Topic: I am looking for a loan with a pledge in the form of online accounts for games. (Read 198 times)
January 21, 2020, 04:25:00 AM
it will not work with us, it will not be taken without income from me, for nothing, calmly, because everyone is used to receiving it for nothing.
January 21, 2020, 04:01:53 AM
I want to generally go to help in pumping gold or levels in (world of warcraft classic), since this game is heavily paid for such services.
If that's the case, you should create a thread in Services. You can offer to be a coach or whatever it is that's involved in pumping these accounts. Trying to get a loan isn't going to happen.Most people on this forum won't have much need but maybe you'll get lucky. Honestly I'm sure you know the best places to go and try to promote that service or your game accounts,so I wouldn't waste to much of your time trying this here. Eventually someone will just come and tag your account if you keep pushing for a loan without valid collateral.
Selling game accounts is not so simple, if selling in my country, then the prices are very low, in the United States and other prices are just good, it’s bad that a lot of people are selling.
That's another reason people won't want it as collateral, if you someone in the gaming ecosystem says it's hard to sell. What hope does the lender have in trying to get their value back trying to sell these accounts if you default. Please lock the topic and move on to the suggestions you've been given.
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If the land is under your name, then give it to a bank or a local banker and get a loan. It's not going to work here. Lock your thread.
January 21, 2020, 03:54:05 AM
I want to generally go to help in pumping gold or levels in (world of warcraft classic), since this game is heavily paid for such services.
If that's the case, you should create a thread in Services. You can offer to be a coach or whatever it is that's involved in pumping these accounts. Trying to get a loan isn't going to happen.Most people on this forum won't have much need but maybe you'll get lucky. Honestly I'm sure you know the best places to go and try to promote that service or your game accounts,so I wouldn't waste to much of your time trying this here. Eventually someone will just come and tag your account if you keep pushing for a loan without valid collateral.
Selling game accounts is not so simple, if selling in my country, then the prices are very low, in the United States and other prices are just good, it’s bad that a lot of people are selling.
That's another reason people won't want it as collateral, if you someone in the gaming ecosystem says it's hard to sell. What hope does the lender have in trying to get their value back trying to sell these accounts if you default. Please lock the topic and move on to the suggestions you've been given.
all documents are
January 21, 2020, 03:36:59 AM
I want to generally go to help in pumping gold or levels in (world of warcraft classic), since this game is heavily paid for such services.
If that's the case, you should create a thread in Services. You can offer to be a coach or whatever it is that's involved in pumping these accounts. Trying to get a loan isn't going to happen.Most people on this forum won't have much need but maybe you'll get lucky. Honestly I'm sure you know the best places to go and try to promote that service or your game accounts,so I wouldn't waste to much of your time trying this here. Eventually someone will just come and tag your account if you keep pushing for a loan without valid collateral.
Selling game accounts is not so simple, if selling in my country, then the prices are very low, in the United States and other prices are just good, it’s bad that a lot of people are selling.
That's another reason people won't want it as collateral, if you someone in the gaming ecosystem says it's hard to sell. What hope does the lender have in trying to get their value back trying to sell these accounts if you default. Please lock the topic and move on to the suggestions you've been given.
January 21, 2020, 03:28:35 AM
I want to generally go to help in pumping gold or levels in (world of warcraft classic), since this game is heavily paid for such services.
January 21, 2020, 03:26:19 AM
this aint gonna fly here OP - may be hit up some gaming forums who actually value what you are offering
Selling game accounts is not so simple, if selling in my country, then the prices are very low, in the United States and other prices are just good, it’s bad that a lot of people are selling. January 21, 2020, 03:23:51 AM
In this case, I can provide agricultural land, where you entered them.
there the price of the deposit is much higher than I need.
in our country it doesn’t work out, we need to work to provide an income document, we have work experience since I took care of my sick mother for a long time, 5-6 years. and it was impossible to get a job, it was forbidden, klpeiks were paid, literally pennies, if there is a legal payment in the country of 10, then I was paid only 1.
money is now needed for the start in another sphere, the mother has disrupted the health of the earth, it is not so desirable to raise it, at least 50,000-100,000 need to be invested in it, and this despite the fact that you will have to buy a very old model to lift the equipment.
there the price of the deposit is much higher than I need.
in our country it doesn’t work out, we need to work to provide an income document, we have work experience since I took care of my sick mother for a long time, 5-6 years. and it was impossible to get a job, it was forbidden, klpeiks were paid, literally pennies, if there is a legal payment in the country of 10, then I was paid only 1.
money is now needed for the start in another sphere, the mother has disrupted the health of the earth, it is not so desirable to raise it, at least 50,000-100,000 need to be invested in it, and this despite the fact that you will have to buy a very old model to lift the equipment.
January 21, 2020, 03:23:36 AM
The other flag in your loan request is your activity. You last post before this was 6+ months ago, and it was also an in urgent need of money post. The risk is to great for anyone here. I would take TMAN's rather pleasant advice and actually sell an account or 2 to some gamers.
It's shitty but I can't think of a single on forum lender who would take this level of risk.
It's shitty but I can't think of a single on forum lender who would take this level of risk.
January 21, 2020, 03:18:13 AM
this aint gonna fly here OP - may be hit up some gaming forums who actually value what you are offering
January 21, 2020, 02:57:17 AM
This post is outdated, and how are you going to regain access if you are transferred to the accounts and their contents of the bindings.
Outdated or not , VOD's points are still valid. There are many instances where owners of hacked game accounts getting their account back regardless of email, etc being changed as to their view, it's against their terms to transfer accounts to others.
Besides, your accounts have 0 value here and if you think they've got some sort of value, then im sure you can sell it.
Valid collaterals here are alt coins at 120% or more.
January 21, 2020, 02:00:04 AM
This post is outdated, and how are you going to regain access if you are transferred to the accounts and their contents of the bindings.
January 21, 2020, 12:53:48 AM
Total value - $0
What is considered collateral?
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.
- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Ethereum (also written as ETH). Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan. Try localbitcoins.com
What is not considered collateral?
- Merit. Bitcointalk Merit is not a commodity and is not meant to be traded. Asking or doing so may get you negative trust (Trade with Extreme Caution!)
- Items they want to sell. They don't want it back, so they will default. It's scammy unethical behavior and will lead to negative trust. Check their recent posts!
- Items not in hand. Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default! Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income. You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification. So what if they can prove who they are. Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds? You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does. ID is useless.
- Games codes or similar. To verify the collateral you need to use the code, which destroys the collateral. Consider this a purchase, not a loan. (Post in Digital Goods instead)
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Most pre-coins/tokens are worthless, or may take significant time to be worth anything.
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time. Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come over six months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account) Examples: Steam
When should you use Escrow?
- Never send collateral directly to a low activity/post account offering you a loan, as they are likely to take your coins and disappear. (Collateral Scam)
- Use only "Legendary Members" for escrow - they have a vested interest in the community with the time they have spent here.
- Do not use a third party escrow service unless hero members can vouch for it - it's too easy to create a website, do a few escrows then disappear with a big balance. Rinse and repeat.
- A list of trusted escrows can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778
When considering the trustworthiness of a user, ignore "Posts" as there are schemes that pay a user per post. A person can make 1,000 useless posts in one day and contribute nothing to the community. Instead look at the "Activity" number - that gives you a more accurate tally of how involved the user is in the community. The new "Merit" system highlights thoughtful or useful posts, but gives no indication of trustworthiness.
Ignore the sob stories that users post - it's just a scam to get your coins. If a person really is in such a situation, they can turn to family, friends or other social circles they frequent. They are just posting in our community because the payment is anonymous and irreversible.
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.
- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Ethereum (also written as ETH). Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan. Try localbitcoins.com
What is not considered collateral?
- Merit. Bitcointalk Merit is not a commodity and is not meant to be traded. Asking or doing so may get you negative trust (Trade with Extreme Caution!)
- Items they want to sell. They don't want it back, so they will default. It's scammy unethical behavior and will lead to negative trust. Check their recent posts!
- Items not in hand. Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default! Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income. You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification. So what if they can prove who they are. Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds? You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does. ID is useless.
- Games codes or similar. To verify the collateral you need to use the code, which destroys the collateral. Consider this a purchase, not a loan. (Post in Digital Goods instead)
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Most pre-coins/tokens are worthless, or may take significant time to be worth anything.
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time. Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come over six months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account) Examples: Steam
When should you use Escrow?
- Never send collateral directly to a low activity/post account offering you a loan, as they are likely to take your coins and disappear. (Collateral Scam)
- Use only "Legendary Members" for escrow - they have a vested interest in the community with the time they have spent here.
- Do not use a third party escrow service unless hero members can vouch for it - it's too easy to create a website, do a few escrows then disappear with a big balance. Rinse and repeat.
- A list of trusted escrows can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778
When considering the trustworthiness of a user, ignore "Posts" as there are schemes that pay a user per post. A person can make 1,000 useless posts in one day and contribute nothing to the community. Instead look at the "Activity" number - that gives you a more accurate tally of how involved the user is in the community. The new "Merit" system highlights thoughtful or useful posts, but gives no indication of trustworthiness.
Ignore the sob stories that users post - it's just a scam to get your coins. If a person really is in such a situation, they can turn to family, friends or other social circles they frequent. They are just posting in our community because the payment is anonymous and irreversible.
January 21, 2020, 12:17:25 AM
Hello, I need an urgent loan. To pay off land tax and a couple of personal purchases. The repayment period is up to 3 months, in part or at the end of the term, in full. The required amount is $ 500, a pledge can go to online games from games such as (WarThunder, NewerWinter, World of Tanks, World of Warships) photos and descriptions below for each account, regarding interest, 25% of the total rate, refund of $ 625, regarding refund, payment at the dollar rate, not cryptocurrency.
Loan amount ------------ 500 dollars
Repayment Percentage - 25%
Total amount ------------ 625 dollars
Repayment term -------- 180 days
Type of pledge ---------- Online video games (account)
Repayment rate --------- every 30 days of a certain part, at the end of 180 days of the entire debt
1 Account (WarThunder)
It is pumped to level 6, has up to 5 aircraft, average pumping, you can soon switch to 3 lines, there is a paid game currency on the account.
2 Account (NewerWinter)
Pumped to level 41, has good damage, there are many bonuses and game coins, as well as paid diamonds.
3 Account (World of Warships)
The account has a maximum level pumping, has more than 200 battles, 93% wins, is pumped to the destroyer level 6, will soon go to level 7, there is 1 aircraft carrier, there is also little left to buy a battleship, many destroyers are well pumped, with rewards from the captains from 1-5 coins, it has a large supply of game currency, you can also quickly accumulate paid currency, an additional VIP ship has been pumped, there are not many left until it is pumped, you need to perform daily tasks. The account is much appreciated on resale platforms.
3 Account (World of Tanks)
This account has a lot of tanks from small to strong levels, there are many currency bonds, many places for tanks, many tanks that have already been explored but not bought, I will describe below what has been researched, and to which there is very little experience left to investigate, and after buy.
Total number of seats for tanks - 33
Research technique, but not purchased
USSR
T-34, 5ur
German technology
Jagdtiger, 9ur
Jg.Pz.E 100, 10ur. First you need to buy level 9, after 10
VK 20.01 D, 4ur
VK 28.01, 6ur
America
M37, 4ur
T32, 8ur
France
B1, 4ur
Lorraine 155mle. 51, 8ur
Sweden
Lago, 4ur
Tanks which you do not need to pump a lot
USSR
KB-3, 7ur=KB-4,--not enough experience 32,000 of 53,000
America
M36 Jackson, 6ur,--not enough experience 11,000 of 45,000
France
AMX 12t, 6ur,--not enough experience 32,150 of 62,240
AMX AC mle. 46, 7ur,--not enough experience 38,917 of 70,000
The total number of gold tanks from 2-7 levels=10
This is what I can provide as a guarantee, should be enough.
Loan amount ------------ 500 dollars
Repayment Percentage - 25%
Total amount ------------ 625 dollars
Repayment term -------- 180 days
Type of pledge ---------- Online video games (account)
Repayment rate --------- every 30 days of a certain part, at the end of 180 days of the entire debt
1 Account (WarThunder)
It is pumped to level 6, has up to 5 aircraft, average pumping, you can soon switch to 3 lines, there is a paid game currency on the account.
2 Account (NewerWinter)
Pumped to level 41, has good damage, there are many bonuses and game coins, as well as paid diamonds.
3 Account (World of Warships)
The account has a maximum level pumping, has more than 200 battles, 93% wins, is pumped to the destroyer level 6, will soon go to level 7, there is 1 aircraft carrier, there is also little left to buy a battleship, many destroyers are well pumped, with rewards from the captains from 1-5 coins, it has a large supply of game currency, you can also quickly accumulate paid currency, an additional VIP ship has been pumped, there are not many left until it is pumped, you need to perform daily tasks. The account is much appreciated on resale platforms.
3 Account (World of Tanks)
This account has a lot of tanks from small to strong levels, there are many currency bonds, many places for tanks, many tanks that have already been explored but not bought, I will describe below what has been researched, and to which there is very little experience left to investigate, and after buy.
Total number of seats for tanks - 33
Research technique, but not purchased
USSR
T-34, 5ur
German technology
Jagdtiger, 9ur
Jg.Pz.E 100, 10ur. First you need to buy level 9, after 10
VK 20.01 D, 4ur
VK 28.01, 6ur
America
M37, 4ur
T32, 8ur
France
B1, 4ur
Lorraine 155mle. 51, 8ur
Sweden
Lago, 4ur
Tanks which you do not need to pump a lot
USSR
KB-3, 7ur=KB-4,--not enough experience 32,000 of 53,000
America
M36 Jackson, 6ur,--not enough experience 11,000 of 45,000
France
AMX 12t, 6ur,--not enough experience 32,150 of 62,240
AMX AC mle. 46, 7ur,--not enough experience 38,917 of 70,000
The total number of gold tanks from 2-7 levels=10
This is what I can provide as a guarantee, should be enough.
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