Topic: Icebreaker - Hashfast Employee? (Read 6230 times)

Lots of developments on the scammer, definitely worthy an update! I'll just quote portions of my caveat-posting from my signature here:

iCEBREAKER hasn't been active since Christmas. Also, he has posted in this thread.

Ice hasn't posted on this thread, has he? Bizarre since he posts heavily on other ASIC mfrs threads.

Agreed. I haven't been following this that closely. I was just amused that people were associating 'testing' with 'shipping'. It's a step, yeah... But you test to find bugs. Sometimes you do.

That was the 7th when the first board rolled off a high speed production line. The 23rd is when they said "batch one" was being tested. A reasonable person would tend to think the entire system is being tested and not just the simple PCB after 2-3 weeks.

*A* board was being tested; not necessarily their production board.  Not going to make any claims about their schedule or whatever, but you usually test something to look for problems.  I guess we'll see what they do.

Except that it was said that batch one was being tested. Batch one meaning the collective amount of the entire order.

The board was being tested long before this.
http://ow.ly/i/3Xrbt

+1.  It's funny how many people forget what testing means...

Maybe they had the boards, then during testing they found that they were unstable.

Hey you remember this? Good times. So batch 1 was being tested, but now you don't even have the pcbs for batch 1?

Ok... and you wonder why some of us don't trust a single word out of your lying mouths. Fucking bunch of idiots, thanks for exposing my personal email address as well.

well, i haven't seen him in any threads i lurk - maybe he's slacking eh?

I think it has to do with the unbelievable amount of effort wasted trolling/harassing any hashfast competitors thread.

If someone actually pays this idiot to troll all day I would be surprised.

i see the word "shill" tossed around these boards a LOT. what if a customer purchases a miner and just "really" wants his company to be legit? it's hard not to defend a company you've given $K's to. does one immediately jump on the conspiracy theory train after making a purchase or is it possible customers did some diligence prior to purchasing? im confused because these shill accusations are just over the top.

I've invited Mr. BREAKER to identify himself.

Sometimes I've wondered— when we've had really extreme over the top "shills", like in this case— if they really weren't double-secret shills pretending to shill just to make their love-object look repulsive. I guess intrigue seldom goes that deep in reality, but its something to consider.

Irritating in any case.

And you have, if only everyone saw your warnings

Fact is I never lied, always told the truth, performed my due diligence including reading terms and conditions and setting up alerts on companies I was following to track changes they made to Ts&Cs when I saw something amiss and was by and large always right. I never bet the farm, and haven't lost my money to foul play, or fraud. None of my predictions were proven false, and my integrity is in tact, on top of which I now get to work in an exciting industry and most people are pleased to meet me. That said for those that hide behind a persona, or shaft people in what is still a relatively small industry find themselves unwelcome. Greed blinds, and apparently few have the foresight to adopt a longer term view, or believe that time forgets and there will be fresh lambs to the slaughter. Not cool, I never understood why no one wanted to build a long term business, for me that just highlights how little belief those individuals really hold in Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency revolution.

I know it's laborious to read the fine print, but when it comes to things like pre-orders, nothing paints a clearer picture of a company than the contracts they chose to bond you by, and the accountability they wish to assume, or avoid...

Sorry ears were burning, back on subject...

I also find his absence interesting.  He gets called out for being Eduardo the CEO of Hashfast and he claims I'm harassing him and disapears.

As a consumer I don't know what has offended me more, that a company would use underhanded aggressive smear tactics in this way, or that they would deliberately lie and misrepresent their timeline/refund policy.

If I had an ownership stake in one of the other mining companies (Active mining, KNC, Cointerra etc.) and this had been done towards my company, I would be pressing charges and seeking restitution.

Where did iCEBREAKER go? Always bet on ice? When you're gone I can't even place my bets anymore.

Accusations of Bitcoinorama or Cypherdoc and others have popped up as threads before, interesting to see how Hashfat_CL responded so quickly and aggressively against iCEBREAKER's thread, no? No relationship at all beyond ice being an early investor of icedrill? We can see what a person is both by what he does and doesn't do- and through this incident I think it is safe to infer that HashFast has been monitoring this subforum and thread closely, and failed to respond to any customer complaints for months while pushing full on for ice on the drop of a hat.

Changed ToS, delayed substrates, a few more days, twitter and forum propaganda (Why propoganda? Because the intent is to mislead, as repeatedly proven by later timeframes), Saturday shipping, we promise! Oh, MMP? There's an afterthought, we'll deal with that later Smiley Now nothing yet. Now the official stance is hey, we never promised shipping in October, suckers! We've always promised in tiny little fine print end of the year! Tell me, do you fucking read Apple's ToS every iTunes update? People out of habit trust companies that seem professional, and in August everything clearly stated shipping in October, but what Hashfast has displayed since then is unprofessionalism and more false marketing. This thread as of now has 166k views. For all guests and new customers, please, please, please do your due diligence before buying any mining hardware. Think logically, and sift through all the bullshit on this freedom of speech forum we have here.

What have you achieved since inception? Four batches of unshipped BabyJets, Four batches of unshipped Sierras, unknown and murky MMP, constant updates on developments but delays in the actual marketed shipping times in such a time crucial industry. What value do you have as a Bitcoin Mining company? Your products are neither the most powerful, the most cost efficient, lowest Gh/W. What are you standing on?

And CL, how.. how can you have quotes such as "Bitcoin enables ordinary people to fight back" when you yourself are perpetuating the opposite? Oppressing customers that have placed their trust in you? Perhaps you are just a cog in the machine, the soldier in a massacre, it's your job and you're just following orders. But look at this situations, evidence, and facts- there is no community liaison between this subforum and Hashfast. Only an one sided voice while the other fumes and clings and claws for any bit of information for hope, for hopes of salvaging the thousands in dollars they placed for a nice Bitcoin Mining Machine.

Always bet on ice? A good rule of thumb might be to do everything opposite

User accounts should never be shared, this is security 101 and a little thing called "Non Repudiation".

The case is still 21.5" tall, which when mounted sideways would be too big to fit in a 19" rack.

for rack mount use, airflow needs to be one way.  most data centers will only allow equipment to be used that conforms to their 'hot aisle' and 'cold aisle' plan.

a desktop pc case, can't easily be modified to get the airflow going one way.  its got fans all over the shop.   its not impossible, but its really pointless.   you would be much better off if you just took out the hashfast mobo and cooling system, and re-mount them in a rack mount pc case.

-- Jez

Agreed. I would distance myself from Icebreaker if I worked at HashFast. Having someone run around and launch personal attacks on your customers is not someone to be associated with.

Frankly it would probably be easiest to just transplant the innards from the babyjet to a rack case. If the modules are worth is the 50btc just move them to a case that fits your needs. 

I think the bigger obstacle is not knowing the power load.  Most data centers need to know the load so they can be sure their UPS system can handle it all or if they needed additional capacity. Also for billing obviously.

Thanks for the correction.  It's refreshing to discuss custom hardware in the 'Custom Hardware' sub for a change.

I find it hard to believe icebreaker is associated in any way to HF.. If anything he is a paid shill from a competitor. Nobody makes HF look as bad as icebreaker does.

The Baby Jet will not be able to be modded to be rack mounted. It may be possible with other cases, but not the one used for Baby Jets (I think its a corsair 750D). It is too wide to fit in a standard 19" rack. In addition, the radiator is mounted in the top of the case, if it was mounted in a rack the hot air would pool between it and the adjacent rack.

*sigh* another ninja statement.

Seriously? You're just going to pretend the "Saturday shipping" quote was never said? Let me refresh your memory again.

Will you ever answer all the refund questions? How are people who paid a bitcoin price in bitcoin going to be reimbursed?

Yes, we anticipate delivery in the next 9 days or sooner.  Otherwise refunds will be issued.

Batch One is currently being tested.  All orders are being sent overnight.

If you are trying to host your BabyJet at a colo that only accepts rackmount, there may be an adapter capable of converting the ATX desktop to rails.

This is what I found:

http://www.pelco.com/sites/global/en/products/analog-systems-controls/range-presentation.page?p_function_id=10505&p_family_id=10505&p_range_id=5553

Any Custom Hardware gurus reading this, please weigh in.

Best,

-HF_CL

How about this one?


What's John got to say now?

So all your orders will be shipped and delivered in the next 9 days, with a major holiday happening in the middle?

Actually, the 'important thing' is the stated delivery date of October 20th, not the hidden ex post facto TOS ninja edit of December 31st.

Please don't try to sell it as if you guys are on track for delivery when in fact your customers have all been swindled.

That post is from early August, before we had even taped-out and when things were a lot more quiet.  It states the earliest anticipated shipping date at that time.  Since then the anticipated delivery date window has been narrowed based on subsequent events.

Several HashFast execs use the main account (John, Simon, Eduardo) so I'm not sure which one wrote it.

The important thing is what the TOS states as the guaranteed delivery date, which for Batch One is Dec 31.

Best,

-HF_CL

i dont believe icebreaker is eduardo either (though it wouldve explained a lot if it was)

Icebreaker is just a grade A IceHole with a huge chip on his shoulder.

While being an icehole, in itself.. is annoying but not technically against the rules...  the way he goes about his attacks, bullying, baiting and harassment of people and companies.. and then complains when it finally happens to him... is really immature.  it wouldnt shock me if he was just a kid (or very immature kidult)

So this is him?


He's got plenty of time to make promises, on the forums, but when it comes to answering for those promises, he's "too busy"? Gotcha.

Regardless of his current location, Eduardo is far too busy testing Batch 1 to be posting on internet forums.  That's why I'm here.

When he did post, months ago, he used the main HashFast account.

"Ice"breaker is an early "Ice"drill investor.  Icedrill is using HashFast ASICs, so it gets confusing!  

VE... It's time to come clean.


Out with it.

Then please tell us... which of your employees is icebreaker?

Claiming that he is in Canada is hardly proof.  Last time I checked, they had "the internets" there.

Spoiler Alert:

_{Eduardo is in Canada testing Batch 1 and has always used the main HashFast account to post here.  He's not Icebreaker.}

All you have to do is read icebreaker's post history.  The way Hashfast_CL came to his defense only solidifies it in my mind.

IMO D&T needs to update his creative pickaxing instructions to include sandbagging competition under a chickenshit alt account.  Other than that, he had it pretty much spot on.

Why don't you guys worry about shipping product, which will make most of your customers happy.

Alternatively, you could post a public response to the question about how refunds will be issued, either in BTC matching original payments as promised in the past or in some other arbitrary amount?

I also reported dhenson's Eduardo harassment post for being off-topic, which it is.

Is it forum policy that anything goes, unless reported?

I checked the sub-forum rules you wrote, but the only relevant thing I found was this:


Doesn't this thread, which has more to do with investigation than "Custom Hardware" violate that rule?

Just look in your direction and you go flying across the court. Well played flop, iCEBREAKER!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flop_%28basketball%29

That troll is gonna claim stalking when someone suggests he is eduardo the "I seen it on TV" guy?? hahahahaah. That's hilarious.

I split this off the CoinTerra thread because it's not really relevant to CoinTerra.

Hashfast_CL reported dhenson's post above for "stalking", but if it is really the case that Icebreaker is an agent, investor, etc. in Hashfast it would be very interesting to the many people here who his conduct has irritated and would potentially be material information in future litigation undertaken by hashfast customers.

However, I don't think the speculation will do anyone good at least not when it elevates itself to becoming unfounded accusations.

There are some forum members who claim privately to have uncovered some tremendous revelation, I hope they make their results public so that people have no reason to speculate.

 

Anyone else find it interesting how ice responded to my accusation?



I postulate that he is in fact Eduardo, and he claims that he's being harassed and that I'm issuing personal attacks...  How would this be a personal attack and/or harassment if it wasn't in fact him?

Put the purse down, faggot.    

Stalking is a form of harassment.  What else would you call it?

That's rich... your being harassed.

lolz

Your stalking, harassment, and personal attacks are completely off-topic. 

But I won't hold my breath waiting for the mod to take action, despite the fact he wrote this:


Wading back on topic, has anybody heard if CT's bumpout finished on schedule today?

My bet is that Eduardo = icebreaker.



That guy has sleaze written all over him.

You're getting warm, but not quite.

How much is HashFast paying you to troll competitors' threads?

pretty backwards isnt he

This isn't a good sign for Hashfast customers. Their shill is trolling Cointerra's thread talking about refunds when he should be in the Hashfast thread reassuring customers.