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hero member
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

I'm not sure but it was to see how desperate these scammers are now and they use social media and even in text scamming messages. Scamming is everywhere, that was the sad fact...Even though we spread awareness to the public, this couldn't be enough to stop scammers, many people still will fall into their hands because of some promising word. And I see one reason for this - many people are really in need of money.
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When one have the mindset that their is no free money from a stranger on social  then it will be difficult to fall for scammers.  Now scammers offer to render financial help to people,  and many people always fall for it because they want to get free money.

Reason why so many people in crypto fall for similar scams is because noobies think of crypto and bitcoin as a magic money where anything is possible. They all heard of stories about people making millions with small investment so they think its easy with crypto. 

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The ability to deal with greediness is very essential as well, because too much of greed leads to being scammed.
When one have the mindset that their is no free money from a stranger on social  then it will be difficult to fall for scammers.  Now scammers offer to render financial help to people,  and many people always fall for it because they want to get free money. 
Greediness  is a serious challenge that most young people face in cryptocurrency and social media.  Scammers are very aware that greed  is instrument to capture people attraction when money is being offered to them. I would advise people to study on how to avoid Scammers and their tricks,  not to learn from their experience first.
hero member
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You could send like 2 tron to make a 'transfer' - dunno what they gonna do with 10 cents  Tongue
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The ability to deal with greediness is very essential as well, because too much of greed leads to being scammed.
You are correct, greedy people find it hard to spot new or old scam trend and tricks, for such people any opportunity looks like another way to make money for themselves, even when the scam is very glaring, to them it is not, because they think they have found a way to make money, having no knowledge about crypto makes people to lose their coins, but i think it is lack of knowledge in addition to greed that causes more loss because some scams are glaring even without knowledge, but it is greed that still makes people think that a scam could be a true way to make money.
hero member
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

This is how they send thier messages

Obviously if you are less knowledgeable and have no updates on the new trends of scamming, you’ll definitely fall on their trap. However, if you are responsible on keeping your account safe, you will know that sharing the seed phrase is a red flag. And entertaining some unidentified message requests is not advisable as those can be one of the strategies of scammers nowadays.
hero member
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Not everybody is well-informed about the dos and don'ts in the crypto space. Although it is very basic not to ever share private keys or seed phrase, for example, some are still giving it to random strangers online. Although it is advised to stay away from links provided by free giveaways, some are still clicking on them.

So this is just one of those newbie mistakes in crypto. The sad part is that some are like willing victims. They know that there is risk, they notice some red flags, they're aware of the scam potential, and so on, and yet, perhaps out of greed or whatever, they still proceed with it.
As long as there is greed that is hard to control, people will fall more as victims not because they have no idea that it’s a scam, but most likely their greed makes them create wrong and selfish decisions. So it’s always an intentional mistake, and not just a coincidence. This is not just for newbies out there but for all those who wish to believe in quick profits without money and efforts required.
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I've seen several of these type of scam back in the days and if you have no idea what they were doing then you might fall for their traps. Scammers will always try something to let their victims/prospect to spend money or send it to someone by luring different type of tricks to their victim.

Best way is always not to entertain them if you don't know who they are and always put it your head that there are no free money in this world. Just think about it as hard as you can since in reality money won't come easy, unless of course if you are doing something illegal. Grin
I haven't got this experience but mine came as a WhatsApp message giving me link to click to redeem the money, I already new that it was a scam. I do not expect anyone to fall for the cheap scam. There no how a total strange person will give you phrase or private keys for you to redeem coin for him. When did you tell the scammer that you are a technical guru who solves wallet related problems for strangers?
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I've seen several of these type of scam back in the days and if you have no idea what they were doing then you might fall for their traps. Scammers will always try something to let their victims/prospect to spend money or send it to someone by luring different type of tricks to their victim.

Best way is always not to entertain them if you don't know who they are and always put it your head that there are no free money in this world. Just think about it as hard as you can since in reality money won't come easy, unless of course if you are doing something illegal. Grin
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The best response is to ignore and look away from their dubious messages. The more you pay attention to their messages, the closer you realise that you are already being attracted to their scamming offers, it is also very good to be vigilant while reading or opening any strange messages. The ability to deal with greediness is very essential as well, because too much of greed leads to being scammed.
Greed will provide an opportunity for the fraudster to continue to convince the victim to do what the fraudster wants. Ignoring it is indeed a good way and block every user who sends any spam messages. Telegram is the place that gets the most scam messages and sometimes adds us to scam groups that are camouflaged as groups we've joined before.
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The best response is to ignore and look away from their dubious messages. The more you pay attention to their messages, the closer you realise that you are already being attracted to their scamming offers, it is also very good to be vigilant while reading or opening any strange messages. The ability to deal with greediness is very essential as well, because too much of greed leads to being scammed.
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anyway, it's good that you know that these are scams. since, believe it or not, there are people who fell for this scam despite it being too obvious.

It is greed that will make someone fall that easy. Such strategy is now outdated because it has really been exposed much. You see it on twitter, telegram and others. Some are sent to mail and if you respond then you get attracted. The best is not to respond so that the temptation is avoided. If you are not expecting such message from client or business partner then there is no need responding.
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I mean, if it is possible that Tether will freeze that portion of USDT, once that USDT is frozen, the scammer will suffer significant damage and they will give up their nefarious behavior, is not freezing the victim's Trx tokens deposited into the wallet. Assuming in the wallet that the scammer provided OP actually has 3800$, this is a very large amount and the TRX fee sent will be very small compared to the amount in it, freezing USDT will cause great damage to the attacker scam compared to what he got in return.
Not sure how much money those scammers make from this and if freezing their coins will be enough to stop them,  but what am sure about is that tether is already being widely criticized by the crypto community for its centralized nature and for freezing USDTs stolen from exchanges in the past, so the tether team are unlikely to get involved into this too considering that the amounts being stolen are too small.
btw, it appears the scammers use tron multisig wallets to prevent the victim from moving the coins. Any one interested can read more about how this scam works here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-trust-wallet-tron-multi-signature-scam-5411503
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It's a pure scam trick and I saw this before in this forum when someone posted. And many new users fall in this trap and lose their funds . So never trust like this kind of scams.
legendary
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Wow. So the anything sent to the wallet will be automatically transferred to another wallet. That's wonderful.
I know it's obvious scam but at times, I wonder why they feel free to give out private keys.
Now, I know what's really gonna happen.

these people are organized and they are not really risking anything by giving you their private keys. they are tricking gullible people into thinking that they'd make money from helping the scammer.

anyway, it's good that you know that these are scams. since, believe it or not, there are people who fell for this scam despite it being too obvious.
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You don't have to know how this scam works, when you receive such messages on your Twitter or telegram account just click on the BLOCK button and move on, if you open a brand new crypto wallet now you will be warned to never share your recovery seed with anyone, it's a big prove that these scammers know what they are doing, don't fall for their trap.
hero member
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I think everyone even if they are not active in social media they can still receive such interesting messages. Because even in text messages, I receive a lot of it plus links that are clickables that probably contain malware. But, they fail to please me nor I could become their victim. We already know that this is an obvious scam trick, no way we have to believe it - it certainly is ignored and deleted messages.

But I believe some and those innocent people are likely to fall into this kind of scheme.
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Almost every day is spent on telegram. I do get this sort of message; they come with various types of advice that they are providing you financial advice, they will question you if you are a trader and if you own any coins or tokens. The best thing you can do is always set your message privacy settings to only contact so that only people who have your contact can message you. You should also set your privacy so that nobody can add you to a group chat or channel without your permission, or simply use Discord communities instead of Telegram.
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 So my question here is: is there any way we can report these scams to the tether team? they will block these scam accounts and the scammers will no longer be able to perform their scams.

How will Tether block these accounts? As you said yourself, the USDT is probably already frozen at that address, so no one can move it. However, scammers are still able to move other tokens that land there. Tron is a decentralized network, so no one can freeze TRX.


I mean, if it is possible that Tether will freeze that portion of USDT, once that USDT is frozen, the scammer will suffer significant damage and they will give up their nefarious behavior, is not freezing the victim's Trx tokens deposited into the wallet. Assuming in the wallet that the scammer provided OP actually has 3800$, this is a very large amount and the TRX fee sent will be very small compared to the amount in it, freezing USDT will cause great damage to the attacker scam compared to what he got in return.
legendary
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 So my question here is: is there any way we can report these scams to the tether team? they will block these scam accounts and the scammers will no longer be able to perform their scams.

How will Tether block these accounts? As you said yourself, the USDT is probably already frozen at that address, so no one can move it. However, scammers are still able to move other tokens that land there. Tron is a decentralized network, so no one can freeze TRX.
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What they did was pretend they have USDT on their account as ERC20 or TRC20 or any token-based and luring you to deposit any amount for the fee to transfer the token but in the end, after you deposit it will automatically transfer to another address that you didn't own.
Most of the people who are trapped by this trick are greedy newbies. Always ignore these messages if you encounter such messages it's obvious scam.

Wow. So the anything sent to the wallet will be automatically transferred to another wallet. That's wonderful.
I know it's obvious scam but at times, I wonder why they feel free to give out private keys.
Now, I know what's really gonna happen.

Note also that any USDT sitting at that address cannot be transferred anyway. Tether has the ability to lock tokens if they are involved in some kind of scamming activity. Scammers use these tokens as bait for new victims, so you will see a lot of these private keys being shared around. Don't fall for such scams. If it seems too good to be true...

Other than that scammer, no one can move that money out of the wallet.
We all know that USDT is a stable coin, centralized and managed by Tether, which allows them to freeze any account they suspect is suspicious. So my question here is: is there any way we can report these scams to the tether team? they will block these scam accounts and the scammers will no longer be able to perform their scams.
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What they did was pretend they have USDT on their account as ERC20 or TRC20 or any token-based and luring you to deposit any amount for the fee to transfer the token but in the end, after you deposit it will automatically transfer to another address that you didn't own.
Most of the people who are trapped by this trick are greedy newbies. Always ignore these messages if you encounter such messages it's obvious scam.

Wow. So the anything sent to the wallet will be automatically transferred to another wallet. That's wonderful.
I know it's obvious scam but at times, I wonder why they feel free to give out private keys.
Now, I know what's really gonna happen.

Note also that any USDT sitting at that address cannot be transferred anyway. Tether has the ability to lock tokens if they are involved in some kind of scamming activity. Scammers use these tokens as bait for new victims, so you will see a lot of these private keys being shared around. Don't fall for such scams. If it seems too good to be true...
legendary
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I've been done more active on social media, talking to stranger people usually this happen on Telegram and Twitter which is not ideal to entertain or give them time.  There's no one giving you free money over the internet so if there's someone who offers you an address to send a small amount and you'll receive back a large amount, that's a suspicious one.

But anyway, thank you for the awareness, greediness shouldn't be tolerated because usually, those who fall into the trap are the greedy ones.
I know this is not a new trick, and I've done this before when someone offers me to create an account on an exchange and he wanted me to withdraw his fund, I tried it, but when I attempt to withdraw it, boom! they ask me for a large fee.
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This is actually almost similar with other scam methods. they only make some variations on the words and also the topic. but the scheme is almost the same. We know that scammers will commonly do this to many people that they can reach. If they are ignored by most of people, they will not stop, because they will accept that there must be at least a few people who believe in the scam. And in fact, this is really happened where there are still so many people being scammed in this way.
This can be found on some media social inboxes or DMs. The fact that they give the phrase or they ask for the phrase is very suspicious. Surely they want something to make someone believe and be interested in the offer. This will usually work on ordinary people, people who are easily deceived by power, and also people who are greedy and want to get rich instantly.
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They pretend to know nothing, and its easier for any greedy person to start thinking that this is a opportunity to rob someone not knowing that the weak is actually the strongest, not a known trick I got many like this on my Twitter account almost every time.
legendary
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But going through the response so far on this thread, I'm yet to see a genuine response as to how this scam is being carried out.
I am not sure what you don't understand.

USDT is a token available on several blockchains, Tron being one of them. You can't transfer tokens without paying network fees in the network-native currency. That's why you need ether if you want to send ERC-20 tokens, for example. In this particular case, we aren't dealing with Ethereum and Ethereum tokens, we are dealing with Tron and TRC-20 tokens. To move those 3800 USDT (TRC-20 tokens), you need the network-native currency to pay the transaction fees. In other words, you need Tron. The scammer created a Tron account, deposited USDT on it, and probably set up a smart contract that steals any incoming Tron coins and sends them to a different address that belongs to the scammer. That's the whole idea. If you want to move the coins, you have to deposit some Tron. Any Tron you deposit is immediately stolen. No one can move those 3800 USDT because no Tron can ever stay in the account to be used for the network fees. It's a vicious circle.
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I think Twitter only reacts based on the reports of their community. I doubt they check and verify these things themselves. If many people report it as a scam, Twitter checks and deletes the posts and/or bans the accounts responsible.
You are correct Pmalek, Twitter or other social media apps that scams happen very well, like telegram, do not verify or check anything for you, and they shouldn't, they cannot help people to verify or check scams, people who use their site are to verify and check for scams by themselves and not to be greedy, if they notice any scam handle they can report it for the site to ban them and they will if the reports are many and the proof is solid. For example people cannot wait for Twitter support to stay in their PM waiting to detect any scam message coming in. Cheesy
I know it's obvious scam but at times, I wonder why they feel free to give out private keys.
Now, I know what's really gonna happen.
Yeah, no random person will give out private keys to you without a plan to steal from you, except probaby newbies that are not knowledgeable, but the people behind this type of scam are not newbies, but smart tech people.
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Have encountered this earlier this year also although I didn't fall for it because I know it must be scam. How on earth someone will have such amount of USDT and lack tf? But going through the response so far on this thread, I'm yet to see a genuine response as to how this scam is being carried out. Some people are saying greedy people fall for this trick but I don't see it as being greedy if truly you're willing to help. Unless you're trying to scam the scammer, then you become greedy and fall for the trap.
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What they did was pretend they have USDT on their account as ERC20 or TRC20 or any token-based and luring you to deposit any amount for the fee to transfer the token but in the end, after you deposit it will automatically transfer to another address that you didn't own.
Most of the people who are trapped by this trick are greedy newbies. Always ignore these messages if you encounter such messages it's obvious scam.

Wow. So the anything sent to the wallet will be automatically transferred to another wallet. That's wonderful.
I know it's obvious scam but at times, I wonder why they feel free to give out private keys.
Now, I know what's really gonna happen.
legendary
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It's quite an old scam really and i'm really surprised that twitter is actually detecting and banning those accounts.
I think Twitter only reacts based on the reports of their community. I doubt they check and verify these things themselves. If many people report it as a scam, Twitter checks and deletes the posts and/or bans the accounts responsible.


1. Random people aren't going to give you $500 on the street, so stop thinking it will happen online.
2. If the offer was legit, the person wouldn't have to contact you to help them. Everyone has friends, family, neighbors, acquaintance, colleagues they can ask for help.
3. Don't think of yourself as being special to receive this financial boost. You are only special if you fall for it.

* The above isn't directed to the OP. It's a general warning. 
hero member
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I was suprise when I saw the scam tricks and I was just thinking about how the trick will work, I was told that you after importing the private into your wallet address, if you try to send the coin out, you will receive a notification that you don't have sufficient gas fee, you will want to deposit money to the wallet address for gas fee since the amount in the wallet is huge and you will be getting your own share from the money, immediately you deposit the gas fee then the money will be transferred to another wallet immediately.
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The first explanation suffices the answer on your query. Ver tricky bastards but thats only if you did or fall for that. Any messages on social media whom you didnt know or not actually connected with you should be block especially if the message is quite sensitive and about money matters.  Of course youll get confuse why is t like that right.  But remember that easy money are the one easily get loss easily too.
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This is an old trick. Those who are still caught up in it this day should hide their faces in utter shame for allowing their greed get hold of them. We can excuse those who got scammed when this scam debuted on the excuse that they saw a cry for help and mistook it for a genuine cry, offered to help rescue distressed wallet owners but got done in. What about today that the scam has become rampant. Shouldn't people begin to realize that there's no free cash anywhere?

Like several posters have explained the process as a pure ensnarement, I believe those contemplating harvesting the supposed trapped cash in the exposed wallet should call themselves rogues if they as much as made an attempt to reap where they didn't sow.
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

This is how they send thier messages


Scammer usually scrape the followers of certain crypto twitter account and spam message them using there software. I’m receiving this kind of email too after I follow some crypto projects account which I didn’t receive when I’m just following only people that I know. I bet no one in the right mind that will click random DM containing links on the social media.Those users that will become a victim of this obvious scam really deserves it for there lesson in there life.

Simply just stop accepting DM via configuring it on account settings or stop following crypto projects using your personal social media account so that this kind of scam attempt will not gonna mixed up to your personal life.
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This is an old-school way of scamming greedy newbies. These scammers generally contact using Direct Messaging and would always send a message similar to what you have received. They mainly target social media platforms or on chat apps and their success rate is also good. That is why it is necessary to close DMs on any social media platforms and ignore such messages on chat apps.
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Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
1) You open the wallet with the private key ( 12 secret phases) sent to you in the message.

2) You will see $3800 (usdt) in the wallet but there will be no tron coin for gas fees (Because you want to send those USDTs to your wallet) Grin

3) you will send some tron to that wallet, But all these coins will be transferred to another wallet and there will be no tron coins for the gas fee in the wallet again. LOL

No matter how many times you try/send tron coin in that wallet but it will remain with 0 trx coin.
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

This is how they send thier messages


Yes I have encountered this before in Telegram. Quite similar tactic but I just simply delete the chat and blocked that person. Not only with this kind of script, but we have to be vigilant and learn to have second thoughts or ask opinion from the experienced ones before believing in that kind of message or so. Let’s be extra careful because the scammers and hackers are getting smarter due to learning of their mistakes in the past of failed methods.
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

This is how they send thier messages

As other members said above, the scammer is counting on the fact that you will be blinded by your greed and send TRX (depending on the network) to try to get the USDT out. but your TRX will be instantly transferred to the scammer's address.

It's quite an old scam really and i'm really surprised that twitter is actually detecting and banning those accounts.
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Not everybody is well-informed about the dos and don'ts in the crypto space. Although it is very basic not to ever share private keys or seed phrase, for example, some are still giving it to random strangers online. Although it is advised to stay away from links provided by free giveaways, some are still clicking on them.

So this is just one of those newbie mistakes in crypto. The sad part is that some are like willing victims. They know that there is risk, they notice some red flags, they're aware of the scam potential, and so on, and yet, perhaps out of greed or whatever, they still proceed with it.
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As a general rule, ignore these types of messages on any social media platform. No one would ever give you $500 or any amount for free without a caveat- these scammers generally have some sort of shenanigans that will only lose you more money in the process. If there is one thing I learned over the years of looking/finding scammers in this forum, it is never to trust anyone who messages you randomly. Chances are, you would probably and most likely get scammed.

Unfortunately, the best remedy is to just ignore and prevent dealing with these people. Though being curious about their replies is okay, just do not fall from their attractive offers as this would only leave you in to trouble.
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Do not send Tron to that wallet address, you will see some amount of USDT on the wallet, but the scammer make use of bot to withdraw your fund without you able to spent the USDT. I mean on the wallet, the Tron to transfer the USDT will not be enough, you will have to send Tron into the wallet, if you do, the scammer make use of bot that will automatically withdraw the Tron into another address and you will not be able to withdraw the USDT and you are scammed in Tron. What I think would happen. Inability to withdraw and scam is definitely the end result.

You can read another the same scam on these threads:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60723718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/take-money-170000-5407489
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5407144

You will notice that Tron are sent to the address, but withdrawn immediately, those are the Tron of people that are scammed already, and if you try your luck, then you would be scammed too.
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Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?


There are lots of them reported here and it is not just on Twitter you can also receive them in some telegram groups, Discord, and Email.

What they did was pretend they have USDT on their account as ERC20 or TRC20 or any token-based and luring you to deposit any amount for the fee to transfer the token but in the end, after you deposit it will automatically transfer to another address that you didn't own.
Most of the people who are trapped by this trick are greedy newbies. Always ignore these messages if you encounter such messages it's obvious scam.
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This mostly happens when one allow message request on twitter. I've received several messages like this but even when I tried to reply and see how they go about it,Twitter will have suspended the account.
Did anyone here knows how this scammer steal coins from people with this kind of trick?
Incase anyone here wanna fall into thier trap.
Although staying away from them is the best way but some people are just too greedy to stay away  Grin

This is how they send thier messages
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