Topic: I have a 12 word seed phrase that appears to be wrong (Ethereum) (Read 709 times)

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its impossible, the word arrangement itself was provided and made to be one of its security features.
i already feel sorry for you though.
try to check if you have backed it up in different way.
thats the only thing i could think of that you could retrieve it.

I don't think you can copy the seed words properly. This problem is due to not being able to copy. If I could copy it properly, I would not see this problem

Isnt strange if mistake happen? Since after create the wallet, theres a check to verify that the seed u save is correct 100%, Possibility is only he send to wrong address or maybe the metamask that he download is a fake one.

There are not many options:
- you used a fake resource to transfer funds
- your seed phrase contains an error or a mistake, because the mechanism of the seed phrase, and the algorithm for working with it is deterministic, which means that only if the seed key matches 100% will you gain access to your wallet, and if the difference is 1 bit, you will not get access to your wallet. This is math, and here "a little mistake" gives a guaranteed different result

Yes, if the seed phrase or private key is lost, it is clear that it will be difficult to recover it and you will no longer be able to access the wallet containing 12 ETH, so only regret can be enjoyed by the wallet owner.

You must consider that you already lost your 12 Ethereum. From next time always keeps your seed phrase in 2 places to be safer side and always try to login through the seed phrase or private key after that do transaction in your wallet & sorry to say there is no way to get back your correct seed phrase.

This could be a rare scenario when your already have the seeds written down and supplied it wrong once restoring your wallet. I don't think that you are completely written up correctly coz that was impossible it declines. I'd never experience this before and one of my practice to check if my wallet address is accessible, I open the wallet in the other tab and once I can still open it then it means that all of my seeds phrase are right and it was safe to make deposits.

One thing i know is that the blockchain is consistent in its dealing; in this light it is impossible for your written seed to display or load up a different wallet account. I urge you to do a clarity test. The etherumm address you sent 2 eth to, note it down. Then the seed phrases you have, import it to trust wallet; then copy the etherum address after importing.

After doing that, visit ethplorer, or etherscanio to scan the wallets address; if they are 2 different wallet, then you have a wrong seed. If its the same wallet address and you cannot find the 12 eth; then call the sender of the eth, or check if the transaction failed or got completed.

It simply means the seed phrase you copied down is not correct or written in a correct order. Meanwhile I think you should check the transaction when you sent the 12 ETH to the wallet and check if the address tallies with the ones you saw when you inserted the seed phrase. This is only how I could link it up. Ortherwise it's gone.

Theoretically, hacking ETH is possible. But it is almost impossible to do this. In practice, you just need a very large number of computers and capacities. The system itself is resistant to hacking, problems can only occur with the wallet. Attempts to pick up the keys are fantastic, there are countless combinations.

I did not know of any software that can crack ETH, but you should try and cehcke the 12 words very well and mind you some of the software are Case sensitive. Make use you type the correct words with correct letter.

It doesn't make sense，i think the biggest possibility is where did you get it wrong，think back to that carefully，at last，wish you could get your 12 ETH back.

To all those who claim that "there is no software for seed phrase recovery" I want to say that you are wrong. Such a program exists! Another question: how long will it take to recover this phrase? Yes, this is a rather long process, especially if you need to restore all 12 words.
However, turning to the author of the topic, I will say this: if you write me your words in a personal message ([email protected]), for example, in the first 9-10 words, I can restore your seed phrase using my program and equipment. Yes, I will need some time for this. It all depends on the number of words available.
Since you do not see your funds during normal loading of the seed phrase, I will also have to look for your address in deterministic wallets, which will further delay the recovery process.
I will also need your public address to check the availability of funds in the amount of 12 eth.
What do I want for this? If our partnership is successful, you will give me, of your own free will, 50% of the amount in this wallet.
In this case: You get the opportunity to get back into possession of 50% of the funds from the account, or stay with your useless seminal phrase. For my part: I run the risk of wasting my time and resources (also quite significant) and not finding anything or getting my own 50% for finding a seed phrase. This is an equal partnership. Moreover, I do not know what % of my share will go to pay for electricity and how long it will take. But I can say that at the moment the speed is: 3507.2 seeds per second.
And regarding the fact that some people write, that you wrote down incorrectly or something else, I want to remind everyone of the rules of BIP-39, which read:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki
BIP-39: Wordlist
An ideal wordlist has the following characteristics:
a) smart selection of words
   - the wordlist is created in such a way that it's enough to type the first four
     letters to unambiguously identify the word
b) similar words avoided
   - word pairs like "build" and "built", "woman" and "women", or "quick" and "quickly"
     not only make remembering the sentence difficult but are also more error
     prone and more difficult to guess
c) sorted wordlists
   - the wordlist is sorted which allows for more efficient lookup of the code words
     (i.e. implementations can use binary search instead of linear search)
   - this also allows trie (a prefix tree) to be used, e.g. for better compression
The wordlist can contain native characters, but they must be encoded in UTF-8 using Normalization Form Compatibility Decomposition (NFKD).

Why is it profitable for me that you give me 50% of your funds on the wallet? Because it will be honestly earned money, not stolen money !!!

There is no software to crack seed phrase, once you don't have access to the correct seed, just forget the wallet. But u can check the seed well, probably when writing down the seed down, there was a mistake with one of the word, probably is something u can guess and replace.

some time all these questions or answers just don't make any sense.

yes that's right, it's likely some kind of duplicate metamask. because as long as I use a hard wallet in which using the phrase is always safe, because I myself know the structure.
related to solving these 12 words is very difficult and will even result in a complex arrangement of patterns. 12 words x 12 positions. I guess that's quite a problem.

in my own opinion, i did advice you keep trying the one you already have, this is why i always tell people to always be very careful when writting down seed phrases most especially when the wallet involved contains any form of money, cus if by any small mistake, you miss a letter or added a letter that no there, BOOM, money is more than half way gone, except you are able to figure out a way to retrace and make a correction, you are likely never to own your money again cus theres no software that can help.

First there is no software that can partially crack Ethereum seed phrases, once lost that's the end of the wallet, if there is, many people will know about it (nevertheless, I stand to be corrected). Also, try checking the words to ensure they are spelt correctly, check the letters to ensure the are correctly marching the words. However, another idea you can try is, since you said the 12 words are correct, import the wallet to another wallet app like Imtoken or trust wallet or whichever you want; if the words are correct it will import and you can see your assets. Lastly, just a suggestion, in case of another time, write the 12 words twice in different places if possible before completing the wallet creation, just to ensure there is no discrepancies.

@OP, I can see lot of people claiming that they can recover your funds but don't trust anyone they might steal your funds.

First of all post you ethereum address here to find whether 12ETH present there or moved to which addresses.

12 ethereum is a very serious amount mate , when dealing with such amounts , at least for me, you can't be to carefull , these 12 words are your key's to your ETH , think that a lot of people learned all this the hard way , believe you learned your lesson to , still a hard loss

Have you installed right metamask in browers or download real metamask ? 12 seeds is unique and you have to write down with correct and in safer file. Sometimes, it shows wrong with the change of letters in 12 words. Check whether the metamask you installed is correct or not.

I help to recover seed-phrases using my software and my equipment. MetaMask wallet only (BIP-39). Contacts - [email protected]

Hello! Are you still thinking about how to solve the seed phrase problem?

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I tried btcrecover, it could not recover the seed. And yes, the ETH is still in the original address.

If the seed phrase that he gave to you is empty that means it has no balance or he has moved it out of the address. as I said before, did you know the address that contains the balance? if you know, check it first before doing brute-forcing because it is time-consuming (even I do not know it is going to work or not, I never used it to do this kind of thing. I used btcrecover to bruteforce the password).

Any new wallet warned you before open an account that they have no control in private key. So you should write it down in your notebook perfect. For another secure layer you should visit one time and keep back process. Only one word is everything.

  As explained above multiple times now, the ETH is still in the address it was sent too.


I don't know why he would lie to me, as far as I know he has no reason too.
The actual seed phrase he gave me checked out, but did not have any balance.



Already tried this with no luck, also tried changing the word he though was wrong to the most similar ones from the English wordlist

There are many situations that can happen here.
You may have entered a fake version of the Metamask wallet, there are currently many fake versions created to steal users' money.
You may have had an account hack and you wrote down the wrong seed phrase.
You should first check the wallet address here https://etherscan.io/. If the wallet address is correct and 12 ETH is still in the wallet, you should carefully check your seed phrase, many cases of wrong writing from the seed can still occur.
I have never heard of Ethereum phrase cracking software.

If you are talking about bruteforce, there's definitely no way a scammer will do such method because it'll be not worth it anymore because bruteforcing a password is not as simple as "picking a password"

Retesting the seed is a crucial part that most of people usually just skip. They don't know that there are chances error to occur and not testing the seed beforehand is really something lackeys would do.
Maybe OP need to check out the word one by one if there's any typo in it or try to rearrange the words which surely take a quite the time.

you should double check the words in your seedphrase maybe you misclick and not notice that you added some characters or numbers in your seedphrases hope you bro recover your 12 eth ethereum seed pharases is hard to crack.

Now just picking a password to hack the metamask is very difficult but there are many other ways through which scammers doing this.

Double-check the seed phrase, sometimes the small punctuation or single letter can change everything in the security world of Cryptocurrencies. Maybe there is password protection for the seed phrase in the second level of decrypting the ETH wallet. If you remember that there is no password protection, then trying different combinations of seed phrases will solve the problem, I hope.

You already have the 12 seed words. But why is it still wrong and the metamask refuses to accept it? Maybe a letter is wrong and you should know where it is. And when you know where the wrong word are, look for the right letter to add. Similar to

Star = Stars

there is no way in my opinion, that I know if you forget the password to login wallet maybe there are still services that accept it because my friend has done it. but if you lose the seed, your funds will be lost

I agree with cj why not having multiple way of recovering before you sent your eth. Saving your private key is a good way since you can use open it in many different wallet using private key.
I'm guessing you didn't try to reopen the wallet with your passphrase before transferring the eth balance ,thats why its happen.

As far as I know, if the seed is wrong the wallet will refuse to load the address. but why did he say the address seems empty?
before brute-forcing it, have you tried checking the wallet that contains the balance?
this is quite fishy, are you sure the seed is associated with an address that contains a balance inside of it? your friend might lie to you.

If you inserted a seed into MEW and it gave you access to the list of wallets, then most likely you wrote it down correctly, otherwise you would not have access. Perhaps you just need to carefully look at all the wallets and find the one that contains 12 ETH. I think you just missed it because I had similar situations.

Same sad story for newbie to visit phishing address. This same story repeat by new members. Several times experts suggest to visit legit address and check several times. Another thing should check before send coin, login your wallet to check 12 words or private wallet is perfectly noted

So this friends of yours lost his seedphrase? And you think that only 1 word that is wrong. Not to be rude or something, but how did you or your friend knew that the 3rd word is the wrong one? Does that mean you remember correctly the other ones? That is why you have to always save the unique phrase in somewhere safe but you could retrieve them whenever you want to. Piece of advice, always double check everything you've wrote down especially if it's an important things.

As for the tools to crack ethereum seed phrases, if such tools exist, don't you think it would make the wallets easier to be hacked by hackers..

As explained above, quite a few times now:
1. I have a 12 word seed. It appears to be wrong. I suspect there is only one word (the 3rd one) that is wrong.
2. This is a problem I am helping solve for a FRIEND



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Updates:
I started a 'btcrecover' program to try bruteforce the broken words, but I have no idea how long it will take. (So far seems to be taking quite a while)

It's obvious you copied the wrong thing. When it comes to taking note of back up phrase or private keys, carefulness is needed because once created there is hardly anyway to crack it. Mostly we are talking about Ethereum blockchain is one of most secured blockchain. So I will implore you go back and check the words again and maybe check where you have written other word seed might be you are using another for it. I have not heard of cracking Ethereum seed phrases.

Are you the real owner of the 12Eth? Why would you want to crack the phrases this quickly when you can still try other methods? If phrases are that easy to guess, don't you think Ethereum will be at risk

When you search by public key on https://etherscan.io/ , does the amount you send appear there? If so, match the public keys when you access the wallet. Maybe you try with other wallet seeds. If this is not the case, share more information about the transaction.

No way to crack it now. You should copy and paste that seed phrases to notepad or something like that and save it carefully. But what happen with your old metamask? You can find the way to access it through your password, then export again the seed phrases. I think it's the only possible way now.

Letter? If there is an error in one letter then the seed will not be accepted.
I think what you mean is there is an error word that he has copied. But as far as I know, you cannot open a wallet using a seed with an incorrect word on it, there seem to be an unknown error when he created the wallet and it's really hard to determine the issue if there is no images that we can see to help OP with his problem.

right, a 1 letter error can cause us to fail to access it. what I usually do is copy and save it, and if I need to access it I just copy and paste, this is to avoid writing errors. but if you feel you are correct but cannot access it, I think it is difficult for that, especially if there is no recovery option

If you really write down the 12 words by yourself then it means you wrote the wrong thing. My little advice would be to check each word, and most especially the spelling, that's where the mistake might be. That is, you might have written color as colour, something like that. Next time, ensure you cross-check those 12 words and if possible write them down twice.

I do have these 12 words. One must of been written down wrong.


My friend. As explained above.



The coins are still in the address that it was sent too. They have not moved an inch.



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Very unlikely to break the seed of a coin like Ethereum. Sometimes we have saved the private key or seed and we forget if ever wrong to squeeze the letters and seed replaced add 1 letter.
Lost already from the seed created a new wallet because no one used the seed. So it is difficult to crack a private key or a seed to restore your wallet because they can not access your wallet too.

When writing 12 words, You had to follow the instructions and write those words in a notebook.Now it is almost impossible to pick up these 12 words.

Who are 'we' ? is someone there with you when you created the metamask wallet? anyways even if its been stolen there should be history of transactions sent from the wallet, can you provide the eth address?

Sorry to hear, i believe you download the wrong metamask version and you got your coins stolen, i won't even recommend the metamask because it works as inbrowser plugin which is not safe at all

It is very unlikely that your seed has been hacked or cracked by someone if you did not make a mistake. My assumption is that you must have used fake metamask which was discussed a lot yesterday. This is clearly your negligence.
On the other hand, somehow I do not really believe in metamask because its use is only installed on the browser. Which could be a bad person copying it to take your keylogger whether it's seed, mnemonic, and privkey. Try to be more careful next time using a wallet other than metamask like Trustwallet for mobile devices and use MEW or hardware wallet if you are using a PC.

I do know 12 words though. I suspect the 3rd one is the one that is incorrect, there is no way to bruteforce it?



Why is it not possible?

Not possible to crack seed words. I do not think any software can do that. Check once again the address where you sent those ETH and then try once again. Otherwise forget it.

that software will not help you a lot. How it is possible? as far as i know, before you create a new wallet and then metamask will give you a pop up to save your seed phrase into a file. you should ask him if did he already downloaded it or not?

That doesn't make sense if he was not trying all of the options to store his metamask. there will be a million possibilities to crack your seedphrase and that will not help you to recover your seed phrase again. If you have been losing it and there is no way to recover it.

So many people have been talking about this, some already made a request to add an export feature for metamask and the dev keeps ignoring it.

That's a bummer. You might have written a part of the seed wrong. There's no way (There is but it is near impossible to do so) for you to crack it because if ETH were to be crackable, then why use it. Try to check if you have a screenshot of the seed hidden in your folder because that's what I do just in case.

I don't know if btcrecover works on ETH seed, I only know it used for brute forcing password.

Nope, I did not steal these seed words. I am trying to help out a friend.



I found this software - BTCRecover - https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/


I am also sure that he used the correct version of metamask.

Have I understood it correctly, that the associated addresses of ETH wallet you're trying to recover were empty? If that's true, then there is no reason for you to recover it; your effort will just turn into waste. Another thing, is it really necessary to crack Ethereum seed phrases if it's yours? Perhaps it's better to use the private key instead for you to be able to access it fully. If nothing works, then there's nothing we can do for your ETH IMO.

Double check address where you sent this 12 ETH coins on explorer.
Maybe you sent it to some other address.

You can't 'crack' ethereum seed words

I think there's no software that could do that because the seed phrases is not saved anywhere on their database so we are the only one know the seed phrases, except for hardware wallet like ledger there are the key button to reset or recover the wallet if we lost the seed or private key

lol READ what he said...   omg
he MADE an ETH addy, SENT 12 ETH to it, then wrote down the seed words
NOW hes trying to restore it, but it wont take the seed...        he says nothing about being robbed... now if he said "the ETH was transferred OUT", you might be right, but he didnt

@OP, theres no way for me to know from what u have said if i would be helping you jack someone (maybe you stole those seed words?) so i wont suggest how to solve this
imo, next time save a priv key put it in a text file and encrypt that text file. problem solved

Did you download the correct link for metamask? I'm thinking is that you might have downloaded the fake version of metamask and the seed that was given to you is also known by the creator of it. Which means that after seeing that you have sent ETH to it, they've sweep your balance.

Hello everyone...

Hopefully this is the right place to post something like this.

12 ETH was sent to a new Metamask wallet, and the seedphrase written down. We have all 12 words.

But when we try to restore the wallet, all associated addresses seem to be empty.


Does anyone know any software too partially crack Ethereum seed phrases? (Try combinations of similar words)