Topic: I did NOT ROB 25000 coins from AllInVain - please stop the harassment (Read 392 times)

LOL, it's really a really long story, I just got to page 5, I gave up  but maybe I understand OP's main problem now

so, I guess, after 10 years, this guy finds that the price of BTC has gone up horribly and can still go up more. Therefore, he still feels uncomfortable about being hacked before. It is obvious that he is looking for you to compensate him for a huge amount of money that he cannot even get even if he is not hacked. I really can't tell the truth behind your story, whether you took his money or not, whether he slandered you or not, I can't say for sure. But one thing is clear that Mr AllInVain is really a greedy man. Assuming he didn't lose that BTC, there is still a high probability that he sold all of his BTC when BTC price was high during the last period, there are many milestones that he has may have sold it. He's suing you because he thinks he's supposed to be a billionaire  But it's too bad you leaked your information in this space 

Yes I understand that and just mentioned those parts because its part of what makes it a fascinating tale. Sorry to hear your "friend" still hasn't quite gotten over his loss (after 10 years) but at least they stopped harassing you.


Sure, glad things came to a peaceful resolution.

i am not involved in any of those activities - while my name leaked in 2011/2012 i did not know i was under some sort of investigation unlit 2 months ago

The nasty behavior and harassment stopped - we have not be bothered for over a week -  thank you, to the members still investigating this matter for hearing me out and understanding the situation.

- Adrian

He answered most of your questions in this thread already, though some of it is a bit convoluted. Obviously this is a serious matter to this person. You should inform yourself of what is going on. There's a ridiculous amount of information on what happened out there. I spent at least an hour refreshing my memory on the subject before writing a post here.

This is your starting point:

I just got hacked - any help is welcome! (25,000 BTC stolen)

It's a rather amazing story worth learning about. Treachery, obsession, international espionage, the takedown of an Anonymous sect, it has a lot going on.

Meanwhile allinvain hasn't logged in yet, so there's nothing new to add to the tail end of the saga.

After reading through your posts, I still don't really understand what's going on. All of the topics you linked to are from 10 years ago, but they seem to have something to do with you today. Could you please be more clear? Why do the problems of 10 years ago affect you now? Although someone can lie, but this forum is anonymous, how does it affect you and your family now? the situation you gave is really ambiguous

i ment to say on this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16457.540 - not the one i am posting on right now - yes i am also very curious on what he has to say - and by all means he is a celebrity on this FORUM - his word against a newbie that speaks the truth - but these accusations need to stop outside the legal world, where ppl hide behind nicknames and computers - especially when family is involved - i for one never believe anyone that is making accusations under false accounts and nicknames, telling the world lies

Bruh.... I asked you what the account name was in my first post. Your response was:


But then you said this:


He's on this thread? I do not think so mate.

I'm not accusing you of lying. Everybody who commented here so far is trying to help you out. Its hard to do that without knowing circumstances and details. Just relax for a minute and we'll see what the man himself has to say.

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the person that is helping ALLINVAIN is on this thread - has been on here for a long time - he is an active member that is a garbage human being and i want this person arrested without affecting AllInVain - he confirmed it verbally and also confirmed it on several posts - like i am not lying here man

read this here - there are several statements like this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16457.540 - he also confirmed it to me verbally and over text messages - i can prove it especially since it was sent over text - like i do not understand what is wrong with you ppl - i am explaining to you that i completed my research - the person that is causing me problem is someone on this forum that is a high ranking member - i don't understand why you are trying to convince me otherwise - or trying to pretend that i am the issue here because i am a newbie - i do have a newbie account but my issue is not related to the activity that is going on here, but in regards to the harassment that i am receiving from members on this forum because AllinVain gave out my private information a if this is normal or something.

I did not steal his coins - i did not laugh about him when i heard it, like his friends did, i actually felt bad - i did not know it was so much money until the last 2 months -  and he gave my info to strangers he does not know on the internet, from middle east - like wtf is wrong with him - and he will not tell me what other info he gave them, and while this is not a deal breaker for me =, his buddy is contacting my wife - again what is wrong with you ppl on this forum - this is not little money and this is something that i would take a little more seriosly

The only think i ever feel guilty about is maybe not trying to be a better friend and trying to get him out of that trashy crowd - but he is an adult and i am not responsible for his decisions - i sleep just fine at night

OK well he'll likely log in pretty soon and hopefully provide a response.


Whoever contacted allinvain is in all likelihood still a scammer that came up with a harebrained plan to extort you.

Perhaps your harassers think you are Adrian Lamo, which you clearly are not... hope they aren't actually that dumb.

After doing a bit of research, it would appear the identity of the person who claims to have stolen the coins is known, however that can all be meaningless as its based on hearsay... This person is actively involved in various cryptocurrency companies. You probably are aware of all of this.

It's an interesting story.

We (most of us) have no idea who you are and this happened 10 years ago now, so... short of changing your phone number and going to local law enforcement, I don't know what to tell you. I do hate hearing about people getting harassed by douchebags tho.

Thank you all hearing me out - i appreciate your understanding in this matter and i wish you all nothing but good health and not a day without food on the table - i know it's a bad world out there, and if i can make it a little better especially for a friend i will do that instantly.


the above wishes do not apply to the people that harassed me and my wife in such fashion - i actually wish the exact opposite - much stress and not much food on the table as far as i am concerned.

like all these opinions all over this thread on what happened with so many millions - why am i the only one asking why are you people not going to the cops with all this info and making false accusations - like what is wrong with you guys - if i would have lost millions i would be at the all the law enforcements agencies in a round robin fashion opening up cases

I talked to him over FaceBook and over phone twice (voice) also texts - i know him since he was 14 for crying out loud - he still uses the same nickname he did on IRC in the mid 90's nd pretends to be a hacker - I was going to call his dad because i had enough of this shit out of respect for how long i've known this guy.

It is not a scammer, i thought so initially for the first 2 months - but after confronting AllInVain - he confirmed that they are working together and that he is helping him out

Please feel free to contact bring this thread to his attention, if he will join this thread and say i lied about anything in the statements i made, i should be considered prime suspect and he should have a case over me - i am not trolling with fake names or IRC chat-room names - you can ask him yourself - he knows me

I do not know what to say about solving this crime - i am not qualified to understand what you mean or know what to do with the info you posted - i do have a very strong background in CS, but i am not involved in crypto mining and hiding or whatever is going on here - but this is information that does not really concern me because i am not the person looking for the money - you might want to contact AllInVain with this finding of yours and help him - i wish he finds his money - he is a little naive but i swear he has a big heart even if he did this to me....

This is just an attempt to let you people know that i am not hiding no matter what this person told you about me on these forums and whoever they hired - i have a name and address and i am willing to step forward in a civilized manner and answer any questions about his missing coins - but understand that if this is done in an anonymous way and you are harassing my wife i will go to the police with this and it will fall on the person you are trying to help - also please understand that this is not safe, what if i was violent and went to his house and put my foot up his ass? there is a proper way to do such investigations and i would suggest contacting the people that are qualified to track millions and not shady people from middle east

As others mentioned earlier, this sounds like a shakedown attempt by a scammer, and you don't actually have anything to worry about. Here's an important question:

You say you know allinvain IRL but how do you know the person you were communicating with is actually allinvain?

I will bring this thread to their attention.


Edit: the original crime could have been solved in 2011 as at least some of allinvain's coins were sent to a MtGOX controlled address.

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On the forum i have linked there are several people that offered to track his coins down for a percentage - i am no detective but i got my money on one of those people unless they contacted AllInVain in private after they saw his dramatic posts in 2011 - but this is just speculation this is not real information is verified because AllInVain refuses to reveal these 'gems'

I do not know the member of the forum that are helping AllInVain - but they are on this forum - i asked AllInVain to reveal the name of the people that are doing this to me and he refuses - his exact words are 'it is none of your business and he wants to see what proof they have' - but feel free to ask him who is helping him. he refuses to tell me or the police.

To all the members that are helping him in such way - please stop - this is alot of money and i am fully co-operating with anyone that can identify themselves as a member of a lawful organization - i am not crook that stole from him out of all people - this is just a plead to whoever is doing this to me to understand that he is not saying anything to the police about this (i already checked) but is revealing my name on member of this forum - i don't know what is going on, but i am not involved with these coins please believe me, nor do i have any to send to you

Millions of dollars disappeared into thing air - this is not a job for these type of people - and can lead to unwanted results

The last post in that thread is from 2011 and I'm pretty aware of what happened.

You must be referencing newer forum members. Who are they?

Tell us the names of the members from this forum that are harassing you and we will pretty much know right away if they are full of shit or not.

If they're not from this forum, there's not much we can do.

i did report this matter to the Police in Canada and US due to my location and travels - i even told the person that was harassing me that - it still did not stop, i did contact AllInVain - but apparently these ppl he is in contact with believe i stole his coins - what else can i do except to let you ppl know on this forum i had nothing to do with it and please stop harassing me.

i am a newbie - i just joined - i am not denying this - and i did not join for bitcoins i just joined because of the post of the people that are helping ALLINVAIN - Adrian is my real name i am not a troll i did not invent this up i know it's from 10 yrs ago but my involvement was recent

I'm not saying you're lying about anything, but the community here (including myself) is kind of skeptical about newbies claiming things like what you're claiming, so it's inevitable that people are going to dissect what you wrote and look for any inconsistencies.  

If you're being harassed, go to law enforcement, not a discussion forum.  Nobody here knows you or would likely help you even if they could, which they probably can't.  You don't have to prove your innocence to anyone here (or anything else for that matter).  It sounds like you need to resolve this with your accuser.

Man, I don't even know what slushpool is.  Is that something from the 2011 era or is it just not mentioned a lot on the forum anymore?  

FYI, OP: I gave you a merit so that you can get past the newbie restrictions in a couple of weeks if I'm not mistaken (assuming you're still around).  I think as it stands you have a restriction on the number of posts you can make in a certain time period and so forth, which will go away when you rank up to Jr. Member.

I do know AllInVain in RL - i am not lying - i know for a fact his name is not Aaron Barr - like i know his dad and everythng - as for the reason why i am getting attacked online about this is something you can ask him yourself - he is a celebrity on this forum and he i always online i cannot comment on his motive for siting on that for so long  and causing me su much trashy drama - especially with my family (not cool)


You can ask him yourself - just message him - he is on this forum all the time

Apparently, Aaron Barr was the CEO of some security company who "infiltrated anonymous, which resulted in them trashing his website, hacking his emails and his twitter account, and the people responsible for this later morphed into Lulzsec" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBGary

In other words, that Aaron Barr guy is irrelevant to this problem and was clearly not the guy who stole allinvain's coins.

The posts I linked showed his twitter account bragging about the theft - apparently, this was after the HBGary hack. Also the coins were stolen from a slushpool account and not a bitcoin core wallet (apparently), so the lulzsec guys must had hacked slush for the login info for people.

From what I read, some other people had coins stolen from slush not just allinvain.

If this idea wasn't brought 10 years ago in that thread then I'm surprised that nobody thought about that.

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In any case, since you clearly don't have any hacking skills for stealing database logins, you should explain that to your harasser(s) and tell them to fuck off. The accusation seems bogus to me.

i have no connection to this account - also i do not feel i need to prove anything - it sounds like the person that lost million of dollars has a responsibility towards their family and their own well being to open a case with the FBI that can request warrants to that account.

i cannot help with that but if i can help with that please let me know.. i will bee more than happy to do so - but i have no legal path to prove that - that needs to be driven by the person reporting the crime

Wait, so you know allinvain personally, in real life, and he thinks you're someone named Aaron Barr?  That doesn't make much sense unless I'm missing something obvious.  

And this matter is now becoming a problem for you after 10 years?  That's strange, but I'm not sure anyone here is going to be able to help you, since this seems to be a matter between you, allinvain, and whoever you say he has harassing you.  I can see why someone would want those coins back, since it's a hell of a lot of money but why would allinvain now start targeting you as the culprit?  Surely he would have done that years ago, no?

Edit: Wait, so is allinvain's real name Aaron Barr?  This post he made seems to point to that being the case, and if that's true then I must be misunderstanding what you wrote above.

Seems that those people in that thread think you're this guy:  http://twitter.com/#!/Anonakomis 

e.g.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.224408
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.224438

Looks like all you have to do is prove that you never had ownership of that account provided that it's not suspended/deleted. How exactly to do that I don't know.

it is in regards to the members involved with this thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-just-got-hacked-any-help-is-welcome-25000-btc-stolen-16457

i did not hack Mr AllInVains coins!!!  and some of the members on this site are after be because This gentleman told them that i might have been involved - i am not involved in the theft of 7+ million dollars - and i will co-operate with law enforcement agencies if i am asked to.

i am not a liar and a thief but this is not how this  is supposed to be handled

I haven't heard of this AllInVain guy to be honest, can you drop us some threads from this forum (since you mentioned it) about the discussion of this theft/harassment, if you have any, so we have some context of what's going on here?

Hello,

My name is Adrian, this is my real name and not a nick-name.
I use my real name because I take this matter very seriously and I am a grown adult.

I am not entirely sure what is going on here, and I would like to start by saying that I did not rob mr. AllInVain.

I have known Mr. AllInVain in RL for 25 years. He is one of my oldest 'friends' or so i thought, regardless of the fallout we had due to different social circles.
I will not give out his personal information because both him and I live in countries where this is frowned upon and can be legally enforced in the Court of Law.

For the past 3 months my wife and I have been harassed in regards with the theft of 25000 BT of mr. AllInVain by someone on this forum.
After a few months of back and forth, it was revealed that this person was either hired or decided to help mr AllInVain out of their own good will (this information is not clear but it is one of the two). What is clear is that after I googled for months and found this forum and confronting mr AllInVain, someone on this thread is in contact with AllInVain according to him and is helping him to find his stollen coins.

Mr. AllInVain gave out my personal name to this user and what I believe is other personal contact such as my e-mail. I want to be fair and make the statement that Mr. AllInVain promises me that he only gave out my name and not e-mail. I do strongly believe that my primary email has been also given out (or figured out) because in the past few months i had two attempts on my email because i am getting the call from microsoft to allow a new machine to log in. This might be an odd coincidence i want to leave room for this but note that i'm a private person and I am trying to get the ip of those attempts.

This Person,
- according to Mr. AllInVain is a white hat hacker, not in law enforcements.
- accuses me of stealing the coins from Mr AllInVain
- believes I got married because I have the missing coins
- believes that I am living a lavishing lifestyle because they have pictures of my vacation in Mexico and I got married in 2011.
- believes that I had access to AllInVains computer
- believes that after i stole Mr. AllinVains coins i separated myself from him socially
- believes that I am the owner of the account where the money was transffered to
- believes that I am someone Aaron Barr
- accuses me for being part of some hacking group from LULZSEC
- believes that my wife opened up businesses in Australia
- wants to me to send them my financial statements
- wants me to send bitcoins to some address
- calls me a thief and insults my work ethics
- clains he is a millionaire and has many bitcoins
- harassed me and my wife and does not stop

I would like to make the following statement to the people on this forum that are helping AllInVain in such matter.
- Any theft especially something worth 7-14 mil it is best reported and left with a law enforcement (RCMP Canada/FBI usa) because what you are doing is not helping him in any way. There is more to this than what you might have been told.
- I did not steal AllInVains coins.
- I was at his house only one time (two times, but only once inside) and i did use his computer once to check my email (AllInVain was present the entire time) i wish i never did.
- My marriage has nothing to do with the loss of mr AllinVains coin loss, i've known my wife for 20yrs and we had a history this was work in progress.
- All the vacation pictures that were posted on my facebook by my wife when we were in the Caribbean are simply that our vacation pictures, we find some good deals once in a while and we fly somewhere warm once a year. I can afford a vacation once a year and sometimes even two. This does not represent a luxurious lifestyle, these are vacation all inclusive that we get some deals on - i do not need to justify my vacation pictures and it is really weird.
- I did separate myself from AllInVain social life and circle around the loss of his coins, but this is because of the harassment i was receiving from his ex-wife and friends. I still have the proof of it and anyone in my position would do the same. Also because the people that AllInVain associated himself with are not my kind of people and are not people that i would like to be associated with or be involved with. I never really hanged out with these people (i did see them maybe 1 hr a week usually friday for a period of 3 months) and i am sure that all the people will claim the same thing.
- I am not the owner of the account where the coins were sent to, however if my name and identity gives him access to that account legally i will gladly help him in the recovery
- I am not Aaron Barr i also never met this person and i am in no way associated with this person
- I am a software engineer that has been employed in the field since 2005 and i have never been involved with LulZSec or know any members, I in any way do not support black/white hacking groups or organizations.
- Myself and my wife do not have businesses in Australia or anywhere for that matter. We are on salary, always have been.
- I will only share my financial statements with a court of law in the United States or Canada (or even a good friend in need that might upset - wink AllInVain), not over the internet with crazy people, knock it off.
- I do not have bitcoins, or will send bitcoins, I keep retirement money is various pre-taxed accounts that are insured at the level of ca/us governments. I also do not support bitcoin because it is not federally insured. I do not mine bitcoins or buy it in attempts to avoid taxes like other people. I pay all my taxes except for pre-tax accounts where I have limits by the government but this is not illegal it is just something that might come in handy when i get old or during unemployment and i have a lower tax bracket.
- I am not a thief and I am proud of my work ethics, and i never chased quick money and tried to avoid taxes. I have been employed since I graduated in Software Engineering since 2005. My student loan has been payed gradually in 2012 but with money I have earned working very hard. I also have great references in the field and have uninterrupted employment since I graduated university.
- This person is not a millionaire, and the millionaires I know do not behave like this, and will cause Mr. AllInVain alot of legal problems and also lose credibility in this matter and any legal cases he might have.
- The way you conducted yourself is illegal and and you have no right or authority also added much stress to my family prease stop. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Conclusion.

- We are more than happy to help Mr. AllInVain in his loss but this needs to happen via one of the Law Enforcement Agencies.
- Please leave my family alone, or else we will report this to the police the way we have done so far and will place blame on AllInVain because he is the catalist of this circus that he has caused in my life.
- Also all the names of the 'gems' from this forum that offered to help AllinVain in this thread, you should consider getting a job and do something constructive with your life.) There is alot more to this than you actually know.
- We have W4's and proof of every dollar (most of it) we spent because we use credit cards because we get 3% back on every purchase.
- As an expert in the field i would like to add that Windows is not to blame for security issues regardless of what some users on this post are claining, I am willing to put my career on the line with this statements.
- Also encryption is not really working the way some of you guys are describing it, or maybe i miss-understood but do not take advice to security related issues from other users on this site or AllInVain even if i know he is a nice guy and means well. When you have 7-14 million $ at stake and want to secure it, you should understand that the best thing to do is to actually insure it. At that point you should pay a company for your encryption and security that is qualified and most importantly insured against such losses, just my 2 cents on this matter.
- A personal observation, when you have so much monetary value worth inside your residence it might be best to not advertise it and tell people that might be un-employed and wish they had that kind of money (not best practice). The topic of Mr. AllInVains coins was subject to public conversation in his social circle when AllInVain was not around due to his work schedule because Fridays he had to work in the Afternoon or Night, I can publicly testify this in a court, I was there, I am not a liar.

I wish AllInVain the best of luck in recovering this coins and I will co-operate with any law enforcement agency in recovering whatever is his. Please do not bother me any longer with this or else i will keep reporting this to the police. I this harassment does not stop i will press charges against the real person behind the nickname AllInVain in real life, and i personally do not what to do that because i feel bad for him and i really want only what is good for him because he is a good person, but my family is a line that i will not tolerate if it will be crossed again.

Please note that the crime in question involves money that does not just disappear in thin air and there are legal ways to get it

thank you for your kind understanding,
- Adrian