Topic: I wanna make my loan public here - 60 Bitcoins (Read 2788 times)

I made that without notice to you, just to see if you show up with some coins, turns out that I could also catch one of your lies

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-admin-action-needed-thiagocmc-finnaly-caught-lying-161048

wow! this was some serious drama. i feel a bit guilty for enjoying it so much. all is supposedly well now. it sure was nice of BitSyncom to step in and put this drama to bed https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1701978

i gotta say, rudrigorc2 sure was quick to cough up that payment address AFTER he lost ALL leverage.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1702357
if you had a gpu that could work that fast, you wouldn't even need an Avalon. LMAO

@ThiagoCMC
i suggest you just pay this man his 60 BTC and never speak to him again.
feel better knowing that you publicly outed a scammer
best of luck to you and your 2 money trees

totally incorrect. If in the end the units are shipped to me I already public offered to free ship to him the one he paid with his coins

Could someone summarize that Portuguese nonsense because all I understand is a date saying:


Considering 27/03/2013 the repayment day, then ThiagoCMC was late 2 days and now you (rudrigorc2) refuse any payment and want to keep 120 BTC worth of hardware? Unacceptable and totally inappropriate. Add a small late fee like 1% / day he was late to the 60 BTC and give him his avalons. Otherwise I consider you a thieve and you according to my opinion deserve a scammer tag.

And regarding this:


He took the loan and bought the Avalons, taking the whole risk of avalon to default / ASICs getting shiped broke / ... whatsoever. If you wanted an avalon you could have asked for a 50/50 ownership split in the beginning but that was too risky for you and you gave him the loan. Now you see a possibility to scam 2 Avalons for half the price. Thats how I and the rest of the community understand this story.

Dãhhh... You made a new deal, a new agreement. As we all can see here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--149851
Why you keep bringing the `dead deals' to try to help you out?

just look at the date from batch 2 wave two.  initial loan repay was 3 days after that, the second date is public, and you missed it too

lets find a way through this, this is the important part, but dont consider the machine yours yet, cause its not, you never had the coins to put in it in the first place, again, the payment went from my own btc address.

How can be possible if our new agreement ended up few hours ago?

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--149851

I'm trying to pay him all day long... Almost since yesterday...

more than one month late.

He's a couple days late on a loan and now you're refusing to accept any payment?

Its convenient to him to make this appear like this, I never considered that avalon mine before 27 march.

Yes I want the better deal, what happened it not my fault, I offered him a chance no one would and he missed, now Im the villain?

I also offered him this:

If avalon end up shipping both to my place, and he does not want me to host it anymore, I will mine to get enough coins to ship unit to brazil, and keep paying Thiago daily for that units work power until it gets there in safety. This thing started when I offered hosting, so he does not need to worry about shipping time and UTTER HIGH taxation in brazil, let alone the difficulty rise in between and double electricity costs.

He says he has offered to pay you "your dues". It looks like you're just making excuses for grabbing a better deal in a shonky fashion.

what a mess, you could avoid this only by paying your dues and not trying to get free loans from people like you do

BTW, me too, withdraw requested days before the crash but, apparently, I lost the Bitcoins of my family... I'm about to die...  lol

That freaking Avalon (#3917) IS MY!!!  hohoho! No matter what. I bought it.

That justice be done. I have my rights, I know that, even if I'm against the `System', if it works here and there, lets still use it...

Who possible buy this Avalon order #3917, will regret.
Don't fall for Rodrigo's BS.

Yes, got confirmation when I bought, Avalon never answers ANY message.

Now it is time to a small talk here, hey Yifu! BytSincom, come on! Lets clear this shit like mans.

Because he is a brazilian guy, living in China, he have good reputation mining with Icarus, we helped each other before...

So, we talked about making a ASIC Rig in China, to not import the hardware to Brazil, too much trouble, so, I changed the address to him.

Now, I want at least, 1 Avalon that I paid with my money (#3345) in MY address.

If Avalon wants to give #3917 to him, because he does not want my Bitcoins anymore, well, that is fine BUT, 1 Avalon is MY.

I want that be clear.

#3345 is MY.

#3917 Rodrigo doesn't want my Bitcoins back and Avalon said Amem.

You got confirmation from Avalon? At least you got that much, and you have some information with which you can fight.

damn! i need some popcorn for this one
 

So, lets make all this public:


I bought 2 (two) Avalons IN MY NAME, on 2nd batch, MY orders number: #3345 and #3917.

The order #3345, I paid with MY Bitcoins.

The order #3917, I paid with the Bitcoins from Rodrigo.

I have his 60.00 Bitcoins since the middle of the day but, Rodrigo is going crazy all day... He doesn't want my Bitcoins, he wants the MY Avalon.

The Avalon I bought under MY NAME. Are you guys from AVALON HEARING?? Yifu ?? BitSyncom ??

I'll repeat: I talked with him a lot trough Skype today, he doesn't want the Bitcoins...


Here we go:

Order #3345:

1- Confirmation I received from wallebit:



2- Confirmation I received from Avalon:



---

Order #3917

1- Confirmation I received from walletbit:



2- Confirmation I received from Avalon:



....

So, Yifu, ButSyncom, are you guys about to delivery MY Avalon to Rodrigo, REALLY? I'm waiting for your answer, ASAP.


Because you guys (Yifu, ButSyncom) doesn't respond any e-mail, any support ticket, nothing. I need to ask this here:

* Do I'll lose my Avalon (#3345) to this Rodrigo guy because he is playing with you guys?

** Do I'll lose my Avalon (#3917) to this Rodrigo guy because he doesn't want my 60.00 Bitcoins back and you, Yifu, will delivery MY Avalon to him?


Why I'm sking this??
A.: Simple, because I do not want Rodrigo touching my Avalons, so, I changed the `shipping address' TODAY back to me. But apparently, as Rodrigo said, Yifu will NOT delivery my Avalon to me, as I did on its own support ticket.


Avalon, don't let this be true.


Without further ado,
Thiago

BTW, thanks for making this public!

Now we now how Avalon does its job, and of course, who you really are.

Since you are telling everyone that Avalon will NOT ship my Avalon to my home address, is that correct?!

So, Avalon is just ignoring that I bought it using my name and etc... If that is true... Sorry, Avalon isn't a serious company.

@rudrigorc2

You are CRAZY about what happened with Leandro, from BitcoinRain / MercadoBitcoin.

I already told you on Skype: Give me your Bitcoin Address. You said: no.


What can I do? Through the coins to trash?


YOU WANT THE AVALON I BOUGHT. YOU DON'T WANT MY BITCOINS.


Guys, let me explain this:

1- I bought 1 Avalon, in MY NAME, in MY ADDRESS.

2- rudrigorc2 borrow me 57 Bitcoins;

3- I paid walletbit (I have all vouchers in my e-mail box);

4- I received the order number from Avalon.

5- The hardware is MY. Okay??

Is something goes wrong, Avalon will be blamed too.


Yes, I have some coins with Leandro on Bitcoin Rain, I'm working with Leandro since the beginning of the Bitcoin in Brasil, I have good faith in Leandro, he is my friend.

But, from now on, I'll do my trading job alone, no more bitcoinrain, no more blah blah blah... Maybe do I something wrong? That is MY problem, and I'll work to fix it.

Give me your bitcoins address, you dumbass.

Regards,
Thiago

Ahm if thiagoCMC has nothing to do with bitcoinrain, then why do you tell us that story? Just because of your "maybe he is also one of those who might have lost coins"? Anyway back to topic

So ThiagoCMC owes you 60 BTC and you want to cash out his order for 120 BTC? Sounds a bit unfair as long as you dont intend to give the remaining 60 BTC back to ThiagoCMC (maybe minus a small fee for the trouble).

Next thing about which order are we talking here. You say he "has one avalon batch2 order" and then say "the machine". Must be a HUGE machine for 11280 USD (120 BTC * 94 USD / BTC)

1- Im posting this here because this is a lending.

as far as I know bitcoinrain is not run by thiagocmc, I repeat, he does not run that website.

thiago is a nice guy but maybe he is also one of those who might have lost coins in escrow by Leandro, the owner of bitcoinrain ,  big mess and trouble to brazilian community, which I dont know why remain silent at this point.

I just mentioned because that is my motive to making this public and protect me for any further loss.

So ThiagoCMC runs www.bitcoinrain.com meaning ThiagoCMC missed the repayment date and his company is close to insolvence? Otherwise I dont understand how bitcoinrain and ThiagoCMC are linked...

And I still dont know why you post this here now... Wouldnt it be better in the scammer section or staying in your Portuguese thread? Maybe in the sell section if you want to find a buyer for your order but why here in the lending section?

Regarding this part, the site went down two days after I requested my withdraw..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--149851

Last month I loaned ~57 to get 60 bitcoins yesterday, but the time is due.

ThiagoCMC has one avalon batch2 order, but the machine is coming to MY address. Yifu is aware of this situation. The thing he does not know is that I paid with my own wallet. I can prove that.

So im giving 2 more days to get those coins otherwise I will try to sell the avalon and try to get those coins back.

I am only doing this because www.bitcoinrain.com one investment group has signs of insolvency and I since I had 60 coins there so I expect to sell this avalon order for at least 120BTC.

Thats all folks. I hope Im wrong and nothing wrong happens.