Topic: I need your ideas (Read 584 times)

Mate bear this in mind that no matter the depth of the situation we plunge ourselves into suicide is not an option and that's because there's always a better solution or solution's to any problem. You have mad a mistake quite alright but don't make another mistake which is suicide. There have been people that had gone through worst situation than yours but then they never saw suicide as an option ,now today they're stand tall and have overcome the whole issues that weighed them down and I believe yours can be resolved but not through suicidal thoughts,factor that energy of suicidal thoughts to ways of getting solution and you will be 90% way to clearing your debts already and living comfortably. Okay!

Suicide cannot solve your problems because it is against religious law for you to commit suicide, and even if you pass away, I doubt the bank will let you off the hook for the debt you owe them because your family will be responsible for paying it. Therefore, my advice to you is to explain your situation to anyone you believe in so that they can help you and you can also work hard to pay the debt. After that, don't think about your options again or getting involved in anything concern gambling.

You don't kill yourself but you try to solve it and admit your mistake. You gambled with the loan from the bank and suffered losses. Now start trending with a small amount without gambling with the loan again. Of course, if you trade wisely, you will be able to earn good profits. Remember that you have to pay off your debt and be careful not to gamble again. Only then will you be able to pay off your debts and have a bright future in your life.

I might not know how much you borrowed from your bank to gamble with but talking to someone closer to you will go a long way. While waiting for the time to payback the loan in the meanwhile getting involved in jobs that will raise funds to offset the debt will be a better option as long as there is life all hope isn't lost.

I would hope this is not a cry for free money or to bring some to feel
Guilt. Maybe you are truly hurt and addicted to gambling . Gambling is a dirty business and the house (site , casino or operator) always wins in the long run. The odds are always against you. Gambling is bad. With that being said you need to keep your head up and be positive and learn from your horrible mistakes . Health is wealth and you can recover form this but suicide you cannot . An honestly to say it bluntly, is a weak way out of current said depression. I think you need to focus more on yourself and those around you whom you care and value you highly. Think of friends and family who would be devastated by your passing…. Lost money is just money. Stay strong my friend !

Depending on where someone lives, walking into an emergency room is a good way of owing even MORE money. mental health services come with a cost attached to them in some cases. just something to be aware of. they can get you into even deeper financial hole. by all means if it's really an emergency then i guess its necessary but they're not your friend and they do want to collect money. hopefully they take bitcoin. maybe your first recommendation is better or just talk to a friend.

I don't know what country your in or laws in your area but bankruptcy is actually a good thing instead of being a slave to bank and your mistakes. They took a calculated risk and "gambled" on you don't feel bad about it.

There are many hotlines at your disposal, maybe your church has or could guide you to some services. Simply walk into a emergency room and they can help you immediately.

Good luck buddy.

Well first I must say I am really sorry to hear about this but committing suicide is not the answer. I would also recommend that you seeks out therapy for this gambling habit and make sure you stay in the program.

There are many treatment programs for gambling addiction and hotlines to call for help. If one of my friends had such a problem as you say you do, I would help them get treatment because I care for their mental well-being.

aren't crypto casinos just scams in that most people are going to be losers so basically this is bad advice in the sense that he will just be trying to encourage people into becoming just like him, someone that lost all their money from gambling.

also he would need to careful that he's not breaking any laws by being involved in internet gambling. not all banks are friendly towards that type of business. but who cares about that kind of stuff right? just post your ads and try and fleece new gamblers for as much as you can.

hey bro,

everything will be alright - the sun will come up every day and you will be able to compensate, even learn and earn way more money then before.

I lost a lot through gambling but there are ways to go where you can earn with crypto casinos, such as affiliate.
You can easily build yourself a following and earn referrals and then earn from these casinos, completely for free - with just a little bit of work everyday.

Keep your head up and work towards a better future, where you stake, lock and compound your earned tokens and buy a house and a nice car eventually 

well you would think that someone that lost everything gambling it would take them out of play for a while, while they try and build up another bankroll. that would give them time to think about what they're doing. if they go through that cycle enough times, it is probably somewhat self correcting in the sense that at some point, they get tired of being dead broke.

people can do drugs and live a functional life financially. it is possible.

 

Suicide is a great sin. And suicide is not the solution to everything.
 Remember people learn from mistakes, you should not kill yourself. because you might have lost all your money by mistake. Now you should learn from your mistakes and become a successful trader. You don't make yourself a coward by committing suicide. Remember that people can change themselves through hard work and effort. So never think of suicide change yourself and achieve success.

You won't gonna suicide mate. The one who's gonna suicide never look down from bridge. Now you're trying to figure out some solution it means you are looking down! Be calm down firstly, then accept your mistakes. Try to make money and pay banks. If its not enough don't worry banks will offer you some kind of new payment plan. With this new payment plan they will charge you more but they will be sure youre gonna pay it. Pay it and never turn back to gambling. If you failed one more time you'll lose your future and struggle with your mistakes. Don't lost your life and brilliant future.

Try to gambling on horse race or football but with small amount and collect til you not pay bank loan plus find a few extra mini-jobs and work hard.I know several people who have lost money like you.

Rather, do not get carried away.  Problem gamblers know that they are going to lose more money, in the same way that a heroin addict knows he is going to end badly if he doesn't quit.


Fentanyl is not the same as either alcohol or gambling but the parallel I am trying to draw is that an ex-alcoholic has the opportunity to drink again in a few minutes, especially if he lives in a city and not in the middle of the mountains. The gambler can also return to gambling in seconds with his cell phone. At the end of the day, the one who recovers knows how to live with it.

disagree. they're not "all over" the internet. alot of websites contain no blatant banner ads to gambling websites. because they don't accept such ads. i would say most websites do not contain gambling ads.

you mean like come to the realization that they are going to just lose more money if they keep gambling?



alcohol and gambling are not the same.

Gambling ads are all over the internet, not only in this forum. In the end, the recovering person has to be able to view those ads in an emotionally neutral way and not gamble again, just as a recovering alcoholic cannot lock himself in a basement and not come out again so as not to see opportunities to buy alcohol. There are opportunities to drink alcohol everywhere, just as there are opportunities to gamble, and you have to know how to live with that without falling back into it.

If you have a gambling addiction or problem, this site may not be the best place to hang out as they will show you banner ads that promote gambling websites. Truth.

yeah you can go sparta and not go athens

but the truth is both ways are wrong.

the biggest issue how to separate people and get rid of the bad seeds correctly.


basically we as humans have been pretty bad at doing this.

very likely we will continue to be this way for the near future and middle future and far future.

it is likely hard wired in us to not be able to sort the troubled ones out and help or get rid of them.

ie Charley Manson did not need to spend decades in a prison a ten cent bullet could have saved us some money.

I find him to be a good example of failing to rid ourselves of anchors or rocks 🪨 so to speak.

As for the op I can tell him the last bet I made was in July of 1990 the last illegal drug I took was in Jan of 1991 and the last tobacco I used was on Feb 29th 1996.

And the only person I have been with intimately since 1985 is my wife.

And it has been a very good time for me far better then my partying and gambling years from 1972 to early 1985.

All because i got Athens treatment for my fucked up behavior.

I know lots of people treated “easy” with compassion and their failure rate was over 50%



Personally I would of failed with hard treatment. But I can tell you my bro-in-law got easy treatment much like me and is a spectacular failure. He will continue to be a mess as he has past the point of no return.

He gave himself dementia due to terrible diet and will not recover.

Hopefully you will find a way out of this and will have learned to change your ways. If not.... Just another case of Darwin at work...

There is a serious problem what the OP is telling us, and that is that the availability to gamble 24 hours a day from your mobile has increased the potential problems associated with it. Add to that the fact that today many banks give you instant loans from your mobile as well and you have the perfect combination for a disaster.

OP, take a cue from philipma1957. You can get out of any serious situation like the one you are in. Just take advantage of having hit rock bottom as motivation to look for a better future.

I don't think anyone here has not made mistakes that are more than yours but the truth is committing suicide is not the best option. It has never solved anything and will not start now.

 Imagine you have nine lives. So for every mistake, you contemplate suicide? You can't run from a mistake because you'd always come back to it, but rather learn from it, then take positive steps to changing it instead of ending your life. That's the greatest gamble of which some people don't come out winners.

Mate this you statement is confusing, The statement indirectly saying that he should commit suicide if the bank authority or the government leaders disturb or came to arrest him or his or her family people. That is if the him or his family people could not pay the debt indirectly he should commit suicide. suicide is not the best option, according to a saying "when there is life, there is hope", he still have hope to pay the debt. It is better for him to loss his property then losing his life. When the bank people come for the debt he should give his properties to settle the debt. Gambling is a game of luck and good predictions, he should should not use big money to play bet again but small amount to play games and win small and big to settle the debt and collect his things back. Or he should use the new wins to start new life. {If there is life, there is hope}. First of all, save your life then think a positive way forward.

Thinking suicide as an option is the dumbest idea I've ever heard, this doesn't sound like the best way to go about it. Normally people do own debt and pay it off in due time regardless of how they owned them. I only see it as the irony of life. Believe me, no matter the situation you find yourself in, someone else's own is worse. Know this and know peace ✌️.

- Don't commit suicide. You might wind up paying eternally for the suicide in the resurrection.


- Don't commit suicide until you find out if the banks or government will come after your family to make them pay the debt.


- Find people you can trust, or if you are in the right country, form a trust or corporation without your name on any of it - let a relative control it - and place all your property that you own with these people or artificial entities. The idea is to get it out of your ownership so that the bank can't take it for the debt.

Find out how long you have to wait, by law, until the new owner can't be attacked because the bank might think you are simply hiding your property. In the US it's 2 years. Simply make payments for that long, but after that, cancel your debt. If you don't go to prison - which you won't in many countries - live off funds you request from people who are running what used to be your property.


- Often, if you go to court over the money, and the bank wins the judgement, depending on what you signed in court (don't sign anything if you can help it), make the statement that you can only afford to pay off a dollar a day. The bank may have to accept this, but don't fail to ever make at least this payment.


- Don't gamble in the future. For example, some people call buying stocks and bonds like it is taking a chance... like it is gambling. But it isn't a gamble if you have looked into past performance and check out dividends. After all, you could trip on the throw rug in your bedroom, and hit your head on the table and break your neck and die. Life is always at least a little bit of a gamble. Do your due diligence, both regarding the rug, and regarding investing.

Let me sound this loud and clear; when you try to make gambling as a source of loss recovery and source of income you'll rather end up becoming the source of income to others.
While I say this I'll also advise you keep faith and hope alive go out there and source for a legit source of income that would pay your debt for it's not the end up of life but rather life for you has just begun.

Even countries owe debts not talk of an individual. So calm down and be useful.

The bottom line is, never see gambling as a source of living!

You took a loan from banks, and you will bed to pay them but there is no need for suicide. Normally people will just have to find a way to make money. My fallback if I have a loan to pay I think will be driving a taxi which I could avoid while also making money to pay them later. This could be a choice for you too.

Just face the problem dude, suicide is not a good escape. Just be a man and work it out with them. I don't think they will jail you, that won't be beneficial for them.

Suicide is a huge gamble.

The down sides of doing it are terrible.

Hell maybe.
worse is nothing.
or how bout you realize you close the loop on your life on a deadbeat song and are told you will repeat your life over and over and over again always ending with the same stupid move of suicide.

I am a compulsive gambler.
I did two intentional drug overdoses trying to kill myself.
I also suffered with acute psychosis along with ptsd for 10 years.  I had a bad life style age 15-28

But I quit gambling.
stopped using drugs
met a girl married her in 1986.
still with her now in 2022.

So if my life is like a vinyl record after some shitty songs the rest are much better.
So you can help yourself. And make some good music 🎼

vs “they are off you lose” from a very old abbott and costello show.

Try to find a gamblers anonymous group near you .

They helped me get well.

I would wish you good luck but you do not need good luck. You need to stop gambling.

One thing is to stop, that's why you have self exclusion. Do not play on casino's that don't have that.

Second step is somehow forget for 1-2 months about the debt even if it might hurt your credit score (if they are too high), you may ask the banks about a delay.

Third step work harder on recovering, maybe this shall be a bigger step for your status to be increased and make more money after this, or continue what you used to do and work for the debt.

DO NOT GAMBLE TO RECOVER YOUR LOSS! You won't!

suicide is not the best way to solve the debt. I know the reason why you are writing here. ok. let me narrate brief story for you to understand your own reason.

A man wanted to killed himself so he took a robe and went into the forest. reaching the forest, he hanged the robe a big tree for him to die fast. After tieing robe on a branch of the big tree, he took the remaining part of the robe to wrapped his neck, and in the process of wrapping the robe on his neck, he heard a gunshot which was very close to him and it was a hunter killing an animal in the forest. This man removed the robe from his neck and ran away. And came back to the town. What am I trying to say. If you really want to commit suicide you won't come here  to tell us that. You came here to tell us because you don't want to die. So I will advice you not to kill yourself although killing yourself is not in your mind. The best way to do it, it is to do minor works to pay your debt gradually till you see a big job to clear all. The Lord is your strength.

Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo