Topic: I am flabbergasted that it actually happens on this scale (Read 814 times)

I am not malicious enough to develop such a system but I can guarantee that there are people out there who use scripts/bots to automatically copy and paste answers from one thread to another where there is a similar topic or question asked.  And they are likely doing a crappy job. Wink  I would atleast use a NLP algorithm to 'paraphrase' the answers.  (lots of them out there)

Fortunately accounts doing this can be easily tagged over time, though the benign forum crawling limit will means it will take awhile. 

When I am done wallowing in a little depression after my team at Oyster mutineed on me (still love you guys) and get back to the bitcointalk visualization project we should definitely add this to the shitposter modeling tasks.

But most people posting here are paid agents at best, puppet trolls at worse because they are running adverts in the footers of each post they make
and it's is these types of accounts that talk FUD all day long on the main forum and keep pumping old outdated posts back to the top of the forum.

It's starting to look like Twatter on BCT where bots are talking to bots, I know because I wrote one for twatter years ago after the political correct
censorship kicked in.

Just saying like.

Also, if they will have a merit requirement for Full Members and above before participating bounty campaigns. Requiring a Full Member rank and above is not enough, because there are still a lot of them who are lucky enough to reach the rank before the merit system was implemented.


LOL. His personal text was set to "Road to Member" and he is probably thinking that he will get merited by making that kind of post but on the contrary, he did not.

Non of this surprises me and I don’t think there is a quick fix.

If you change one think to stop shit posting and alt account then another thing will pop up.

There needs to be an on going effort to clean things up and seeing people in those alt groups lots not times and not being banned or even tagged is encouraging them. Bounty managers need to agree to banning people from their bounties that are on the shit list so there is no incentive to enter lots.

We joke about ‘good iso sir’ comments but they count as sig posts all the time. Why can’t they be given no stakes for that week that will slow them down.

You know we all thought the ozone layer was fucked and it was lots of small changes that fixed it and not one big one. Bitcointalk isn’t fucked it just needs some help from us all to make it healthy again.

In short, someone gave you dhop. And you believed.

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dhop- _{verb; pronounced "Dhawp",} - is a slang in Bengali; the phrase loosely means one or more claims, which are - to put it mildly - of doubtful accuracy. Like for example, I work in 200 bounties.

(definition adapted from : source)

Also,
Loved the fact how a post about dhop from shitposters derailed into the pro's & cons of the metric system.

I will gladly tell you I'm not a merit source, because it's a true one.  I'm not.  From the very beginning I've supported the merit system; I believe in it, and thus I try to give out all the merits I have to people who deserve them.  I've given out all the ones that were airdropped in January and all the sMerits I've earned from people who gave them to me.  But no, I'm not a source.  Did you ever see me apply to be one?  I didn't, because then I'd have the responsibility to give them out and I just don't want that (though it's crossed my mind).

As to the second part of what I quoted here, I think Facebook is one of the most evil creations ever shat out upon mankind and I won't have anything to do with it--so I'm not aware of what you can and can't do on the site.  I did have an account, briefly, years ago, but I've forgotten much of how it works.  Never had a Twitter account.

And if you can block friends from posting bounty-type spam (and I'm sure that's exactly what sane people do), how effective are these bounties in advertising?  These spammers are participating in dozens of bounties at once and probably employing alt accounts within the same bounty, and that's a massive amount of spam.  I can't imagine who wouldn't block people from posting on their FB or Twitter accounts.

You have given away so much merit in drips and draps, you are telling me you are not a merit source?
 
You can easily hide posts from certain users on facebook.

Theres a local crypto group on facebook for my area, and the guy literally built a "cloud-mining" company from scratch, and like does weekly meetups with people to tell them how their "mining" is doing, he even funded money/btc to buy "miners" crazy how navie people are

LOL.  Can somebody give this guy a merit for me?  And this appraisal is spot-on too.

I am thankful that most of the idiotic bounty posters confine themselves to spam threads, and only come to excellent sections like Meta when they want to take their chances sophisticatedly-begging for merits, which they don't ever get.  It's unfortunate that they're ruining the largest section of bitcointalk (Bitcoin Discussion), but I just stay away from there.

These people do spam social media like nothing else, and I'd be pissed if I had friends who polluted my Twitter feed with this crap, or my Facebook wall.  As I mentioned, I don't use either one of those services, so I'm good.

Whats the difference between a signature campaign and being in a bounty program?

If the bounty program only has a thread listed here and than requires off site posting I don't see the issue with that, there aren't even that many signature campaigns running. I think it would be fairly easy to see who has multiple accounts in them

I'm getting swamped with twitter and youtube email notifications. I don't remember signing up, but I suppose I must have at some stage. I don't read any of them, and I'll probably just do a bulk delete.

I am not using telegram from more than one and half month. Unfortunately I have joined with a lot of groups (cryptocurrency related) these guys posts tons of messages. Information overloaded actually. I thought to remove them then again thought let it be like that since I am not using the telegram that much.

200 bounties at the same time is a feat. I wonder if that guy gets regular sleep at all.

When those Bounty Hunters come across your thread!  


This forum is dead due to the insane bawnty hunters registering and spamming to the core for 50-100$. We will never get back a clean forum as it was, until bawnty hunters leave this forum or the whole lot of Btc and Alt Discussion boards are moved to Trashcan.

Ah,is it Bounty or Bawnty? Most of the shitposters spell them as Bawnty!  

EDIT : Meme is spell checked 

I can get that its worth it, however its still impressive someone can manage so many bounties.. having to post/retweet/like 200 different campagnes every day?! That takes some serious micro and macro management skills.

I believe the consensus will be that they damage the community and the forum as a whole, if that is the case then it will be down to Theymos to fix it with some fancy new system. I would say 50%+ of these participants are spamming shit and providing no value to the ICO's anyway, so to me it's theft, same as multi accounts with signatures, thes people are stealing from the community. it is creating an ecosystem of total shite

Yup I agree with you, judging by some of the quotes you provided they are actually proud of what they are doing and their co-hunters are actually envying the time and dedication of the one who is participating 40 bounty campaigns. What I am not agreeing is stopping all the bounty campaigns of ICOs, maybe filtering them is a better option. Before they can create ANN threads and a bounty campaign thread they need to go through a screening process on whether or not their threads can be published in the forum.

Nice "profession" he's got. Professional spammer, world is getting weirder every day.
If he's doing so many bounties, he's accounts are pretty much worthless, and with the amount of bounty campaigns being scams that don't pay, he's doing half of his work for free. That rodney guy says he has 2 accounts in sig campaigns, somebody should find his forum polluting socks.

The metric system is actually much better. That's why it's being used in physics.
Every time I hear imperial it reminds me of medieval times. Like i'm about to hear "one ell of cloth for a penny" in the distance.

It's more about the culture that it breeds, the self entitled fucks that then move onto sig campaigns. There were a few people in that thread talking about multiple accounts for signatures as well. My belief is that these "hunters" come here for bounties, then see the higher paying sig campaigns and then want some of the action, if there were no bounties being organised here then Much fewer registrations would be happening

The EU does that. It makes the sums they claim from member states seem smaller. They also use the metric system, because that makes body parts seem larger.

Hey there TMAN as far as I know Facebook, Twitter and other Social Media Bounties does not directly affect BCT as a forum. Unlike Signature Campaigns where you are required to post here in BCT, Bounty campaigns only requirement is to share their tweets, fb post, Reddit post etc. which does not directly affecting the forum, they are not contributing to any kind of Spam or Shitposting outside their subforum.

But thinking of it differently I can say that they are not abusing any campaign rules as most of the Bounty Campaigns does not prevent you from participating to other bounty campaigns, this way the members are maximizing their time to participate in a lot of bounty campaigns. But I did not say what they are doing is good but in other sense is bad as they are sharing to the social media a lot of Altcoins which maybe some of it will turn out to be a scam or if the investor is new to Altcoins will eventually lose his/her money from trading or even holding the cryptocurrency. All of these is bad advertising where the participant will share right away and let others see, what they are doing is simply irresponsible campaigning.

40 thousand. Some countries use a . Not a ,  gets confusing as fuck. 

It that forty dollars, or forty thousand dollars?

Forty thousand dollars worth of tokens yeah, but certainly not USD.

For Telegram bounties all bounty hunter have to do is apply with BTT account, Telegram username and ETH address.

For Twitter and Facebook bounties bounty hunter must keep track of the retweets and likes.

It is probably worth it, if they can collect ~40.000$ in less then year.

No idea how you are supposed to manage 200 bounties like that... how do you even keep up with every single bounty? Is it even worth it?

They also misuse Telegram bounties.

One of these scams are revealed on this thread.

On that thread you can also see how profitable these scams are (in less then a year they collected 40.000$ worth of tokens with ~200 scam accounts).

You should erase Facebook from that list. That is not a good option for spammers anymore as they are becoming very strict with multiple accounts. Some of my friends who used to sell aged accounts are out of business now as their stock is disabled.

Regarding this forum, it is shame that people boast of cheating. Those bounties should have stricter requirements in my opinion. Admin has to make a balance between abuse control and user experience though.

Guys, check this thread -- "How to do a lot of bounty" in Beginners & Help section

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-do-a-lot-of-bounty-3345574

explaining how to do 60 bounties and 130 twitter campaigns.

Most of the people that do these types of twitter and facebook bounties are also more often from third world countries, there's a lot of money in bounties and these guys they can make a years salary relatively to their country with a few successfull bounties. I'm quite suprised how much I get paid for translating, but I suppose its because ICOs don't really care about these tokens/coins, they just premine it and distribute it for cash. Why would they care if they give you a 100 or a 1000 of these tokens? Its worthless to them. I make exceptions, but I am generally carefull participating in ICOs that distribute bounties because I know they often pay out way more than they should/could and it makes it very dangerous participating, I've noticed that most of the bounty hunters from low-wage countries dump straight away on exchange launch.

Also its not just BTT that is going to shit, its also telegram groups. They're massively toxic these days compared to 6 months ago.
Imo, the whole crypto community is getting more toxic each day. I guess its less and less about the tech and more and more about the money, can't have a decent discussion anywhere.

We need Dog the bounty hunter up in this place to start taking down all these pajeets

I've got all the alt and bounty boards on ignore. It makes it interesting when you look at some members post history. They have a post count of 3 or 4 hundred, and when you look at their history, there are fewer than half a dozen posts listed.

Seems like a bit of karma has tagged him already  




Better let the Elephants (lots of them, as many as the number of bounties they take part in) sit on their faces while doing it  

Announcements (Altcoins)      6005212
Bounties (Altcoins)               2570444
Altcoin Discussion                1870478
Bitcoin Discussion                1597685

And that entire board is made out of posts like these
Don't blame me for getting carpal tunnel syndrome scrolling through this guy history.  

It would be fun to implement a limit post/merit in that section.
You've earned 1 merit in the previous two weeks activity period you are allowed to make 5 or 10 posts in the bounty section the next period.  

Just ban ICOs from being promoted in any way on the forum and send the Altcoin Bounties board to the trash bin.

Those cases are just flagrantly over the top, taking things too far.  Whilst I am not (all) in for dropping campaigns on the forum, I believe that rigor and focus should be placed on campaigns.

Clear tighter restrictions should be set to any campaign that wants to use the Forum as it’s master customer source. If there are less campaigns, so be it, but have them be quality campaigns in determent of quantity campaign (here the term “quality” makes even more sense when applied to the overall campaign communication than to individual posts, and still we have yet to see it used in this context).
 
Bitcointalk is a brand on its own, and you can't just throw anything at it and expect it to come out smelling of roses. It will deter the Brand´s name and thus its reputation.

It should be a win-win experience (Bitcointalk <-> campaign).  Good examples are cobranding between GoPro and Red Bull (“Stratos”), MBW and Luis Vuitton (“The art of Travel”) , Uber and Spotify (“soundtrack for your ride”), Nike and Apple (“Nike+”), etc. Though these examples take to win-win paradigm sublimely, they are an aspirational path from my point of view of how to increase Brand awareness and value, and not deter one side in favour of the other.

Thank you for drawing my attention to your bounty activities, and I have added you to my ignore list.

Hello, to conduct at once 125 bounty campaigns - this is crazy I think. You only help people to make a negative assessment about all the bounties.
It is a pity that they did not come up with another responsibility for advertising bounty.
My opinion is that I will lead a 5-10 bounty better, but I know my projects in great detail.

Some of these guys are making millions from Steemit, Facebook, Linkdin, Twitter, YouTube, BitcoinTalk and other social media platforms. They are scamming surfers, and making conventional advertising ineffective, and even damaging in some cases. Bitcoin is starting to achieve respectability, and is preparing itself for a great growth period in my opinion, and Bitcoin Talk could grow with it. It needs to realise the tremendous future that it can join, but it has to free itself from the cesspit of the current scams and frauds first.

Dude I have only recently realized that these bounties are not sig campaigns but the social media part of the advertising.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountymerculet-chief-growth-officer-of-global-entrepreneur-3338284

Check that post, I don't even understand half of what its about. Stakes? some confusing metrics about how they get paid, I was told these guys earn about $10 for taking part.. these shitbags don't deserve there own sub forum. They should not be allowed to post here full stop - if they want to advertise on twitter/facebook or any other retarded social media platform then they should advertise it there for participants and not here, if Theymos took a hard line about it I guarantee half these pajeets would not be signing up ever day.

Signature campaigns are one thing, and you have to admit that Managers requiring merit is helping reduce the amount of shit that comes onto the forum. These Bounty hunting fucks need to be shot in the face with Elephant shit.

I posted in that thread, and I barely let on to the true disgust I feel about those replies.  In what culture are individuals actually proud that they can score a full time job spamming a forum?  That's rhetorical and no answer is required, because frankly it is the bitcoin talk culture itself. 

Fortunately I've been seeing quite a number of posts being deleted from that section.  I do hope mprep keeps up the good work.

I am missing the actual posts. Looks like those posts were deleted (good job, bringing the attention), wish you had an archive.is 

I bet most of these users are either newbies or Jr. Member or possibly Member. IMO the spamming will reduce dramatically if the campaign managers allow only Full member and above raked users for their signature campaigns.

theymos is trying his best to save this forum from these bounty hunters and I believe he will succeed.



OMG, truly professional. Do they have a life LOL

PS: I am a member though lately from yesterday wearing a signature 

The OP, who posted that shit must have been referred here too. How can people be this greedy? Dang! These are part of the shit accounts posting repeated shit post just for signature campaign pressure.  Most of them don't really care about the interest of this forum. I think a moderator should investigate and know which accounts are connected to this account. Participating in 200 simultaneously is way too much.

Checked again; glad a moderator have taken down the post,  cause it can influence new users.

It's crazy how they have the time to participate in that many campaigns. They probably use bots because it's just physically impossible to handle that much accounts in several different ICO/bounty campaigns. It would have been fine for people to earn from bounties but this has made others spam everywhere (not only in this forum but in other forms of social media such as "tweeter") and they have taken too much advantage of this earning mechanism.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--3372313

Edit: as thread was deleted.. How many bounties do you manage....

plenty of beauties in here


Tag worthy?

what about this lovely guy - tweeter!! ha ha ha

I am a professional bounty hunter.. Cant spell twitter or ICO though

This is firm proof that the forum is going to shit.. @theymos ban bounties, sig campaigns are bad enough (yea hypocrite cos I wear one) but this is totally ridiculous.