Topic: I just reverse engineered a scammer. Enjoy! (Read 2711 times)
report him
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll just leave the him a negative trust with a link to this thread.
I understand the potential of abuse if mods had such discretion, but when the evidence is so clear, I dont see how they wouldn't make a correction. I also sent a message to an administrator (who should have more authority). Thanks for the additional details on how the system works though.
I'm pretty sure that theymos and the mods don't make these sort of corrections anymore even with clear evidence (they may have done so in the past, just like the scammer tags). Good luck with your request, but if it doesn't work out don't be too worried, people in general aren't that big on trust coming from newbies; just don't scam anyone and you should be fine.
Yeah, feedback is just an opinion, which everyone is entitled to. The opinion of a scammer is meaningless, so there's no reason to worry about it.
I understand the potential of abuse if mods had such discretion, but when the evidence is so clear, I dont see how they wouldn't make a correction. I also sent a message to an administrator (who should have more authority). Thanks for the additional details on how the system works though.
I'm pretty sure that theymos and the mods don't make these sort of corrections anymore even with clear evidence (they may have done so in the past, just like the scammer tags). Good luck with your request, but if it doesn't work out don't be too worried, people in general aren't that big on trust coming from newbies; just don't scam anyone and you should be fine.
So he left me a negative trust rating as promised. I'm going to see if the mods will remove it. I hope they have this ability because if not, it would deter people from exposing scammers.
Yeah, mods in general don't remove negative trust from people, otherwise there is the possibility of abuse if the mods are not impartial. I wouldn't be too fussed about a single negative rep, as the user isn't on default trust so it doesn't give you a negative score (for people who haven't changed their trust) and if someone looks deep enough they'll realise its simply a newbie member giving trust, who themselves has no trust.
I understand the potential of abuse if mods had such discretion, but when the evidence is so clear, I dont see how they wouldn't make a correction. I also sent a message to an administrator (who should have more authority). Thanks for the additional details on how the system works though.
His feedback only adversely affects your Trust score for those that have put him in their Trust list--which I'm assuming is no one.
anyone that wants to use teamviewer/screenshare is a scammer. Absolutely no reason to have to use those. Thank you for exposing
So he left me a negative trust rating as promised. I'm going to see if the mods will remove it. I hope they have this ability because if not, it would deter people from exposing scammers.
Yeah, mods in general don't remove negative trust from people, otherwise there is the possibility of abuse if the mods are not impartial. I wouldn't be too fussed about a single negative rep, as the user isn't on default trust so it doesn't give you a negative score (for people who haven't changed their trust) and if someone looks deep enough they'll realise its simply a newbie member giving trust, who themselves has no trust.
I understand the potential of abuse if mods had such discretion, but when the evidence is so clear, I dont see how they wouldn't make a correction. I also sent a message to an administrator (who should have more authority). Thanks for the additional details on how the system works though.
So he left me a negative trust rating as promised. I'm going to see if the mods will remove it. I hope they have this ability because if not, it would deter people from exposing scammers.
Yeah, mods in general don't remove negative trust from people, otherwise there is the possibility of abuse if the mods are not impartial. I wouldn't be too fussed about a single negative rep, as the user isn't on default trust so it doesn't give you a negative score (for people who haven't changed their trust) and if someone looks deep enough they'll realise its simply a newbie member giving trust, who themselves has no trust.
Damn you took this much time to fake a skype chat? If requested i can provide full picture proof of real conversation
Seems like you're the scammer here. Know how I know? You're going to stop using the "toolongago" account starting right now...
hope mods help you out. Thanks for exposing the scammer
So he left me a negative trust rating as promised. I'm going to see if the mods will remove it. I hope they have this ability because if not, it would deter people from exposing scammers.
really? really? will you admit that this is the conversation we had on skype? I will be the first to request the conversation lmao. Is team viewer required? You know that everything you do wrong in this life you pay for kid. BTW still haven't received the $1. You should send all your money to me for charity because every ill-gotten dime you make scamming people will not last.
Damn you took this much time to fake a skype chat? If requested i can provide full picture proof of real conversation
If this kid tries to ruin my feedback, can mods fix it?
[10:14:09 PM] Karan: I've left you feedback
[10:14:12 PM] Karan: will get friends
[10:14:16 PM] Karan: to give you trust too
[10:14:19 PM] Karan:
users off the forums
[10:14:32 PM] Karan: enjoy the rest of your stay on bitcointalk you lousy 5$ scammer
[10:14:12 PM] Karan: will get friends
[10:14:16 PM] Karan: to give you trust too
[10:14:19 PM] Karan:
users off the forums[10:14:32 PM] Karan: enjoy the rest of your stay on bitcointalk you lousy 5$ scammer
So I get a message on here from "toolongago" responding to an ad of mine on the forum. He says he wants to purchase 3BTC. He tells me that he will send first and to go on skype to conduct the transaction. So i go on skype. HE THEN TELLS ME TO DOWNLAOD TEAMVIEWER LOL. Right when he said that, i knew what was going on. I decided to have a little fun with it Hope you guys enjoy BTW, anyone know any charity that accept LTC? If i ever get the coin that he claims he sent, ill donate it. (btw, I don't have kids lol, but i am in law school and everything I told him before he mentioned teamviewer is true)
[8:44:30 PM] *** Karan has shared contact details with Jibrael. ***
[8:44:39 PM] Karan: Hi
[8:44:51 PM] Jibrael: hey how's it going?
[8:44:54 PM] Karan: good how are you
[8:45:20 PM] Jibrael: good.
[8:45:36 PM] Karan: you're selling BTC correcT?
[8:45:40 PM] Karan: is this miamisales
[8:45:42 PM] Karan: bitcoinmianmi
[8:45:43 PM] Karan: or w.e.
[8:45:44 PM] Jibrael: yes
[8:46:28 PM] Karan: How much bitcoin remaining?
[8:47:55 PM] Jibrael: 3.09btc
[8:47:58 PM] Jibrael: https://blockchain.info/address/1JYuH5uMpqHRZoxmFVKUjxkjPZmJEjwxaM
[8:48:28 PM] Karan: Mhm and what payment methods did you say
[8:48:29 PM] Karan: you can accept?
[8:48:42 PM] Jibrael: anything except paypal
[8:48:49 PM] Jibrael: western union.
[8:48:52 PM] Jibrael: money gram
[8:48:57 PM] Jibrael: deposit into my bank account
[8:49:30 PM] Jibrael: i will go on webcam with you so you can see my face, and i will give you a copy of my license
[8:49:37 PM] Jibrael: and anything else you want to feel secure
[8:49:45 PM] Jibrael: i am an honest person making an honest living
[8:49:49 PM] Jibrael: im also in law school
[8:49:53 PM] Jibrael: and i can prove that
[8:49:55 PM] Karan: Uhm Okay well i can go first under 1 condition tho.
[8:50:09 PM] Karan: I only have one real condition tbh
[8:50:20 PM] Karan: Cause lately i've been scammed too many times by people who just show me fake wallets
[8:50:29 PM] Karan: so i basically want to make sure the wallets yours with tv if thats okay?
[8:50:35 PM] Jibrael: i can sign the wallet
[8:50:43 PM] Karan: that blockchain
[8:50:46 PM] Karan: on your computer wallet
[8:50:46 PM] Karan: yes?
[8:51:05 PM] Jibrael: what?
[8:51:12 PM] Karan: Like the Blockchain wallet is yours
[8:51:16 PM] Jibrael: yes
[8:51:16 PM] Karan: that you linked me to
[8:51:29 PM] Karan: okay and would it be okay if i asked you to verify it over teamviewer to make sure i can see you have the possesion
[8:51:39 PM] Jibrael: i can teansfer money from it to another wallet right now
[8:51:44 PM] Jibrael: so u can see its me controlling it
[8:52:03 PM] Karan: Yes but thats basically what i want to do, is teamviewer an issue in such way?
[8:53:16 PM] Jibrael: no teamviewer is not an issue but i dont know much about it. Im actually getting 5btc more in about an hour from my brother. I can show you that i control a wallet with 8.9 btc
[8:53:27 PM] Karan: I'm not interested
[8:53:30 PM] Karan: in such a large amount
[8:53:36 PM] Karan: and teamviewer just lets me view your screen to see the wallet
[8:53:38 PM] Karan: is yours.
[8:53:42 PM] Karan: If you can do that
[8:53:56 PM] Karan: we can get on with this trade now and i can pay with LTC/BOA transfer or even western union
[8:53:58 PM] Karan: or moneygram
[8:54:00 PM] Karan: i just need 3BTC atm
[8:55:55 PM] Karan: So what do you say?
[8:56:17 PM] Jibrael: actually I wouldnt mint LTC, i think they are going to go up
[8:56:25 PM] Jibrael: mind*
[8:56:48 PM] Karan: i can give you 93LTC
[8:56:50 PM] Jibrael: how many do you have
[8:56:51 PM] Karan: for 3BTC.
[8:56:51 PM] Jibrael: ?
[8:56:55 PM] Karan: i have 211LTC
[8:56:57 PM] Karan: more then enough.
[8:57:04 PM] Karan: Switching my investment.
[8:57:14 PM] Jibrael: hmm sounds appealing
[8:57:24 PM] Jibrael: if you were me would you cash out? or take the ltc?
[8:57:29 PM] Jibrael: honestly?
[8:57:31 PM] Karan: Honestly?
[8:57:36 PM] Karan: Yea aha
i would keep it in BTC
[8:57:39 PM] Karan: I mean
[8:57:39 PM] Karan: LTC
[8:57:45 PM] Karan: because ltc dropped recently
[8:57:52 PM] Karan: and its going up in a peak of about 4% per day
[8:58:05 PM] Karan: i think it will be at about 40 in approxmiately 8 days
[8:58:12 PM] Karan: but BTC i need really badly atm for a transaction.
[8:58:26 PM] Jibrael: how do i use tram viewer?
[8:58:32 PM] Karan: team *
[8:58:36 PM] Karan: and uhm did you download it?
[8:58:49 PM] Jibrael: im about to
[8:59:03 PM] Karan: Okay perfect. so once its open it will give you a connection id and pass for example
[8:59:10 PM] Karan: 598 251 352 and a password like 8475
[8:59:19 PM] Karan: Once you give me that i can connect to you and view your screen
[8:59:22 PM] Karan: btw is LTC okay?
[8:59:22 PM] Karan: to pay you?
[8:59:32 PM] Jibrael: yes.
[8:59:33 PM] Karan: i can do 93LTC
[8:59:47 PM] Karan: okay perfect and i dont mind paying first as long as i can have a recording of the whole trade
[8:59:48 PM] Karan: over teamviewer.
[9:00:23 PM] Karan: Is that fair?
[9:00:33 PM] Jibrael: Send me ltc for 1 btc worth, and then I will go on team viewer so you can see my account for yourself
[9:00:38 PM] Jibrael: we have to compromise
[9:00:46 PM] Karan: No i'm sorry then i will not go first
[9:00:47 PM] Jibrael: u said u would send first in your message
[9:00:49 PM] Karan: We can use an Escrow.
[9:00:52 PM] Karan: yes
[9:00:54 PM] Karan: i will send first
[9:00:55 PM] Karan: but like i said
[9:01:00 PM] Karan: i want some safety and security
[9:01:02 PM] Karan: thats why i'm saying
[9:01:06 PM] Karan: let me on teamviewer to start recording
[9:01:10 PM] Jibrael: I have no problem with escrow, look at my past trasactions
[9:01:16 PM] Karan: that way if you were to scam or anything went wrong i would have a video of it
[9:01:28 PM] Karan: i dont see what's wrong with teamviewer its simply to let me view and i dont see why a deposit is nessacary
[9:01:29 PM] Karan: for that.
[9:01:51 PM] Jibrael: i just dont want to go through all this for nothing lol im kinda busy
[9:02:40 PM] Jibrael: if you want, send me 10 ltc and then ill do this whole teamviewer mess
[9:02:49 PM] Jibrael: so i know u are not pulling my leg
[9:02:58 PM] Jibrael: you sell fireworks or something?
[9:03:04 PM] Jibrael: i see your picture
[9:03:05 PM] Karan: Yes i have a fireworks shop
[9:03:05 PM] Karan: yes.
[9:03:21 PM] Karan: And no worries then i'll have to pass i'm not doing any sort of 200$ deposit without seeing that the
[9:03:24 PM] Karan: bitcoins are yours
[9:03:26 PM] Karan: teamviewer is not a mess
[9:03:30 PM] Karan: its an extra 30 seconds
[9:03:30 PM] Jibrael: are you sure you dont want 5btc? im getting 2 moire like NOW
[9:03:31 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:03:32 PM] Karan: if thats a problem
[9:03:34 PM] Karan: thanks for your time.
[9:03:41 PM] Jibrael: ok no problem
[9:03:49 PM] Jibrael: im busy im sorry
[9:03:50 PM] Karan: If you're really going to take a step like that i dont see how teamviewer is hard at all ...
[9:03:53 PM] Jibrael: maybe later
[9:03:54 PM] Karan: it takes 30 seconds extra...
[9:04:05 PM] Karan: you cant be that busy 30 seconds is like typing
[9:04:07 PM] Karan: one message on skype
[9:04:17 PM] Karan: and i dont see why you cant do it either. Unless you had something to hide which you shouldnt
[9:05:02 PM] Karan: and why would i be "pulling your leg" that makes no such sense.
[9:08:37 PM] Karan: Please do respond i see you typing then deleting.
[9:10:46 PM] Jibrael: im just not comfortable with the fact that you said you would send first in the message and now you want me to do this team viewer garbage. Lets do a small transaction where you send first, and then we can trust eachother (and i know you actually have money) and then ILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. I am willing to meet your condition, but you have to meet mine too. If not, thanks, but no thanks, its not worth the risk
[9:11:38 PM] Jibrael: let me know, my kids want to go out for ice cream before i have to get them into bed. they have school tommorow
[9:12:17 PM] Jibrael: I have twins. I have enough troubles
[9:12:21 PM] Jibrael:
[9:12:45 PM] Karan: Okay here you're not understanding anything i'm saying i believe. I'm paying first, i'm buying 3 BTC , I'm requesting to record with teamviewer (it is no garbage thing as such) it takes about 2 mintues at slow internet to download.
Soon as i see the bit coin is in your possession we can get this trade done within 5 minutes
[9:12:52 PM] Karan: its a 7 minute trade and has safety for me and for you
[9:12:55 PM] Karan: i can provide details of my license
[9:13:01 PM] Karan: and phonenumber if requeste.d
[9:13:33 PM] Karan: And lol twins are cute imo
[9:13:47 PM] Jibrael: ill pass, thanks . Ill try to sell them on localbit coins or something
[9:13:55 PM] Karan: I dont see what the hassle of teamviewer is
[9:13:57 PM] Karan: gosh...
[9:13:57 PM] Jibrael: good night
[9:14:00 PM] Karan: good night take care.
[9:16:43 PM] Karan: if you still do not decide to trade i can leave you trust if requested you seem fair. but please take into account where i'm coming from
[9:30:20 PM] Jibrael: i got this thing running
[9:30:25 PM] Jibrael: i think
[9:31:15 PM] Jibrael: how many ltc will you send me before i let you use team viewer on my computer to verify my account. I really want to make this trade.
[9:31:48 PM] Jibrael: send me something of value so that i know we mean business
[9:32:23 PM] Karan: we do mean buisness. and teamviewer is nothing extra its just a part of the trade. i'm not going to send money without proof of the account i'm very sorry but soon as i do see it we can get this show on the road
[9:32:26 PM] Karan: with 30LTC at a time
[9:33:15 PM] Jibrael: can you go on webcam with me and show me your id? i will too
[9:34:07 PM] Karan: my id on webcam ermmmm my labtops in use i can upload a picture and send that to you if you like ? i'm on my pc atm
[9:34:14 PM] Karan: Mom
[9:34:18 PM] Karan: is actually use my labtop.
[9:34:30 PM] Jibrael: mannn you suck
[9:34:31 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:34:33 PM] Karan: ?
[9:34:42 PM] Jibrael: you cant do anthing i want
[9:34:48 PM] Jibrael: to gain trust
[9:35:01 PM] Karan: ermmmm
[9:35:10 PM] Karan: how abouttttttt i can give you my real profile
[9:35:12 PM] Karan: on facebook
[9:35:13 PM] Karan: idk :O
[9:35:23 PM] Karan: i dont see
[9:35:27 PM] Karan: why teamviewer requires
[9:35:36 PM] Karan: any sort of trust its to view your screen like idk whats trust required
[9:35:57 PM] Jibrael: just send me 1 ltc. thats only 20$. If you cant do that, there is something wrong
[9:35:57 PM] Karan: you know what im saying
[9:36:14 PM] Karan: But why are you so desperate for me to send you LTC thats my question.
[9:36:19 PM] Karan: i dont see why ....
[9:36:29 PM] Karan: i'm sorry i'll pass on this trade now its just sketchy
[9:36:30 PM] Jibrael: because i want to see if you actually have ANYTHING
[9:36:51 PM] Karan: would you
[9:36:53 PM] Karan: like to view my screen
[9:36:54 PM] Karan: and see?
[9:37:13 PM] Jibrael: ok send me .1 ltc. thats 2$
[9:37:20 PM] Jibrael: if you cant risk 2$
[9:37:21 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:37:24 PM] Karan: okay
[9:37:40 PM] Karan: but what will this prove i'll shwo you my balance
[9:37:43 PM] Karan: if thats what you want
[9:37:47 PM] Jibrael: YES
[9:37:50 PM] Jibrael: THATS ALL I WANT
[9:37:53 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:38:01 PM] Karan: Oh okay
[9:38:05 PM] Karan: here can you view my screen?
[9:38:18 PM] *** Missed call from Karan. ***
[9:38:22 PM] Karan: connect to me
[9:38:25 PM] Karan: i'll show you my balance
[9:38:28 PM] Jibrael: no send it to my ltc address
[9:38:33 PM] Jibrael: .1 ltc
[9:38:41 PM] Jibrael: $2
[9:38:52 PM] Jibrael: or $2.2o actually
[9:38:58 PM] Karan: 2.2?
[9:39:07 PM] Jibrael: it equals 2.20$ right now
[9:39:10 PM] Jibrael: .1 ltc
[9:39:39 PM] Karan: http://gyazo.com/c49369abbc076931926091a5b400dbe2
[9:39:46 PM] Karan: 523 248 670
[9:39:49 PM] Karan: connect to me and see
[9:40:01 PM] Karan: 7993
[9:40:14 PM] Karan: i'm sending you proof
[9:40:14 PM] Karan: okay
[9:40:16 PM] Karan: you wanna webcam
[9:40:17 PM] Karan: and see my id
[9:40:18 PM] Jibrael: wow are you serious? we are about to do a 3000$ transaction. And im asking for $2
[9:40:19 PM] Karan: okay sure one moment
[9:40:23 PM] Karan: I'll get a webcam.
[9:40:25 PM] Jibrael: No thanks, this seems shady
[9:40:26 PM] Karan: no thats not my point
[9:40:30 PM] Karan: this isn't shady at all man
[9:40:33 PM] Karan: i'm confused....
[9:40:36 PM] Karan: I'm showing you my balance
[9:40:40 PM] Karan: but you request me to send it
[9:40:45 PM] Karan: that makes no FUCKING SENSE!
[9:40:53 PM] Karan: like this doesnt make any sense besides you're trying to scam
[9:40:57 PM] Karan: i'm giving you option
[9:40:59 PM] Karan: 3 different ones
[9:41:02 PM] Karan: i sent you a screenie
[9:41:09 PM] Karan: i'll show you my id on webcam
[9:41:12 PM] Jibrael: send .05 ltc
[9:41:13 PM] Karan: and i'll let you connect to me
[9:41:14 PM] Jibrael: 1$
[9:41:14 PM] Karan: and view
[9:41:15 PM] Karan: okay
[9:41:15 PM] Karan: sure
[9:41:16 PM] Jibrael: LOL
[9:41:23 PM] Karan: what...
[9:41:33 PM] Karan: you're being so abrupt i dont see what 1$
[9:41:33 PM] Karan: will do
[9:41:34 PM] Jibrael: YOU CANT EVEN SEND ME A DOLLAR
[9:41:36 PM] Jibrael: BYE
[9:41:37 PM] Karan: i said
[9:41:37 PM] Karan: okay sure
[9:41:38 PM] Karan: wtf?
[9:41:45 PM] Karan: [9:40 PM] Karan:
<<< okay
sure
[9:41:54 PM] Karan: lol ?
[9:41:59 PM] Karan: you're sucha kid. you cannot be a father
[9:42:29 PM] Karan: want to respond nwo?
[9:42:32 PM] Karan: now *
[9:42:35 PM] Jibrael: excuse me?
[9:42:54 PM] Karan: What do you mean excuse me you're acting like a kid i'd scrub up 1$ LTC lol if i wanted to thats not a big deal
[9:43:06 PM] Karan: 2$ isnt either
[9:43:11 PM] Karan: you're wasting this time doing this
[9:43:15 PM] Karan: while we could've done our trade
[9:43:16 PM] Karan: by now
[9:43:39 PM] Jibrael: My friend. You want to do a transaction for almost 3k$ and you cant even prove that you control $2 in ltc
[9:43:50 PM] Karan: I've given yuo the option
[9:43:51 PM] Karan: to view my screen
[9:43:53 PM] Karan: whats so hard
[9:43:54 PM] Karan: about picking
[9:43:55 PM] Karan: up the call
[9:43:56 PM] Karan: ?>
[9:43:58 PM] Karan: pick up the call
[9:43:58 PM] Karan: pls
[9:43:58 PM] Jibrael: I dont click links
[9:44:01 PM] Jibrael: sorry
[9:44:02 PM] Karan: pick up this call
[9:44:02 PM] Karan: ?
[9:44:05 PM] Karan: I'm not going to talk
[9:44:06 PM] Karan: just pick up
[9:44:18 PM] Karan: dude why we're doing a 3k$ trade
[9:44:20 PM] Karan: and you cant pick up
[9:44:21 PM] Karan: a skype call?
[9:44:42 PM] Jibrael: LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe send $2 here if you are for real. If not please go away
[9:44:45 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[9:44:58 PM] Karan: k bye you're a waste of time if you were really busy you wouldnt waste time for 2$
[9:45:09 PM] Karan: If i'm willing
[9:45:11 PM] Karan: to show you screen proof
[9:45:11 PM] Jibrael: im wasting my time to sell $2500
[9:45:13 PM] Karan: that i'm simply
[9:45:15 PM] Karan: asking you
[9:45:20 PM] Karan: you won't pick up the god damn
[9:45:21 PM] Karan: call
[9:45:23 PM] Jibrael: not 2$ you ant even proof that you have 2$
[9:45:23 PM] Karan: so i can show you
[9:45:25 PM] Karan: my screen/
[9:45:31 PM] Karan: I'm about to prove it
[9:45:37 PM] Jibrael: send it and prove it
[9:45:37 PM] Karan: you're definately not older then 13 years old im sorry
[9:45:39 PM] Karan: listen to yourself
[9:45:43 PM] Karan: send me 20$ in BTC and i will
[9:45:45 PM] Karan: how's that sound
[9:45:48 PM] Karan: stupid like your request
[9:45:49 PM] Karan: right?
[9:45:50 PM] Karan: thought so.
[9:45:55 PM] Jibrael: send me 50 cents
[9:45:58 PM] Karan: lol
[9:46:00 PM] Jibrael: you dont even have that i bet
[9:46:00 PM] Karan: give me your adress
[9:46:05 PM] Karan: you're full of yourself
[9:46:07 PM] Jibrael: LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[9:46:15 PM] Karan: no wait you dont even want to trade do you
[9:46:35 PM] Jibrael: if you show me that you control an account with suffienct btc i will trade
[9:46:42 PM] Jibrael: i mean ltc
[9:47:29 PM] Karan: okay i'll send 50cents lol.
My question is tho i'm asking you to pick up a skype call and you're denying it and not able to show me id or anything
[9:47:31 PM] Karan: why is that?
[9:48:22 PM] Jibrael: Excuse me. How did I start this conversation? By offering you MY id. Do you recall?
[9:48:36 PM] Karan: uhm no? But i offering you mine right now i believe
[9:48:45 PM] Karan: oh you're right
[9:48:46 PM] Karan: you did.
[9:48:51 PM] Karan: Okay we got off on the wrong foot you know what
[9:48:54 PM] Karan: lets use an escrow
[9:48:56 PM] Karan: how's that sound?
[9:49:10 PM] Karan: Never had an arguement over teamviewer
[9:49:12 PM] Karan: and i've been
[9:49:15 PM] Jibrael: I WOULD LOVE TO USE ESCROW
[9:49:18 PM] Karan: trying to show you my balance physically
[9:49:20 PM] Karan: for like 15 minutes
[9:49:23 PM] Karan: and you wont pick up a skype call
[9:49:24 PM] Karan: x.x
[9:49:28 PM] Jibrael: i have no problem with teamviewer
[9:49:35 PM] Karan: but please
[9:49:37 PM] Karan: one last request
[9:49:37 PM] Karan: thats it.
[9:49:39 PM] Karan: i promise
[9:49:43 PM] Karan: pick up this call so i can show you one thing
[9:49:44 PM] Karan: thats it.
[9:49:48 PM] Karan: doint talk
[9:49:50 PM] Karan: dont show your face
[9:49:53 PM] Karan: dont do nothing
[9:49:53 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[9:49:54 PM] Karan: but look
[9:49:55 PM] Karan: oh god...
[9:49:59 PM] Jibrael: send 1$ here
[9:50:04 PM] Jibrael: to the adress
[9:50:14 PM] Karan: send me 1$ in btc here to this adress wanna make sure the wallet you linked me to
[9:50:15 PM] Karan: is yours
[9:50:16 PM] Jibrael: i cant beleive you cant risk 1$
[9:50:23 PM] Karan: look at btc-e's
[9:50:33 PM] Karan: fees
[9:50:35 PM] Karan: for withdrawl
[9:50:37 PM] Karan: pls do.
[9:50:45 PM] Karan: thats what i want to show you
[9:50:46 PM] Karan: plus my balance
[9:50:50 PM] Karan: and you cant pick up my skype call
[9:50:56 PM] Karan: like i dont see what you're up to man
[9:50:57 PM] Karan: a skype call
[9:50:59 PM] Karan: what am i gonna do
[9:51:01 PM] Karan: break into your hosue
[9:51:04 PM] Karan: if you pick up a skype call
[9:51:05 PM] Jibrael: Karan, can you send a dollar or not?
[9:51:15 PM] Jibrael: its a yes or no question
[9:51:17 PM] Karan: LOOK AT BTC-E'S FEES OMFG!
[9:51:19 PM] Karan: yes i can
[9:51:24 PM] Karan: but it'll be removed with a 5$ fees
[9:51:27 PM] Karan: sure tho you'll cover the fees
[9:51:28 PM] Karan: wont you?
[9:51:38 PM] Jibrael: you have my word i will cover the fee
[9:52:11 PM] Karan: kk sending it
[9:54:05 PM] Karan: ToLongAgo (LN342vvenRcXN4yHnS5GhWMAhuE1d1Dyvs), Your payment of 0.21028725LTC has been transferred to LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe. Please go to your email for confirmation.
[9:54:11 PM] Karan: ignore my address.
[9:54:16 PM] Karan: Oh i have to confirm it one sec
[9:54:28 PM] Karan: my LTC is on btc-e
[9:54:58 PM] Karan: Okay i confirmed the payment too and i got confirmation email
[9:55:03 PM] Karan: i just lost 5$ as a fees payment only
[9:55:04 PM] Karan: ...
[9:55:14 PM] Karan: our trade was smaller then the fees they took
[9:55:15 PM] Jibrael: i will give you 5$ lol
[9:55:23 PM] Karan: okay i sent the payment...
[9:55:37 PM] Karan: 5$ is 30 minutes of work... its not a joke to me
[9:55:37 PM] Jibrael: i dont see it
[9:55:50 PM] Karan: it's been sent....
[9:55:54 PM] Karan: i even have confirmation email
[9:56:51 PM] Karan: definately was sent i got the confirmation etc. and instead of 1$ they removed 5$.
[9:57:43 PM] Karan: Successful authorization.
Login: ToLongago
IP:(crossing this out)
Date and time: 30.29.13 18:56
i removed my ip adress
[9:58:08 PM] Karan: It's been sent man please dont be low enough to leave now....
[9:58:33 PM] Jibrael: let me see
[9:59:01 PM] Jibrael: look at the block chain
[9:59:05 PM] Jibrael: i didnt get anthing
[9:59:07 PM] Jibrael: seriously
[9:59:21 PM] Karan: dude seriously man what the hell its 5$
[9:59:27 PM] Karan: who scamms five dollars... i have all proof
[9:59:28 PM] Karan: and everything
[9:59:31 PM] Karan: seirously dude?
[9:59:39 PM] Karan: i got the email from btc and i got proof of my balance...
[9:59:46 PM] Karan: i can show you both the email
[9:59:48 PM] Karan: and the balance
[10:00:49 PM] Karan: 211.07364537 is remaining now .... from 211.28393262 like the picture i sent you before...
[10:01:16 PM] Jibrael: what adress did you send it to
[10:01:17 PM] Jibrael: ?
[10:01:24 PM] Karan: [9:53 PM] Karan:
<<< ToLongAgo (LN342vvenRcXN4yHnS5GhWMAhuE1d1Dyvs), Your payment of 0.21028725LTC has been transferred to LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe. Please go to your email for confirmation
[10:01:28 PM] Karan: [10:01 PM] Karan:
<<< LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[10:01:29 PM] Karan: that one
[10:01:47 PM] Karan: and i got the confirmation email
[10:01:54 PM] Jibrael: http://block-explorer.com/address/LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[10:01:58 PM] Jibrael: look for yourself
[10:01:59 PM] Karan: whats that?
[10:02:13 PM] Jibrael: it shows that the adress hasnt recieved anything
[10:02:14 PM] Karan: idk... maybe the fees? i dont fking know.. i sent the money
[10:02:16 PM] Karan: and i got
[10:02:19 PM] Karan: 100% evidence
[10:02:20 PM] Karan: of it too
[10:02:21 PM] Karan: being sent
[10:02:49 PM] Karan: look for gods sakes...
[10:03:23 PM] Karan: i'm going to show you my screen
[10:03:24 PM] Karan: take a look
[10:03:24 PM] Karan: its been
[10:03:26 PM] Karan: sent
[10:03:29 PM] Karan: verifcation email
[10:03:30 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[10:03:49 PM] Karan: okay
[10:03:53 PM] Karan: is this some sick joke over 5$?
[10:04:59 PM] Karan: K i'm filing a report on you. i have all the evidence backing it up as well i'm sorry i wanted to trade i knew if i sent money
[10:05:02 PM] Karan: you werent going to go through
[10:05:23 PM] Jibrael: evidence? the address clearly shows that you didnt send any LTC
[10:05:33 PM] Karan: I have the evidence im trying to shwo you
[10:05:35 PM] Karan: but you wont pick up
[10:05:37 PM] Karan: the fking skype call
[10:05:39 PM] Karan: for me to screen share.
[10:05:44 PM] Karan: And also maybe the fees i told you about
[10:05:45 PM] Jibrael: look at the block chain
[10:05:50 PM] Karan: For what!?
i dont care if you got the money its out of my balance and i sent it to yours and i have confirmation emails of the money being sent
[10:06:27 PM] Jibrael: did you send it from btc-e?
[10:06:29 PM] Karan: yes...
[10:06:42 PM] Jibrael: i think it takes a little time for them to release it
[10:06:44 PM] Jibrael: relax
[10:06:50 PM] Jibrael: im not going anywhere
[10:06:53 PM] Karan: no i'm not waiting i have to go the gym and then i have work again tomorrow
[10:06:54 PM] Karan: i do ...
[10:07:08 PM] Karan: I'm sorry but its been out of my wallet it never takes time for a transaction to go through
[10:07:12 PM] Karan: can we start our transaction now ?
[10:07:32 PM] Jibrael: just give it 2 more minutes
[10:07:55 PM] Karan: okay i'm going to get changed until and even tho 5$ isn't much its something that i'm not going to just let pass through.
[10:08:09 PM] Jibrael: you arnt losing anything
[10:08:19 PM] Jibrael: i know that btc e sometimes takes a little time
[10:09:08 PM] Jibrael: So how does this teamviewer thing work? Do you like take control of my pc?
Karan
[10:11:10 PM] Karan: no? not unless you bought the full version you can only view it.
[10:11:17 PM] Karan: and okay i know it doesnt
[10:11:20 PM] Karan: take this long
[10:11:45 PM] Jibrael: So you arnt a scammer right?
[10:11:49 PM] Karan: okay man so whats the plan now i got to go gym to train i have a class.
[10:11:53 PM] Karan: no im not a scammer...
[10:12:18 PM] Jibrael: do you think if anyone read this conversations, they would think you are trying to scam me?
[10:12:23 PM] Karan: no....
[10:12:26 PM] Karan: I've done nothing
[10:12:27 PM] Karan: but sent you money
[10:13:08 PM] Jibrael: yea its going to charity. I havent gotten anything by the way. HOW CAN YOU STEAL FROM PEOPLE? LET ALONE A PERSON THAT SAYS HES IN SCHOOL AND HAS TWINS
[10:13:15 PM] Karan: what...
[10:13:17 PM] Karan: how am i stealing
[10:13:20 PM] Karan: i have proof that i sent you money
[10:14:00 PM] Jibrael: OK prove it on the forum. Ill send you a link where you can do that
Hope you guys enjoy BTW, anyone know any charity that accept LTC? If i ever get the coin that he claims he sent, ill donate it. (btw, I don't have kids lol, but i am in law school and everything I told him before he mentioned teamviewer is true)[8:44:30 PM] *** Karan has shared contact details with Jibrael. ***
[8:44:39 PM] Karan: Hi
[8:44:51 PM] Jibrael: hey how's it going?
[8:44:54 PM] Karan: good how are you
[8:45:20 PM] Jibrael: good.
[8:45:36 PM] Karan: you're selling BTC correcT?
[8:45:40 PM] Karan: is this miamisales
[8:45:42 PM] Karan: bitcoinmianmi
[8:45:43 PM] Karan: or w.e.
[8:45:44 PM] Jibrael: yes
[8:46:28 PM] Karan: How much bitcoin remaining?
[8:47:55 PM] Jibrael: 3.09btc
[8:47:58 PM] Jibrael: https://blockchain.info/address/1JYuH5uMpqHRZoxmFVKUjxkjPZmJEjwxaM
[8:48:28 PM] Karan: Mhm and what payment methods did you say
[8:48:29 PM] Karan: you can accept?
[8:48:42 PM] Jibrael: anything except paypal
[8:48:49 PM] Jibrael: western union.
[8:48:52 PM] Jibrael: money gram
[8:48:57 PM] Jibrael: deposit into my bank account
[8:49:30 PM] Jibrael: i will go on webcam with you so you can see my face, and i will give you a copy of my license
[8:49:37 PM] Jibrael: and anything else you want to feel secure
[8:49:45 PM] Jibrael: i am an honest person making an honest living
[8:49:49 PM] Jibrael: im also in law school
[8:49:53 PM] Jibrael: and i can prove that
[8:49:55 PM] Karan: Uhm Okay well i can go first under 1 condition tho.
[8:50:09 PM] Karan: I only have one real condition tbh
[8:50:20 PM] Karan: Cause lately i've been scammed too many times by people who just show me fake wallets
[8:50:29 PM] Karan: so i basically want to make sure the wallets yours with tv if thats okay?
[8:50:35 PM] Jibrael: i can sign the wallet
[8:50:43 PM] Karan: that blockchain
[8:50:46 PM] Karan: on your computer wallet
[8:50:46 PM] Karan: yes?
[8:51:05 PM] Jibrael: what?
[8:51:12 PM] Karan: Like the Blockchain wallet is yours
[8:51:16 PM] Jibrael: yes
[8:51:16 PM] Karan: that you linked me to
[8:51:29 PM] Karan: okay and would it be okay if i asked you to verify it over teamviewer to make sure i can see you have the possesion
[8:51:39 PM] Jibrael: i can teansfer money from it to another wallet right now
[8:51:44 PM] Jibrael: so u can see its me controlling it
[8:52:03 PM] Karan: Yes but thats basically what i want to do, is teamviewer an issue in such way?
[8:53:16 PM] Jibrael: no teamviewer is not an issue but i dont know much about it. Im actually getting 5btc more in about an hour from my brother. I can show you that i control a wallet with 8.9 btc
[8:53:27 PM] Karan: I'm not interested
[8:53:30 PM] Karan: in such a large amount
[8:53:36 PM] Karan: and teamviewer just lets me view your screen to see the wallet
[8:53:38 PM] Karan: is yours.
[8:53:42 PM] Karan: If you can do that
[8:53:56 PM] Karan: we can get on with this trade now and i can pay with LTC/BOA transfer or even western union
[8:53:58 PM] Karan: or moneygram
[8:54:00 PM] Karan: i just need 3BTC atm
[8:55:55 PM] Karan: So what do you say?
[8:56:17 PM] Jibrael: actually I wouldnt mint LTC, i think they are going to go up
[8:56:25 PM] Jibrael: mind*
[8:56:48 PM] Karan: i can give you 93LTC
[8:56:50 PM] Jibrael: how many do you have
[8:56:51 PM] Karan: for 3BTC.
[8:56:51 PM] Jibrael: ?
[8:56:55 PM] Karan: i have 211LTC
[8:56:57 PM] Karan: more then enough.
[8:57:04 PM] Karan: Switching my investment.
[8:57:14 PM] Jibrael: hmm sounds appealing
[8:57:24 PM] Jibrael: if you were me would you cash out? or take the ltc?
[8:57:29 PM] Jibrael: honestly?
[8:57:31 PM] Karan: Honestly?
[8:57:36 PM] Karan: Yea aha
i would keep it in BTC[8:57:39 PM] Karan: I mean
[8:57:39 PM] Karan: LTC
[8:57:45 PM] Karan: because ltc dropped recently
[8:57:52 PM] Karan: and its going up in a peak of about 4% per day
[8:58:05 PM] Karan: i think it will be at about 40 in approxmiately 8 days
[8:58:12 PM] Karan: but BTC i need really badly atm for a transaction.
[8:58:26 PM] Jibrael: how do i use tram viewer?
[8:58:32 PM] Karan: team *
[8:58:36 PM] Karan: and uhm did you download it?
[8:58:49 PM] Jibrael: im about to
[8:59:03 PM] Karan: Okay perfect. so once its open it will give you a connection id and pass for example
[8:59:10 PM] Karan: 598 251 352 and a password like 8475
[8:59:19 PM] Karan: Once you give me that i can connect to you and view your screen
[8:59:22 PM] Karan: btw is LTC okay?
[8:59:22 PM] Karan: to pay you?
[8:59:32 PM] Jibrael: yes.
[8:59:33 PM] Karan: i can do 93LTC
[8:59:47 PM] Karan: okay perfect and i dont mind paying first as long as i can have a recording of the whole trade
[8:59:48 PM] Karan: over teamviewer.
[9:00:23 PM] Karan: Is that fair?
[9:00:33 PM] Jibrael: Send me ltc for 1 btc worth, and then I will go on team viewer so you can see my account for yourself
[9:00:38 PM] Jibrael: we have to compromise
[9:00:46 PM] Karan: No i'm sorry then i will not go first
[9:00:47 PM] Jibrael: u said u would send first in your message
[9:00:49 PM] Karan: We can use an Escrow.
[9:00:52 PM] Karan: yes
[9:00:54 PM] Karan: i will send first
[9:00:55 PM] Karan: but like i said
[9:01:00 PM] Karan: i want some safety and security
[9:01:02 PM] Karan: thats why i'm saying
[9:01:06 PM] Karan: let me on teamviewer to start recording
[9:01:10 PM] Jibrael: I have no problem with escrow, look at my past trasactions
[9:01:16 PM] Karan: that way if you were to scam or anything went wrong i would have a video of it
[9:01:28 PM] Karan: i dont see what's wrong with teamviewer its simply to let me view and i dont see why a deposit is nessacary
[9:01:29 PM] Karan: for that.
[9:01:51 PM] Jibrael: i just dont want to go through all this for nothing lol im kinda busy
[9:02:40 PM] Jibrael: if you want, send me 10 ltc and then ill do this whole teamviewer mess
[9:02:49 PM] Jibrael: so i know u are not pulling my leg
[9:02:58 PM] Jibrael: you sell fireworks or something?
[9:03:04 PM] Jibrael: i see your picture
[9:03:05 PM] Karan: Yes i have a fireworks shop
[9:03:05 PM] Karan: yes.
[9:03:21 PM] Karan: And no worries then i'll have to pass i'm not doing any sort of 200$ deposit without seeing that the
[9:03:24 PM] Karan: bitcoins are yours
[9:03:26 PM] Karan: teamviewer is not a mess
[9:03:30 PM] Karan: its an extra 30 seconds
[9:03:30 PM] Jibrael: are you sure you dont want 5btc? im getting 2 moire like NOW
[9:03:31 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:03:32 PM] Karan: if thats a problem
[9:03:34 PM] Karan: thanks for your time.
[9:03:41 PM] Jibrael: ok no problem
[9:03:49 PM] Jibrael: im busy im sorry
[9:03:50 PM] Karan: If you're really going to take a step like that i dont see how teamviewer is hard at all ...
[9:03:53 PM] Jibrael: maybe later
[9:03:54 PM] Karan: it takes 30 seconds extra...
[9:04:05 PM] Karan: you cant be that busy 30 seconds is like typing
[9:04:07 PM] Karan: one message on skype
[9:04:17 PM] Karan: and i dont see why you cant do it either. Unless you had something to hide which you shouldnt
[9:05:02 PM] Karan: and why would i be "pulling your leg" that makes no such sense.
[9:08:37 PM] Karan: Please do respond i see you typing then deleting.
[9:10:46 PM] Jibrael: im just not comfortable with the fact that you said you would send first in the message and now you want me to do this team viewer garbage. Lets do a small transaction where you send first, and then we can trust eachother (and i know you actually have money) and then ILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. I am willing to meet your condition, but you have to meet mine too. If not, thanks, but no thanks, its not worth the risk
[9:11:38 PM] Jibrael: let me know, my kids want to go out for ice cream before i have to get them into bed. they have school tommorow
[9:12:17 PM] Jibrael: I have twins. I have enough troubles
[9:12:21 PM] Jibrael:
[9:12:45 PM] Karan: Okay here you're not understanding anything i'm saying i believe. I'm paying first, i'm buying 3 BTC , I'm requesting to record with teamviewer (it is no garbage thing as such) it takes about 2 mintues at slow internet to download.
Soon as i see the bit coin is in your possession we can get this trade done within 5 minutes
[9:12:52 PM] Karan: its a 7 minute trade and has safety for me and for you
[9:12:55 PM] Karan: i can provide details of my license
[9:13:01 PM] Karan: and phonenumber if requeste.d
[9:13:33 PM] Karan: And lol twins are cute imo
[9:13:47 PM] Jibrael: ill pass, thanks . Ill try to sell them on localbit coins or something
[9:13:55 PM] Karan: I dont see what the hassle of teamviewer is
[9:13:57 PM] Karan: gosh...
[9:13:57 PM] Jibrael: good night
[9:14:00 PM] Karan: good night take care.
[9:16:43 PM] Karan: if you still do not decide to trade i can leave you trust if requested you seem fair. but please take into account where i'm coming from
[9:30:20 PM] Jibrael: i got this thing running
[9:30:25 PM] Jibrael: i think
[9:31:15 PM] Jibrael: how many ltc will you send me before i let you use team viewer on my computer to verify my account. I really want to make this trade.
[9:31:48 PM] Jibrael: send me something of value so that i know we mean business
[9:32:23 PM] Karan: we do mean buisness. and teamviewer is nothing extra its just a part of the trade. i'm not going to send money without proof of the account i'm very sorry but soon as i do see it we can get this show on the road
[9:32:26 PM] Karan: with 30LTC at a time
[9:33:15 PM] Jibrael: can you go on webcam with me and show me your id? i will too
[9:34:07 PM] Karan: my id on webcam ermmmm my labtops in use i can upload a picture and send that to you if you like ? i'm on my pc atm
[9:34:14 PM] Karan: Mom
[9:34:18 PM] Karan: is actually use my labtop.
[9:34:30 PM] Jibrael: mannn you suck
[9:34:31 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:34:33 PM] Karan: ?
[9:34:42 PM] Jibrael: you cant do anthing i want
[9:34:48 PM] Jibrael: to gain trust
[9:35:01 PM] Karan: ermmmm
[9:35:10 PM] Karan: how abouttttttt i can give you my real profile
[9:35:12 PM] Karan: on facebook
[9:35:13 PM] Karan: idk :O
[9:35:23 PM] Karan: i dont see
[9:35:27 PM] Karan: why teamviewer requires
[9:35:36 PM] Karan: any sort of trust its to view your screen like idk whats trust required
[9:35:57 PM] Jibrael: just send me 1 ltc. thats only 20$. If you cant do that, there is something wrong
[9:35:57 PM] Karan: you know what im saying
[9:36:14 PM] Karan: But why are you so desperate for me to send you LTC thats my question.
[9:36:19 PM] Karan: i dont see why ....
[9:36:29 PM] Karan: i'm sorry i'll pass on this trade now its just sketchy
[9:36:30 PM] Jibrael: because i want to see if you actually have ANYTHING
[9:36:51 PM] Karan: would you
[9:36:53 PM] Karan: like to view my screen
[9:36:54 PM] Karan: and see?
[9:37:13 PM] Jibrael: ok send me .1 ltc. thats 2$
[9:37:20 PM] Jibrael: if you cant risk 2$
[9:37:21 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:37:24 PM] Karan: okay
[9:37:40 PM] Karan: but what will this prove i'll shwo you my balance
[9:37:43 PM] Karan: if thats what you want
[9:37:47 PM] Jibrael: YES
[9:37:50 PM] Jibrael: THATS ALL I WANT
[9:37:53 PM] Jibrael: lol
[9:38:01 PM] Karan: Oh okay
[9:38:05 PM] Karan: here can you view my screen?
[9:38:18 PM] *** Missed call from Karan. ***
[9:38:22 PM] Karan: connect to me
[9:38:25 PM] Karan: i'll show you my balance
[9:38:28 PM] Jibrael: no send it to my ltc address
[9:38:33 PM] Jibrael: .1 ltc
[9:38:41 PM] Jibrael: $2
[9:38:52 PM] Jibrael: or $2.2o actually
[9:38:58 PM] Karan: 2.2?
[9:39:07 PM] Jibrael: it equals 2.20$ right now
[9:39:10 PM] Jibrael: .1 ltc
[9:39:39 PM] Karan: http://gyazo.com/c49369abbc076931926091a5b400dbe2
[9:39:46 PM] Karan: 523 248 670
[9:39:49 PM] Karan: connect to me and see
[9:40:01 PM] Karan: 7993
[9:40:14 PM] Karan: i'm sending you proof
[9:40:14 PM] Karan: okay
[9:40:16 PM] Karan: you wanna webcam
[9:40:17 PM] Karan: and see my id
[9:40:18 PM] Jibrael: wow are you serious? we are about to do a 3000$ transaction. And im asking for $2
[9:40:19 PM] Karan: okay sure one moment
[9:40:23 PM] Karan: I'll get a webcam.
[9:40:25 PM] Jibrael: No thanks, this seems shady
[9:40:26 PM] Karan: no thats not my point
[9:40:30 PM] Karan: this isn't shady at all man
[9:40:33 PM] Karan: i'm confused....
[9:40:36 PM] Karan: I'm showing you my balance
[9:40:40 PM] Karan: but you request me to send it
[9:40:45 PM] Karan: that makes no FUCKING SENSE!
[9:40:53 PM] Karan: like this doesnt make any sense besides you're trying to scam
[9:40:57 PM] Karan: i'm giving you option
[9:40:59 PM] Karan: 3 different ones
[9:41:02 PM] Karan: i sent you a screenie
[9:41:09 PM] Karan: i'll show you my id on webcam
[9:41:12 PM] Jibrael: send .05 ltc
[9:41:13 PM] Karan: and i'll let you connect to me
[9:41:14 PM] Jibrael: 1$
[9:41:14 PM] Karan: and view
[9:41:15 PM] Karan: okay
[9:41:15 PM] Karan: sure
[9:41:16 PM] Jibrael: LOL
[9:41:23 PM] Karan: what...
[9:41:33 PM] Karan: you're being so abrupt i dont see what 1$
[9:41:33 PM] Karan: will do
[9:41:34 PM] Jibrael: YOU CANT EVEN SEND ME A DOLLAR
[9:41:36 PM] Jibrael: BYE
[9:41:37 PM] Karan: i said
[9:41:37 PM] Karan: okay sure
[9:41:38 PM] Karan: wtf?
[9:41:45 PM] Karan: [9:40 PM] Karan:
<<< okay
sure
[9:41:54 PM] Karan: lol ?
[9:41:59 PM] Karan: you're sucha kid. you cannot be a father
[9:42:29 PM] Karan: want to respond nwo?
[9:42:32 PM] Karan: now *
[9:42:35 PM] Jibrael: excuse me?
[9:42:54 PM] Karan: What do you mean excuse me you're acting like a kid i'd scrub up 1$ LTC lol if i wanted to thats not a big deal
[9:43:06 PM] Karan: 2$ isnt either
[9:43:11 PM] Karan: you're wasting this time doing this
[9:43:15 PM] Karan: while we could've done our trade
[9:43:16 PM] Karan: by now
[9:43:39 PM] Jibrael: My friend. You want to do a transaction for almost 3k$ and you cant even prove that you control $2 in ltc
[9:43:50 PM] Karan: I've given yuo the option
[9:43:51 PM] Karan: to view my screen
[9:43:53 PM] Karan: whats so hard
[9:43:54 PM] Karan: about picking
[9:43:55 PM] Karan: up the call
[9:43:56 PM] Karan: ?>
[9:43:58 PM] Karan: pick up the call
[9:43:58 PM] Karan: pls
[9:43:58 PM] Jibrael: I dont click links
[9:44:01 PM] Jibrael: sorry
[9:44:02 PM] Karan: pick up this call
[9:44:02 PM] Karan: ?
[9:44:05 PM] Karan: I'm not going to talk
[9:44:06 PM] Karan: just pick up
[9:44:18 PM] Karan: dude why we're doing a 3k$ trade
[9:44:20 PM] Karan: and you cant pick up
[9:44:21 PM] Karan: a skype call?
[9:44:42 PM] Jibrael: LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe send $2 here if you are for real. If not please go away
[9:44:45 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[9:44:58 PM] Karan: k bye you're a waste of time if you were really busy you wouldnt waste time for 2$
[9:45:09 PM] Karan: If i'm willing
[9:45:11 PM] Karan: to show you screen proof
[9:45:11 PM] Jibrael: im wasting my time to sell $2500
[9:45:13 PM] Karan: that i'm simply
[9:45:15 PM] Karan: asking you
[9:45:20 PM] Karan: you won't pick up the god damn
[9:45:21 PM] Karan: call
[9:45:23 PM] Jibrael: not 2$ you ant even proof that you have 2$
[9:45:23 PM] Karan: so i can show you
[9:45:25 PM] Karan: my screen/
[9:45:31 PM] Karan: I'm about to prove it
[9:45:37 PM] Jibrael: send it and prove it
[9:45:37 PM] Karan: you're definately not older then 13 years old im sorry
[9:45:39 PM] Karan: listen to yourself
[9:45:43 PM] Karan: send me 20$ in BTC and i will
[9:45:45 PM] Karan: how's that sound
[9:45:48 PM] Karan: stupid like your request
[9:45:49 PM] Karan: right?
[9:45:50 PM] Karan: thought so.
[9:45:55 PM] Jibrael: send me 50 cents
[9:45:58 PM] Karan: lol
[9:46:00 PM] Jibrael: you dont even have that i bet
[9:46:00 PM] Karan: give me your adress
[9:46:05 PM] Karan: you're full of yourself
[9:46:07 PM] Jibrael: LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[9:46:15 PM] Karan: no wait you dont even want to trade do you
[9:46:35 PM] Jibrael: if you show me that you control an account with suffienct btc i will trade
[9:46:42 PM] Jibrael: i mean ltc
[9:47:29 PM] Karan: okay i'll send 50cents lol.
My question is tho i'm asking you to pick up a skype call and you're denying it and not able to show me id or anything
[9:47:31 PM] Karan: why is that?
[9:48:22 PM] Jibrael: Excuse me. How did I start this conversation? By offering you MY id. Do you recall?
[9:48:36 PM] Karan: uhm no? But i offering you mine right now i believe
[9:48:45 PM] Karan: oh you're right
[9:48:46 PM] Karan: you did.
[9:48:51 PM] Karan: Okay we got off on the wrong foot you know what
[9:48:54 PM] Karan: lets use an escrow
[9:48:56 PM] Karan: how's that sound?
[9:49:10 PM] Karan: Never had an arguement over teamviewer
[9:49:12 PM] Karan: and i've been
[9:49:15 PM] Jibrael: I WOULD LOVE TO USE ESCROW
[9:49:18 PM] Karan: trying to show you my balance physically
[9:49:20 PM] Karan: for like 15 minutes
[9:49:23 PM] Karan: and you wont pick up a skype call
[9:49:24 PM] Karan: x.x
[9:49:28 PM] Jibrael: i have no problem with teamviewer
[9:49:35 PM] Karan: but please
[9:49:37 PM] Karan: one last request
[9:49:37 PM] Karan: thats it.
[9:49:39 PM] Karan: i promise
[9:49:43 PM] Karan: pick up this call so i can show you one thing
[9:49:44 PM] Karan: thats it.
[9:49:48 PM] Karan: doint talk
[9:49:50 PM] Karan: dont show your face
[9:49:53 PM] Karan: dont do nothing
[9:49:53 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[9:49:54 PM] Karan: but look
[9:49:55 PM] Karan: oh god...
[9:49:59 PM] Jibrael: send 1$ here
[9:50:04 PM] Jibrael: to the adress
[9:50:14 PM] Karan: send me 1$ in btc here to this adress wanna make sure the wallet you linked me to
[9:50:15 PM] Karan: is yours
[9:50:16 PM] Jibrael: i cant beleive you cant risk 1$
[9:50:23 PM] Karan: look at btc-e's
[9:50:33 PM] Karan: fees
[9:50:35 PM] Karan: for withdrawl
[9:50:37 PM] Karan: pls do.
[9:50:45 PM] Karan: thats what i want to show you
[9:50:46 PM] Karan: plus my balance
[9:50:50 PM] Karan: and you cant pick up my skype call
[9:50:56 PM] Karan: like i dont see what you're up to man
[9:50:57 PM] Karan: a skype call
[9:50:59 PM] Karan: what am i gonna do
[9:51:01 PM] Karan: break into your hosue
[9:51:04 PM] Karan: if you pick up a skype call
[9:51:05 PM] Jibrael: Karan, can you send a dollar or not?
[9:51:15 PM] Jibrael: its a yes or no question
[9:51:17 PM] Karan: LOOK AT BTC-E'S FEES OMFG!
[9:51:19 PM] Karan: yes i can
[9:51:24 PM] Karan: but it'll be removed with a 5$ fees
[9:51:27 PM] Karan: sure tho you'll cover the fees
[9:51:28 PM] Karan: wont you?
[9:51:38 PM] Jibrael: you have my word i will cover the fee
[9:52:11 PM] Karan: kk sending it
[9:54:05 PM] Karan: ToLongAgo (LN342vvenRcXN4yHnS5GhWMAhuE1d1Dyvs), Your payment of 0.21028725LTC has been transferred to LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe. Please go to your email for confirmation.
[9:54:11 PM] Karan: ignore my address.
[9:54:16 PM] Karan: Oh i have to confirm it one sec
[9:54:28 PM] Karan: my LTC is on btc-e
[9:54:58 PM] Karan: Okay i confirmed the payment too and i got confirmation email
[9:55:03 PM] Karan: i just lost 5$ as a fees payment only
[9:55:04 PM] Karan: ...
[9:55:14 PM] Karan: our trade was smaller then the fees they took
[9:55:15 PM] Jibrael: i will give you 5$ lol
[9:55:23 PM] Karan: okay i sent the payment...
[9:55:37 PM] Karan: 5$ is 30 minutes of work... its not a joke to me
[9:55:37 PM] Jibrael: i dont see it
[9:55:50 PM] Karan: it's been sent....
[9:55:54 PM] Karan: i even have confirmation email
[9:56:51 PM] Karan: definately was sent i got the confirmation etc. and instead of 1$ they removed 5$.
[9:57:43 PM] Karan: Successful authorization.
Login: ToLongago
IP:(crossing this out)
Date and time: 30.29.13 18:56
i removed my ip adress
[9:58:08 PM] Karan: It's been sent man please dont be low enough to leave now....
[9:58:33 PM] Jibrael: let me see
[9:59:01 PM] Jibrael: look at the block chain
[9:59:05 PM] Jibrael: i didnt get anthing
[9:59:07 PM] Jibrael: seriously
[9:59:21 PM] Karan: dude seriously man what the hell its 5$
[9:59:27 PM] Karan: who scamms five dollars... i have all proof
[9:59:28 PM] Karan: and everything
[9:59:31 PM] Karan: seirously dude?
[9:59:39 PM] Karan: i got the email from btc and i got proof of my balance...
[9:59:46 PM] Karan: i can show you both the email
[9:59:48 PM] Karan: and the balance
[10:00:49 PM] Karan: 211.07364537 is remaining now .... from 211.28393262 like the picture i sent you before...
[10:01:16 PM] Jibrael: what adress did you send it to
[10:01:17 PM] Jibrael: ?
[10:01:24 PM] Karan: [9:53 PM] Karan:
<<< ToLongAgo (LN342vvenRcXN4yHnS5GhWMAhuE1d1Dyvs), Your payment of 0.21028725LTC has been transferred to LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe. Please go to your email for confirmation
[10:01:28 PM] Karan: [10:01 PM] Karan:
<<< LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[10:01:29 PM] Karan: that one
[10:01:47 PM] Karan: and i got the confirmation email
[10:01:54 PM] Jibrael: http://block-explorer.com/address/LMQGk7pavQNVBe4U5CUMyFbACXEiUX5qZe
[10:01:58 PM] Jibrael: look for yourself
[10:01:59 PM] Karan: whats that?
[10:02:13 PM] Jibrael: it shows that the adress hasnt recieved anything
[10:02:14 PM] Karan: idk... maybe the fees? i dont fking know.. i sent the money
[10:02:16 PM] Karan: and i got
[10:02:19 PM] Karan: 100% evidence
[10:02:20 PM] Karan: of it too
[10:02:21 PM] Karan: being sent
[10:02:49 PM] Karan: look for gods sakes...
[10:03:23 PM] Karan: i'm going to show you my screen
[10:03:24 PM] Karan: take a look
[10:03:24 PM] Karan: its been
[10:03:26 PM] Karan: sent
[10:03:29 PM] Karan: verifcation email
[10:03:30 PM] *** Call from Karan ***
[10:03:49 PM] Karan: okay
[10:03:53 PM] Karan: is this some sick joke over 5$?
[10:04:59 PM] Karan: K i'm filing a report on you. i have all the evidence backing it up as well i'm sorry i wanted to trade i knew if i sent money
[10:05:02 PM] Karan: you werent going to go through
[10:05:23 PM] Jibrael: evidence? the address clearly shows that you didnt send any LTC
[10:05:33 PM] Karan: I have the evidence im trying to shwo you
[10:05:35 PM] Karan: but you wont pick up
[10:05:37 PM] Karan: the fking skype call
[10:05:39 PM] Karan: for me to screen share.
[10:05:44 PM] Karan: And also maybe the fees i told you about
[10:05:45 PM] Jibrael: look at the block chain
[10:05:50 PM] Karan: For what!?
i dont care if you got the money its out of my balance and i sent it to yours and i have confirmation emails of the money being sent
[10:06:27 PM] Jibrael: did you send it from btc-e?
[10:06:29 PM] Karan: yes...
[10:06:42 PM] Jibrael: i think it takes a little time for them to release it
[10:06:44 PM] Jibrael: relax
[10:06:50 PM] Jibrael: im not going anywhere
[10:06:53 PM] Karan: no i'm not waiting i have to go the gym and then i have work again tomorrow
[10:06:54 PM] Karan: i do ...
[10:07:08 PM] Karan: I'm sorry but its been out of my wallet it never takes time for a transaction to go through
[10:07:12 PM] Karan: can we start our transaction now ?
[10:07:32 PM] Jibrael: just give it 2 more minutes
[10:07:55 PM] Karan: okay i'm going to get changed until and even tho 5$ isn't much its something that i'm not going to just let pass through.
[10:08:09 PM] Jibrael: you arnt losing anything
[10:08:19 PM] Jibrael: i know that btc e sometimes takes a little time
[10:09:08 PM] Jibrael: So how does this teamviewer thing work? Do you like take control of my pc?
Karan
[10:11:10 PM] Karan: no? not unless you bought the full version you can only view it.
[10:11:17 PM] Karan: and okay i know it doesnt
[10:11:20 PM] Karan: take this long
[10:11:45 PM] Jibrael: So you arnt a scammer right?
[10:11:49 PM] Karan: okay man so whats the plan now i got to go gym to train i have a class.
[10:11:53 PM] Karan: no im not a scammer...
[10:12:18 PM] Jibrael: do you think if anyone read this conversations, they would think you are trying to scam me?
[10:12:23 PM] Karan: no....
[10:12:26 PM] Karan: I've done nothing
[10:12:27 PM] Karan: but sent you money
[10:13:08 PM] Jibrael: yea its going to charity. I havent gotten anything by the way. HOW CAN YOU STEAL FROM PEOPLE? LET ALONE A PERSON THAT SAYS HES IN SCHOOL AND HAS TWINS
[10:13:15 PM] Karan: what...
[10:13:17 PM] Karan: how am i stealing
[10:13:20 PM] Karan: i have proof that i sent you money
[10:14:00 PM] Jibrael: OK prove it on the forum. Ill send you a link where you can do that
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