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UNICEF called Gaza “the most dangerous place in the world to be a child.”

This is very much true.
Irony is that the world is slowly forgetting the Gaza genocide. There is still voice for less intense Ukarine Russia conflict then for Gaza genocide.
USA and western countries which are very much concerned for human rights in the world are fully supporting genocide going on in GAZA.
While USA puppets in middle east like KSA, Jodan, Egypt are also with Israel.
There is very little support going to people in GAZA.

The world is not forgetting the things which are unfortunately going on in Gaza, in my opinion, all these days either Israel or Hamas have continued to be top trends in X/Twitter, so people still continue to discuss about this heartbreaking and senseless war in the Gaza strip, though I can agree that people is slowly becoming desensitized to what is going on.

Also, the Gaza conflict and the war in Ukraine sre continued to be featured in the news, specially the former one, because the huge humanitarian cost it has mean for inonnect people who cannot flee anywhere.

One could argue the only little support the people of Gaza has are those combatants in Yemen who won't allow ships to pass through the red sea. They are alledgely backed by Iran, so I assume Iran is indirectly supporting the people of Gaza.
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UNICEF called Gaza “the most dangerous place in the world to be a child.”

This is very much true.
Irony is that the world is slowly forgetting the Gaza genocide. There is still voice for less intense Ukarine Russia conflict then for Gaza genocide.
USA and western countries which are very much concerned for human rights in the world are fully supporting genocide going on in GAZA.
While USA puppets in middle east like KSA, Jodan, Egypt are also with Israel.
There is very little support going to people in GAZA.
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UNICEF called Gaza “the most dangerous place in the world to be a child.”
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The nature of USA is to stay far away while others fight. That is why this artificial country was created a little more than 200 years ago far away from all civilization. This also helped greatly in WW2 as most of the world was destroyed while US was untouched.

I'd say the beginning of proxy war doctrine is after the mess in Vietnam that brought USA to the brink of demise, seeing that mess US regime realized that it is incapable of fighting any war and not fall part. So the decision was to fight wars through proxies as much as possible.
- The official strategy is under what's known as Nixon Doctrine which is basically US giving everything to any third party who would fight for United States, as long as they are the ones doing the fighting and dying not Americans. The most recent example is Ukraine where "US fights Russia to the last Ukrainian" as many of their officials have already publicly stated too!
- The unofficial strategy is through militant groups which in West Asia means radicals like Al-Qaeda and ISIS as the biggest names that are globally recognized to smaller groups like the Kurdish terrorists including PKK, CPI, and others like KPIK, PRMI, ...

USA never attack a country who show them eyes, see example of North Korea or Iran. If you want to face USA then talk to them in language which they understand. Being defensive against USA means you are giving him space to come over you. I don't know how much fire power Iran or north Korea has but they always talk on basis of equality not accepting USA supremacy.
USA attack a country when its 100% sure that its weak enough to defend itself like Iraq or Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda and ISIS are USA created organizations that are either serving USA interest in regions or helping in USA achieving its interest.
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To be honest. I was not remotely aware of that information. I thought ISIS started as a split faction of Al-Qaeda, which sought to further reach the objectives of their former organization by more violent means and through the occupation of territory, contrary to what Al-Qaeda did, which as basically plan and carry out attacks, ISIS wanted to become a country, a caliphate. Though, I would still do my own research in regards of all of that. Whilere there has been precedents of the United States funding and training organization which ultimately transform in factions which go against them (how happened with Al-Qaeda itself). It would be desvatasting even for them to continue to pursue that sort of tactics and proxy warfare, in my opinion.
I was not even aware there could be former ISIS members amount those who are in the IDF. If True, then it is indeed sickening...
The nature of USA is to stay far away while others fight. That is why this artificial country was created a little more than 200 years ago far away from all civilization. This also helped greatly in WW2 as most of the world was destroyed while US was untouched.

I'd say the beginning of proxy war doctrine is after the mess in Vietnam that brought USA to the brink of demise, seeing that mess US regime realized that it is incapable of fighting any war and not fall part. So the decision was to fight wars through proxies as much as possible.
- The official strategy is under what's known as Nixon Doctrine which is basically US giving everything to any third party who would fight for United States, as long as they are the ones doing the fighting and dying not Americans. The most recent example is Ukraine where "US fights Russia to the last Ukrainian" as many of their officials have already publicly stated too!
- The unofficial strategy is through militant groups which in West Asia means radicals like Al-Qaeda and ISIS as the biggest names that are globally recognized to smaller groups like the Kurdish terrorists including PKK, CPI, and others like KPIK, PRMI, ...
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I never considered there was a chance for the UN actually give any recognition to ISIS/Daesh, specially since they were quite enthusiastic and straight forward in the intentions to capture as much territory as possible (even in Spain and Turkey) and also filming the massacre of innocent people for the sake of propaganda. No civilized organization would be or is supposed to give any minimum recognition to any nation behaving in such barbaric manner
I'm glad you put it like that because United States supported ISIS from its inception till its demise and beyond. From 2004 when US planted the seed for this terrorist organization in the country they'd invaded a little less than a year before until 2014 the US regime referred to ISIS as "protesters" specially when it came to ISIS members in Syria cutting people's heads off. I still remember the video of US government spokeswoman claiming that US should support these "protestors against Asad regime" and arm them, which they did!

Are you ready for the cherry on top? Here is a screenshot of the video showing the head of the terrorist organization Israel shaking hands with a takfiri terrorist which they have always been aiding and treating inside occupied Palestinian hospitals.
It's not a surprise that the remainder of ISIS terrorist cells declared war on Palestinian Resistance right after October 7 and then joined IDF for the Genocide inside Gaza strip.

To be honest. I was not remotely aware of that information. I thought ISIS started as a split faction of Al-Qaeda, which sought to further reach the objectives of their former organization by more violent means and through the occupation of territory, contrary to what Al-Qaeda did, which as basically plan and carry out attacks, ISIS wanted to become a country, a caliphate. Though, I would still do my own research in regards of all of that. Whilere there has been precedents of the United States funding and training organization which ultimately transform in factions which go against them (how happened with Al-Qaeda itself). It would be desvatasting even for them to continue to pursue that sort of tactics and proxy warfare, in my opinion.
I was not even aware there could be former ISIS members amount those who are in the IDF. If True, then it is indeed sickening...
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I never considered there was a chance for the UN actually give any recognition to ISIS/Daesh, specially since they were quite enthusiastic and straight forward in the intentions to capture as much territory as possible (even in Spain and Turkey) and also filming the massacre of innocent people for the sake of propaganda. No civilized organization would be or is supposed to give any minimum recognition to any nation behaving in such barbaric manner
I'm glad you put it like that because United States supported ISIS from its inception till its demise and beyond. From 2004 when US planted the seed for this terrorist organization in the country they'd invaded a little less than a year before until 2014 the US regime referred to ISIS as "protesters" specially when it came to ISIS members in Syria cutting people's heads off. I still remember the video of US government spokeswoman claiming that US should support these "protestors against Asad regime" and arm them, which they did!

Are you ready for the cherry on top? Here is a screenshot of the video showing the head of the terrorist organization Israel shaking hands with a takfiri terrorist which they have always been aiding and treating inside occupied Palestinian hospitals.
It's not a surprise that the remainder of ISIS terrorist cells declared war on Palestinian Resistance right after October 7 and then joined IDF for the Genocide inside Gaza strip.
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To be honest with all of you I was hoping Israel and Hamas could have agreed and reach a peace truce in time by the celebration of Christmas, so people in the Gaza strip could at least mourn their family members in peace and try to get something to eat, it is heartbreaking even those things do not seem to be possible to become a reality in the cruelty of war. I have seen so many pictures from Gaza (I am not sure whether they are manipulated/tampered with or not) which makes me further lose my faith in humanity and just wished to be oblivious about all I saw. Though, in moral terms, ignoring these kinds of happening are nor acceptable. It is only some of us who are not strong enough to bear the psychological burden of it.
While some of us are talking drinks and eating with families there are entire families being bombed in a minuscule are of land, what a dark place this world has become.


I would neve blame the IDF because they are doing and fighting to protect their citizens from further attack from the Palestine.
You mean IDF is protecting foreigners that are occupying Palestine against Palestinians who want to take back their homes? LOL

THANK GOD we dismantled ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Da'esh in Arabic) before UN recognized it as country like its sister organization Israel; otherwise you would have said the same thing about ISIS terrorists that "they are fighting to protect their citizens from further attacks from Iraqis and Syrians [who wanted to end the occupation and genocide]".

I never considered there was a chance for the UN actually give any recognition to ISIS/Daesh, specially since they were quite enthusiastic and straight forward in the intentions to capture as much territory as possible (even in Spain and Turkey) and also filming the massacre of innocent people for the sake of propaganda. No civilized organization would be or is supposed to give any minimum recognition to any nation behaving in such barbaric manner
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I would neve blame the IDF because they are doing and fighting to protect their citizens from further attack from the Palestine.
You mean IDF is protecting foreigners that are occupying Palestine against Palestinians who want to take back their homes? LOL

THANK GOD we dismantled ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Da'esh in Arabic) before UN recognized it as country like its sister organization Israel; otherwise you would have said the same thing about ISIS terrorists that "they are fighting to protect their citizens from further attacks from Iraqis and Syrians [who wanted to end the occupation and genocide]".
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Everyone has different understanding and opinion about what is happening in the middle east. I would neve blame the IDF because they are doing and fighting to protect their citizens from further attack from the Palestine. We need to make sure what we understand the reason why Israel is fighting back forcefully and not to be sentimental. Sentiments is what is causing hatred in the word because we would have to support our brothers because they first attacked innocent people and they got attacked and we begin to support them.

I'm going to move into your house and make your family's life a living hell. If you attack me then you are a terrorist. I have a right to defend myself by murdering your wife and children. Obviously, this is sarcasm but you are actually using this logic to defend Israel.

Anybody that believes Israel is an innocent victim is either completely clueless or a genocidal maniac. Zionists aren't our brothers and we don't have to be understanding of why they commit genocide. If they want to protect their citizens then they should stop indiscriminately murdering civilians. They should stop expanding their illegal settlements, displacing people from their homes, and stealing their land.
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As an American,...
Yeah, Flatten Gaza.
You should put your money where your mouth is. I've heard Marines Corp is hiring, maybe try joining the Delta Force LOL. Don't come complaining when body bags flood back though or an aircraft carrier or two sink to the bottom of the sea.
IDF is also hiring, I hear $6 million Merkava tanks are super safe and only 26 of them are being blown up every day in Gaza...
Everyone has different understanding and opinion about what is happening in the middle east. I would neve blame the IDF because they are doing and fighting to protect their citizens from further attack from the Palestine. We need to make sure what we understand the reason why Israel is fighting back forcefully and not to be sentimental. Sentiments is what is causing hatred in the word because we would have to support our brothers because they first attacked innocent people and they got attacked and we begin to support them.
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As an American, I know how they all acted in the gaza strip on 9/11/2001...

https://youtu.be/cqZBy09vCVk?si=4DfS8QKWCn_SgDeO

Yeah, Flatten Gaza.

None of them are innocent.

What about those who were born after the attacks in New York and did not have a say on what happened there, I am talking about people who are 22 years old or even younger by the way.
Aren't they innocent? Because if you asked me, I would say they are and do not deserve to lose their life or be displaced of their homes because of the actions of others whom they do not even know.

Those extrem standings are exactly the ones what only help to perpetuate wars and the suffering of children and teens, whom only sin was to be born in the Gaza strip.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv5s_VEmZd0

As an American,...
Yeah, Flatten Gaza.
You should put your money where your mouth is. I've heard Marines Corp is hiring, maybe try joining the Delta Force LOL. Don't come complaining when body bags flood back though or an aircraft carrier or two sink to the bottom of the sea.
IDF is also hiring, I hear $6 million Merkava tanks are super safe and only 26 of them are being blown up every day in Gaza...
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Spreading already debunked propaganda will only make you look bad. Even Israeli mouthpieces have already confessed that it was IDF that slaughtered people.
Now this is just depressing, I don't care what the argument that Israel has on attacking Palestine, they need to be eradicated once and for all, maybe find a new holy land and steal from another country like a parasite. Israel is doing what their oppressors back in WW2 have done to their people and they're not that broken up about what they're doing, now they're fabricating stories to support this unholy crusade that they're doing against Palestine. It's such a sad thing that this is their price for having to defend their so called "country", if they weren't the inventor of UZI and efficient spy network, they would've been gone a long time ago.
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As an American, I know how they all acted in the gaza strip on 9/11/2001...

https://youtu.be/cqZBy09vCVk?si=4DfS8QKWCn_SgDeO

Yeah, Flatten Gaza.

None of them are innocent.

Palestine has been under an oppressive occupation backed by the United States far before 9/11. By this logic, every single American citizen is complicit in supporting decades of apartheid and 9/11 is justified. The United States once again vetoed a ceasefire resolution. There is no act of terror, commited by Israel, awful enough that the US won't support. Killing babies, massacring civilians in hospitals, and assassinating journalists are all perfectly fine by American standards. Therefore there are no innocent Americans and calling for their destruction is a perfectly reasonable response if we're holding them to the same standards that you hold Palestinian civilians.
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So it's USA once again who VETOED cease fire resolution in UN Security council. Israel is doing all this because of USA backing and Israel can't survive a week in this region if he doesn't have USA survive.

Even Mehmood Abbass who is puppet of USA is saying that current genocide going on in GAZA is due to USA.

It's open terrorism and the world is watching silently.


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As an American, I know how they all acted in the gaza strip on 9/11/2001...

https://youtu.be/cqZBy09vCVk?si=4DfS8QKWCn_SgDeO

Yeah, Flatten Gaza.

None of them are innocent.
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.

For clarity's sake, Hamas is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is in control of the Gaza Strip. Wars are not declared by public opinion. I have never seen any country where the citizens are asked to come and vote on war issues. The planning and execution of the attack on Israel was kept secret from the public, so the majority of people in Gaza knew nothing about the attack on Israel by Hamas so you cannot generalise that Palestinians supported the attack on Israel. I don't think anybody would blame an average citizen for the war in Gaza.
I think think we have s that thirteen hostages which include Thirteen Israeli citizens and 11 foreign nationals have been released today as part of the process to release about 50 women and children Israeli hostages. I think this is the first stage towards a peaceful resolution of this problem. There is no need for name calling or accusation regarding the war, this way need to stop. We have had enough death, it is time to stop the killing and seek for peace.

I think he is speaking based on the news making the rounds that a Palestinian doctor, and a teacher kept hostages. This was made known by the released hostages.
So in essence Palestinian were actually working together with the Hamas militias to carry out their attacks.

One needs to make a clear differentiation between those who belong to the extremist terrorist organization and the rest of the population in Gaza. What you say is a very wide generalization of the events, in my opinion. Only because a teacher and a doctor helped to keep hostages in the Gaza strip, does not mean the bulk of the population are helping Hamas to carry out their terrorist plans. There is nothing which prevents a doctor to join Hamas or a teacher to join Hamas, there has been terrorist members both in Isis and Al-Qaeda who were highly educated people, even doctors among them.
There is also the possibility of Hamas forcing Gaza civilians to collaborate. The hostages may not be aware of it, because they would not understand their language, for example.

As much as I hate to generalize, it will be very difficult to differentiate between those that are extremist and the rest of the population because it is appearing that the rest of the population are accessories to these criminal acts, if not they should be outrightly condemning the acts of kidnap of innocent victims instead of keeping mute.
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If your family where to be among the people that was slaughtered by the Hamas, how ouod you feel.
Spreading already debunked propaganda will only make you look bad. Even Israeli mouthpieces have already confessed that it was IDF that slaughtered people.
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IDF tortures innocent children in prisons.

Seems like they're terrorist confirmed.

IDF activities is the same to terrorist no doubt, but sadly to say that they are attracted to bomb children and Women due to this is unexpected. IDF They can't give any reason why they are waging war, they are just killing common people., to call their activities terrorist.
If your family where to be among the people that was slaughtered by the Hamas, how ouod you feel. Would you preay for the killers of your fily to be brought to book? Since the Palestinians had allowed Hamas to use them as a means of attack against there neighboring countries then they deserve to suffer the consequences of the attack they are getting now.

The IDF is trying to bring the Hamas to book which are Palestinians. I will not support the attack on children and innocent people but this would happen because the Hamas are using children as a weapon of safety and now crying to the world to save them from the anger of the Israelites.
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Lately I have seen some accounts on Twitter/X, which belong to people who seems to be mostly pro-Israel in some way. They have been implying heavily that those children and babies which appear to be victims of the bombings by the IDF in the Gaza strip are actually dolls which are imported from China to be used to misguide and fool the international media about the colateral damage of civilians and innocent children.
Mostly, the replies to those accusations have been negative and people mostly lashes at them by calling them monsters and stuff like that.

To me, it is very creepy either way, the fact one cannot longer trust one's eyes (in the case the accusations are true) or the fact people who are pro Israel are willing to minimize the loss of life in such a disgusting way.

Has anyone of you have further information on those things? It has got me very concerned and curious since I read about it on Twitter/X.

Of course it's not true. There are crazy conspiracy theories about every horrific event that happens. Zionists have come up with the most deranged and implausible theories I have seen. Even Alex Jones' theories on the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting look sane by comparison. Zionist propaganda has been debunked over and over again so they come up with something even more unhinged to try and minimize or outright deny the sadistic nature of their crimes against humanity.
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.

For clarity's sake, Hamas is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is in control of the Gaza Strip. Wars are not declared by public opinion. I have never seen any country where the citizens are asked to come and vote on war issues. The planning and execution of the attack on Israel was kept secret from the public, so the majority of people in Gaza knew nothing about the attack on Israel by Hamas so you cannot generalise that Palestinians supported the attack on Israel. I don't think anybody would blame an average citizen for the war in Gaza.
I think think we have s that thirteen hostages which include Thirteen Israeli citizens and 11 foreign nationals have been released today as part of the process to release about 50 women and children Israeli hostages. I think this is the first stage towards a peaceful resolution of this problem. There is no need for name calling or accusation regarding the war, this way need to stop. We have had enough death, it is time to stop the killing and seek for peace.

I think he is speaking based on the news making the rounds that a Palestinian doctor, and a teacher kept hostages. This was made known by the released hostages.
So in essence Palestinian were actually working together with the Hamas militias to carry out their attacks.

One needs to make a clear differentiation between those who belong to the extremist terrorist organization and the rest of the population in Gaza. What you say is a very wide generalization of the events, in my opinion. Only because a teacher and a doctor helped to keep hostages in the Gaza strip, does not mean the bulk of the population are helping Hamas to carry out their terrorist plans. There is nothing which prevents a doctor to join Hamas or a teacher to join Hamas, there has been terrorist members both in Isis and Al-Qaeda who were highly educated people, even doctors among them.
There is also the possibility of Hamas forcing Gaza civilians to collaborate. The hostages may not be aware of it, because they would not understand their language, for example.
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.

For clarity's sake, Hamas is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is in control of the Gaza Strip. Wars are not declared by public opinion. I have never seen any country where the citizens are asked to come and vote on war issues. The planning and execution of the attack on Israel was kept secret from the public, so the majority of people in Gaza knew nothing about the attack on Israel by Hamas so you cannot generalise that Palestinians supported the attack on Israel. I don't think anybody would blame an average citizen for the war in Gaza.
I think think we have s that thirteen hostages which include Thirteen Israeli citizens and 11 foreign nationals have been released today as part of the process to release about 50 women and children Israeli hostages. I think this is the first stage towards a peaceful resolution of this problem. There is no need for name calling or accusation regarding the war, this way need to stop. We have had enough death, it is time to stop the killing and seek for peace.

I think he is speaking based on the news making the rounds that a Palestinian doctor, and a teacher kept hostages. This was made known by the released hostages.
So in essence Palestinian were actually working together with the Hamas militias to carry out their attacks.
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IDF tortures innocent children in prisons.

Seems like they're terrorist confirmed.

IDF activities is the same to terrorist no doubt, but sadly to say that they are attracted to bomb children and Women due to this is unexpected. IDF They can't give any reason why they are waging war, they are just killing common people., to call their activities terrorist.
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Lately I have seen some accounts on Twitter/X, which belong to people who seems to be mostly pro-Israel in some way. They have been implying heavily that those children and babies which appear to be victims of the bombings by the IDF in the Gaza strip are actually dolls which are imported from China to be used to misguide and fool the international media about the colateral damage of civilians and innocent children.
Mostly, the replies to those accusations have been negative and people mostly lashes at them by calling them monsters and stuff like that.

To me, it is very creepy either way, the fact one cannot longer trust one's eyes (in the case the accusations are true) or the fact people who are pro Israel are willing to minimize the loss of life in such a disgusting way.

Has anyone of you have further information on those things? It has got me very concerned and curious since I read about it on Twitter/X.
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IDF tortures innocent children in prisons.

Seems like they're terrorist confirmed.
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It's funny that they're calling themselves defense forces. How are they Defending themselves in Palestine? I wonder what would the Jews say if someone entered their home, sat down in the middle of it waited? They'd most likely try to throw that person out and then the person would take out a gun, kill every attacker and say they were defending themselves. Israeli logic...
I don't support Palestine either because you have to be insane to become a suicide bomber, or believe that there are virgins waiting for you in heaven, but let's not act like Israel is defending itself here.

Though, you must admit that what Hamas did back in October does not help their case or the case of the Palestinian people right to have a place to call home. The Israel government can easily argue they are defending themselves from Hamas, by going after the members of that organization in the Gaza strip, actually it is an argument which has been accepted to much of the people who supports Israel in this unfortunate war.
The name of a military organization or the mottos they use, in the end, may have little to do with the actual actions the carry out in the battle front, that is something I have personally learnt by studying the developments of the WW I.

One must have a clear idea between the differences of Hamas and Palestine.
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It's funny that they're calling themselves defense forces. How are they Defending themselves in Palestine? I wonder what would the Jews say if someone entered their home, sat down in the middle of it waited? They'd most likely try to throw that person out and then the person would take out a gun, kill every attacker and say they were defending themselves. Israeli logic...
I don't support Palestine either because you have to be insane to become a suicide bomber, or believe that there are virgins waiting for you in heaven, but let's not act like Israel is defending itself here.
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Finally there is some Ray of Hope for people of Gaza as Yemeni armed forces are capturing sea vessels belonging to Israel. They have till now 3 vessels in there custody. They recently released video of capturing seal vessels.
It's also a matter of shame for KSA leaders that they are neutralising missiles fired from yemen towards Israel.
Israel despite its so called strong army wasn't able to release its hostages by using force. There is a truce where 3 Palestinians were released for every 1 Israeli hostages. Its also shocking to see how satisfied and healthy Israeli hostages were while stories of Palestinians captives are unable to describe.
If Arab countries like KSA want to accept Israel then they must demand something for Palestinians first. Accepting Israel just for there own gain will be big betrayal for Palestinians.
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Having said that I believe that every country in this world owes it's citizens the  right of protection, so if an external force attacks them in their territories, they have the right to defend and respond in equal terms. So on that I can not blame the IDF for responding to the killings and threats on their citizens, because if they don't greater calamity from the enemy can befall on them.
Palestinians aren't an "external force" in their own country that is currently occupied! That would be like saying "Russia has the right to defend itself inside Ukrainian soil that they occupy like Crimea"!!!

Just like Russians have no right to be in the occupied lands in Ukraine, the Zionist regime calling itself Israel, doesn't have any right to even be in Palestine let alone use any force against the Palestinians (whether civilians or the armed forces defending them such as Hamas).

In other words the Zionists are the "external force" that are occupying the Palestinian soil and killing people of Palestine. According to the international law and the United Nations charter nothing can impair the right of Palestinians from using any means necessary to fight against the invaders that are committing genocide in their lands. Be it in occupied Palestinian lands like Quds or the semi-occupied regions such as Gaza and West Bank.

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Don't be on the neutral side, you're only helping the oppressors which is clearly the IDF

Don't you think taking sides is what has dragged this war on for so long? If everybody had condemned violent acts from the beginning do you think this war would be on today?

IDF attacks Palestine and Israelis and their supporters cheer.
Hamas attacked Israel and Palestinians and their supporters cheered.
And so the circle continues.

Israel has been an oppressor for long and they've had support from a set of people and countries. Palestine has also had support from certain countries and people. That is why the war will never stop.
I agree we shouldn't be neutral, when you're neutral it means you don't care, but we should condemn every violent and inhumane act committed by both parties.

IDF has to right to do what it's doing in Palestine.
We agree Palestine is the oppressed but because Palestine is the oppressed doesn't make it okay to kill Israelis because, at the end of the day, civilians will be victims.
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Hamas was never supposed to launch such attack on Israel, to be honest. Did they believe it would end up well for them and the people in the Gaza strip? If they thought so, then they are simply idiots. Specially since they aimed at civilians, they exchanged the future and the life of thousands of innocent people in order to brag for a successful and short attack in Israel territory.
To me, whoever was in charge of this attack had no sense of strategy or military actions in the long term. Unless Hamas expected Israel to get scared and surrender that attacked territory to Hamas? It would be pretty foolish to even consider that was a possibility. They have the support of USA...

This is a very sensitive matter for me because it involves the lives of innocent civilians who are being killed in a war where they are collateral damage. I don't like to take sides in a war, because in the end nobody really wins, as there are damages on either sides and the enmity can linger on for years. Having said that I believe that every country in this world owes it's citizens the  right of protection, so if an external force attacks them in their territories, they have the right to defend and respond in equal terms. So on that I can not blame the IDF for responding to the killings and threats on their citizens, because if they don't greater calamity from the enemy can befall on them. Only it's very unfortunate that in the process of driving their enemies, innocent citizens of Palestine, are victims of their defense mechanism. I hope that the war will come to an end soon, because of the innocent lives that are lost.
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And who told your this? Hamas?

The IDF objective is to eradicate Hamas.

How is assassinating US journalist eradicating Hamas?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Shireen_Abu_Akleh

Purposely targeted multiple civilians in a press vest. No charges pressed against the solider who violated international law [shooting unarmed civilians].

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> by dropping a bomb (metaphorically) in the media

https://rsf.org/en/rsf-files-complaint-icc-war-crimes-against-journalists-palestine-and-israel

Nah, actually they dropping real bombs on media.
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IDF purposely targets UN safezones. There are no Hamas agents within these safezones.

Their objective is to cause fear and terror in civilians. They're actual terrorists under international law.

And who told your this? Hamas?

The IDF objective is to eradicate Hamas.

The IDF objective is committing genocide and ethnically cleansing Palestine of it's native population. That's not according to Hamas, that's according to the Zionists themselves.

Here is convicted terrorist and Israel's current Minister of National Security Itamar Ben-Gvir celebrating along with Zionist settlers the burning of a Palestinian infant.
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1723739613125116299

Further down that thread there are many more examples of genocidal incitement and celebrations of the killing of children.

Here's a compilation video documenting Israel's racist abuse towards Palestinians.
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1712606372813066586

Currently, in the West Bank, religious fanatics are terrorizing and displacing entire communities with encouragement from Israeli government officials and with the military as their accomplice.
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/9/23945651/west-bank-israeli-settler-palestine-gaza-war-violence

It isn't very hard to find statements from Israeli politicians openly calling for genocide. It's completely demented to witness the dehumanization of a population and conclude that this Zionist savagery is done with the intent of making Israel safer.
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Israel didn't even bother painting Gaza's Indonesian Hospital as a covert Hamas base, it just bombed it to oblivion, tortured its staff and left it strewn with rotting corpses

This report is one of the most gut-wrenching documents I've seen of Israel's state terror

This is some nazi level depravity. Palestinians who survived a massacre can't even bury the piles of corpses around them because Israel isn't satisfied with the many hospital refugees they already murdered and these maniacal, sociopathic criminals want to finish them off.

Over 92% of those killed by IDF terrorists have been civilians.  Over 80% of the population in Gaza has been displaced. Clearly this isn't about preventing terrorism, that is just the excuse Israel uses to carry out an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
This has been the strategy of this terrorist organization from the start. They knew early on that they are hated globally so they tried to reduce that hatred by dropping a bomb (metaphorically) in the media and while everyone was busy debunking that nonsense they committed more horrifying crimes against humanity.

For example in early days they dropped the bomb about Hams having beheaded children and while the entire mainstream media was busy debunking that clear bullshit AI generated picture, the Israeli terrorists were actually burning Palestinian children by dropping napalm, phosphorous bombs on them.
Same with the bullshit they started about hospitals and while again the world was busy debunking that, the Israeli terrorists attacked a dozen other hospitals and medical centers murdering more and more innocent civilians.

Guess what. Even now that they've been defeated and were forced to accept a ceasefire and release the hostages they were torturing in their prisons for years (some for nearly 10 years) these terrorists have pulled out of Gaza but started murdering Palestinians in West Bank!

The bottom line is that the ethnically cleansing of Palestinians will not end until the terrorist organization is dismantled. The silver lining is that the days of the Zionist regime are numbered and the more innocent blood they shed the closer they get to that inevitable demise.
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I don't think IDF targets children in schools on purpose. No point, what military objective would that achieve?

I think they are bombing all sites where they believe Hamas terrorists are hiding.

They have to destroy Hamas and ALL its supporters, otherwise the Islamist terrorists win this war.

IDF purposely targets UN safezones. There are no Hamas agents within these safezones.

Their objective is to cause fear and terror in civilians. They're actual terrorists under international law.

And who told your this? Hamas?

The IDF objective is to eradicate Hamas.
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Israel didn't even bother painting Gaza's Indonesian Hospital as a covert Hamas base, it just bombed it to oblivion, tortured its staff and left it strewn with rotting corpses

This report is one of the most gut-wrenching documents I've seen of Israel's state terror

This is some nazi level depravity. Palestinians who survived a massacre can't even bury the piles of corpses around them because Israel isn't satisfied with the many hospital refugees they already murdered and these maniacal, sociopathic criminals want to finish them off.

Over 92% of those killed by IDF terrorists have been civilians.  Over 80% of the population in Gaza has been displaced. Clearly this isn't about preventing terrorism, that is just the excuse Israel uses to carry out an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
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I don't think IDF targets children in schools on purpose. No point, what military objective would that achieve?

I think they are bombing all sites where they believe Hamas terrorists are hiding.

They have to destroy Hamas and ALL its supporters, otherwise the Islamist terrorists win this war.

IDF purposely targets UN safezones. There are no Hamas agents within these safezones.

Their objective is to cause fear and terror in civilians. They're actual terrorists under international law.
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one of the billionaire leaders of Hamas (living comfortably in Qatar)
I wonder how many more times lies that come out of Israeli mouthpieces have to be debunked before people start realizing what kind of organization they are dealing with? I mean even the boy who cried wolf could only lie a couple of times before people stopped believing him!

It's kinda like bitcoin. They spread FUD and you panic sell once and lose money. That's OK, you fell for a lie, that happens to everyone. Then you do that a second time, that's still OK to be fooled twice. But then you do it a third time, a forth, fifth and ... times. At some point you should realize that there is something wrong with you!

I think they are bombing all sites where they believe Hamas terrorists are hiding.
Funny how Russia makes a similar claim when they bomb Ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructure. Russia is also trying to bomb where they believe the Ukrainian terrorists are located.

... oh I'm sorry I forgot that you guys don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot Grin
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Only a terrorist would support bombing children in schools.

Any justification to bomb children in schools is wrong. You do not bomb innocent United Nations workers __under any circumstance__.

These attacks have continued for weeks. They shown the inhumanity of Israel. Multiple international war criminal complaints have been issued.

I don't think IDF targets children in schools on purpose. No point, what military objective would that achieve?
Other than anger peaceful people on both sides of this conflict.

I think they are bombing all sites where they believe Hamas terrorists are hiding.

They have to destroy Hamas and ALL its supporters, otherwise the Islamist terrorists win this war.

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Only a terrorist would support bombing children in schools.

Any justification to bomb children in schools is wrong. You do not bomb innocent United Nations workers __under any circumstance__.

These attacks have continued for weeks. They shown the inhumanity of Israel. Multiple international war criminal complaints have been issued.
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The IDF are only doing their best to safeguard their country against terrorists attack from Hamas. The hamas are using innocent people to safeguard themselves against the attack from the IDF. We shouldn't be deceived because their is no country that would be attacked by a terrorist group like Hamas and will not attack back. What the IDF is doing is cleansing from future attacks. They have no option than to attack and clear any forms of attack on their land in the future.
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To be more precise, this is a war about religion, and I don't want to support either side because hatred will only make it worse. I have seen some short videos showing scenes of sides killing each other, it is terrifying, and the cruelty is nurtured by hatred.
Perhaps peace between them cannot be established, and the only way is for us to establish world order. But a big risk can cause us a lot of damage, and we enter WW3.
Hot areas around the globe are making different moves, and the issue of the war between Palestine and Israel could drag the entire Muslim world into war.
Don't be on the neutral side, you're only helping the oppressors which is clearly the IDF, I don't know about you but it should be morally wrong to declare war against the people that are literally your prisoner in your country. Have you look at what Palestine is situated at? If you looked you would know who's side you should be, Israel stole that land from the Palestinians anyway so how the hell are you not siding with the oppressed. You can't be terrified at stuff and be neutral in the war, that's hypocritical and stupid and you are talking about stupid stuff like possibility of WW3, are you that ignorant?
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Hamas was never supposed to launch such attack on Israel, to be honest. Did they believe it would end up well for them and the people in the Gaza strip? If they thought so, then they are simply idiots. Specially since they aimed at civilians, they exchanged the future and the life of thousands of innocent people in order to brag for a successful and short attack in Israel territory.
To me, whoever was in charge of this attack had no sense of strategy or military actions in the long term. Unless Hamas expected Israel to get scared and surrender that attacked territory to Hamas? It would be pretty foolish to even consider that was a possibility. They have the support of USA...

Actually, Hamas has two leaders and they denied that they had such a plan to attack on that day and possibly done by individuals even without the approval of the one who is in authority or even if a planned attack still it can be a reason to kill civilians and how Israel and allies justifies their actions as they retaliate in no different way than a terrorist organization.

Even if they did not plan to attack on that day or in that specific manner, I have already seen a couple of videos from one of the billionaire leaders of Hamas (living comfortably in Qatar) saying that they are planing to continue with the violence and repeat what happened in that day over and over again, until the state of Israel cease to exist.
So even if they did not plan to do any of this, they seem to be very happy and showing much enthusiasm for it to continue to happen.
The saddest part behind the loss of civilian life is the fact there are footsoldiers willing to get themselves captured or shot at because of the will and whim of those people living as kings in Qatar, they do not even bother to get their hands dirty for the cause they alledgely support and fight for...
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Hamas isn't some foreign force coming from another country or planet to fight its war in other people's homes!!!! Hamas is the Palestinians who have been getting killed for the past 70+ years. People who have had their children, parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. murdered by the Israeli terrorists. They are forced to pick up arms at some point and try to defend their homes against the invaders.
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To be more precise, this is a war about religion, and I don't want to support either side because hatred will only make it worse. I have seen some short videos showing scenes of sides killing each other, it is terrifying, and the cruelty is nurtured by hatred.
Perhaps peace between them cannot be established, and the only way is for us to establish world order. But a big risk can cause us a lot of damage, and we enter WW3.
Hot areas around the globe are making different moves, and the issue of the war between Palestine and Israel could drag the entire Muslim world into war.
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Hamas was never supposed to launch such attack on Israel, to be honest. Did they believe it would end up well for them and the people in the Gaza strip? If they thought so, then they are simply idiots. Specially since they aimed at civilians, they exchanged the future and the life of thousands of innocent people in order to brag for a successful and short attack in Israel territory.
To me, whoever was in charge of this attack had no sense of strategy or military actions in the long term. Unless Hamas expected Israel to get scared and surrender that attacked territory to Hamas? It would be pretty foolish to even consider that was a possibility. They have the support of USA...

Actually, Hamas has two leaders and they denied that they had such a plan to attack on that day and possibly done by individuals even without the approval of the one who is in authority or even if a planned attack still it can be a reason to kill civilians and how Israel and allies justifies their actions as they retaliate in no different way than a terrorist organization.
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Hamas was never supposed to launch such attack on Israel, to be honest. Did they believe it would end up well for them and the people in the Gaza strip? If they thought so, then they are simply idiots. Specially since they aimed at civilians, they exchanged the future and the life of thousands of innocent people in order to brag for a successful and short attack in Israel territory.
To me, whoever was in charge of this attack had no sense of strategy or military actions in the long term. Unless Hamas expected Israel to get scared and surrender that attacked territory to Hamas? It would be pretty foolish to even consider that was a possibility. They have the support of USA...
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.
You should stop watching propaganda "news" and read a history book sometime.

Hamas isn't some foreign force coming from another country or planet to fight its war in other people's homes!!!! Hamas is the Palestinians who have been getting killed for the past 70+ years. People who have had their children, parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. murdered by the Israeli terrorists. They are forced to pick up arms at some point and try to defend their homes against the invaders.

When any bloodthirsty organization keeps murdering people, there is always resistance forming against them. Whether it is 1940's and resistance is forming in Europe against the invading Nazis or it is the past 70 years and resistance is forming in Palestine against the invading Zionists.
They are all the same in nature. The only difference is that the propaganda outlets have been introducing the Palestinian resistance against invasion and genocide with an ugly face. And in the past month they are trying to tell those who know nothing of history that the genocide of Palestinians is happening for the first time and it is all because Hamas attacked first! They never tell you that Palestinians were being murdered by the Israeli terrorists for decades. They never tell you that for example there were no Hamas in the 80's when Israeli terrorists slaughtered 6000 innocent people in Sabra and Shatila where they even killed animals so that no living thing is left there!
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.

For clarity's sake, Hamas is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is in control of the Gaza Strip. Wars are not declared by public opinion. I have never seen any country where the citizens are asked to come and vote on war issues. The planning and execution of the attack on Israel was kept secret from the public, so the majority of people in Gaza knew nothing about the attack on Israel by Hamas so you cannot generalise that Palestinians supported the attack on Israel. I don't think anybody would blame an average citizen for the war in Gaza.
I think think we have s that thirteen hostages which include Thirteen Israeli citizens and 11 foreign nationals have been released today as part of the process to release about 50 women and children Israeli hostages. I think this is the first stage towards a peaceful resolution of this problem. There is no need for name calling or accusation regarding the war, this way need to stop. We have had enough death, it is time to stop the killing and seek for peace.
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Why would you tag IDF that are fighting for there could terrorists when it is obvious that Hamas are responsible for this shits that is happening in Palestine. What I have noticed about this war is that, it look like the Palestinians support the operation of the Hamas that is why they allow them to plant ammunition and rocket launchers in their locality.

 If the Palestinians never supported the Hamas, this war would have not started at all. Now we can see that the weaks ones like the children, less privileged, innocent people are the ones dying for what they have no idea about. If the world want the war to end as quick as possible, they have to tell the Iranians that is secretly sponsoring the Hamas to released the innocent people that was captured by the Hamas terrorist group.
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it’s been more than over a month since this war started
yet it is still going on

most of the countries in the un voted for a ceasefire but lists of the dead, from babies to old people alike, keep coming over and surfacing in the internet until now
civilians who have nothing to do with these are being affected, their lives are being ruined as we speak yet we can only do so little

how can we help? spread information and humanize Palestinians they are people whom also had a dream like any of us it’s quite regretful that thousand of innocent lives have been lost
Share all updates and relevant information about our topic to the world exactly just like you did
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Between bombing children in schools, killing UN workers, they also use white phosphorus against civilian populations.

Oh, they indiscriminately bomb UN declared safezones and have zero regard for life.

They arbitrary detain Palestinians and use them as hostages.

IDF assassinates journalist with zero hesitation or accountability, even if they're American.
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