Topic: I have been offered over $10,000 to sell my account. (Read 657 times)

Very sad how people feels that everything is about money. As a CM, your account can even give you more than a Million dollar even if it takes more than a year to achieve it but your brand and reputation will stand the test of time and within those years you must have built more solid reputation and connections that will make people to trust you more and confidently give you their projects to manage which implies that more money will flow.

Someone can decide to sell their account for a million dollar but since the money came so easily, they can spend the money extravagantly and possibly go broke without a means of livelihood again and their life become a mess but with your brand and reputation, even if your income comes seasonally but you are sure that you will certainly be hired to manage projects in the future which means that even if you are out of contract in the moment, it won't be for a long time.

I think he should also archive the archives.  Cross archives, so to speak.  RAID 5 the fuck out of those archives.  Striped archives.  That way he can use archives as evidence of tampering with the archives in case the archives are purged by deep-state DT network/archive collusion.

I already told you, we are werewolves and it was a full moon... If that's not a good excuse then I don't know what is. BTW, I don't think archiving my post in 2 places is enough. What if the DT trolls lobby the archives to get such incriminating posts deleted from their repositories? What then? You need to have at least 4 archives, minimum.

That's an extraordinary admission of complicity by you in the theft of tens of thousands of dollars.

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No, I meant $11 worth, or 50 Tron to be exact. I’ve created the below thread as I ponder the offer and see what sort of riches I could have in store for me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-have-50-tron-what-will-you-give-me-for-it-5528760

If anyone out there is a Tron stacker and is drooling at the idea of getting 50 more, feel free to make an offer in that thread.

Not funny. Do your math.

R7 promotions have a yearly turnover of half a million. Why would I destroy it for even a few millions? Besides the respect, influence I have in the whole crypto space, why would I destroy it for some million dollars? Practically it make no sense.

I love the title, it makes me feel very reputable. It's a kind of click bait though.

It's worth to mention it. I know account as yours is worth over $10k because it's not only a BTT thing but a brand in crypto.

yahoo62278 said with $100k, he won't consider selling his account;

minerjones said even if you offer him all the bitcoin in existence, he won't sell his account.

Now you said you won't sell for $1 Million. It's interesting and also funny.

The title sounds account uchegod-21 was offered $10,000 which is a bit misleading title but fine anyway :-P
Not sure if it is worth to mention, several months ago I got an offer of $14k for my account to sell, I never thought it was a big deal. My current signature deal is more than that amount for a year :-D

PS: I don't think even with a million dollar I will be giving away my brand and reputation.

It makes no sense for anyone to pay $10,000 for any bitcointalk account, but I have seen people doing crazier things than that.
I guess if some member was active in top paying signature campaigns than buyer could hope to return his ''investment'' and start earning, but this would be highly risky and other members would notice something strange and tag the account.

Those who solemnly depends on the forum signature campaign income are the people who can sell their accounts and for those who have extra income earning will not because the amount you are offering is not up to their earning a year or two years to come. And if you are a good poster in the forum too you can get that amount within 2 to 3 years if you are in a signature campaign. So what is the reason of selling your hard earned trained account.
And I anyone buying that account is not for good but for dubious reason to deceive people to collect money. But he will be caught probably after the first attempt.

Smart, as if you did, the network would probably be forked and your 21,000,000 bitcoin would probably be worth less than $100k not long after you attain them 


A lot of OG names probably would not be familiar to you and many of us who weren't here in the very early days, and a lot of those names are probably no longer active or just pop in occasionally for the nostalgia...most probably have no need to be paid by a signature campaign to post actively, some might not be happy with how things changed, some might've passed away, gotten in trouble, just got bored of being here, or (hopefully most/many cases) retired themselves by now due to Bitcoin's appreciation.

This forum was created by Satoshi in 2009. It's the biggest forum for Bitcoin, started by Satoshi himself. Presumably lots happened between 2009 and when you joined in 2021, many members would have come and gone, especially since Bitcoin went astronomic in 2020-21.

Once upon a time, there was a tool that calculated value of particular BTT account based on some data - but I think that some kind of approximate value could be calculated based on how much a particular BTT account earns weekly/monthly through a sig campaign or some other income. Let's take an example of someone getting $400 a month for 12 months, that's roughly $5000 a year.

So mine doesn't have much value, and even if someone offered ten times that much, I wouldn't even blink an eye at that amount - people who have been on this forum for ten years and need to sell their BTT accounts have clearly wasted their time here.

Besides, whoever offered @philipma1957 only $10k for his account is some amateur who knows nothing about him - he has a stable source of income through his mining operation and that $10k means nothing to him in life.

$11k you meant?

I was offered $11 worth of Tron for my account.

Yes, I seem to recall that's exactly what happened. As werewolves we become a bit unpredictable during a full moon, and if I look up the dates involved yes indeed the moon was full roughly thereabout, so you can't really blame us. Its just our nature. If only we'd a been able to properly listen to you back then, thing woulda been... woulda been, well, different... assuredly.

Yes, I was also approached (on Discord), but the extra zero (back when the price of Bitcoin was about half of what it is now) made me chuckle. (As did the PDF letter of confidentiality that followed)

I figure I was approached because I'm now up to ten-thousand posts and was closing in on that value with regular posts.

(Don't believe me?  That's your problem, not mine)

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I seem to recall warning that Dabs had multiple outstanding loans a long time before others took any noticed (and of course the Woke DT Trolls howled foul at my warnings then foamed at the mouth...)

If I understand the situation correctly, there are two defaults made by the dabs account. There is a $16,800 default on a loan from DarkStar_ on a $15,000 loan from November 2022.

There is another loan default of 0.605 BTC from zazarb on a 0.5 BTC loan from September 2022.

On the date of the loan 27th September 2022, BTC was worth $19,110 therefore the loan value at the time was $9555. By those calculations the total default on loans by the dabs account at the time was $26,355.  It is worth significantly more now because the value Bitcoin has increased.

Is this dabs account behind the biggest default in the forum as far as USDT in concerned?

 

Anyone who is willing to offer $10,000 for an account already knows they would make more than that $10,000 from the account. This is an offer any greedy person might accept without thinking twice, but it won’t end with just the transaction.

Not all scammers are that dumb; they might even go as far as studying and imitating the writing style of @Philipma1957 for a while, and one day they’ll strike. This is a very reputable member of the forum, and we shouldn’t be surprised if some gullible members fall victim before the deception is spotted by more vigilant members.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone reject even $100,000 offered for their account. There are still people who value their reputation above everything else.

i'm not an expert, but it does work if done right. AFAIK links added to the signature have a "ugc" link attribute, and links added to the profile are "dofollow" by default.
"ugc" links aren't as powerful as dofollow links, but they are definitely better than nofollow links, so they still provide some seo value.

no, his new posts won't get more exposure just because he has +40K. the signature, personal text, and avatar will get more exposure because he has more posts where they will be displayed.

he rarely posts outside the collectibles section, so unless you visit that part of the forum, it's normal that you did not come across him.

MJ is *THE MAN* in the collectables world here.
If you ever spend more then a minute in that section you will see him.

But it does bring up the point, how many people spend time in areas that don't interest them that much or know the users there.

Yeah, I poke in the gambling section every now and then and have even made a fair number of posts there over the years.
But, I could not tell you who are the big users / posters in the gambling section.

-Dave

Is Bitcointalk this large?
Since 2021 I have been in this forum, I haven't come across your username anywhere. It is it me that doesn't explore the forum, or you that doesn't post often. I have long thought Hhampuz is the most trusted. I had to go check the bpip.org and you are seated at the No.1 spot. 

Those making this offer wants to unleash the greatest evil one can ever imagine on this forum, they are definitely up to no good. But the good thing is that  the moment such account change hands, people will know and will be monitoring them closely for what their intentions might be. Philipm1957 is a very gifted writer with knowledge in many aspect of bitcoin, mining, economics and life in general so the person that will buy the account will have a hard time maintaining discussion in various boards like the real owner. People will also watch if such account is asking for loans as that will expose the person who bought the account. In summary, it would have been a bad market for the buyer.

edit eventually to almost instantly.

Most (all?) of the well known accounts would be easy to detect if they changed hands.

If for instance I started posting in non English sections.
Or started in massively in the altcoin sections.

Yes, I have posted a couple of things in non English with the use of Google Translate and noted it as such.
And have had some posts in alts.
But not enough in either to be known there.

Or if I stated a project asking for money
Or if I started looking for loans.

etc.

There really is no way for it not to be spotted.

Same with you. Just picking on you since it's the message I replied to, but if you started selling expensive collectables without escrow and posting about this new memecoin you found it's going to make people look twice.

-Dave

Whoever buys a high ranking account will mess it up eventually. While it might be a good financial opportunity for the seller even though it is not an ethical decision, it is definitely a shit purchase for the buyer because he won’t have the same posting habits as the old owner and eventually people figure it out that he bought his account and then his account won’t function the way it used to be anymore.

Then what he paid for nothing. It is very risky to buy accounts no matter how you spin it. $10k for the best ranking account in btt? What a waste of money.

Before the account had committed fraud, I was sure the account was marked with a bright red label.🔥

I think the account is appreciated, not at his job as a manager, if the person who wants to buy the account is crazy, of course he will buy in any amount of $ 20k offer is not a problem for crazy people.

I don't know, I think $5 is hard to buy, Besides, I'm still sane, not crazy, what else to sell it.

$100k? Ha... I wouldn't sell this account for all the bitcoin

An opportunity to ask. Does this SEO and back links of a thing works? I would want to get an honest answer from an SEO expert. If philipma1957 is hired in a campaign and he makes 30 posts per week and I am also hired in the same campaign and makes same 30 posts per week. Apart from the fact that forum members would want to read what philipma will say than what I will say, is his posts going to get more exposure than mine just because he has 40+k post counts?

I have never heard of this... Like Darkstar_ and co forfeited such amount? This is an example that most accounts we think is worth much actually doesn't.

It is to me Anyone else wouldn't last long before they're exposed as being "not me", so it would be pretty much worthless to them.

This comes to mind:

I'd argue high-profile accounts are much easier to spot when sold. Anyone on top of Most Recognized Profiles has many more eyes on them than accounts at the bottom of that list.

That's an interesting way to compare the account value. In this case, the lenders thought the account is worth more than that, but Dabs decided it's not.

Mods get paid for their moderation work, and the calculation of the amount isn't public. So an account buyer would still have to do good moderation work to get paid.

LOL. I do not have any intention to sell my account. But I don't think it's worth more than $5K. I don't think my account is even worth $5K because I did engage in trading on the forum and I do not have any reputation here. I may get some loans from a lending service while I am active and in a signature campaign. But if I get kicked out from a campaign, I don't think anyone will give a hundred dollars in loans without any collateral. For this reason, I don't think my account is worth that much money.

Wow, I didn't know about it. I wonder why someone risks that big amount on the forum. I cannot think of lending someone a few hundred dollars.

This account worth around $25K because he took two no collateral loans ($15K and 0.5 BTC in September 27, 2022) and he default it.

Moderators account might be the second highest value in this forum, the first one is the administrator account. It's because moderators get paid every month even they didn't make any post.

If someday one of high trusted account who used to be post about Bitcoin, then he create an ANN thread in Altcoin board with self moderated thread, I don't think people will easily believe the account is still controlled by the original owner.

I think the better question is we should be looking at here is;

Are these accounts in question capable of getting certain amounts in money, projects or even other valuables that would be worth as much as it was bought for, short term or long term?
Can they be used to get loans that would come close to that amount or bought amount?

Now note that, every bought account is an investment unto the buyer and definitely, would hope to make some profit from that investment. No one wants your account and reputation if it’s going to account for nothing. Managers have been given more money than $10k for an escrow and they are still here, handling campaigns. Perhaps you can check some of the managers resume in their service threads and the escrowed amount for a single project at times is half of that.
Accounts that holds half of that holds half of that for a project will sure have some more on other projects which beats that price.

Though it’s a lot for users, it’s nothing to some others and in this case, clearly not worth it. The measure of an account is what you give it as a reputable user. It means even more when you respectfully detach yourself from the forum than sell your account and come back here as a guest to see what trash have been done to your name by a new owner and how everything you worked to build in years have been dragged to the mud. It sure would hurt.

You are right to and extent but it will be nearly impossible for the person, who will buy mainly for scam, not to succeed. Do you realise that we are talking about the most recognised account in the forum? If he creates a thread asking for a loan,  it will not take must inquiry from.people to offer him loan because he is a known person here. Although people will only worrying about the writing style and some minor things since that may probably be the first time he is making such request in the forum. Nevertheless,  I still believe the scammers would have made profits from that deal one way or the other leveraging on the reputation behind that account.

Definitely would have to be a super scam in mind if someone is offering $10k+. I think 10k is a pretty lowball offer though. Some of our accounts are pretty recognized. Theymos, hilariousandco, myself, icopress, Hhampuz, LoyceV, The Skeptical Chemist, suchmoon, minerjones, gmaxwell etc. The list goes on for at least 100 users on here. Pretty safe bet to say that those that are highly recognized wouldn't sell their accounts for 100k.

(Sorry for the tag to some of you, just trying to make a point)

No doubt, as I can't see anybody trying to buy an old account simply to enter it into a signature campaign and then wait until the buyer earns enough to make the purchase worth it--idiots who buy accounts here generally aren't that forward-looking to begin with, so there would have to be some kind of scheme they had in mind to scam $10k+.

As to what sort of account would be worth that amount of dough....it'd have to be an account that was very trusted, Legendary, and even then $10,000 is a lot for a single bitcointalk account, especially with all the risk involved in getting caught.  Hopefully none of the OGs here would consider selling their accounts to a potential scammer (or anyone else for that matter).  Bad things happen when accounts change hands.

buying an account like that makes no sense
if you spend $10,000 on an account, you'll still have to learn how to write, communicate, and express yourself just like the previous owner. On top of that, you'll need to understand their interests, like mining, for example.
people will notice the switch immediately. That would be the most pointless $10K ever spent on a forum.

buying an account like philipma1957 to pull a scam would be the dumbest thing ever. as soon as the new owner posts anything, we will know the account changed hands.

also, $10k is such a lowball tbh. some seo guys who would pay much more just to get permanent backlinks from his 48345 posts.

i doubt it, with how much scams are monitored here on the forum, the new owner of the account will be caught before they can scam anything close to what they paid.
but i guess they could scam a platform that want to run a signature campaign.

Would have been a huge waste of money.

In all likelihood the new owner would want the account to engage in some sort of massive scam; however, it would never work as philipma1957's writing style is inimitable. Also, most of us know he's not the type to launch some kind of project where he's asking for money from the Bitcointalk community. So the account would have been tagged in a matter of days. Same goes even if he was just joining a signature campaign. Additionally, I could come up with a few questions only the real philipma would know the answer to.

Even if he was just trying to do private deals via PM, it would be really hard to scam more than $10k before getting caught.

Hazink points out the obvious intention of these account buyers.   They see the $10K as a fee to bypass a few years of building a positive reputation, so they must believe they can earn more than that.   This can be confirmed if they asked philipma1957 to keep it quiet.    The account owner decides if they can earn more than the offer and if not, the scummy ones may sell.

It's a "end game" scam that cannot easily be prevented.    Once the community realizes the accounts has been sold they tag it, but by then the scammer and account seller have taken their profit.   Obviously accounts like philipma1957 and Vod go for six figures because we have earned overall trust here, whereas the most recognized scammer accounts won't draw much attention.   I just hope this doesn't turn into a contest of "I wouldn't sell MY account for 5 bitcoin!", because remember people can post anything. 

Expired accounts, like o_e_l_e_o, will also never sell, even if they are owned by a living person.   People know it would not be him.

The worth of an account is not going to be measured if you are a campaign manager or not, but I think it's based on the reputation that the person has built on that account and what the buyer thinks they can achieve using that account.

Aside from the campaign managers that you have mentioned above, there are other members who have built up trust in the community, and their account can be offered the same amount or even more, but the problem is, can the buyer be able to accomplish an exploit using that account before they get caught that the account has changed hands?

This got me curious and I began to ask myself the following questions;

• How many accounts in BTT currently worth over $10k? Apart from theymos account and the other admin.
• Are global moderators account worth this amount?
• Campaign managers? Hhampuz, Icopress, Royse?
• Other users like LoyceV, DdMrDdMr etc

I think most managers account is worth this, because if it enters scammers hands, they can pull a heavy scam even more than $10k.

Is your account worth more than $10k?