Topic: Human's immortality (Read 634 times)

I guess I wrongly imagine that human immortality means that all humans with live forever. I suppose that for human immortality to be a reality, it would just take one person to live forever. I still don't think it's very likely any time soon. On one hand, people are resilient, but on the other hand we are quite fragile. People die just from tripping on the sidewalk and hitting their head. People will always die. I think that we'll continue to keep living longer, on average, but we'll still be dying.

This looks like a better idea than limiting the birth rate. Besides, I know people keep working on it and it's just a matter of time when we are able to leave the planet and start living somewhere out there on another planet.

To live an immortal life would be a blessing, however, I think that this will be expensive and only the wealthy people can afford this. Of course, time may come when said technology will become readily available and affordable for anyone, just like any technology, but for the first few years of its released, it will be highly expensive. Plus, some people in power might abuse it and declare themselves as gods, which will not be good for us all.

There are so many things that were just theories in that we thought we could not attain, and now here we are,curing diseases, flying in the skies, now I hear there is a cure for cancer and AIDS. That which has been proven difficult to attain, humans have in times without numbers has beaten all odds.
So would not be surprise to hear that 100% human immortality is possible. By the curing of disease is kind of prolonging human  life which I can term as partial human immortality.
Although it will take decades to attain this, but once this is discovered, it will be very expensive for many.

But what if the right technology was developed to cater to this human fragility that you mentioned? I mean, that’s part of the reason why tech is invented in the first place, right? To enhance and simply our lives. To compensate for our flaws and weaknesses. I think with the right kind of technology, humans can be capable of achieving immortality.

Yes, it certainly seems like humans are far too fragile to be immortal. I definitely think that life expectancy will continue to increase, but there must be some limit. Technology is improving very quickly. Modern medicine has allowed us to eliminate many of the diseases that used to kill millions. Even now, there are many cases when people die "of old age". Doctors and coroners are literally unable to determine the cause of death. I'm sure this will still happen, even when we eliminate diseases like cancer.

Aubrey de Grey has some pretty interesting thoughts on the subject.

De Grey's research focuses on whether regenerative medicine can thwart the aging process. He works on the development of what he calls "Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence" (SENS), a collection of proposed techniques to rejuvenate the human body and stop aging. To this end, he has identified seven types of molecular and cellular damage caused by essential metabolic processes. SENS is a proposed panel of therapies designed to repair this damage.

I think human's immortality life is impossible.There is no medicine in the world which will make us immortality.To achieve immortality many pursuits and theories are needed.Many have achieved immortality in history,but there is no explanation for this.

More and more reports nowadays are painting a virtual world in the future where it is possible for human consciousness to be digitized.

Yes, it is true that there are a lot talks and studies going on about the future with humans transitioning to a virtual world. The technology is possible, it simple needs time to fully implement it. Awesome, right?

I don't think that there is a way scientist could make people live forever. They have tried to invent something so that our lives would be longer. But still, even now with all these new technologies, they haven't come up with anything. That is because we can't control how long we will live.
And eternal life is pointless. It won't be interesting to live forever.

Everything in this world is coming to an end and even the world itself. The earth is coming to its destruction. What good will it be for a man if he lives forever but in a decaying and passing world? What kind of life will there be?

man will not be eternal, man will meet his death, his death is written before man is born into the world, eternal man is man who is in his own movie story if i think wkwkwkwk, whose name human will surely die, man in this world will surely die on Judgment Day one day.

Being immortal is not so much fun for humans who have weaknesses. I do not think it's important for humans to be immortal if they do not have a definite purpose

Human Immortality is eternal life, being exempt from death, unending existence.

Until mankind invents technologies to explore the entire galaxy,hundreads or thousands of years will past.And if people find out how to become immortal it will be a diaster because of overpopulation,and probably there would be many social conflicts between those who can afford it and those who can't

Ray Kurzweil has predicted immortality for human beings already in a few decades, possibly he is hoping to benefit from that himself. Kurzweil is among other things chief of AI researchers of Google.

I am actually thinking, what if the scientist really do achieve the formula for the human being to become immortal. Imagine that there would be no death for the rest of the century then sum it up with another billions of birth. Then deduct the current state of the earth's resources (Conclusion: The total earth's resources is not enough and would last for years if not decade)

Therefore, Scientist first should create another place where humans could leave and survive because death provides a balance in the system and that is how it should be in the first place. On the other hand I am very skeptical to this type of topic 

i thought it was immorality ahahh.. as infinite as this universe 

While immortality will remain only a dream for centuries to come no matter how forward the science goes, it cannot be achieved because the human body is made by cells which die with the passing of time. The dying of cells is responsible for a human being ageing,i.e getting old. You cannot produce all the needed cells which are needed to keep a person alive in lab conditions.

The choice of eternal life is for the one who is happy, but not when it is frustrating. Many have attempted suicide.
Life is dynamic, not always find pleasure.
Perhaps if the way to live eternally is found one day, many people are frustrated because the debt still has to pay some money to end his life. lol

I don't think immortality is achievable, because God in His own wisdom has made it such that He alone lives forever and has made a provision for every human being under the sun  to rest after he/she has spent a number of years earth which could be heaven or hell.

I don't think that science would go far beyond this. I believe that death is somehow inevitable and if it's your then it is. But I'm not saying that it isn't possible. As science continues to become advanced, it is not blurry to see for them to make human immortal. We don't know. Maybe, scientist should more focused in dealing with finding cure in some certain diseases that makes the life of human lesser. I think that through that, scientist can somehow extend the life of many people who suffer on the specific diseases.

A person becomes immortal only after he first dies, his soul leaves the body, and after that, the body disappears in the surrounding matter, through an unknown time interval, it will be restored and the soul will return to the body. After this, the person will live forever.

If we could live forever, there'd not be much point to live in the first place.
Plus, at some point, all life in the universe shall die. Unless we bypass that.

But why, what's the point?
Part of life is death, so better start living!

Here's a really interesting little story

I never wanted to be immortal. Its one of the saddest thing that can happen to a human being. Seeing everyone died and generations passed and still alive because of immortality can make a person lonely. You will have all the things in the world but knowing that everyone around you will leave you someday can leave a person empty. I watched an anime like this and it made me realize that immortality is not the answer.

No one knows if there is life again after death, for example as we sleep and dream, we do not realize what happened and we do not remember what we feel. Life is very difficult to guess, it seems if we talk about death is frightening. According to the teachings of religion, after death, there is an eternal life where we live 2 choices of heaven and hell, and that depends on how your life becomes a good or evil person.

Human "Absolute" Immortality may seem possible due to the rapid developments of technology today. No one knows when would man discovers a way to extend a person's life repeatedly, but thinking about it makes me doubt if man would dare to live longer in this world because of some reasons. The first is the emotional reason. Prolonging life would also mean prolonging disappointments, heartaches and all of the things that makes people want to quit life. Second is the philosophical reason, it will make this life worthless. Imagine, if you are to have forever to live, how will you value every single day that passes by? Third is the Financial reason, granting that Science will be able to grant people eternal life, it will surely come at a cost and with that comes the question, who will be able to afford to live forever? Last is the economical reason. If no one will die, how will you make the world's resources enough for the people of the planet? where will you build houses? where will you get the food to feed them? It will be a big problem because it will exponentially increase the population of the world.

Achievable through technology? I doubt that this will happen, if immortality is boundless by time, then there is no technology will be useful to surpass the mortality. Its illogical.

I will not set aside the possibility of immortality to happen in the future because no one can really tell. However, if we are going to consider the circumstances and the knowledge that the most intelligent people has, I do not think that it is feasible at this time. Greatest scientists of our planet may have achieved so many marvelous inventions and creations but we need also to realize that we have so much to learn still. Although we have come this far when it come to technological and scientific breakthroughs, we must need to understand also that we have a long way to go when it come to creating those especially about immortality. Again, I am not convinced yet that we can attain immortality as we aren't in the stage where we have discovered that it is possible.

God's sake someone keep Infinity Gauntlet from you

Just joking =p

I really agree with you, there no why so many ppl in the world. There is simply no how to with that many ppl to feed, shelter, take care and etc

There is one strange problem... China alreay forbiden ppl from having more than one kid and their population is one of the biggest of the world, dunno what to think about this

Sure. But it is pretty close to it.
Also considering it adds double digit number of centuries to your lifetime you are more than likely to witness future scientific breakthrough`s and make it "a real thing" later on.

Immortality is one of the great projects of our age - some of our best minds are working on it. If it's a problem that can be solved via engineering (and there is no reason to believe that it's not), we will solve it.

As to whether death is a blessing or a curse, we won't know until we achieve immortality, won't we?

No it's not. Your head is what matters, not the body. Your brain will age no matter how many body switches you make and eventually your brain will die. That's not even close to immortality. The biggest advantage to that is that any disease in your body that doesn't affect your head can be ''treated'' by switching your body. Still very early on that technology tho.

Immortality is already technically possible by plugin ones head onto new healthy body every 100 years or so.

You can google "Sergio Canavero" or "Valery Spiridonov" for more technical details.
Whether it will become popular or widespread in the future remains an open question due to various moral and cultural implications.

Immortality is one of mankind’s major apprehensions, and even though it has been mainly restricted to religious customs. People have different opinions about immortality. Everybody defines immortality differently. For some people it is the survival of the astral body resembling the physical body, for others the immortality of the immaterial soul and lastly the resurrection of the body. Basic definition of immortality is the unknown continuation of a person’s existence, even after death. Immortality primarily referred to soul as it like it does not die when the human body dies, but since they both well connected together, when the body dies, soul dies too; therefore, immortality does not exist.

That's right. All people will die and they are bound to die. God will create a new heaven and earth. That is also true that human are intelligent and can do even the impossible thing. I dont think it will  manifest and will come to reality. Gods plan will be destroyed. Human has still limitations.

black mirror had a pretty interesting episode about this. in the episode your mind was uploaded to a server and you continued living in a machine simulation. such solution could become viable and would not destroy the ecosystem.

i'd rather agree with the statement that death is a must-have in a way as the eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.

I agree with you, that immoral and useless life that has immortality is shameful, I believe that man has a beginning and end. it is the law of causality

I think the transfer of the consciousness of a person would be the more practical method of immortality since as soon as birth the human body has time limit on it. Some of the elites of the world have some secret and I believe that immortality may be one because the rich always want to live forever. Correction everyone wants to live forever.

Physical immortality is a state of life that allows a person to avoid death and maintain conscious thought. It can mean the unending existence of a person from a physical source other than organic life, such as a computer. Active pursuit of physical immortality can either be based on scientific trends, such as cryonics, digital immortality, breakthroughs in rejuvenation or predictions of an impending technological singularity, or because of a spiritual belief.

Why do people keep saying that, if science gets to a point where it can make someone immortal, it would be able to make everyone immortal. You are thinking about it as if only you could be immortal and not anyone else.

First of...a person would want to be immortal.

The question is, is that a wise desicion? Seeing all your friends and relatives dies off while you live on forever?

Thats is if you want to and they do not. I can only imagine what living forever does to the brain too.

I think there will be a time the human mind will be able to be transferred into a computer like brain that will allow a person to
continue existance forever.

On my end, I think a person should allow nature to take its course and when dead to move on into the spirit world as God intended.

Then again to each his own.

Immortality is one of the central questions for humanity. It has been sought for thousands of years, and this is how religion appears: an idea related to the eternal life. So, in one hand, I don't understand why believers ask for immortality, for they already have it since they are all going to the "heaven".

Nevertheless, is an interesting question. Think about how many things humankind would achieve if some are immortals. For instance, Hawkins. Let's imagine how far he should go in science if he lived forever.
Regarding natural issues, immortality probably would end the humankind. We need to die in order to evolve. This is the mean reason of mortality (according to Asimov, for instance), the ability to give the next generation a code modified by the circumstance If we don't die, then the specimen can' t evolve and it, probably, will mean its end. I think this is applicable to the world of the ideas. I mean, if the elders don't die, maybe the ideas neither evolve as they are doing, but this is really subjective.

Anyway, if humankind achieve immortality, this will be used by a few, the ones with enough money for paying for it.

Well i don't think we're meant to live forever. We're never supposed to go beyond the time that's given to us and science would probably have a very hard time to apply any immortality aspect to a human. Regeneration would have it's boundaries so we still are going to die one way or another

Humans have long been fascinated by the idea of immortality and have been pursuing it for centuries.

Ancient Greek alchemists once tried to find a 'Philosopher's Stone' to obtain immortality, but were unsuccessful.

In recent decades, the average life expectancy in many countries has increased drastically and now most, healthy individuals in the UK can expect a life duration of about 80 years.

With the rapid development of technology and an increasing scientific understanding of the flaws of the human body, some people to believe that immortality is closer now than it has ever been before.

In the late 20th Century, an idea called cryonics was founded - the ability to bring someone back to life after death.

Now, futurologists think that humans will be able to live forever thanks to a combination of tech advances.

There are now three schools of thought for how people will be able to endure permanently.

Option one: Body regeneration

Scientists have already managed to grow chemicals, tissues and organs in the lab and as technology advances in this field.

Combined with 3D printing and reversing the ageing of cells, our bodies may last longer than ever before.

Option two: Robotic body replacements

Robots are becoming better and more human-like all the time, and we may be able to upload a human consciousness into an android in the future.

Option three: A virtual world

Virtual reality and Augmented reality have started to blur the lines between the tangible and the artificial.

Humans have long been fascinated by the idea of immortality and have been pursuing it for centuries.

Ancient Greek alchemists once tried to find a 'Philosopher's Stone' to obtain immortality, but were unsuccessful.

In recent decades, the average life expectancy in many countries has increased drastically and now most, healthy individuals in the UK can expect a life duration of about 80 years.

With the rapid development of technology and an increasing scientific understanding of the flaws of the human body, some people to believe that immortality is closer now than it has ever been before.

In the late 20th Century, an idea called cryonics was founded - the ability to bring someone back to life after death.

Now, futurologists think that humans will be able to live forever thanks to a combination of tech advances.

There are now three schools of thought for how people will be able to endure permanently.

Option one: Body regeneration

Scientists have already managed to grow chemicals, tissues and organs in the lab and as technology advances in this field.

Combined with 3D printing and reversing the ageing of cells, our bodies may last longer than ever before.

Option two: Robotic body replacements

Robots are becoming better and more human-like all the time, and we may be able to upload a human consciousness into an android in the future.

Option three: A virtual world

Virtual reality and Augmented reality have started to blur the lines between the tangible and the artificial.



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yes that's so true and why not hybridization our DNA from this creatures, every thing is possible.

Living forever is not realistic for human being without dying?,,although nothing can possible to science that human body  can replaced the robot  to long live forever as immortal,, but in reality how could you say that this system can really adapt for those people believe in god? because according to the bible life is temporary here  in this earth because god well come and  people who those believes  in him we put together in  heaven because heaven is our home and life of heaven can forever ,i don't blame of science and technology because i believe this theory has temporary,,

No it's not. There are animals that are biological immortal. https://www.rd.com/culture/animals-that-live-forever/

I think they are referring more in a metaphoric/indirect way. The internet remembers everything.

According to me , eternal life would not be good for human beings because Living endless makes people feel empty and miserable. Death is the only thing which makes our life meaningful for sure. On the other hand, I do not think eternal will happen in the near future.

I agree.
The presence of death makes life so precious!
Read Greek mythology's stories about gods to see how actually miserable immortality would be if we would have it in human form.

This theory does not and cannot exist in the life of humanity.
One of the characteristics of living things is that they die.It is
an inevitable natural course instituted by the creator.No matter how
hard science tries, human or living cells die.Summarily, living things
inclusive of mankind must obey the natural law.Immortality is probably
for inorganic matter and other realms of existence.

of course that is what the majority believes right now, but if we go back into the time a few centuries we will consider that our actual life it's as a block of miracles. everything is possible with science.

More interesting will be, if we invent cryocamera to freeze people. Like it was in the Futurama

Intersting idea, but the technological limits to such a project are pretty vast - regardless, let's maybe forget about those and ask ourselves, would we want to? Would u want to be, say uploaded to a virtual world to live perhaps forever? Personally, I wouldnt...

Immorality would be boring and your life would be useless.
There's a great saying in a popular Hollywood movie
"you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

We thought that human immortality is about every single human escaping death
But is about continue existing
Which means giving birth and developing and creating certain environment to survive and avoid extinction

Not necessarily. If humans can become truly immortal, we could explore the entire galaxy and believe me, we have plenty of planets there to live and spread, we wouldn't need to stop having children at all.

Well only God is immortal
It is written man will die once and after death judgement.
No matter how hard the scientists try no one can live forever.
Eventually if they invented something to elongate lifes it'll be super expensive. So to cap it all human's immortality is not a issue to discuss at all

I think that if a serious extension of life becomes a reality, it will be very expensive. Otherwise, it is necessary to limit the birth rate, or even forbid people to have children.

I think it will be the quantitative physics, but i'm not sure exactly how the principle works and if it affects human rights or not !!

I doubt that such technology would be released in masses. It would be used by chosen to rule the humanity.

Immortality is eternal life, being exempt from death, unending existence.

Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers have theorized about the immortality of the human body, with some suggesting that human immortality may be achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century.

On the other hand, some believe that death is a divine blessing  and eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.