Topic: I dont think we should evolve any longer as humans (Read 2233 times)

Evolution is something we can't stop, we are always learning and discovering new things. Besides, we still have the whole universe to explore

That's because our brains has not evolved in the same speed as our technological progress. That means we still think "Big boom. I kill enemy. I solve problem", instead of "If I detonate a nuclear bomb there will be many future problems that could affect humanity in a bad way". But fear not, in a few thousand years we'll have the ability to make decisions that's good for our long-term survival. That is, if we survive that long, of course!

I think it's actually awesome! People only 200 years back were not even dreaming about the nuclear physics etc. PROGRESS ROX!

I think he meant is how smart and advanced we had gotten from tools, or we call now weapons, from tossing stones to now shooting guns, to laying booby traps to mines on the floor. 

What has evolution got to do with that?

I hadn't heard that but I'm not surprised.  They are one of the creepiest companies lol.  How many other creepy behind the scenes projects do they have going on is what I'd like to know.

Are you serious or sarcastic now..? There are lots of proofs that humans (and the earth) existed before the bible lol!

I don't want any more evolution. Enough for now.

who said we have ever evolved? i was talking to my doctor and he doesnt believe that the human body has evolved and if it has been then where is the history of it before te bible? i think that god did create the eart and the human maybe

We need to make sure enough of the population can see the signs and the light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5NSU5yuKE

No it isn't, but I still prefer being human, not a machine. And why would you want to become resistant to damage anyway? In any case we're many years away from that. Stem cell research and development will be finished for public use long before then.

I agree with you and I understand you, you told the truth. But I must say that we need to evolve more when you see how much problems we do to our planet. There we need to evolve a lot.

egypt is not evolving. it's just going through a cycle. first a dictator comes, does his shit, and people get pissed off. then people protest and eventually he becomes a deposed leader. they have election cycles to vote for a de facto dictator. rinse and repeat.

That sounds correct

Everyone here thinks too much like a 'human'  in 30000 years or more there is no more "human" - we are laughted at like neanderthals.  Consider the following:

in 30,000 years, heck in 5000 years, we would be considered cavemen by our offspring because of things like:  Pride, Jealousy, and Hatred.  Those things are what cause WAR right now still to this day in 2014.  There is no side-stepping this facet.  Eventually, rationalization will either come to a logistical 'cold/calculated' utilitarianistic 'I kill for the sake of us all'  'I die for the sake of us all' or we will evolve to Euphemize it.  Events will become more efficient - think no more lines for food, no more lines for banks.  No more jail time/justice system - only execution or stasis.  Perhaps we will be able to involve a type of cryostasis where your real jail time is simply an hour - but the perceived jail time is Years/Decades/Centuries (a prison trap in your mind).  Space is only colonized for the economic gain from the available raw materials.  Those raw materials could include exterior habitable planetary moons or stations - but these new 'habitats' will only be accessible by the wealthiest whom control the lions share of our resources.

WE WILL NOT GROW WINGS NOR LONGER WIDER HANDS NOR TALLER.  Those evolutionary adaptations only occur when they are NECESSARY ADAPTIONS REQUIRED FOR CONTINUED SURVIVAL - if keyboards grew from trees and we only used those grown from trees, then maybe those who had longer fingers may benefit?  But otherwise what happens is - humans adapt their surroundings and resources to better fit our constraints (that is, we adapt things to better fit our desires)  Thus, we would rather create ergonomic cars, keyboards, drinking containers to appeal to the masses before we develop the need to evolve over a long timescale.    Humans NEVER grew wings because there was never an evolutionary advantage into doing so.  If over the course of 10s of millions of years, we found that a small thin fold of skin helped us glide to food/safety more often than not, then we would have slowly grown longer and thinner flaps of skin until they became the wings necessary to fly.  We lost hair over the course of evolution because it was no longer as necessary once we started killing other wild beasts and using their hides for warmth and protection - thus we evolved to lose it.  Humans will likely retain their height and averageness - We don't get collectively smarter unless something drastic happens and kills off the majority of average citizens.  Smart folks are few and far between - a vast majority of 'smart' people today are simply parrots - taking what they read from textbooks and the internet and repeating it to your face ad nauseum.  Smart folks will actually take knowledge and create new things from this gained knowledge.  Smart folks will look at the status quo for any given particular process and will place it upon themselves to refine or improve the status quo process. 

I think we are still evolving. With our continues over usage of brain, reading, typing and proper nutrition we will become taller, bigger would have bigger heads, wider eyes long hands and fingers in the future 10000 -30000 years from now. But some other groups may may evolve differently.

I agree the advancement of technology is not benefiting the people as much as it should be.  If we stay on this track there will be a future none of us would want to live in for coming generations.

People still fight for fun, even though it hurts (hello sports, hello everyday fights in schools, prisons and such).
That soon is many years away. Also replacing a damaged part is not the same as being resistant to damage in the first place.

No, it doesn't. Sounds pretty damn terrifying to me.

I do prefer that over being a machine. Anyway, thanks to all the stem cell research being done right now, we'll soon be able to replace any parts of us that's damaged.
Unless we replace the part of the brain that controls feeling. Then we'd be cold, calculating, 100% rational machines. Sounds like fun, doesn't it?

Imagine how awesome would be if your body was tough enough to withstand punches and kicks without a scratch.

People would be fighting eachother cause it's fun, only thing that could hurt would be weapons.. or words.

So you like the fact that the human body is weak and can be destroyed easily?

I think calling them a 'Society of conscience' is going a bit too far.

3 regimes?

Well they are risking their lives to build a new society of conscience.
They already took down 3 regimes

How are they evolving?

We really should evolve but in social awareness!
Look at Egypt, they are evolving.

I wouldn't. And to be honest I don't think many people really does.

No since it moves so slow. We can notice adaptations though like in birds and dogs but only by studying them.

"it's a bird it's a plane it's superman"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtYEpx4Bsc

Would we ever even notice evolution in anything?

Aren't machines better? Wouldn't you want to be a robot or hybrid (and look like Iron man)?

If humans stopped wanting to improve and have more, there would be no more technological advancement, everything would just stagnate. These traits that so many people seem to pretend to hate is the reason why we are where we are as a race today.

Sounds like fun life. I mean, that's just destroying the meaning of life, and the joy of living. I would not take part in such a dystopian future.

The brain will be directly connected to the computer. You don't need to type to computers, cellphones, remote, connecting to intenet etc. All you need is to think it. You don't need to go to school because lessons will directly uploaded to your brain. You don't to watch movies all you need is upload it to your brain.

What do you mean with this?
That's a bit of paradox, since it's also in human nature to care for others, and helping people in need makes us feel good.
At the same time we're greedy and selfish and constantly want more.
If we just stopped wanting more and would settle with having just enough, the world would be a much better place. One cannot do everything, but everyone can do something.

Unless you change the human nature, which is not happening anytime soon, things will not change, no matter what you do, it's in our human nature to be stupid, greedy, and selfish and systems like capitalism exploit the human nature very well, there is enough resources on earth to make EVERYONE live a decent life, yet the system is built to make a 1% super rich elit a 9% rich, a 20% okish, and the rest poor.

No, you will not be needing any hands in the future. Because it will be directly connected to your brain.

This a gold comment love ya for this one.  8 fingers thats great.

I think humans still evolve but doesn't have much impact like in the past because of our technology. I don't think we need to evolve further what for. I think we are at peak now as an organism. What we need is to further advance our technology.

the only way someone could live to 200 is if they stopped worrying about $$ completely.

I don't understand people who don't want to stop aging. It makes no sense to me. Some guy in his 30s may say now that he wouldn't like to live forever, well, wait till you're 70. Aging is a disease, it's just one that we don't know how to cure yet.

And hey, if you get bored of life at 200 years old, you'd be free to just kill yourself. That doesn't mean everyone should die because of some weird rationalization, or worse, religion.

If we stopped aging, people would actually start caring about the environment, because it'd no longer be someone else's problem, it'd be YOUR problem.

And the overpopulation argument is also bullcrap. If people knew they wouldn't age, maybe they wouldn't pump out babies like it's their job. Richer people already have less babies than the poor. The world isn't even close to being overpopulated yet, either, it's just the distribution of wealth that's a problem. And also in the future, synthetic food will be available, and we will start to colonize other planets, etc...

Saying that stopping aging would be bad because of overpopulation is like saying curing cancer would be a bad thing, because too many people would survive!

True transhumanism does not come from external mechanics, it comes from within.  Love is what we're looking for, not machines.

we should evolve to a place where we can generate long quantum vanity bitcoin addresses without worrying about people hacking our accounts 

I agree with you "we are destroying freedom with technology" but if not democratic governments, then the corporate bad guys, terrorists, etc could take over government and everything could be put to a lot of bad things happen

I heard that google had recently invested in a company that experiments with immortality and how to obtain it. Looking at google, they haven't failed with much lately.

Why not? I would like some parts of ours to evolve further.

5 fingers? fuck that, gimme 8 so I can type easier. Our eyes? Do you know how shitty our eyes are compared to other animals? It's cause they were evolved to work perfectly under water, then when we started walking on land we had to evolve it from that so it never got perfect. We can't see things right in front of our noses, we cant see things 500 meters away in detail, we can't even see in the night which fucking sucks.

Evolve that shit to the max level and then I'll be satisfied.

I'm not at all interested in living forever but If we could extend life for another 100 years or so I'd be very happy with that.  Life seems to be very fast and spending more times with my loved ones would be priceless IMO.

life is too fucking grim for me to want to live forever. and if we were able to achieve reverse-aging technology, it would be pretty fucked up. people would still die (from accidents and injuries/trauma), but not enough to scale with the amount of new births we are having.. that would cause a huge problem with the population.

wait till they figure how to unlock how to stop cells from dying and brain and heart from aging, what if this was the immortality that we are searching for all this time?   What if that is what god wants us to figure out?

In many ways it feels like we are de-evolving these days.  I think it is time for some organic evaluational growth spurts for mankind and fast.  Not to fast mind you but fast enough for people to wake up and stop degenerating.

Our minds need to evolve nothing else.

We have been on that road for a while and it just keeps getting worse. Most of us have already become sheep. They do not think, they listen.

Stopping aging =/= living forever.

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you're talking about.

You really believe in satan?

Idk about you people but I for one can't wait for transhumanism. And there's also a smallish chance that some people alive today will be around when we learn to stop aging, who wouldn't want that?

This picture is worth more that 1000 words. It is so true. I am afraid people are so indoctrinated today that they won't even start to question current sick political and economic system. We are on the road to destruction...

i think we don"t need evolve  yet we can made beter human. I think of robo-people, clone, modyfication DNA etc..

Sad to say this, but the banking sector is a by-product of the welfare state, i.e normal democracy. In a typical Libertarian state, there will be no exploitative banking sector. But since 90% of the humans don't have the capability to think freely, we have welfare democracy.

Isn't ego what all humans have unfortunately evolved into? Sometimes I think it's all that separates us from other species. That and greed and all the other deadly sins.

We need to evolve but no longer from the ego.  It's time we found our true spiritual nature and oneness once again.

We as a people can change everything if we want to. Stop paying your masters wages and voting for crooks and they'll soon get the picture. Are you going to be the revolutionary that stands up and leads the way? 

do you research? im not an expert in avoiding government 

some small countryside has jammed internet(purposely). red it on yahoo
you can choose to live technology free if youre so bothered 

we need to create our own bitcoin island in order to survive

There are many things happening with science and technology, we are destroying freedom with technology.  Unless we all can can stand up up to against our goverments, are kids are gonna learn to accpet the gov bullies.