Topic: Idea for a new kind of slot game - 3 player game - Take it and run with it :-> (Read 662 times)

I try to imagine playing a slot game, but it feels like to play crash. Maybe until the developer create that game, we can both try the new face of slot game

The house always WIN, yes, that is true. We can not deny that, and we don't have a big chance to win a big buck from them unless we have big luck to beat them. But still, no matter how big the percentage of the odds, we will hard to win

You cannot imagine that, because it is not something that I have seen out there yet. You might have experienced crash type games, where you have several players trying to stay in before it crash. This will be something like this, but not the same concept... only PvP built into Slot games.

The main difference here is this... The house always WIN their share in every game and there is a 3:1 chance that you will be the winner of any game you play in. ( A bit better odds if you compare it to other Slot games.. right? )

I can not imagine how it feels to play with another player in the slot game because I don't have that experience. Maybe some people will be excited to play the game because they can try to beat their opponent with their luck. Or maybe the game will be difficult to win since each player needs to have the luck to win. Maybe the developer thinks that slots are like what we see now, and they don't think that if they create a new interface will have a chance to attract more gambler to play.

Well you can have type off a "jackpot" for this kind of game, if you create a leaderboard for the players who win the most matches. You get 3 points for a win and 2 points for second spot and 1 point for a third position. The casino hosting the games can then set aside say $0.10 per per player per game played for a end of the week tournament prize. 

This type of game where you compete with other players can be good entertainment if you are bored with the normal Slot games.  There are 1000s of slot games out there and all of them are just putting a new interface on a old outdated concept. 

I understand the concept of the game OP wanted to see but I guess this will not cater much attention because people tend to bet on where they can get maximum gain regardless of the possibility.  That is one reason why slot is pretty much very popular.  Doing this kind of PVP type slot nullified this option (the possibility of a jackpot price) so I think, even it is very interesting game concept, it is bound to fail.

I haven't heard any casino that has a 2 player slot game maybe there's one that already existed but wasn't successful.

It depends on how the game is designed if it's fixed to three players it's still possible to reduce the required players to two by adding a bot as an extra player. Having more players in the game could be possible but less is always better since you want games to start right away unless they're time based.

I am not familiar with slot games hence basically I got couple of questions here:
1. Is there already 2 player based slots are existing? If yes, I guess there cannot be anything to be invented here if it is all about 3 or more players, right? If there is no 2 player slot machines, why jumped directly to 3 player slot by skipping 2 player slots?

2. By 3 players, I understood it is going to be P2P model which means betting on out come of pictures of slot machine or similar to that? If so, I guess it would be possible for hosting any number of players as well, right?

I am sorry for naive questions, after getting into crypto gambling I never bother getting into any new type of games except dicing. I love dicing ad which makes me not to touch any other gambling; hope many gambler must be here with same kind of attitude on dice and other games.

That's not half-bad considering that PVP games are becoming more and more anticipated on some gambling platforms. While the concept itself is good, I think there should also be an option where a single player can play against computers and the game is provably fair so that there is a slight insurance that the game isn't rigged in any way. But yeah, in the end this is still RNG and luck-based game but the potential is there. It just needs a bit of tweaking on the concept and the mechanism on how it would work and it's a good game.

The idea might be new but the system is just the same as playing dice, roulettes, slots, etc since the only difference is, gamblers will play at each other. Overall, these players will still rely on their luck. Adding players can't be considered too as competitive as, in the end, results will still depend on the site's provably fair.

Maybe a bit of change and not just relying on RNGs, game devs can think of a way to increase every players chance to win. I don't have an idea though on what specific thing/s can make it that way but a sort of gamblers will need to use a strategy to increase the chance of winning. It will bring more competitiveness and might catch more gambler's attention to play the game since, after all, they will not just depend on their luck to win.

But with these types of multiplayer games, it's difficult to implement as bots, cheats, and third-party programs that might infiltrate the site's system are just around. One more concern is, the site needs to be active in marketing to attract more players as waiting in a game room for only 2-3 players to start, and let's say it takes 5 minutes is not a good impression.

I thought the game is a competitive game which requires skills on driving the bike or other vehicle. If its just a probably fair system game then I believe it will not fall to a PVP category since the game is not based on player skills. It is just a simple betting game that price pot was accumulated to the player only. The only advantage I saw on this game is the chance of winning to 1:3 of your bet is bigger compared to normal sports betting like horse racing.

In general this is a good idea especially when casino set a low house edge per game.

Not necessarily. There were gambling sites out there (IIRC, CS:GO gambling sites) where the more money you put in the pool, the higher the chances were for you to win. You don't have a 100% chance - for example, if someone puts $950 and five more players come up with $10 each, that's a 95% chance for the first guy and 1% chance for the rest (this if we exclude house %, of course).

The guy with 95% chances of winning could easily miss once and lose it all to one of the 1% players. The problem is when "sniping" happens and someone comes in with a lot of money to take everything, although.. they do have a chance as well and it could go very wrong.

---

So basically each player will have a slot machine on his screen and they have to hit a "road combo" of 5 (or however many columns there are) in order to win, right?

Sounds fun to be honest, I've always preferred for example Blackjack in comparison with Dice because there's much more fun when you have other players with you in the session and bet "together". Haven't tried other PvP gambling games though, but they're fun for sure.

Guys and Gals...

Do not over complicate the game... You have 3 players putting up say $2 per game and the house takes for example $0.10 per player. So the winning pot is $3.80 (subtracted the winners bet of $1.90) - The bets can be any amount and the house can set the percentage to whatever they want to charge for hosting the game. (example 1% of the bet)

The house makes sure the slot game is provably fair between the players and you can have a active chat session between the participants to validate that they are human and not some bots. (here they can smack talk each other to hype up the game) 

Each game will only last a few minutes, because you will only have the 3 types of roads that needs to be matched... you can add space for 4 players or 5 players etc... if you want to make it more competitive and fun, but the more players you add... the longer the games will take. 

You are getting it now?

I think it's just 3 players placing their bets at the same time like poker where everyone buys in. Making the game pay to win is a bad idea it would be less attractive as the game will always be one sided.


That's not possible, usually these games can be compared to coin flips or other types of pvp game that's going to use a provably fair system. The only 3rd party app I could see being used here is like an auto bet.

Yup, slots without thousands of multipliers aren't fun!

Maybe this slot multiplayer game should be tweaked a bit:
- the players buy 10 dollars "feature" worth of 10 spins to play with other players;
- all players spin 10 times;
- the winner keeps his winning + other players winning.

Sounds like a good idea but then you have 3 players with equal amount to gamble with? Or does each turn at the game cost the players same amount of money for X number of spins? Like maybe have rounds that are PvP and have an entry fee and different tactics to use up the spins.

Otherwise this becomes a pay to win slot, right?

As a late slot player I think it will not work.In case you haven’t noticed this idea is missing what keeps slot players playing slots which is the ability to win a huge jackpot and I don’t see it implemented in this idea.Adding a jackpot win can make this idea appealing to someone so it can be started.

The most important part that I think, as a business owner of a casino, is the odds. If you consider everything, does the game benefit the owner in the long run? Just like the edge in casinos that make the owners make a lot of money. Having a P2P match would be hard at the start, and it would depend on the members playing on the site as well.

The idea of the game is not bad but would require a lot of marketing right now to get out there. The best thing is to create a feasibility study to make sure that you are on the right track or something.

we dont know maybe some already think about this concept before  but to some that didnt luckily they will be aware of it now , thanks to this thread  .

many slots that have same old designs already existed now and for sure people are already got bored on them too so its always an advantage if we can create something  new because people are going to try it too   .  for now i never see a head to head slot game but only slots with different game mechanics and graphics  .

Maybe the idea is new, but I don't think that the owner will think about that since what they thought about a slot game will be the classic design of slot that they know. If you want to build your gambling games, then you can apply your idea so your gambling site will have a different design than the other site. Maybe that can attract many gamblers to try to play the games, but once again, since the slot game is based on the luck, and the result will be the same image on one bar, then it might not attract many gamblers to play the game

How about instead of a player picking a road, it's instead completely random? There are 3 parts to it, with each lever pressed, the slots stop and so there are 3 types of road that was connected to each other. The system then randomizes a vehicle to pass through, and well, it then calculates whether or not it can actually pass through the road that was the result of the 3 players. If you want, you can make it so that after all the roads are finished, all of them is shown in all the player's screen (player 1 sees his and both player 2 and 3's road) so that they can see what is happening.

Is it skill-based? As far as to what I understood, the idea is actually just based on luck. You pull the lever and pretty much just pray so that your choice of road comes out.

Since it's using a "lever" it should be a provably fair right? In other words, it's like a slot machine but multiple players can play at the same time, a player vs player mode. The problem with that kind of betting is how fair it is. There is no way we can verify if all players on that specific room is a real human and not a robot. The reason also why we only see a few kinds of P2P gambling games.

The idea is good but I will only consider playing on that site if they are already well-established and reputable.


So here's the purpose?

For a new site, I doubt they will give you a credit for that idea. I think your idea is not new. It's just that you used the "road" as an example.

If it is already a competitive game, is it still to be consider as a slot game? This game is programmable because there is a lot of PVP game out there exist which has the similarity of concept like this.

The only problem when this game is used online, It can be cheated by a 3rd party app because the result is based on the skills of the player and not random compared to the typical slot.Just like playing an online PVP chess. Some player use cheat apps so that the bot will play for them in a flawless way.

The closest (and the most doable) thing to what OP described in his post is parimutuel betting which also freebitco.in uses in its casino.

The odds change depending on how much money wagered on each side of the bet and the house still takes its %5 no matter which side wins.

The downside is, these bets are not fast/instant like dice/slot games. You may have to wait for several weeks to see the result of the game/event.

On the other hand you may never get any opponents at all while playing OP's game.

I like the idea.

It will have its disadvantages because for each game to start you'll need a multiplayer of 3. So if 32 players join and start a game every hour there will still be 2 who will have to wait for someone to join their game and be stuck for a long time. It's not a big disadvantage but if you're unlucky you'll be the one stuck waiting.

For this reason matchmaking in multiplayer games may take more than 10 minutes each round even when there's 500 or more people playing at the same time.

Ok, if you create a standalone site like what the original Bustabit started out with, this will work better than incorporating it into a small gambling site with loads of games. I see Stake.com average about 2000 players at any given time, but the problem is some people are playing dice and others are playing slots etc.. etc.. so the amount of players playing a specific game will be reduced significantly. (getting the 3 players to join will be reduced, if you add 100's of games on a site)

I still think 3 player PvP games will be more popular and the house will have several of these games running at the same time, so they will get their fair share of the bets. (The larger the bets, the more they get)     

This game requires 3 players and all 3 players need to wager the same amount If I got this correctly.

That's also why it is not really going to work, I think.

I always liked the PvP style gambling though. It feels more alive than playing against the computer's random algorithm..

It might work on a crowded casino like PrimeDice and it is still a big maybe.

Ok all of us know the classic design of all standard slot games ... right. 



Ok now imagine you have 3 players competing with each other on 1 game. It works like this ....

1. The graphics are replaced by roads with different types and width. Each player decide before the game starts on what type of road it wants to build.

2. You place your equal bet and a percentage of the bet goes to the house. The winner win the other 2 players bet amount that remains.

3. Pull the lever and the slot machine is started. When your choice of road comes on the screen at the left of the screen, the computer lock it in place for that player in the first column. (Just below the slot machine graphics.)

4. The first player to complete his road from the left, all the way to the right wins and a car or bike drive on that road to indicate the win for that player. 

5. The money pot is added to the winners balance and the next round is started with the next 3 players.

Do you understand the game and do you think you can program a game like this? Well if you can, go for it... looking forward to see this kind of game.

Note: I am not paying or funding someone to develop this game. I just got the idea and I thought it would be a nice game to play.  If you done with this game and it is succesfull, feel free to contact me for my Bitcoin address and drop me a little donation for the idea.