Topic: I can prove there was no civilization on earth, before us, using mineral deposit (Read 94 times)

Well your post is based on your own thinking and isn't binding upon everyone. Yes it’s true the sciences is based upon hypothesis and are not absolute facts. You might know the theory of 'Big Bang' it is also based upon a hypothesis and mostly people aren't agreeing with this.  But if we compare this theory with Religion we have an authentic prove for this theory, in the Muslims religious book Quran it is clearly mentioned in Suran Anbiya (21:30) "the heavens and the earth were joined together as one unit, before We clove them asunder" God has already mentioned many secrets in his books. It's up to us to find them.

I agree. God is so extremely complex that people should call Him the Almighty Primordial Soup... when they try to fathom His whole complexity at once.

hypothetical, for fun

although we can look at the land and excavations of our history of say 1 million years
but. what if. before 1 million years the earth went through a phase of superhot period that literally melted and burned EVERYTHING.
turning any machinery into basic elemental clumps of minerals again. thus leaving no sign of machines.

no one actually knows what happened before the primordial soup that stated the life cycle that evolved into humans during this last/current period.

we can only see the history after the ooze

what is this story of throns and thistles? which passage, back your claims. I don't think, I would even go as far as supposing it's the "black seeds"... but who knows, I wasn't there.


a fake artificats isn't a fossilized trex !

hiding metal deposit extractions would be a collassal use of energy to achieve believability that I don't believe it's true.

however I believe something happened 250 millions years ago on Mars, but I have no proof, only hear say... that could clearly be qualified as civilization.

Every theory will sound possible actually when you think a secret organization can produce fabricated artifacts and  the org owns google, CNN and the chruch.

Hell every politician today believe they are chosen by god. Even Hitler and the rest of the tyrants in this world did a covenant.
King David of the Bible married kids, today we consider it horrible but we are not to judge because he is chosen by god. The god that needs a lot of money!

But we don't know that for sure. The earth didn't have thorns and thistles until after there was sin in the world. Since the poppy isn't mentioned directly, maybe it also came up only after sin.

ahah! I like your reasoning... because with the aliens, it bypass the mineral harvesting... smart... astute... but no... possible, yes... but I bet no... but I don't know... I don't know mineral deposits from south america, just heard the story of a guy for anaconda steel or something along the way getting fucking in argentina by some so called jewess from russia .

nooo.... nooo... who know...

nice point ! bonus point won...

that's really cool... the bypass... or the leap frog... yeah, why dig, when the aliens can print... huh...

okay, I can't prove.

but it's not an "endogen" or self generated civilization... so tie.

edit : on this I have a whole theory on polar shit / civ line... where are the archologists of the cia when you need them? ahh when youtube wasn't censored, before obama 2nd political campaign and the end of the formal republic...

Well, there are people before us. Races that already gone like what archeologists are saying such as the Mayans. Of course, it's still related to sciences, it's all base on what they see and read on the stone tablets or that rosetta stone from ancient Egypt. But you could say it's still us.

The technology they have could be better than what we have which they learned from Aliens. How true how these aliens are, is beyond what anyone could think of. But strange phenomenon happens in every corner of the world.

If the Aliens are extracting gold deposits and we are created by the alien as slaves as Von Daniken claims, where are they now?

Civilization? group using tools? otherwise part of the natural world? and in this definition it's still possible that the dinosaurs build their space fleet (extracting minerals) or stargates and left, then with the tectonic shifts, all traces gone... what create the rare earth mineral layer? you should watch about metamorphic resonance here : https://www.brighteon.com/d9e17a06-bb25-42cd-83d2-bce22bbc94b6 (and not the monomaniachal physics of the demons smash it again to see what's in it brainwashed inhumans)...

so my point is clear , 30k 100k 250k cycle sun ago, there wasn't a civilization on earth. do you agree with humans? can we focus on that? or tool users? civilization / space fleet / left earth... nope.

they could have had an organic space craft which dissolved already... hmmm...

Well, thats not what I really mean. Do you hear anything about ants and termits? Those tiny creatures are building towns, making federations, they cultivate and breed, they have air conditioning and lot of other cool things - all without using fire and metal - and all these long before humankind. Maybe we can thing about those as advanced civilization too? What is a sign of civilization?

Science had always been based on countless hypothesis that are not viable with absolute facts. Maybe op need to go and read the Bible to get an hint of what had existed before now that the science are just using ideas decietive   hypothesis to suggest what had happened before there own beginning.The books of the Bible is the beginning of science and it's gonna be the end at last when it comes to aging discoveries. I can not be decided by a mere human telling lies about what had happened before our existence.

You gat no comprehensive facts about your post

I meant a civilization emerging from earth... of course if you crash land with your space craft with your teleporting devices, no need to forage anything from the earth crust.. just dl it .

@badecker the poppy was made on the 3rd day, and God saw it was good...

Here is what the Bible has that science is missing.

The early Bible from the time of Jesus and before, showed that the earth is about 7,500 years old. God created the heavens and the earth... and then there was something like time... and then there was day one.

Before day one, but after the creating of the heavens and the earth, God hovered over the waters (in Spirit). Then, on day one, God created light. What this essentially means is, that if there was physics before the first day, it was not the same physics that we have after the creating of light... not the same physics that we have today. If it was the same, light would not have had to have been created.

There might be some similarities between our physics, and the physics that existed between the creating-of-the-heavens-and-the-earth and the "time" when the Spirit of God hovered-over-the-waters and day one. But we don't entirely know what the differences might be. This means that we can't extrapolate backward in time beyond about 7,500 years ago, because we don't know if our physics fits or not.

Somebody might say that the light from the stars shows that the universe is billions of years old. But the flaw in this lies in the 4th day of creation when God set the sun, moon, and stars in place. There isn't any physics detail in the Bible. It simply says what God did.

God didn't do something useless on the 4th day. He didn't simply make the sun, moon and stars. If He had done only that, most of the light from most of the stars wouldn't have reached the earth, yet, in only 7,500 years. So, the stars would have mostly been useless for us.

God did what was practical. He made the stars, and this means that He made the stars for us to see by making all the light in between us and the stars, just as though the universe was billions of years old.

The point is, science might be perfectly right if things had remained as they are, back into the distant past. But there is no way to determine that they have. So, we need to rely on the record of the Bible.

If there’s one thing science has proven over the years, it’s that science can be disproved. Once upon a time someone proved the world was flat. They also proved the sun revolved around the earth. Don’t forget all that science behind the witch trials or that pesky bleeding out of diseases. What will science prove tomorrow? Hopefully not something that forces manmade injections on mankind…

Lack of imagination, hm? Maybe they didn't use metal at all, maybe it is possible to have advanced technology without it.

Lets philosophise. What is civilisation? And what is advanced civilization? How can we define it?

It's easy, if there was an advanced civilization before us, they would have too used and abused the easily accessible mineral deposits.

the only hypothesis is that it was before a lot of tectonic shifts... meaning that most religious texts who speak about a pre current civilisation, are pure crap bull shit...

aka cavemen really draw mammoths on caves and what not, but hadn't machines to extract anything ever... otherwise the deposits wouldn't be there... duh...

however it doesn't yet still explain the radioactive trace in the red woods in california... maybe just bio accumulation from ocean spray?

and what happened on mars 250'000'000 years ago? hehehehe... was the moon "appollo" scorch, voluntarily or just by sun burp? who knows... who knows...

the metal deposits don't lie.