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Topic: Identify official BAIKAL skype!!!! please help let more people see. (Read 11081 times)

newbie
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baikal not take care customer. I contract multiple channels to orders . email, skype, facebook not response.  Undecided
jr. member
Activity: 75
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Hi,
I contacted today via baikalminer skype.
I want you buy Baikal Giant B, today price is USD 3.500
This is original skype Baikalminer , i possible send USD 3.500 in BTC safetly ?
I will be receiving the Baikal Giant B ?
Thank you very much ?






There are alot of scammers for baikal. If that's the image of the skype you contacted then no, it's not them.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Hi,
I contacted today via baikalminer skype.
I want you buy Baikal Giant B, today price is USD 3.500
This is original skype Baikalminer , i possible send USD 3.500 in BTC safetly ?
I will be receiving the Baikal Giant B ?
Thank you very much ?

http://i64.tinypic.com/1zbe3i9.png
http://i65.tinypic.com/293k9sj.jpg

jr. member
Activity: 75
Merit: 1
The problem isn't getting the right skype address, it's getting them to actually respond.

Nevertheless, their new sales policy is 6 units minimum, so I'm looking for other people who don't want to risk over 40k on an order and want just one 1,2 or 3 to join together and buy a lot of at least 6 of the x10's . 
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
I just got a invoice from them 6. minimum order of 6, now I am patiently trying to get 5 other people to go in with me @ $9000 + shipping.
ill take 2 from you.
newbie
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I just got a invoice from them 6. minimum order of 6, now I am patiently trying to get 5 other people to go in with me @ $9000 + shipping.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Are there still pre orders available for the giant b 2nd batch?  Im not so sure which is their skype and never got any response back from emailing them.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Geez Baikal youre obviously not too concerned about everyone commenting how appalling your customer service is.

Just read some of these posts about how many potential orders you have lost.

I have now sent 4 emails, and numerous messages through Skype and not 1 response.

I am looking to purchase 10- 15 Giant B miners.

Looking like i will just go with Antminers, at least they respect their customers enough to get back to them.

[email protected]

 Angry
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Hello Everyone,
can anyone help me out how I buy Baikal Giant B , and where I go to make order.

copper member
Activity: 39
Merit: 1
Thanks for giving out your skype id..but I have a question..why your account has a low trust score here in the forum?
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
can BAIKAL officially confirm their bank details and company name for this lot ?

is it 15286467 @ BAIKAL HOLDINGS LIMITED  ? or what? or next time they will tell as many people wrote on the forum it was scam and it wasn't our account? what the hell is going on with all this baikal sales?
sr. member
Activity: 337
Merit: 250
Hey,
I gave up from the order.
I'm sorry, sounded to fishy for me. Everything around it, and I've been scammed enough times on the internet to know better.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
I got the Same account information.  Checked and I am pretty sure that I have the correct Skype.  Also, I emailed them first and they responded.  My problem I am having is that my bank (First national bank SA) does not pick up the address correctly of the recipient bank.  Basically if I search the swift code it comes up with a few different options.  I can see the correct address and the correct Bank/Branch code, but they do not line up.  My bank say they are not sure.  Any help?
sr. member
Activity: 337
Merit: 250
guys, today I got email from [email protected] and they are selling the giant miner,
they gave me a bank account details to pay in $.

Is this legit?

https://i.imgur.com/e9aQxPh.png (I spoke with them on skype)

Their invoice bank account starts with 152...

This is in the email (among other things):

"Bank info for payment please check from attached file. (Payment comments please write your name ). Quotation only valid for 2 days since we send this email.
 
When you made the payment, please must provide the payment voucher and the passport of the Remitter, If paid from company account, please provide the copy of its business license, for identifying your payment. All files will be deleted as soon as we send out your parcel."

I never ever had to send a passport scan. Seems kinda odd. :/
Thanks
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1656
is there a place where you can go and physically purchase Baikal miners ?
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 251
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 10
your skype name is publish as baikalminer and you have to take responsible if your client being scam.
so un professional bisnes. why just you put an order form on your site to avoid people being scam by the fake
skype account

They don't have working license in china so what do you expect? They don't have official documents of their products so that we can't take them into the custom. Never expect a professional job from them. If you get your hardware, count yourself lucky.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
your skype name is publish as baikalminer and you have to take responsible if your client being scam.
so un professional bisnes. why just you put an order form on your site to avoid people being scam by the fake
skype account
sr. member
Activity: 370
Merit: 250
lol they sent me an email that was cc'd to over 100 email addresses so thanks for disclosing my email to 100's of other people and I still don't know how they sell their miners to people. Just let people add them to a damn cart and buy it with BTC or LTC all this broken English and badly sent email telling you to use Skype is total bull shit. Huh Huh Huh Tongue
Can't figure them out at all.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 251
Amen to shadyness then  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 370
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//Why is everything so mysterious and shady with everything Bitcoin related Smiley

Which group of people founded Bitcoin ? UNKNOWN

Who are the people called Baikalminer company that make the best BTC mining chips ? UNKNOWN

Don't these questions bother people that invest their entire net worth into crypto currencies. I'm genuinely curious... If there is something remotely resembling a One World government, it's not too difficult to infer that they want to eliminate fiat currency both because of better control and also because the USA and by association the EU (except for a few member states) are both bankrupt and will have to massively devalue / restructure their currencies.//


I highly agree with you, 99% of everything crypto is shady or appears shady.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1656
Why is everything so mysterious and shady with everything Bitcoin related Smiley

Which group of people founded Bitcoin ? UNKNOWN

Who are the people called Baikalminer company that make the best BTC mining chips ? UNKNOWN

Don't these questions bother people that invest their entire net worth into crypto currencies. I'm genuinely curious... If there is something remotely resembling a One World government, it's not too difficult to infer that they want to eliminate fiat currency both because of better control and also because the USA and by association the EU (except for a few member states) are both bankrupt and will have to massively devalue / restructure their currencies.

 
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 251
How hard is to have one of those Baikals? The site looks broken, they are always out of stock and the price is not shown! Huh

The site works and a price is shown but also the mention "out of stock".


A number is shown but currency is not specified.

It's USD.
sr. member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 305
Duelbits - $100k Bonus/week
How hard is to have one of those Baikals? The site looks broken, they are always out of stock and the price is not shown! Huh

The site works and a price is shown but also the mention "out of stock".


A number is shown but currency is not specified.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 251
How hard is to have one of those Baikals? The site looks broken, they are always out of stock and the price is not shown! Huh

The site works and a price is shown but also the mention "out of stock".
sr. member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 305
Duelbits - $100k Bonus/week
How hard is to have one of those Baikals? The site looks broken, they are always out of stock and the price is not shown! Huh
HR
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1011
Transparency & Integrity
They should be focusing on developing their customer service, communication and PR skills not the god damn facebook page.

They should have focused on manufacturing just a few more units!  Cheesy

This has all the hallmarks of a bankrupt outfit that's so indebted and/or poorly run that they can't even get new investment capital (in spite of have a first class product - but the window on that is probably running out fast as well) that is resorting to scamming to keep paying for the toys.

I wouldn't have anything to do with anyone Baikal related at this point - not even a third party selling on Ebay - just write it off as an impossibility at this point.
legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
hi all ...

our ceo is still having issues with locating the original baikalminer skype profile ...

even though i have it - there must be an easier way to add ( like a profile id from skype for example ) so that there is NO confusion ...

does anyone know where to find the exact profile id for skype profiles? ...

#crysx
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 251
They should be focusing on developing their customer service, communication and PR skills not the god damn facebook page.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
Baikal Lee ...Facebook now ..Deleted?

It's in the process of being restored. They have been refocusing on developing their public face.
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
Why do you resell your goods to aliexpress? Angry
Hi
Baikal Miner CUBE 300M (NO PSU) 0.77kg/1kg
US $ 1400.00-1600 / PCS
:'(Alibaba.com:
Supply Ability:1000 Piece/Pieces per Month
Port:shenzhen,china

Baikal Miner CUBE 300M X11 X13 X14 X15 Quark Qubit Miner 300MH/s 75W-91W DASH ASIC miner X11 Baikal CUBE 300M
FOB Reference Price:Get Latest Price
1 - 9    US $1199.00
10 - 19 US $1189.00
20 - 49 US $1179.00
>=50    US $1099.00
Supply Ability:500 Piece/Pieces per Day
Port:SHENZHEN Embarrassed Huh Huh Huh Huh
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 253
Baikal Lee ...Facebook now ..Deleted?
newbie
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any payments proof, details about scam from Baikal ?
Does anybody have the same ?
newbie
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Merit: 0
baikalminer.com is a CROOK and a SCAM (s or no s, they are all BULLSHIT)

I have been ripped off from baikalminer.com for $4676 and want you share my HORROR story so hopefully you don’t end up getting ripped off.  STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM BAIKALMINER.COM !!!  After weeks of research on Google and Youtube, I thought the Baikal Miner would be a good investment mining Dash coins at 300 MH/s using only 75 Watt of power.  Boy was I in for the biggest SCAM and RIPOFF and RIDE of my life!!!  After one month of Baikal Miner hustling and scamming me, he stole $4676 and I am now stuck with a defective Baikal Miner Cube.  I am now still SHOCK and SO DISGUSTED of these people!  This is why they don’t accept credit card or paypal.  Just bitcoin, dash or ethereum.  I don’t think there is any recourse or any way you can get the coins back from these people!

On April 11, 2017, I pulled the trigger and sent baikalminer 0.7216068 BTC which equals to $876.02 USD.  These people are very difficult to deal with and very slow to respond on email.  Worst, they only take bitcoin and they are located halfway around the world in China.   So this made me very concern.  8 days later on April 19, the unit arrived at my home.  I emailed Baikal on what power supply to use and they won’t recommend which power supply to buy or send me an ebay or Amazon link, they just said 12V 10A.  I searched on Google, Amazon and ebay and end up buying 3 power supply from Amazon and ebay.  The first P/S came home the end plug was too big and did not fit.  Then a couple days later the two P/S I ordered on ebay arrived and this one fit.  You would think spending $876 on a little box with a fan, heatsink and circuit board they would include a P/S.  The box did not come with any manuals so I had to google to find the CUBE.pdf manual and figured everything out myself.  When first powered up and log in with the default password baikal, the miner show down.  It looks like they still have their dash wallet address on there.  I setup an account on coinmine.pl and dash.suprnova.cc and added my account and dash wallet address to the Baikal Pool page.  Doesn’t matter what I do, the miner still show down.

On April 24, 2017, I emailed [email protected].  The following day, they email back ask me to skype them.

Hi,
Thank you for your email.
Please contact us via skype in order to deal your business more effectively.
Our skype account: “baikalminer” (no more other letters or characters)
You can check the following link for your information: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/identify-official-baikal-skype-please-help-let-more-people-see-1804508
We will take care of your request as soon as we get the message from skype.
Best regards,
Baikal

On Skype, they did not offer any technical support or troubleshooting at all.  They kept on insisting I download and read the CUBE.pdf file.
http://www.baikalminer.com/cn/down/CUBE.pdf  Their support is shitty!  Then they wanted me to ship the unit back at my expense to repair it.  I wasn’t happy at all!!!  To make me happy, they offered a Quad unit at a discounted price.  The miner cube is $800 + $76 Shipping.  Total is $876.  Quad is 4 miner cube so $800 x 4 = $3200.  I already paid for the first miner cube so I just need to pay for the difference of $2326 and I have to ship the defective unit back.  I wasn’t happy paying more at a full price when I already received a defective unit.  So they offer 5% discount + free shipping + power cable at $2166 more + $876 I originally paid.

>4/25 Ok I will deduct the same so that you can pay the shipping price from your end for that cube.
>4/25 3196-870 = 2326$
>4/25 But you have to ship the product to us.
>4/25 Does it make you happy..
>4/25 Ok as this is our fault we give the 5% + free shipping and power cable = 3036- 870 = 2166

On April 27 and 30, 2017, I sent them $2150 to upgrade to a Quad Cube ($900 in ETH and $1250 in BTC).  As of this date, I have sent them
$3026.02.

On May 1, 2017, they offer me two baikal quads for $2400 instead of instead of $3400 .

>5/1 Ok after lot of considerations in your case we feel like the fault is from our end only.
And to do the compensation for that if you are interested we ship out two baikal quads in which you have already paid for one and for the second one we give you 25% off + free power cables and shipping. So you have to pay 2400$ instead of 3400$ I this this makes you a happy customer.
What do you say.?
>5/1 This is only one time offer please don't consider this discount in future just to make sure you should be happy we are offering this and please post this any where in social media.
As people will start bargaining..
This offer for you also only once from next time please don't ask us as definitely we don't give any offers anymore.
Definitely you don't need to worry this time as I personally test the products which we are going to send you.


>5/2 Hello my friend we have received your payment
But we had an issue with our financial tem.
In the morning our jr accountant accepted that you can pay 1600$ later but from afternoon we had so many discussions and our Sr accountant is not agreeing for more than 1000$ credit to a customer and blaming me for giving such credit after 25% discount.
Some how I managed by telling that customer lost a lot because of the machine problem and managed to give you 1200$ or with huge extra offer.
Because we consider the money which we get before the shipping and after shipping we always will be having 50:50.

Case1) pay 1000$ and pay nothing except shipping the old product.
So here for second quad you will be getting 3400-1600 = 1800$ total to pay(800 already paid and balance 1000$). Close to 47% off on total for the second machine.

Case 2) pay 400$ now and remaining 1200$ after shipping.

This is just to make sure that it is fine at least we don't make profit but we should not lose money by selling.
We sell our products through out the world and you are an individual customer for us.
I hope you understand our Sr accountant concern.
Please think for a while and let me know which case suits well so that I will proceed and also please be hurry so that tomorrow morning hours I would like to ship them. Thanks.

On May 2, 5 and 6, 2017, I sent them a total of $1650 in BT and ETH.  After sending them the last payment, they said to me on skype “Hi my friend please contact us via email for the confirmation. thanks.” And this is when the HORROR begins.  I email them at [email protected] and they just pay dumb and said they never received my $$$ BTC and ETH. 

05/02/17 Paid $800 BTC
05/05/17 Paid $550 ETH
05/06/17 FINAL payment $300 BTC

baikalminer.com and all other baikalminer web site and all of the baikalminer on skype are the SAME people.  They will hustle you in sending bitcoin, dash coins or Ethereum coins.  They will steal your coins and you cannot do anything about it like me!  I am very unlucky and very stupid to trust them!  DON’T buy anything from Baikal Miner or any other web site or anyone on Skype.  They are all the same people.  I will attached screen capture of my skype conversion with Baikal Mining and emails so you can read for yourself and share with families, friends, co-worker and the mining community.  I FEEL SO SICK INSIDE.  These people have stole $4676 of my hard earn money.  VERY VERY SAD!  Don’t know what else to do.

Danny
full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
www.baikalminer.com
I have been ripped off from baikalminer.com for $4676 and want you share my HORROR story so hopefully you don’t end up getting ripped off.  STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM BAIKALMINER.COM !!!  After weeks of research on Google and Youtube, I thought the Baikal Miner would be a good investment mining Dash coins at 300 MH/s using only 75 Watt of power.  Boy was I in for the biggest SCAM and RIPOFF and RIDE of my life!!!  After one month of Baikal Miner hustling and scamming me, he stole $4676 and I am now stuck with a defective Baikal Miner Cube.  I am now still SHOCK and SO DISGUSTED of these people!  This is why they don’t accept credit card or paypal.  Just bitcoin, dash or ethereum.  I don’t think there is any recourse or any way you can get the coins back from these people!


Sorry to hear this.

I was surprised when you come to about scamming and after I checked out we have had successful cooperation before. Please make sure you were talking to the right person? and please show us the direct evidence if you think we SCAMMED you! also we have sent you the link that will directly link you to this topic by email.

We did feel sorry about your experience, and we respect your freedom of speech. But it is not fair and infantility to blame oneself's mistake to others.

You have so much time to do this boring thing, shooting us with no this nonsense reason, why you don't focus on those people who actually sacmmed you?


full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
www.baikalminer.com
Hi,


Can you confirm that this is the correct skype?

Just updated my post to make it more simple and clear. you can back to first page and check again. Smiley

newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
I have been ripped off from baikalminer.com for $4676 and want you share my HORROR story so hopefully you don’t end up getting ripped off.  STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM BAIKALMINER.COM !!!  After weeks of research on Google and Youtube, I thought the Baikal Miner would be a good investment mining Dash coins at 300 MH/s using only 75 Watt of power.  Boy was I in for the biggest SCAM and RIPOFF and RIDE of my life!!!  After one month of Baikal Miner hustling and scamming me, he stole $4676 and I am now stuck with a defective Baikal Miner Cube.  I am now still SHOCK and SO DISGUSTED of these people!  This is why they don’t accept credit card or paypal.  Just bitcoin, dash or ethereum.  I don’t think there is any recourse or any way you can get the coins back from these people!

On April 11, 2017, I pulled the trigger and sent baikalminer 0.7216068 BTC which equals to $876.02 USD.  These people are very difficult to deal with and very slow to respond on email.  Worst, they only take bitcoin and they are located halfway around the world in China.   So this made me very concern.  8 days later on April 19, the unit arrived at my home.  I emailed Baikal on what power supply to use and they won’t recommend which power supply to buy or send me an ebay or Amazon link, they just said 12V 10A.  I searched on Google, Amazon and ebay and end up buying 3 power supply from Amazon and ebay.  The first P/S came home the end plug was too big and did not fit.  Then a couple days later the two P/S I ordered on ebay arrived and this one fit.  You would think spending $876 on a little box with a fan, heatsink and circuit board they would include a P/S.  The box did not come with any manuals so I had to google to find the CUBE.pdf manual and figured everything out myself.  When first powered up and log in with the default password baikal, the miner show down.  It looks like they still have their dash wallet address on there.  I setup an account on coinmine.pl and dash.suprnova.cc and added my account and dash wallet address to the Baikal Pool page.  Doesn’t matter what I do, the miner still show down.

On April 24, 2017, I emailed [email protected].  The following day, they email back ask me to skype them.

Hi,
Thank you for your email.
Please contact us via skype in order to deal your business more effectively.
Our skype account: “baikalminer” (no more other letters or characters)
You can check the following link for your information: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/identify-official-baikal-skype-please-help-let-more-people-see-1804508
We will take care of your request as soon as we get the message from skype.
Best regards,
Baikal

On Skype, they did not offer any technical support or troubleshooting at all.  They kept on insisting I download and read the CUBE.pdf file.
http://www.baikalminer.com/cn/down/CUBE.pdf  Their support is shitty!  Then they wanted me to ship the unit back at my expense to repair it.  I wasn’t happy at all!!!  To make me happy, they offered a Quad unit at a discounted price.  The miner cube is $800 + $76 Shipping.  Total is $876.  Quad is 4 miner cube so $800 x 4 = $3200.  I already paid for the first miner cube so I just need to pay for the difference of $2326 and I have to ship the defective unit back.  I wasn’t happy paying more at a full price when I already received a defective unit.  So they offer 5% discount + free shipping + power cable at $2166 more + $876 I originally paid.

>4/25 Ok I will deduct the same so that you can pay the shipping price from your end for that cube.
>4/25 3196-870 = 2326$
>4/25 But you have to ship the product to us.
>4/25 Does it make you happy..
>4/25 Ok as this is our fault we give the 5% + free shipping and power cable = 3036- 870 = 2166

On April 27 and 30, 2017, I sent them $2150 to upgrade to a Quad Cube ($900 in ETH and $1250 in BTC).  As of this date, I have sent them
$3026.02.

On May 1, 2017, they offer me two baikal quads for $2400 instead of instead of $3400 .

>5/1 Ok after lot of considerations in your case we feel like the fault is from our end only.
And to do the compensation for that if you are interested we ship out two baikal quads in which you have already paid for one and for the second one we give you 25% off + free power cables and shipping. So you have to pay 2400$ instead of 3400$ I this this makes you a happy customer.
What do you say.?
>5/1 This is only one time offer please don't consider this discount in future just to make sure you should be happy we are offering this and please post this any where in social media.
As people will start bargaining..
This offer for you also only once from next time please don't ask us as definitely we don't give any offers anymore.
Definitely you don't need to worry this time as I personally test the products which we are going to send you.


>5/2 Hello my friend we have received your payment
But we had an issue with our financial tem.
In the morning our jr accountant accepted that you can pay 1600$ later but from afternoon we had so many discussions and our Sr accountant is not agreeing for more than 1000$ credit to a customer and blaming me for giving such credit after 25% discount.
Some how I managed by telling that customer lost a lot because of the machine problem and managed to give you 1200$ or with huge extra offer.
Because we consider the money which we get before the shipping and after shipping we always will be having 50:50.

Case1) pay 1000$ and pay nothing except shipping the old product.
So here for second quad you will be getting 3400-1600 = 1800$ total to pay(800 already paid and balance 1000$). Close to 47% off on total for the second machine.

Case 2) pay 400$ now and remaining 1200$ after shipping.

This is just to make sure that it is fine at least we don't make profit but we should not lose money by selling.
We sell our products through out the world and you are an individual customer for us.
I hope you understand our Sr accountant concern.
Please think for a while and let me know which case suits well so that I will proceed and also please be hurry so that tomorrow morning hours I would like to ship them. Thanks.

On May 2, 5 and 6, 2017, I sent them a total of $1650 in BT and ETH.  After sending them the last payment, they said to me on skype “Hi my friend please contact us via email for the confirmation. thanks.” And this is when the HORROR begins.  I email them at [email protected] and they just pay dumb and said they never received my $$$ BTC and ETH. 

05/02/17 Paid $800 BTC
05/05/17 Paid $550 ETH
05/06/17 FINAL payment $300 BTC

baikalminer.com and all other baikalminer web site and all of the baikalminer on skype are the SAME people.  They will hustle you in sending bitcoin, dash coins or Ethereum coins.  They will steal your coins and you cannot do anything about it like me!  I am very unlucky and very stupid to trust them!  DON’T buy anything from Baikal Miner or any other web site or anyone on Skype.  They are all the same people.  I will attached screen capture of my skype conversion with Baikal Mining and emails so you can read for yourself and share with families, friends, co-worker and the mining community.  I FEEL SO SICK INSIDE.  These people have stole $4676 of my hard earn money.  VERY VERY SAD!  Don’t know what else to do.

Danny
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100
Not sure what is going on...got a random Skype from Baikal last night after I tried to place an order.  This is the legit Baikal Skype with no extra markings.

The message was in much better English than normal and stated, "Sorry don't want to be a bother but I believe it is Friday morning over there right now and wanted to catch you just in case you happen to find stock and if you did, we could do what needs to be done before the weekend."

newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
Why do you resell your goods to aliexpress? Angry
Hi
Baikal Miner CUBE 300M (NO PSU) 0.77kg/1kg
US $ 1400.00-1600 / PCS
:'(Alibaba.com:
Supply Ability:1000 Piece/Pieces per Month
Port:shenzhen,china
sr. member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 487
YouTube.com/VoskCoin
Hi,

Sorry for not doing this timely. This is BAIKAL. www.baikalminer.com

For preventing people from scaming by scammer in skype, here are some hints

Search from skype by inputing "baikalminer", you may find this:


Well, other accounts not so trustable, only the third one. Then, Look another image---〉



Officla baikal skype is "baikalminer", not "live:baikalminer". There is no other letters.



I hope more people can see it so no people will be scamed!  By the way, if you are not sure, you can also identify by sending email to our officel email address: [email protected]


Here's a update after a call with a kind man. he helped us!  Smiley



Best regards
Baikal





Can you confirm that this is the correct skype?

Also I am receiving this message when I email them?

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: dns; wmx.ecounterp.com. (14.63.214.157, the server for the domain baikalminer.com.)
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.1.1 <[email protected]>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
sr. member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 487
YouTube.com/VoskCoin
Hi,

Sorry for not doing this timely. This is BAIKAL. www.baikalminer.com

For preventing people from scaming by scammer in skype, here are some hints

Search from skype by inputing "baikalminer", you may find this:


Well, other accounts not so trustable, only the third one. Then, Look another image---〉



Officla baikal skype is "baikalminer", not "live:baikalminer". There is no other letters.



I hope more people can see it so no people will be scamed!  By the way, if you are not sure, you can also identify by sending email to our officel email address: [email protected]


Here's a update after a call with a kind man. he helped us!  Smiley



Best regards
Baikal





Can you confirm that this is the correct skype?
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that was i scared of ... scam dash scryptocurrency and now hardware scam to ...
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I have contacted Baikal directly to there official e-mail many times before & reported my fears of getting scammed by those thief, & then they send me to this forum & saw & read all what you are experiencing. The only & best thing to be done by Baikal Miner Company is to get there Skype account verified & marked by Skype management by the verification mark as being genuine & verified " there are some legal paper work to be submitted ". This better than keeping there potential buyers (us ) for a chance to being theft , especially the newbies who does know anything about the current situation .
 
Now , letting this small issue " easy to get verified by Skype" out there , means either they are stupid & inexperienced to solve; OR they are accepting this " which I hope i am to wrong about it " .  

Best Advice, make you are order directly through there website , avoid any orders through the Skype account until it is verified & make you contacts  through their formal e-mail only & do not give you  personal data on the Skype account . One small tick i did after i got a price quotation  for my shipping costs to my country; was that i requested them to send me by e-mail their the address payment ; they claimed that the site has some problems & can not send any e-mails .

Finally , i hope by writing my article on the forum ,  I making enough pressure in Baikal management to make a quick action to protect the new buyers & their reputation . I even noticed that there old website design & the new design are also not secured ; our personal date & delivery address maybe at risk too & easy to be stolen by hackers from the site .

Thank you

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Hi,

Sorry for not doing this timely. This is BAIKAL. www.baikalminer.com

For preventing people from scaming by scammer in skype, here are some hints

Search from skype by inputing "baikalminer", you may find this:
http://i.imgur.com/xpDT81v.png

Well, other accounts not so trustable, only the third one. Then, Look another image---〉
http://i.imgur.com/ubXjIki.png


Officla baikal skype is "baikalminer", not "live:baikalminer". There is no other letters.
http://i.imgur.com/YNbP8m3.jpg


I hope more people can see it so no people will be scamed!  By the way, if you are not sure, you can also identify by sending email to our officel email address: [email protected]




Here's a update after a call with a kind man. he helped us!  Smiley
http://i.imgur.com/FydhbA8.jpg


Best regards
Baikal

Generally I cheated.Friends in no case do not send via Skype and there.
Вообщем меня обманули.Друзья не в коем случае не посылайте по скайпу там мошеники.
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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor.  Cool


Quoting yourself doesn't make u right.
What exacly are u basing this price increase on because their website displays the same price as before.


You disagree? You have other prices? Can you find an individual Baikal for less than $1,000? A quad for less than ~5 times that? Even on e-Bay? Why don't you do your homework before asking others to do it for you?

https://fr.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170324055125&SearchText=baikal+mineiro
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-Miner-Baikal-150M-40W-DASH-miner-/201639484575

The individual miners were sub $500 and the quads around $1,800 just a month and a half ago.

And if these are the prices being asked by those who still have stock to sell, do you think Baikal is really going to send you a unit for $300?

You want to talk to someone reputable in the States? Try here: http://deepinthemines.com/index.php?rt=product/category&path=43_74

You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.







People are trying to sell them for that price but people are not buying them.  I've seen the same ones on ebay since the price increase.
The most expensive sale I knew completed was £2,000 for a quad which is really high compared to Baikals manufactor price but like any business model it's supply and demand and you're gunna pay more to a middle man.    £2,000 still got an okish ROI compared with a BTC miner calculated at the top of the Dash spike so I can see how that sale happened.  They just didn't expect a price drop or gambled the price was gunna keep going.   

I think the x11 community of miners have their eyes more open in terms of ROI experience than a BTC complete newbie and wont fall for paying the silly prices that are floating around the net at the moment.  If you do know anyone paying £10,000 for a quad let me know...(based off a mini on ebay costing £2,500 lololololol)

Just a note on these skype scammers.  They tried it on with me too but I thought it all sounded to shady so I dropped baikal direct emails. 
I must say I am not a fan of how Baikal have reacted - to just point out the correct skype address is a bit poor.  I consider the fact Baikal have just made a new website so why not make the whole payment thing an easier better experience?  I mean by having the site calculate shipping etc and give you a total and a payment address (like bitmain website) This would have killed the scammers off and solved the problem.    If the webite does that then I retract the statement - I missed the stock so I wouldn't know,  just judging by the amount of ppl talking about skype scams.

I agree with everything you said and would just add that the lack of communication about current/future production/stock on Baikal's part makes things look even fishier. Very strange indeed considering that the product works quite well. Maybe they have financing problems? Maybe they're just shady characters? Who knows? But it's not very businesslike.

It also looks like they're now asking 799 for a single unit: http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11

And they only take payment in BTC, LTC or DASH so you've got to trust them since there is no way you can prove having paid.  Sad
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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor.  Cool


Quoting yourself doesn't make u right.
What exacly are u basing this price increase on because their website displays the same price as before.


You disagree? You have other prices? Can you find an individual Baikal for less than $1,000? A quad for less than ~5 times that? Even on e-Bay? Why don't you do your homework before asking others to do it for you?

https://fr.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170324055125&SearchText=baikal+mineiro
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-Miner-Baikal-150M-40W-DASH-miner-/201639484575

The individual miners were sub $500 and the quads around $1,800 just a month and a half ago.

And if these are the prices being asked by those who still have stock to sell, do you think Baikal is really going to send you a unit for $300?

You want to talk to someone reputable in the States? Try here: http://deepinthemines.com/index.php?rt=product/category&path=43_74

You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.







People are trying to sell them for that price but people are not buying them.  I've seen the same ones on ebay since the price increase.
The most expensive sale I knew completed was £2,000 for a quad which is really high compared to Baikals manufactor price but like any business model it's supply and demand and you're gunna pay more to a middle man.    £2,000 still got an okish ROI compared with a BTC miner calculated at the top of the Dash spike so I can see how that sale happened.  They just didn't expect a price drop or gambled the price was gunna keep going.   

I think the x11 community of miners have their eyes more open in terms of ROI experience than a BTC complete newbie and wont fall for paying the silly prices that are floating around the net at the moment.  If you do know anyone paying £10,000 for a quad let me know...(based off a mini on ebay costing £2,500 lololololol)

Just a note on these skype scammers.  They tried it on with me too but I thought it all sounded to shady so I dropped baikal direct emails. 
I must say I am not a fan of how Baikal have reacted - to just point out the correct skype address is a bit poor.  I consider the fact Baikal have just made a new website so why not make the whole payment thing an easier better experience?  I mean by having the site calculate shipping etc and give you a total and a payment address (like bitmain website) This would have killed the scammers off and solved the problem.    If the webite does that then I retract the statement - I missed the stock so I wouldn't know,  just judging by the amount of ppl talking about skype scams.
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Quote
You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.


Well u should try and look in the mirror every now and then with that attitude buddy.

Baikal prices are Unchanged you should have said you where only talking about your local distributors.

Baikal still accepts Payments In BTC LTC AND DASH.

So you are spreading disinformation.

Don't bother responding you are on Ignore now.

My "local" distributors? Hello? Anyone home? Did you even look at the URLs I posted? It's very global unless you think the U.S., Europe and China are "local".  Cheesy

Oh, and the "disinformation" you refer to? Would that be the INFORMATION you would have seen had you looked?

ArE yOU A bAIkAl sOck Or jUst A fAkE nEws fAn?¿¿¿¿


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Clueless!
on the baikal skype just ask them to send you an email from [email protected] etc

they do so promptly....also it is on the main baikalminer web page exactly if you don't trust my directions...

usually someone is there

not sure if it is just sales or if they do tech support would be great if it was tech support Smiley

(again i did not get one ...,lurking here to work one..but what i've found out)

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You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.

[/quote]

Well u should try and look in the mirror every now and then with that attitude buddy.

Baikal prices are Unchanged you should have said you where only talking about your local distributors.

Baikal still accepts Payments In BTC LTC AND DASH.

So you are spreading disinformation.

Don't bother responding you are on Ignore now.


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too bad it seems that even if you choose the correct logo, inside you can get scammed also, i had an example where by talking with one of the chinese, he said that the other chinese, which i meet always in that same chat, might be an impostor, because he was charging me way too lo for a a-900 giant, so be carefull, if they do a big discount they are scamming
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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor.  Cool


Quoting yourself doesn't make u right.
What exacly are u basing this price increase on because their website displays the same price as before.


You disagree? You have other prices? Can you find an individual Baikal for less than $1,000? A quad for less than ~5 times that? Even on e-Bay? Why don't you do your homework before asking others to do it for you?

https://fr.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170324055125&SearchText=baikal+mineiro
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-Miner-Baikal-150M-40W-DASH-miner-/201639484575

The individual miners were sub $500 and the quads around $1,800 just a month and a half ago.

And if these are the prices being asked by those who still have stock to sell, do you think Baikal is really going to send you a unit for $300?

You want to talk to someone reputable in the States? Try here: http://deepinthemines.com/index.php?rt=product/category&path=43_74

You're welcome, but this was a one-timer for you. I don't respond twice to lazy people with attitudes.



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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor.  Cool


Quoting yourself doesn't make u right.
What exacly are u basing this price increase on because their website displays the same price as before.
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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool

Hi all,

Just an update, the Baikals have now more than tripled, and the quads have risen by 600% +. A little nuts considering that you could buy 8 individuals for the price of one quad now. That "bubble" pricing. Totally illogical. And those are the prices coming out of China!

Again, Caveat emptor.  Cool
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but Baikal is the only one who is producing ASIC miners for X11 / X13 / X14 / X15 / Quark / Qubit?
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Hi , from when baikal is out of stock ? ... i check it everyday , i m bored , and about to think they'll dont have new stock a day
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I'd be very careful buying directly from Baikal. Before they accepted only BTC and now it looks like only DASH. Either way you have no way of proving that you made payment. You HAVE TO TRUST them! That's no way to do business.

Best thing to do is to buy from a distributor who let's you pay with PayPal or credit card - so you have record of having paid.

You might even need proof of purchase if your order gets held up in customs!  Shocked

There's a lot that can go wrong, and with everyone who still has stock having doubled the price per unit in the last few weeks, it's somewhat strange that Baikal is still offering units at 300 USD equivalent.  Roll Eyes

Caveat emptor.  Cool
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FAKE BAIKAL?? ORIGINAL BAIKAL??  I THINK IS ONLY A SCAMP


It is a scam. baikal people have their needs.
 sometimes they need money for weekend
and then the explanation for all is that you talked to the wrong person and swore that the thief wasn't the original Baikal  Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/x11-asic-baikal-mini-miner-spec.8932/page-16#post-117806
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Its look like Bikalminers have a assembler in India also.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asasa-1666724
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very helpful, and add insight about the world of scams, so scary. perhaps by giving information about this will minimize the trapped scams.
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Just a heads up:

The user that was legit (the real user according to the original post, has changed its name.

I ordered one Giant last Friday while the user still had the contact info for Baikal, just like the picture here said. I also sent an e-mail directly to the Baikal e-mail address to confirm that it was the correct user. I also got a confirmation by e-mail for the correct BTC address.

So I should hopefully be okay.


However, that same Skype user no longer has the contact information for Baikal. The user has changed the information to simply "mark david". Obviously, I wasn't talking to anyone called "Mark David" previously (I know because of the English) and I haven't gotten a response to my message that I sent to "him" today yet.

So be careful and hold off on contacting and buying from the Skype profile for a while! I will update this post and submit a new post if I get any more information.


To Baikal: You should absolutely look into this immediately!

Hi, apologize for causing this confusion. we have checked our skype and rewrite back with contact information.

And thank you nu1mlock for writting this notice, we always recommend everyone be careful when they decide to send money. It is so brazen for those guys who want to make money by this dirty way!

Anytime you can ask us for completing order by sending an email from our official email address: [email protected].

 Smiley Smiley
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lol what the hell is happening? Please sort it out already and bring in some fresh batch of miners too Cheesy btw it's 'mark david'
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Just a heads up:

The user that was legit (the real user according to the original post, has changed its name.

I ordered one Giant last Friday while the user still had the contact info for Baikal, just like the picture here said. I also sent an e-mail directly to the Baikal e-mail address to confirm that it was the correct user. I also got a confirmation by e-mail for the correct BTC address.

So I should hopefully be okay.


However, that same Skype user no longer has the contact information for Baikal. The user has changed the information to simply "mark david". Obviously, I wasn't talking to anyone called "Mark David" previously (I know because of the English) and I haven't gotten a response to my message that I sent to "him" today yet.

So be careful and hold off on contacting and buying from the Skype profile for a while! I will update this post and submit a new post if I get any more information.[/b]

To Baikal: You should absolutely look into this immediately!

Edit: They have replied and I am happy to announce that I was wrong. I was worried that their account might have been hacked but I am glad that is not the case.
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Hello to all!
I also came to talk to this guy!
Searched for baikalminer - and two identical profiles came up (or so I thought!).
Got into a conversation with him and he claimed I could buy 1miner each (1Giant+1quadruple+1Mini) at a time/per month.
Obviously otherwise it will be obvious something fishy is going on!
He claims that he will ship out the same day - which is quite tempting for everyone, isnt it?
Fortunately I didnt have enough BTC in my wallet - and I got this morning from the real baikalminer profile at skype the message they were out of stock.
I was shocked and instantanously wanted to know more. The fake profile of course said, dont mind - we are just limiting orders to one person at a time!
Beware everyone - and doublecheck your sources!

screenshot of fake skype profile>notice the live: and also note the missing telephone number!

http://atticacoast.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/baikal%20scam.jpg

Bytheway>
Watchout for another fake profile on skype: facebook:baikalminer  (description: ONLINE SALES www.baikalminer.com)
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Few minutes ago he/she wanted scammed me, pls see facts from skype:


[1:59:05 PM] levani sanaia: Hi baikalminer, I'd like to add you as a contact.
[2:00:20 PM] baikalminer: HI,
I can halp you ?
[2:00:32 PM] levani sanaia: hi, thanks for add
[2:00:46 PM] levani sanaia: are you miner factory?
[2:01:05 PM] baikalminer: Of course
[2:02:02 PM] levani sanaia: I am interesting with your miners, and I want buy
[2:03:19 PM] baikalminer: What model? How much?
[2:04:56 PM] levani sanaia: 40 mini or 10 quadruple,
[2:05:48 PM] levani sanaia: i saw your miners on our forums, people likes it Smiley
[2:07:50 PM] baikalminer: We can sell you now only 1 unit of personnel and 4 mini
[2:12:38 PM] levani sanaia: 1 quadruple and 4 mini?
[2:17:13 PM] levani sanaia: ok i want,
[2:17:28 PM] levani sanaia: wich info need you from me
[2:23:31 PM] baikalminer: Ok
[2:24:00 PM] baikalminer: we only accept payment in btc
[2:24:20 PM] baikalminer: OK, I will caculate the shipping cost for you
[2:24:31 PM] levani sanaia: ok
[2:25:37 PM] *** Call to baikalminer, no answer.
Send video message ***
[2:26:05 PM] baikalminer: 2500$ - 2.1313 btc
At the moment
[2:26:36 PM] baikalminer: 1 quadruple and 4 mini + Delivery = 2500$
[2:35:23 PM] levani sanaia: ok, please send me your btc adress to my email: [email protected]
[2:36:28 PM] levani sanaia: and i send you money directly
[2:48:18 PM] levani sanaia: are you here?
[2:50:51 PM] levani sanaia: inform me with you btc adress
[3:02:58 PM] levani sanaia: mother fuck
[3:03:00 PM] levani sanaia: bitche
[3:03:02 PM] levani sanaia: bitches
[3:03:06 PM] levani sanaia: (finger)
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The picture also more clear than the scammer.

leave your post, help more people to see it. thank you.
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Hi,

Here are some helping of how to find the right skype baikal account.

1) We only have one skype.
2) Logo is yellow pattern with black background.
3) our logo image is clear, not fuzzy.


When you searching "baikalminer" on your skype. you will find many scammers. Please simply right click that account before adding them, and click "View profile" and check its skype account.
**Official baikal account is "baikalminer", not "live:baikalminer" or "minerbaikal" or "sales baikalminer" or "baikalminers" or what ever. ** Please be sure youself understand this statements.

Or the safest way you can edit a code and send to our official email, ask us to copy that for you on skype.

Right one:




Scammer:





Best regards
Baikal
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