Topic: ICO ICO ICO ICO ICO everywhere ICO BUBBLE? (Read 2470 times)

I could be wrong but I did some "research" recently and it seems Bancor is just a rehash of Bitshares, except Bitshares has been running for three years now.

so this is the fun part..... people dont want regulations and want things to be decentralized.... and there you go this is what happends in the real world, a group of people can setup a shiny website, attent some conferences, make a white paper and tell everybody they wanna achief something and a huge group of people are dumping 150mil to a group with no product claiming 50% of the ICO, so yeah im sure they can sit in an office for the next 5-10 years and just relax and go try out something and see what happends. I hope they proof me wrong but it seems weird just like status changing the rules of the ico a couple times just to get more money, GREEEEEEED

well you cant blame people investing in the most retarded ICO's since every alt got pumped with or without news, or without a proper dev team, its pure greed and if they wish to dump profits on the most retarded projects that shout things like DECENTRALIZED BLABLABLABLABLA, like fore instance.... decentralized webhosting...... FUCK OFF as if somebody wants parts of the code shattered around on some strangers computer. really this market has a long way to go and there are only very very few projects that deserve to survive whenever we crash.

so i guess at the next bubble we see more ICO's and idiots funding every single projects because..... PROFITSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

i hope the guys from bancor and status run off with all the money! HAHAHA

and what is even more crazy is that there are even double ICO's like suretly or cindicator but no one gives a fuck
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Hi, I'm Mike Brusov, CEO and co-founder at Cindicator. Our token generation event hasn't got any correlation with Starta's ICO. We don't digitize our shares - we are developing infrastructure tokens for traders and investors to get access to our technology, signals and products.

If you have any other questions - you could ping me via email ([email protected])

Despite the many new ICOs there is no bubble imo. It is just that there are a lot of great new ideas being created on the blockchain technology. I think we are only at the very beginning of all this.

Is this kind of fairpump?
New style fraud, in my opinion.
There is no reason to believe a website like this.

This so called "ICO BUBLE" worries me and doesn´t. I´ll just point to worriesome points for me:

1: Excess ICO´s and poor projects in ETH smart contrats can hurt the market and REALLY hurt ETH. If people start reallizing that that eth smart contracts are often scams or poor projects that could hurt the overall perception about them and in the end ETH itself.

2: About tokens again: Any start up is realizing a token. Sometimes i understand the use of the token but other is just crowdfunding and in the end the HODLERS will HODL nothing. Example: project for shared work space and a token. It the end the project is a success, but the token is useless because it is not needed to rent or buy the spaces.

Don't worry too much... I read the old posts in here and the pattern was similar on Bitcoin, ICOs and pumps and dumps. These are all terms used in the past, and they hurt a lot of people. The pattern is only repeating, but if the coin is strong, it will recover.

I've been through the NXT asset bubble - on a smaller scale but very similar.
I realized a lot of dynamics, that I wasn't aware of at the start. Especially noobs won't know. For example: If you buy ICO shares, they will be denominated in Ether, but that's deceiving. It's not Ether anymore. You sold a crypto and you bought a company. 99% of all companies will grow slower than cryptos will. You essentially set your money on a slower horse.

Next one: ICO-companies must sell their Ether. One of them just got $200 million? Well, that will essentially create a $200 million sell order of Ethers. So if they do, you just hurt the crypto you like. If they don't, then you just invested in an badly led and irresponsible company. Because should Ether fall, they would lose their funds and they can't operate anymore.

This might not be the moment yet, but at some point a huge downward dynamic will start. Smart companies will sell. Users will notice the price drop - sell the Ether they have left.
Dumb companies notice what's cooking - they start to sell to save what they have left. Now users get panicky - but all their funds are locked up. They want to flee Ether, but can't. They panic-sell assets. Lots of companies will fail - either they have no funds anymore, or their tokens are junk stocks now. Possible promised payoffs of the projects are often years away.

A lot of misery awaits. I just hope it won't hurt the crypto space in general too much. 

We will see later if it is bubble or not. Right now things are developing so fast, we can't judge by present time. A lot of newcomers invest these ICO's and a lot of oldtimers look skeptical. We don't know yet but I hope it's not a bubble. So everybody can make some more money.

Imho, at the moment there are lot of ICOs Ethereum-based. Most of them are raising more funds that they currently need.
BUT not all of the ICO are bad and over-hyped.

We just have to find those few that have a good project, a clear vision of what they want to achieve and invest in them. Personally I prefer the medium-long term, instead of the "quick bucks", so I buy and hold

This Ico seems not to be a bubble

www.Cryptobot.tech

One of the better Icos

There are promising projects which are raising good amount of money which could reach a good valuation at a later time,these new projects does not end with the collection of money and if they carry on with the proposed project then they will be making a huge amount of money for the investors and for the developers.

I think bounty hunters are selling after ICO.
People who invested are probably holding tokens for longer time, so in my opinion yes, if you invest you should hold long - if you want to make quick money than don't invest at all.

I think ico bubble is just the Ethereum problem. maybe Waves will have them too in next year. Other coins will be ok than.

no don't do long term with ico, it's too damn risky, look at lisk, the value will never increase again like in the prime day, it's dead stuck there, and make the coin useless, and lisk was one of the best ico imho, because it has DPOS, which make it worth holding some after the ico

ICO is like a field to grow Bitcoin, and it is proven that many investors are interested in ICO because once ICO is completed and launched in Market, they sell it for a higher price. After that the coin is discarded and worthless.

But can we really apply the same prediction of patterns to ETH or any other alt? Historical analysis is not long enough... 5 years maximum? That is nothing, so we can only predict if we assume it follows the same pattern as others with historical basis.

It differs every ICO so pick the ico tmyou think that have a big potential based on their projects .
Why you invest think of it for profit right ? If you are a smart investor you will invest rightly where you will earn .And if you do sell with those dumpers you may earn only a little .A smart investor will think for long term based on what he saw in the projects .
If you invest go for long term it is the great projects not a single profit .

This is not only case with ICO every coin lately had rise and those forgotten coins which chains are broken or in trouble hit best prices, behind all this you can find a whales..Then you know what you can expect next.  How to avoid this, easy just don't rush, take your time to investigate a bit. Also you must recognize situation and right timing when to exit and stay in $..

Its totally a bubble, but thats not to say you won't still find good projects. What is going to happen is the shit projects that got funded just due to a bubble will eventually become worthless while the good ones will grow bigger than ever in the long term. So if you have chosen the right coin you should hold it for a long time, if you haven't then best chance is to flip it during a pump.

You are absolutely right it is nearly impossible to follow all ICO. Some of them are just scam but there is also some ICO which is serious and good profit potential for the future and good investment instruments. It is not easy to understand sometimes which one is big expectations for the future and which ones are going to die in few months.

You are definitely correct. There is an ICO bubble, maybe specifically an ETH ICO bubble even.

Some of you are saying the bubble popping will bring down other alts too and I believe this is correct too.

I layered the Hofstra Bubble chart over ETH/USD today and a crash is surely imminent - look here: http://populicapital.com/website-launch-and-ethereum-correction/

Yes, the crypto ICO markets are red hot these days but it far from a bubble.
99% of the public does not even know beyond the names of bitcoin or Ethereum
much less own any cryptos. The market size at $110 billion is peanuts
compared to $100+ trillion global bond and stock markets.

Sure, there will be many scary corrections time and again but we're still at very early
stages in cryptoland.

From my perspective, as of now, this is not a real bubble. Because new people are attracted every day and they attemp to grab some tokens from new projects.

So this is probably not a bubble, but it will be soon after we reach saturation point.

I also have similar opinion that although it seems like bubble but isn't actually at all. It is a transition from traditional to digital era. More and more ICO are presenting solid ideas and big investors are showing interest and putting their money into them which is causing of all these huge increases and such record making market cap.

Because they will get the more bonus at the early phase of investment time. But some are trying to bet about the token price after it get listed on the exchange site and in my mind if all of that is purely speculation by the investors.
That's pretty strange to see the more non sense project gets successful.

global marketcap 110 bil, apple market cap 700 bil , wheres a bubble? this is a fast mass migration of economy

Investing in the ICO is like investing in stocks, but people are only interested in quick earnings and ICO allows them, the problem is that they are so much now and not all of them high, so the risk of failure or loss is much higher

You clearly don't understand with OP's question.
The reason why you want dump is because you are afraid if the price decreased below than ICO price, this is normal, this is one of risk when you invested in ICO. Just do research and invest in ICO which you think it could "survive" in longterm

you can see all ico success after listing to exchanger incraese over ico price
so all investor can get profit after buy ico

ICO gives opportunities to people, and yes, people will buy ICO then dump it after it hits all time high, that is what happening in every ICO. But who to blame? Crypto is unregulated, ICO is now a gamble instead of a bubble.

Sure Bitcoin will dump one day but in long term it will be the last coin which will survive. In 10years Bitcoin will be 10000USD

Sorry but I fear Bitcoin will also dump if the bubble bursts. Plus I expect fallout from Segwit so I'd prefer to wait this out on the sidelines without going into fiat. Any other options?

As long as a company has a fantastic product and is useful, ICOs will be safe.
Only crappy and scammy ICOs should be in a bubble

I think ETH will became victim of its ego and all tokens (ETH) collected through various ICOs will be dumped at some point probably in most difficult times, when start to sink under its weight. So at lest BTC will be spared from this misery i hope. I must also make a little disclaimer not all ICOs are bad..Some are really good projects such as STRATIS, KMD, NEOS..

Many investors looking for profits from their investment. So many are choosing ICO because once they listed in the exchanges the price of the coin will pump. People are not looking for the potential of the coin looking for profit and investing into ICO.

No, there is no bubble because for example 200M not invested in bancor's tech or whitepaper. It's invested in bancor hype and will be disappear fast.

People are jumping into ICOs on the hope that they can flip the same coins on exchanges and get twice or thrice the amount invested as profit. There seems like a bubble building but if those projects can develop a product in the coming months, it can be worth it. But I must say things are in a bubble territory right now. Be careful and do your research before investing.

Only invest in goog coins with real team and not in the new ICO´s.

For example DECENT, they will launch this month and the ICO was last year.
Thats good project. And not ICO´s based on ETH Token.
Everyone is able to create a ETH Token in some minutes.

Than you only need a cool looking whitepaper and sell those Tokens.

The only real vaulue has Bitcoin for me. All the Altcoin shit is just to get more and more BTC.

All this nonsense makes me think a crash is near, dumb money and big money (Asiam gamblers? Old millionaires?) just piling money into ICOs where it is obvious they often don't have a clue, see what happened with Status yesterday. Or the Bankor ICO based on a flawed coin. etc. etc. etc.

I'm currently looking into a way to preserve my capital without going into fiat, so if somebody has a good idea? Tether has some problems it seems.

and what is even more crazy is that there are even double ICO's like suretly or cindicator but no one gives a fuck

but be real? Some ICO are collecting over 200mil USD just for a whitepaper  

I am for example also invested in a ICO. But only in One and a real one. DECENT

But here it seems for me if everyone is jumping like a bitch from one to the other

It's not a bubble if new are coming in. It's a bubble when they stop.

Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.