mars, after the nuclear war there.

They believe whatever the pope tells them.   If your leader is brainwashed, find another cult.  No one forces you to listen to the pope other than yourself.

I know exactly how you feel. Here we are in the age of scientific thinking, and so many people believe in the evolution fairy tale without even thinking. And it wouldn't be so bad, but even after they are shown the science against evolution, they keep right on believing in it. Strange.

I think it's that they want religion so badly, that they will simply accept just about anything. Don't mean to talk against your religion, but...

I can't understand how an adult in the 21st century can still believe in bronze age fairy tales.

I think it is because the world can be a frightening place, and it is easier to just believe that you know everything.

I agree that the pope has no idea about reality.  I don't understand why you follow some of his holy words and not others. 

Evolution means different things with regard to different things. The standard evolution that we talk about in nature did not happen that we know of.

Evolved?  We have exact records of the mutations on the design.   Are you now admitting evolution is not random?

Please watch and understand those videos before you talk garbage.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You are so slow. The Model A evolved into the Model T, and the Model T into the Fords we have today.

Since you are talking evolution by design, you are saying that the Great Designer did it. But He doesn't talk in His Word like he evolved anything. He simply designed it, and then created it.

But that isn't what we were talking about regarding evolution.

Here are some YouTube videos where I train evolutionary algorithms to solve problems:

Factorization of a matrix where each entry is 1 into a product of three {0,1}-matrices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN_kQo5ELHY

Maximizing the spectral radius of a submatrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJuxu34Ey0

Maximizing the sum of a submatrix of a matrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqkcZoecgE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SCfcZmmbA

Making a bent vector.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtVJx0v3a9I


Making a Hadamard matrix with circulent cores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI_KKLPezAw

DeBruijn sequence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZ1mVbpGK8

Sum of a subtensor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adF2Wk2Ly8E

So yeah, evolutionary computation is a thing. It works because it does not rely on randomness alone because there is this thing called SELECTION which is non-random.

OK, I close my eyes while flipping the coins.   Will not change their values.  When someone later concludes that heads appeared more often, it can be verified by observation of the flipped coins.

You can do that because you watched the results of the flips. But since nobody saw any results of random mutations in action, nobody knows that they were the cause of evolution. Evolution talk is all hot air. Perhaps someday we will know what the random mutations were, but then they won't be random any longer. Because of the complexity involved, we will find that they were designed rather than spontaneous.

I don't think it is debated anymore.  Even the pope said we evolved, just under god's guidance.  


I'm going to flip a coin ten times.  The results are random.  But you can look at the results to see what they were.  Don't confuse random with unknowable.  

So,  you have a different kind of divine signature. Most people are happy to accept the miracle of the Bible as a divine sig.

However. Evolution Theory destroys the idea of evolution. It's in the word 'random'. What random mutations really are, is mutations that nobody knows what they were. Since nobody knows what the mutations were, how do they know that it was mutations at all?

That is not a divine digital signature. The scriptures need to be signed with a cryptographic signature. Some book has to be the best seller. That does not mean anything at all. You cannot go to the New York Times Best Sellers and pick a random book there and say it is from God.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Yes they do. But it is rather hidden. What is it? The Bible started around 1,500 BC. And over the years, it has increased in popularity until it is the best seller today, more than double the second one.

So, use your math to determine the odds for the popularity of the Bible, especially considering that other ancient writings have almost zero popularity these days.

Btw, that's just the tip of it.

Do those documents have their divine digital signatures?

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

The Bible says that the Earth was created about 7,500 years ago. Josephus, using Ancient Hebrew manuscripts says this, and the Septuagint says it.

The earth and universe were created in this general form in 6 days. Man was created in less than one.

The guy who wrote this in the Bible was a guy who did miraculous things that could not have been done without God backing him. It was the strength of Moses. He wrote the truth, the first 5 books of the Bible.

There is no evolution. Standard cause and effect says that there is nothing that comes about by action that is not set in place by what happened before it. The power to plan and build the universe, is power that can make anything in little or no time... including life.

The people on this site are incredibly uneducated chlurmcklets. I think that is because they went to universities, and these days, universities do not value education at all but would rather scam people and promote violence.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. If you are looking for the scriptures for guidance, make sure that the scriptures have been authenticated using a divine digital signature. I am willing to develop a divine digital signature protocl that a deity can use to authenticate the scriptures so that you can look to them for guidance. After all, why would a deity send a document signed with a divine digital signature UNLESS the people reading that document have done enough basic research to understand divine digital signatures and develop divine digital signature protocols. Once that happens, you should believe anything signed in that document.

These things exist in reality:

-Intelligence
-Shape and Form
-Purpose

A Crow can display intelligence like dropping a rock to break open a nut. All "Creatures" have Shape and Form, even plants. Every single thing you see with your own eyes has a purpose... from the hammer to the tree.

Why is it unreasonable to believe that whatever force "created" life has intelligence, shape and purpose?

In fact, even evolutionists believe in a force that created (big bang) only this force is the shape of a ball, unintelligent and without purpose.

Your own consciousness can testify to you that nothing is without purpose and intelligence cannot come from non-intelligence.

So ask yourself... is the Creator:

-An unintelligent ball of matter that created everything without purpose, shape or meaning?

-An intelligent being with Form that created all things with purpose and meaning?

I believe it's something in between. Even science predicts we would not have such diversity if it were only for evolution. There are some rapid mutations that lead us to here.
As of the origin its still unclear and we can call that force which created life and the world a divine one. But the divine power that created all would not be anywhere near the stupid myths people have created called god.

The debate on human origin is a long one

Where we created by a divine being???

Did we ultimately evolve from nothing??

Are there gray areas between these two point or are there as different as black and white.