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This is one example where everyone is staring itself blind on how 'fantastic' blockchains are.

In this specific case you don't need a blockchain at all. All you need is a replicating database and it will do its work just as efficiently. If you take that into consideration, they could have set it up years and years ago already, but them constantly outsourcing everything related to IT makes them lose out on so much valuable knowledge, and thus insane amounts of money.

I'm not making a lot of friends by saying this, but the whole blockchain thing is one big empty hype. If your main goal isn't immutability, you don't need a blockchain, period.
You are right and I would say that blockchain is adorable here, it's en extra layer of protection if integrated in some services but I can't see any reason why other techs are useless and blockchain is so helpful here, there is no way it can reduce shipping times by 40%, just no way because argumentd given on this thread are useless for this task.
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This is one example where everyone is staring itself blind on how 'fantastic' blockchains are.

In this specific case you don't need a blockchain at all. All you need is a replicating database and it will do its work just as efficiently. If you take that into consideration, they could have set it up years and years ago already, but them constantly outsourcing everything related to IT makes them lose out on so much valuable knowledge, and thus insane amounts of money.

I'm not making a lot of friends by saying this, but the whole blockchain thing is one big empty hype. If your main goal isn't immutability, you don't need a blockchain, period.

You traitor  Grin

Of course, at this point, the project itself looks more like a private database than a blockchain.
It's private, there is no "mining", there are no coins, no bounty , and there are some guys that enter the data in the "chain" without verification from nodes.

But that aside, my real concern is that maybe instead of trying to make the paperwork more effective, should we cut the paperwork?
Everything is so efficient, everything is automated....yet we still need 1600 people to maintain a damn database  Shocked



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Well, the news is a welcome surprise and is really wonderful on how blockchain is helping address a lot of issues here. I wouldn't agree that blockchain makes everything better, we have seen a lot of shit ICOs using blockchain as a means to just get money and do nothing of what the ICO was really for.

This whole case-study is very delightful and the way the article is portrayed is overwhelming, cause you don't see these types of articles every day.

The number in the article flabbergasting, 1600 employees is no joke, and that too for a blockchain based shipping company. Good luck to them.
The more the project, the less quality. The main purpose is to attract money into the bag and collect all bitcoin. This is the work of most projects sprouting up a lot, the application is less. Need to change so that the community has more progress. There are too many problems to be solved.
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This is one example where everyone is staring itself blind on how 'fantastic' blockchains are.

In this specific case you don't need a blockchain at all. All you need is a replicating database and it will do its work just as efficiently. If you take that into consideration, they could have set it up years and years ago already, but them constantly outsourcing everything related to IT makes them lose out on so much valuable knowledge, and thus insane amounts of money.

I'm not making a lot of friends by saying this, but the whole blockchain thing is one big empty hype. If your main goal isn't immutability, you don't need a blockchain, period.

I guess this is true, blockchain might be used here just for the hype and publicity. But something tells me that blockchain is that one more layer of security that they decided to add on top of the database, it sure can't hurt them, right?
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This is one example where everyone is staring itself blind on how 'fantastic' blockchains are.

In this specific case you don't need a blockchain at all. All you need is a replicating database and it will do its work just as efficiently. If you take that into consideration, they could have set it up years and years ago already, but them constantly outsourcing everything related to IT makes them lose out on so much valuable knowledge, and thus insane amounts of money.

I'm not making a lot of friends by saying this, but the whole blockchain thing is one big empty hype. If your main goal isn't immutability, you don't need a blockchain, period.
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Well, the news is a welcome surprise and is really wonderful on how blockchain is helping address a lot of issues here. I wouldn't agree that blockchain makes everything better, we have seen a lot of shit ICOs using blockchain as a means to just get money and do nothing of what the ICO was really for.

This whole case-study is very delightful and the way the article is portrayed is overwhelming, cause you don't see these types of articles every day.

The number in the article flabbergasting, 1600 employees is no joke, and that too for a blockchain based shipping company. Good luck to them.
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The TradeLens shipping partnership now has 94 partners, despite blockchain skeptics

Did you just get a TV from Tokyo or flowers from France? Blockchain, that potentially disruptive but much-derided technology, might have helped deliver the goods.

A blockchain-based IBM partnership with global shipping colossus Maersk has now expanded to include 94 partners, Big Blue said Thursday. That includes shippers, customs houses, ports and others that have to wrangle paperwork as containers full of goods move around the world.

The result is shipping times that dropped a whopping 40 percent on average, according to Marie Wieck, who leads IBM's 1,600-employee blockchain work.


That's the kind of improvement that every inventory manager and bean-counter in accounting loves. And it ultimately means lower prices for anyone buying that TV or those flowers.

Six decades ago, the standard-size shipping container famously revolutionized shipping. Blockchain could do the same.

"We believe it has the potential to have the same amount of impact on the process," Wieck said.

Wait, what's blockchain again?
Blockchain cuts paperwork-handling hassles by a factor of 10 by making it easier for everyone involved to get bills of lading, sanitary certificates, customs releases, invoices and other necessary documents, Wieck said. Before blockchain's swifter processing, a "container spent more time in the ports than in the ocean" when shipping flowers from Mombasa, Kenya, to Rotterdam in the Netherlands, she said.

Blockchain lets cooperating companies or people share data -- sales transactions or property records, for example -- on a shared network of computers. The information is distributed across all of them instead of isolated on just one, an idea called a shared ledger, with encryption technology writing the data to all the systems in an ever-lengthening series of interlinked blocks.[

Blockchain bakes trust into transactions because a single database eliminates some he-said, she-said disagreements that ordinarily crop up when multiple parties are trying to reconcile two separate databases. Encryption technology ensures that transactions really are between the parties involved.


The blockchain idea grew out of bitcoin and stores transaction data for all other cryptocurrencies, too. But much of the enthusiasm for blockchain is from its use in other domains, everything from voting and lotteries to ID cards and graphics rendering.

Blockchain skeptics
Still, blockchain has plenty of detractors who think of it as a solution in search of a problem.

Vint Cerf, one of the creators of the internet, tweeted a photo of a flowchart for tackling the issue. The top box in the flowchart states: "Do I need a blockchain?" A single arrow points to another box: "No."

The chief executive of Western Union, a partner in a high-profile blockchain money-transfer project from startup Ripple, said in June that so far, "it's still too expensive."

But TradeLens shows there's enthusiasm, too. Among its 94 partners are shippers Pacific International Lines and Hamburg Süd; customs authorities in the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Australia and Peru; and port operators in Philadelphia, Hong Kong, Rotterdam, Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Bilbao, Spain.

IBM rival SAP, a business software maker and another blockchain fan, said that the reality of blockchain is that it's not a get-rich-quick scheme.

Blockchain is a business network, said Gil Perez, SAP's senior vice president of products and innovations. "It is critical for multiple companies to come together and agree on a business process, which is lengthening the adoption of blockchain in the enterprise," he said.

SAP has a blockchain project for shipping, logistics and customs, too, and it's working with partners including the US Customs and Border Protection agency and shipping company UPS.

Logging a million events per day
That work is in the proof-of-concept stage. IBM's TradeLens service is part of IBM's early adopter program, but it's up and running in the real world. It captures more than a million shipping events each day, 154 million in total so far.

"We don't see scalability as a factor at all," Wieck said.

TradeLens for now has been a closed partnership, but that's changing. "We're anticipating opening up general availability for anybody who wants to join later this year," Wieck said. Cryptocurrencies use public blockchains, which means anyone can operate a node on the network and contribute transactions, but TradeLens uses a more restrictive "permissioned" approach with some controls on participation. It maintains the core blockchain idea of distributing data across multiple servers, though.


Also Thursday, IBM opened a programming interface that will let other companies' computer systems interact with the blockchain. IBM charges for access to the TradeLens, offering it online as software as a service and sharing revenue with founding partners.

IBM has found it's needed to make course corrections with TradeLens -- for example, in the types of documents stored on the blockchain and the "onboarding" process to enlist new partners. But when done right, the blockchain greases the wheels of commerce.

"When there is real transparency to all data on the chain, you have less disputes because everybody has seamless visibility," Wieck said. "We feel very comfortable about the model having value for the different types of participants."  

https://www.cnet.com/news/ibm-maersk-tradelens-blockchain-alliance-cuts-shipping-times-40-percent/

"Blockchain makes everything better!"

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Looks like we finally have real world application based data on what blockchain's long term potential is. Its nice to see some actual results based on evidence rather than the vaporware back and forth discussions we've seen where some may have been a little overly optimistic towards blockchain's potential. While others may have been a bit too closed minded and unwilling to consider potential for improvement in software based systems. Sometimes the real example falls somewhere in the middle between optimism and pessimism and perhaps that is what we're seeing here.

That said I'm not certain blockchains major contributions in this case are being reaped so much as the advantages are based on data sharing. I wonder if we'll ever see a block diagram, flowchart or visual model which would help the average joe to appreciate the progress and innovation being made here on a more explicit basis.
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