Topic: Hundreds Injured by COVID Vaccines Turn to GoFundMe for Help With Expenses (Read 246 times)

i dont treat our UK public services as "free" like having sex on the first date.
yes at the point of "service" the sex is free.. but you did have to pay for the date to earn the right to pull pants down later

however UK public services dont charge if found that you didnt pay enough tax earlier
                                        dont refuse care if found that you didnt pay/cant pay tax
                                       (dont charge if you didnt go on a date first)-prostitution
                                       {dont refuse sex if you didnt pamper woman}-golddigger
in short UK woman will still have sex with men even if the guy hasnt spent a penny on her
where as US woman will only put-out if the guy pays up in some way(pamper or pay)


yep. people out of work that have no income still get treated the same as an employed person..
.. there is no credit check/insurance check/tax check when being admitted to a hospital in the UK

americans dont seem to get the understanding of how the UK system works

I take your point. It's free at the point of service... but yes, agreed, everything has to be paid for through some form of taxation... roads, police, fire services... and medical services. But even if you have no employment or income, you still get healthcare provision. It's a right rather than a privilege.

Mortality as a percentage of cases is low, yes... but when number of cases is so huge, the number of deaths inevitably becomes large - and exacerbated by health services being overrun.
It dropped in summer, yes. Here in the UK the lockdown was lifted when case numbers became very low, at the beginning of summer... so that is I think the primary reason. Also it's not like cases dropped in summer 2020 and then have remained low ever since. Here we had a huge second spike starting in late 2020. There is certainly a seasonal element to it, as there is with other coronaviruses, but the link between case numbers and lockdowns is overwhelmingly strong.

I'm going to remind you of something you already know even when you say that: it's not free. If you live in the UK, they will be deducting a percentage of your salary to pay for health care, as it is done in all countries.

Calling it free healthcare is misleading. Another thing is that I agree more with a system like the UK NHS than with the US system.


We discussed this at one time, and it is not very explainable that there was a huge spike for a disease with such a low mortality. Before vaccines started to be given, it already dropped, in summer 2020. Here I think other factors came into play.

No. Disregard reason (I don't mean in your usual way, I mean reason for death). Look at excess deaths in total, i.e. how many more deaths there were than usual. For the time since the start of the pandemic, look at the excess deaths both before and after widespread vaccination. Compare and contrast. Don't start saying 'it says they died of x but really they died of y'. Don't bring reason for death into it. Something caused a huge death spike during the Covid pandemic, and the death spike has gone with the vaccine rollout. What might be the explanation?

The excess death count from the vaccine is far greater than the excess death count from Covid. It's listed right in the county records all across the United States. I expect it's similar for other countries... like Spain where the courts even ruled that Covid deaths were really only 0.9% of what the medical had said... and Italy with only 12% of Covid deaths really being from Covid... and the US with only 6% of Covid deaths really being from Covid. Vaccine deaths have this beat easily with as many as 900,000 vaccine deaths in the USA - VAERS + Harvard.

And don't tell me those VAERS/Harvard deaths were determined anecdotally, and not scientifically scientifically. Why not? Because that's the way literally all of the Covid deaths were determined. How can that be? Because the CDC admitted to not even having a sample of Covid on hand for comparison. And nobody can even find the record of Covid isolation ever having been done. Nobody really even knows what Covid IS!

hundreds of thousands dead from vaccine?
ok show me the excess death rate from february 2021 to now
show me the more deaths since february than before february 2021

what you will find is the vaccine has saved alot of people from dying from covid. and even if you combine in deaths from vaccine the excess deaths are super low to the period where covid was wild and there was no vaccine

oh  and if you think its a poison.
realise there are less allergic reactions via the vaccine than a peanut
so you better start saying a peanut is a super super super super poison

go on.. cry to the world how you think a peanut should be banned
cars kill more people. so go cry how cars should be banned
wait.. i got it.. guns.. yea go cry about how you want guns banned

When a missionary goes to a new country, say, in backward Africa, the first thing he tries to do is communicate. Since you obviously don't understand that people are being harmed in a big way from the vaccines, I need to talk your language a little.

The point isn't the healthcare or the health care. The point is that vaccines are poison. This one just happens to be a non-vaccine super-poison being called a vaccine, so that people who trust vaccines will take the super-poison that they wouldn't have otherwise.

Standard f1. Always trying to evade the important point by arguing semantics.

So, what are you going to say now? That I always evade the points by calling your talk semantics? Wake up. Thousands - maybe hundreds of thousands - dead from the mRNA serum, and as many as millions more harmed from it, and all you want to do is argue about the semantics of semantics?

frank1 = part of the killing off of thousands.

also available in health food stores is querecetin, this is a zinc ionophore just like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. the purpose is to help/ensure zinc enters the infected cell.

It’s very early days in this new real vaccine pandemic and some claim NAC is best choice for now.
Apparently helps with blood clots and detoxification.
N-acetyl cystein an antioxidant amino acid is was available over-the-counter at your local health food store.
You cant have that people doing all they can to deal with effects of the bad decision.

asked and answered.

by the way.. arnt you the guy thats against funded healthcare. weren't you recently arguing that people should self fund their healthcare and not rely on others
(your rants about big-corp control of healthcare)

well your emma example is where she and her family dont have to pay.. so no loss. but you do not realise what she is begging for is extra income from donators for non medical lifestyle stuff

You are so backwards. Anybody can file virtually any kind of claim with any agency or company. This doesn't mean a claim will be heard to say nothing of being accepted and paid. People need funding like yesterday, to cover rehabilitation.

The rate of deaths shown by VAERS is accelerating. Over 9,000 now, up from 6,800 June 25th.That's 2,000 in 2 weeks. But that's just the tip of it. Check it out https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data. And you want to complain about a few people who are trying to get help from GoFundMe.

Not only should you feel ashamed, but you should be shamed right out of the forum for posts like the one I quoted above.

badecker claims that people cant sue the vaccine companies and thus his belief is that people have no recourse/compensation method.

here is the funny thing though
the government has taken over the administration and insurance of vaccine injury, meaning its far faster and simpler and easier to make a claim through the government process than it is to try suing the vaccine company direct.

yes people can still make claims of vaccine injury. its just handled easier faster and with less headache via the government.

all these 'go fund me' types are just money grabbers that want to play on the ignorance of others with sob stories that say they cant get bills paid. yet their bills have been paid
so no noone should support these greedy opportunists

emma burkey for instance:
"The family is counting on most costs to be covered by insurance. They learned of the compensation program during a call from U.S. Senator Catherine Cortez Masto’s office. The Nevada Democrat’s staff have also contacted HHS and will monitor Burkey’s case “to ensure the family gets the support they deserve.”

If the first bill to the Burkeys is any indication, the cost of Emma’s medical care may run into the millions of dollars. Her insurance provider has already agreed to cover the long-term rehab she’ll need,"


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even funnier is that people with covid symptoms or vaccine side effects do not have to pay. as thats all to do with the cares act.
however any 'out- of-medical' expense such as what most stupid states do its treat the EMS ambulance as a private transport. people can claim out of expense losses with the government program
the 'compensation' element is more about seeking damages for 'pain and suffering and ptsd and all the other crybaby stuff' to get rich quick after bills are paid and not the medical bill itself which is taken care of by the cares act


in short. no treatment medical bill.
any cases where a medical bill has been generated out of error. can be sent to the government health administration department to handle

but any private-transport or loss of earnings due to not being able to work can be claimed via the government program

With just the vaccination injury prior to the scamdemic, paying for damages would have completely sunk the nation economically.  Many times over in fact.

So what to do when you've already gone way to far?  To borrow a line from Platoon:

  Let's go all the way, let's go for it!  Let's do the whole fucking village.

I know that it sucks but these people should've been compensated by the government because the government pressuring the vaccine manufacturers to speed up the process when vaccines should be perfected and now with the lack of clinical trial, the people now becomes the guinea pigs for the incomplete vaccine.

At this point anyone who got the death jab had some legal ability to say 'no' because it is classified as an unapproved experimental drug trail.

I feel bad for the many thousands of people who were harmed by the gene therapy already and for whom there is no help from corp/gov, but if they would have researched more they would have understood that this is how things would go so they are at least partly culpable.  Some people would play Russian roulette to keep their jobs.  As a matter of fact it is very common to take risks on-the-job, and I've done so on many occasions...prior to my work in Silicon Valley at least.  That's a personal choice.  A decent government should protect it's citizens from having to make this choice in the first place when it comes to being subjects of big pharma experiments, but that speaks to 'the government' as much as anything.  If/when people have had enough they can make an effort to get something better...though they will probably make the wrong choices and get their same problems but multiplied by a factor of 10.

The peeps excuses that they didn't really understand the risks is certainly viable, but I'll wait to try to help people who were forced at gunpoint.  And from listening to the press releases from the U.S. and other 'developed' countries like NZ, it doesn't look like it will be a long wait.  Already there are fairly legitimate looking vids of old Indian women being chased out into the fields by armed men and syringe toting women to be force injected.  Seems that the culling has begun, and as has been written about for 100 years by the likes of the Fabian Socialists, it's the people who suck down resources and don't work efficiently (e.g., the old and infirm) who should be prioritized.

Wow! Lifted head out of sand-hole enough to see that people are getting hurt by the vaccines.

Citing a few individual instances from a pool of many many millions of people, and expecting us to take it as representative of a general trend is utterly absurd.
And the quote even states this, using its own numbers, as the previous poster said.
But I appreciate you at least attempting to use maths as the basis for an argument, even if you've failed so dramatically.

Sounds like this is the thing that you find most outrageous. Your best bet is probably to vote for a candidate who supports a free healthcare system. Here's a link to get you started.

Ah BADecker's still here then, peddling pills, begging for Bitcoin, preaching the word of his god etc? Hah brilliant.

More than 180 people is not hundreds, that has to be at least 200 people. How many of these people genuinely had non-psychosomatic side effects? Probably less than 10%

How many people have been vaccinated in the US alone? Over 300,000,000 doses. So even 200/300,000,000 = 0.0000067% i think.

Is this the "truth of the dangers" that you're talking about BADecker? Because it doesn't look too dangerous to me. I bet more Americans get injured/die fallling into the toilet, than from any Covid vaccine currently in use there.

Yes, the truth of the dangers of the vaccines are finally coming into view in the public. If you take the vaxx, now, after seeing this... well, it's your own stupid fault.

No

Do you want to help with medical expenses of people who were harmed by the vaccine? There is law that you can't sue the vaccine companies if you are damaged by their vaccines. Loads of vaccine injured have turned to GoFundMe for help with medical bills.

In addition, the government fund for helping these people can't do it. Why not? Because the vaccines are not fully approved for medical use by the FDA. They are only approved for emergency use.

Go to the site to see the many links to GoFundMe pages of people in trouble, harmed by the vaccines.


Hundreds Injured by COVID Vaccines Turn to GoFundMe for Help With Expenses