Topic: Human trials of corona virus vaccine (Read 291 times)

In my opinion, we all need to develop a natural immunity against coronavirus but without vaccines, let alone compulsory ones. Weak people have always died and will continue to die and there is no stopping this process. Personally, I don't care what I die from. It's a natural selection and only it can make us stronger.

Koch:
3. The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.

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Rivers:
7. These sequence-based forms of evidence for microbial causation should be reproducible.

There is news emerging from Russia that a covid-19 vaccine being developed in the country has passed the phase of human trial, an excerpt of the news reads thus:

I think UK was way ahead in vaccine game and they have the right kind of partnerships to work efficiently led by huge manufacturer astra zeneca but after starting human trials there has been silence from them or maybe they will update about it after completion of trials. I hope humanity will get out of this trouble soon.

How are vaccines tested?
In the pre-clinical stage of testing, researchers give the vaccine to animals to see if it triggers an immune response.
In phase 1 of clinical testing, the vaccine is given to a small group of people to determine whether it is safe and to learn more about the immune response it provokes.
In phase 2, the vaccine is given to hundreds of people so scientists can learn more about its safety and correct dosage.
In phase 3, the vaccine is given to thousands of people to confirm its safety – including rare side effects – and effectiveness. These trials involve a control group which is given a placebo.

Sinovac
Chinese company Sinovac is developing a vaccine based on inactivated Covid-19 particles. The vaccine has shown a promising safety profile in the early stages of testing and is now moving into Phase 3 trials in Brazil.
University of Oxford/AstraZeneca
The University of Oxford vaccine is delivered via a chimpanzee virus, called the vaccine vector. The vector contains the genetic code of the protein spikes found on the coronavirus and triggers a strong immune response in the human body. The vaccine is in a combined phase 2/3 trial in the UK and has recently gone into phase 3 trials in South Africa and Brazil.
CanSino Biologics Inc./Beijing Institute of Biotechnology
The vaccine developed by Chinese company CanSino Biologics and the Beijing Institute of Biotechnology – a university close to the Chinese military – reportedly showed promising results in phase 2 testing, although no data from the trial has been published. In a world first, the vaccine has now been approved for military use, but it is unclear how broadly it will be distributed.
Moderna/NIAID
American biotech company Moderna is developing a vaccine candidate using messenger RNA (or mRNA for short) to trick the body into producing viral proteins itself. No mRNA vaccine has ever been approved for an infectious disease, and Moderna has never brought a product to market. But proponents of the vaccine say it could be easier to mass produce than traditional vaccines.

The economic problems have got nothing to do with the virus. The virus is just being used to collapse economies that are no longer viable due to toxic debt.

The 'flu shot doesn't work, and messes up your immune system. How are they going to create a vaccine for an RNA virus that mutates? Especially as they focus on antibodies, and those are just one of the ways that humans fight these viruses. Nature has spent thousands of years developing and testing safe ways to counter the multitude of viruses that we are exposed to every day, and we should be nurturing that, and not trying to destroy it by funding Bill Gates eugenics programmes.

The 'flu shot doesn't work, and messes up your immune system. How are they going to create a vaccine for an RNA virus that mutates? ~

I think this has now become an international business and any country which might successfully develop a vaccine would surely sell it at such prices and make it most advantageous to them. I often see in news everyday like Italy has developed vaccine, Germany developed etc etc, I don't think it's going to be this quick and we shouldn't really trust on any such news for the time.

Do you consider that maybe we have sophisticated instruments and equipment these days? The reason why the testing is bit fast. But anyway, it is your prerogative on how you want with this vaccination thing and as you said, you are very familiar with Russian ways on this aspect. And we will see how potent their vaccine will be in the years to come.

The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.

These sequence-based forms of evidence for microbial causation should be reproducible.

Many people are being encouraged to "Get Tested" for COVID-19 even if they aren't sick.  Docs are telling people "we just want to make sure."  BAD IDEA.   When you take a COVID-19 test, there is a fifty percent (50%) "Error Rate" in the test.

Turns out, according to the CDC, the present COVID-19 tests might come back "positive" if you've merely had the common cold!   That's right!  Because the "Common cold" is another coronavirus!  Here, Look at this from the CDC Web Site . . .



Here's a direct link to the CDC web site; read it for yourself HERE

So the test results are grossly unreliable.  But it gets worse . . . a LOT worse.

If your test comes back "positive" your name and address immediately goes into a State database shared with Police, Fire and EMS.  So if you call the police for anything . . . like an ambulance . . . a message comes up on the police dispatcher's computer telling them "Universal Precautions Required at this address."    Your so-called "medical privacy" under the HPPA laws . . .  GONE!

Once that message pops up in the police department, every cop, every fireman, every EMS worker in your town immediately knows someone in YOUR HOUSE is infected.  In small town America, the Gossip mill starts immediately.

It gets worse.  In California, the Child Protective Service is filing legal actions against parents who test positive, to TAKE THEIR MINOR CHILDREN AWAY until the parents are no longer positive!

I think UK was way ahead in vaccine game and they have the right kind of partnerships to work efficiently led by huge manufacturer astra zeneca but after starting human trials there has been silence from them or maybe they will update about it after completion of trials. I hope humanity will get out of this trouble soon.

There is news emerging from Russia that a covid-19 vaccine being developed in the country has passed the phase of human trial, an excerpt of the news reads thus:
This news cannot come quicker for countries that are yet to reach their peak and still losing countless numbers of their citizens to corona virus daily. How reliable can this information coming out from Russia be, and if it indeed is true, what does it mean to the world at large and how do you envisage the commercialization process of the vaccine.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/07/13/russia-completes-human-trials-of-covid-19-vaccine/amp/

A new study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases finds that children who received inactivated influenza vaccines were 440% more likely (relative risk: 4.40; 95% confidence interval: 1.31-14. to acquire infections of respiratory viral pathogens which are not influenza. With the aggressive push for influenza immunizations now under way, the medical establishment may be setting up children to be extremely vulnerable to coronavirus infections.

Titled, "Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine," the study is found at this link at the National Library of Medicine:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/



The study finds that flu shots quite literally inactivate parts of the human immune system, rendering the child more vulnerable to coronavirus infections. "Being protected against influenza, trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses," the study authors write.

The study authors explain that the influenza vaccine works to prevent influenza virus infections, but at the same time it makes children more susceptible to other respiratory infections. Since the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for seasonal influenza is so low (around 0.024%, which is not a typo), and the Infection Fatality Rate of covid-19 infections is at least one order of magnitude higher, it raises the obvious question:

Would it save more lives of children to avoid administering flu shots this year and therefore reduce their vulnerability to covid-19, which has a far higher fatality rate?

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Those who push flu shots may be worsening the coronavirus pandemic

It's the right decision. I also refuse vaccination because I live in Russia. I am very familiar with Russian "free" medicine and our bureaucracy.

I think that five years is enough to detect negative consequences of vaccination and at least 1000 volunteers.

it’s just been few months since they started the research, and normally a vaccine takes up to 10 year’s to be completed, hence I won’t be taking it even if it launches by this year’s end.

~ you’re absolutely correct as it’s just been few months since they started the research, and normally a vaccine takes up to 10 year’s to be completed, hence I won’t be taking it even if it launches by this year’s end. ~

There is news emerging from Russia that a covid-19 vaccine being developed in the country has passed the phase of human trial, an excerpt of the news reads thus:
This news cannot come quicker for countries that are yet to reach their peak and still losing countless numbers of their citizens to corona virus daily. How reliable can this information coming out from Russia be, and if it indeed is true, what does it mean to the world at large and how do you envisage the commercialization process of the vaccine.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/07/13/russia-completes-human-trials-of-covid-19-vaccine/amp/

I do not argue that the tests could show positive results, but in my opinion, too little time has passed for scientists to make sure that there are no threats to the body, as negative consequences may not appear immediately.

Elena Smolyarchuk, chief researcher for the Russian Center for Clinical Research on Medications at Sechenov University, told TASS newswire on Sunday that human trials for the vaccine had been completed and those test patients will be discharged soon.