I just thought of the perfect Bitcoin scam

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Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 06:20:28 AM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 19, 2014, 04:32:19 AM

Wait, get back here, for I got here late for the party. I, too, have a scam in mind that would easily net ten grand per shot, and I'll sell it to you for only five grand, and if it doesn't work as outlined, then I'll double your money back.

The beauty of my scam is that it involves nothing technical, for only a bitcoin (even any alt would work) wallet address is needed. I'll give you a hint: It involves a service for hire, one that's not delivered after payment is paid, and the person paying for said service would be a foul to turn you in even if they knew who you are, which they wouldn't. Hint number two: A many persons going through a divorce may consider such a service, same true for somebody close to somebody who was done wrong by some other. No more hints, for I'm calling it a night because I'm dead tired.

A hitman for hire through Bitcoin? Only the very gullible would fall for such a thing, but then again the reason you get some many scam emails from Nigeria is that once in a million people there are some very gullible.

The very gullible, and the very desperate. A fake hitman (which actually was an undercover agent) was part of the reason why Silk Road's funder was arrested.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on October 19, 2014, 04:32:19 AM

Wait, get back here, for I got here late for the party. I, too, have a scam in mind that would easily net ten grand per shot, and I'll sell it to you for only five grand, and if it doesn't work as outlined, then I'll double your money back.

The beauty of my scam is that it involves nothing technical, for only a bitcoin (even any alt would work) wallet address is needed. I'll give you a hint: It involves a service for hire, one that's not delivered after payment is paid, and the person paying for said service would be a foul to turn you in even if they knew who you are, which they wouldn't. Hint number two: A many persons going through a divorce may consider such a service, same true for somebody close to somebody who was done wrong by some other. No more hints, for I'm calling it a night because I'm dead tired.

A hitman for hire through Bitcoin? Only the very gullible would fall for such a thing, but then again the reason you get some many scam emails from Nigeria is that once in a million people there are some very gullible.

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 03:25:19 AM

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 03:13:18 AM

Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 02:03:29 AM

Quote from: stevegreer on October 18, 2014, 02:55:29 PM

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

Maybe I'm a white hat scammer? Somebody who calls out potential scams so that you don't fall into them? :-)

I doubt it, I think your a pretend white hat scammer that wants attention to see if your scam is legit or not to persue the opportunity to scam people because you dont know the technology well enough to assess yourself... well you already got your answer

Dang it! I've been outed then... I'm outta here.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

Wait, get back here, for I got here late for the party. I, too, have a scam in mind that would easily net ten grand per shot, and I'll sell it to you for only five grand, and if it doesn't work as outlined, then I'll double your money back.

The beauty of my scam is that it involves nothing technical, for only a bitcoin (even any alt would work) wallet address is needed. I'll give you a hint: It involves a service for hire, one that's not delivered after payment is paid, and the person paying for said service would be a foul to turn you in even if they knew who you are, which they wouldn't. Hint number two: A many persons going through a divorce may consider such a service, same true for somebody close to somebody who was done wrong by some other. No more hints, for I'm calling it a night because I'm dead tired.

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 03:25:19 AM

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

Lol! OUCH!

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Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 03:22:52 AM

Quote from: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 03:13:18 AM

Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 02:03:29 AM

Quote from: stevegreer on October 18, 2014, 02:55:29 PM

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

Maybe I'm a white hat scammer? Somebody who calls out potential scams so that you don't fall into them? :-)

I doubt it, I think your a pretend white hat scammer that wants attention to see if your scam is legit or not to persue the opportunity to scam people because you dont know the technology well enough to assess yourself... well you already got your answer

Dang it! I've been outed then... I'm outta here.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 03:13:18 AM

Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 02:03:29 AM

Quote from: stevegreer on October 18, 2014, 02:55:29 PM

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

Maybe I'm a white hat scammer? Somebody who calls out potential scams so that you don't fall into them? :-)

I doubt it, I think your a pretend white hat scammer that wants attention to see if your scam is legit or not to persue the opportunity to scam people because you dont know the technology well enough to assess yourself... well you already got your answer

Dang it! I've been outed then... I'm outta here.

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Quote from: TonyT on October 19, 2014, 02:03:29 AM

Quote from: stevegreer on October 18, 2014, 02:55:29 PM

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

Maybe I'm a white hat scammer? Somebody who calls out potential scams so that you don't fall into them? :-)

I doubt it, I think your a pretend white hat scammer that wants attention to see if your scam is legit or not to persue the opportunity to scam people because you dont know the technology well enough to assess yourself... well you already got your answer

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Quote from: stevegreer on October 18, 2014, 02:55:29 PM

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

Maybe I'm a white hat scammer? Somebody who calls out potential scams so that you don't fall into them? :-)

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Truth be told, there is a sucker born every minute, as the old saying goes. So, there is no doubt that some poor idiot would fall for the scam. But I highly doubt enough people would fall for it as to make you bitcoin rich by any means. Your scam would probably last less than a day after its launch as long as there are people like Spoetnik around who will be real quick to call your scam out to the entire community.

The real question though, is why on earth would you even consider, jokingly or not, trying to do something that would scam people out of their money?

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Quote from: lynn_402 on October 17, 2014, 02:40:50 PM

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Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

Too late, some one take this idea and make a PRO version:

http://bitcoinvanitygen.com/

One of our bettors at Luckyb.it lost 4 bitcoins creating a custom addy with that service.

It's silly to trust a random website with that amount of money, only to get a stylish address...

True, the best way to get a custom addy is downloading the software and running from your own PC...

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 17, 2014, 11:26:23 AM

Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

Too late, some one take this idea and make a PRO version:

http://bitcoinvanitygen.com/

One of our bettors at Luckyb.it lost 4 bitcoins creating a custom addy with that service.

It's silly to trust a random website with that amount of money, only to get a stylish address...

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Quote from: TonyT on October 17, 2014, 11:33:28 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 17, 2014, 11:26:23 AM

Too late, some one take this idea and make a PRO version:

http://bitcoinvanitygen.com/

One of our bettors at Luckyb.it lost 4 bitcoins creating a custom addy with that service.

Yes, case in point...how do these "vanity addresses" work? Isn't this idea ripe for being scammed as I describe?

Ah yes, I found out, and indeed the generation of a public vanity address can lead to a scam of the kind I state: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/get-custom-bitcoin-address/

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 17, 2014, 11:26:23 AM

Too late, some one take this idea and make a PRO version:

http://bitcoinvanitygen.com/

One of our bettors at Luckyb.it lost 4 bitcoins creating a custom addy with that service.

Yes, case in point...how do these "vanity addresses" work? Isn't this idea ripe for being scammed as I describe?

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Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

Too late, some one take this idea and make a PRO version:

http://bitcoinvanitygen.com/

One of our bettors at Luckyb.it lost 4 bitcoins creating a custom addy with that service.

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Quit trying to scam and do something useful with your time.

I always had a theory that if you wanted to steal hack the government and the elites dont fuck around with the rest it will come back to bite you.. I question your motives and other decisions you will make however people can always change so here is your chance.

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 17, 2014, 11:10:07 AM

Some sites let you create addresses showing a pvt key input and hash160 I think its just to verify algorithms and for informational purposes only..

Maybe...that explains the link I cited...perhaps it was just a programmer's aid for coming up with legal Bitcoin addresses.

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I think you should read the spec.

You need to control your private key to access your coins.. if you give your private key to anyone they are gone.

Some sites let you create addresses showing a pvt key input and hash160 I think its just to verify algorithms and for informational purposes only..

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Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

Here's what you are missing. Some folks would call this a scam. But I call it Ponzicoin, not a scam at all.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9217031

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 16, 2014, 07:39:09 PM

Doesnt make sense... why would someone use a bitcoin generator since the address must be tied to your wallet? Who's wallet would these generated bitcoins belong to is the first question anyone would ask.. why would you send coins to a generated address that is not generated by your wallet? I think anyone who buys bitcoin will understand this.

I notice (and maybe I'm wrong since I've never actually sent or received a bitcoin) that some online services like blockchain.info have a service that says 'paste your bitcoin address here to receive bitcoins that you store here on blockchain.info'. Now the second assumption is that you have a wallet that allows you to cut and paste a bitcoin address into the field for receiving--I'm not sure such a thing exists--but if it does, either in online form or hard drive local form, that would be the second element required.

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Doesnt make sense... why would someone use a bitcoin generator since the address must be tied to your wallet? Who's wallet would these generated bitcoins belong to is the first question anyone would ask.. why would you send coins to a generated address that is not generated by your wallet? I think anyone who buys bitcoin will understand this.

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Quote from: RickDick on October 16, 2014, 02:31:42 PM

The thing is, the audience would be so niche. Bitcoin "noobs" who know how to send money but don't know how to properly create a secure wallet?

It's a big world out there RickDick. There are people who buy PCs and don't know how to plug them into a wall socket and turn them on. If Bitcoin goes mainstream I bet USA Today runs a story about this 'scam', lol. And, the target audience would be a first time bitcoin noob who has never sent money (that includes me). For example, it might be a "HOW TO" FAQ article that says: "to test your first bitcoin receive money procedure, do this:...cut and paste one of these randomly generated bitcoin addresses into your wallet" and then "...now, from your online account, send bitcoin to this address in your wallet..." and so forth.

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The thing is, the audience would be so niche. Bitcoin "noobs" who know how to send money but don't know how to properly create a secure wallet?

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Quote from: TonyT on October 16, 2014, 01:10:05 PM

Quote from: lynn_402 on October 16, 2014, 12:31:03 PM

Sending BTC dust isn't convenient because of the minimum transaction amount and network fees, but if you'd like to try playing with Dogecoin just write your address and I'll send you a few.

I might take a raincheck on that, thanks. I barely understand bitcoin; adding dogecoin to the mix might blow my mind! Maybe later...

It's basically the same thing; the biggest differences are that it uses a different algorythm to be mined, and of course the value is much lower.

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Quote from: lynn_402 on October 16, 2014, 12:31:03 PM

Sending BTC dust isn't convenient because of the minimum transaction amount and network fees, but if you'd like to try playing with Dogecoin just write your address and I'll send you a few.

I might take a raincheck on that, thanks. I barely understand bitcoin; adding dogecoin to the mix might blow my mind! Maybe later...

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Quote from: TonyT on October 16, 2014, 12:27:50 PM

Quote from: lynn_402 on October 16, 2014, 12:23:15 PM

The problem is that those who would be noobish enough to use it are the same people who only owns fraction of bitcoins which they got on faucets.

Or at least most of them.

So it probably wouldn't be worth the hosting costs of the website.

I think you are right lynn. BTW, I have ordered some bitcoin, and it will be delivered in a week's time, but for fun, if you want, send me some 'dust' (sounds like drugs?!) so I can play around with sending and receiving bitcoin. My public bitcoin address is in my profile, and is: 135D1oL8Ud6cCJZaSZ34pU2qrpC81xPQTi I can send it back to you if the amount covers the transaction costs. The smallest amount you can send is something like 0.00015 I think, or about a nickle in USD.

Sending BTC dust isn't convenient because of the minimum transaction amount and network fees, but if you'd like to try playing with Dogecoin just write your address and I'll send you a few.

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Quote from: lynn_402 on October 16, 2014, 12:23:15 PM

The problem is that those who would be noobish enough to use it are the same people who only owns fraction of bitcoins which they got on faucets.

Or at least most of them.

So it probably wouldn't be worth the hosting costs of the website.

I think you are right lynn. BTW, I have ordered some bitcoin, and it will be delivered in a week's time, but for fun, if you want, send me some 'dust' (sounds like drugs?!) so I can play around with sending and receiving bitcoin. My public bitcoin address is in my profile, and is: 135D1oL8Ud6cCJZaSZ34pU2qrpC81xPQTi I can send it back to you if the amount covers the transaction costs. The smallest amount you can send is something like 0.00015 I think, or about a nickle in USD.

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Quote from: Nobitcoin on October 16, 2014, 09:49:39 AM

Wouldn't the noob notice that firstly the website only produces one address and why would he use an address that he got from a website?

(1) you can give several addresses, but put the fake one at the top, and the rest being OK. Chances are they will take the top one.

(2) http://btcaddr.es/gen <--bitcoin address generator. Why I have no idea

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The problem is that those who would be noobish enough to use it are the same people who only owns fraction of bitcoins which they got on faucets.

Or at least most of them.

So it probably wouldn't be worth the hosting costs of the website.

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Quote from: CryptoCarmen on October 16, 2014, 10:04:23 AM

You would get rich in no time. But how to attract people using your site? Maybe make an signature campaign here?

Sorry, what is a signature campaign?

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Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

From noobs. For noobs....

I think the "noobs" are getting less "noob" nowadays, or atleast that's what I was thinking Cheesy

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Quote from: TonyT on October 15, 2014, 03:55:45 PM

For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

You would get rich in no time. But how to attract people using your site? Maybe make an signature campaign here?

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Wouldn't the noob notice that firstly the website only produces one address and why would he use an address that he got from a website?

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For noobs, you would have a website that says: "generate a random new Bitcoin address from your browser! No need to use your digital wallet, try it today!" The noob would click on the link, and the bitcoin address would in fact be the address of the scammer. Noob would cut and paste this into their wallet, online or offline, and hit "Send", when they are transferring money between their different wallets, thinking they are sending themselves money. But any money sent by noob would go to scammer and not into noob's wallet, since it is the scammer's bitcoin address, and not a random new bitcoin address.

A foolproof scam. Or am I the fool who is missing something?

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