If address is entered wrong for sent transaction anything can be done?

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Quote from: achow101 on July 16, 2015, 03:06:21 PM

Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 02:52:48 PM

Anyways, I got a reply back from this guy who tried to sell me and then sent the bitcoins using a wrong address. He said the hash doesn't have same amount of characters. They bitcoin address is what I was referring too, the hash is the tx id? Correct?
I am still newb so go easy on me. And I know I can search for this easily enough, but am at work so can not be on here long Lips sealed

Hard to know. Hashes are used everywhere in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin address is based off of two hashes, and missing a character should invalidate the address. The last several characters of an address is a checksum, which ensures that the address is correct. If the checksum doesn't match, then the whole thing is wrong and should never have sent.

That is what he must of meant.
Thanks for that descriptive reply. It makes it easier to see if he was trying to scam me or not.
Next time when I do a trade I should ask them to repeat the address they are sending to before hitting the send button in their wallet. Roll Eyes

Such a simple request to ask for, but we both were in a rush at that time.

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Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 02:52:48 PM

Anyways, I got a reply back from this guy who tried to sell me and then sent the bitcoins using a wrong address. He said the hash doesn't have same amount of characters. They bitcoin address is what I was referring too, the hash is the tx id? Correct?
I am still newb so go easy on me. And I know I can search for this easily enough, but am at work so can not be on here long Lips sealed

Hard to know. Hashes are used everywhere in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin address is based off of two hashes, and missing a character should invalidate the address. The last several characters of an address is a checksum, which ensures that the address is correct. If the checksum doesn't match, then the whole thing is wrong and should never have sent.

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Anyways, I got a reply back from this guy who tried to sell me and then sent the bitcoins using a wrong address. He said the hash doesn't have same amount of characters. They bitcoin address is what I was referring too, the hash is the tx id? Correct?
I am still newb so go easy on me. And I know I can search for this easily enough, but am at work so can not be on here long Lips sealed

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Quote from: cazkooo on July 16, 2015, 11:55:55 AM

Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 11:31:59 AM

You are certain if it is missing or has an extra character in the string of the bitcoin address that it will not send? I think I am getting taken for then.

Didnt you read shorena's answer for this? Shorena is the best person you can ask for about techinical issue like this and his answer is correct

Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 11:31:59 AM

Person said he got email confirmation from Qoinpro that the bitcoins were sent to that address with the missing "i" at the end, and repeated the bitcoin address like that in the confirmation email. They don't send tx id though, so can not have any proof it was sent in what blockchain.

Transaction hash is the best thing to prove if they send the btc or not. If they cant show the transaction hash then the transaction never happened.

I did read Shorena's answer and he said:
Im not entirely sure about how the network would handle this if their wallet software would ignore this though...

So I wanted so be certain.

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Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 11:31:59 AM

You are certain if it is missing or has an extra character in the string of the bitcoin address that it will not send? I think I am getting taken for then.

Didnt you read shorena's answer for this? Shorena is the best person you can ask for about techinical issue like this and his answer is correct

Quote from: Genesys on July 16, 2015, 11:31:59 AM

Person said he got email confirmation from Qoinpro that the bitcoins were sent to that address with the missing "i" at the end, and repeated the bitcoin address like that in the confirmation email. They don't send tx id though, so can not have any proof it was sent in what blockchain.

Transaction hash is the best thing to prove if they send the btc or not. If they cant show the transaction hash then the transaction never happened.

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Quote from: TriggerX on July 15, 2015, 09:28:45 PM

It won't send. This has happened to me more than I would like to admit :p . When I copy and paste an address, there might be a v on the end and luckily it won't send. If you accidently change your address by a letter it shouldn't verify or send (unless someone has that address) and I believe you get the bitcoins back.

You are certain if it is missing or has an extra character in the string of the bitcoin address that it will not send? I think I am getting taken for then. Person said he got email confirmation from Qoinpro that the bitcoins were sent to that address with the missing "i" at the end, and repeated the bitcoin address like that in the confirmation email. They don't send tx id though, so can not have any proof it was sent in what blockchain.

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It won't send. This has happened to me more than I would like to admit :p . When I copy and paste an address, there might be a v on the end and luckily it won't send. If you accidently change your address by a letter it shouldn't verify or send (unless someone has that address) and I believe you get the bitcoins back.

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Quote from: Karpeles on July 15, 2015, 05:50:26 PM

Happened to me more than once.

Sometimes there is a error about invalid address and nothing was done, but once I needed to contact support to refund my bitcoins.

I think all services should check if address is valid before trying to send anything to them

That's what I would think would happen especially if it was from a company that you are using to send from their wallet.
Thanks all for the help on this. If it happened more than once, then I have courage that they can do something about it, because it was for 0.5 btc which is a lot to lose on something like stupid spelling mistake that was made by the other party.

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Happened to me more than once.

Sometimes there is a error about invalid address and nothing was done, but once I needed to contact support to refund my bitcoins.

I think all services should check if address is valid before trying to send anything to them

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Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 03:08:34 PM

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Thanks Shorena. I hope this is the case. Are you sure they are rejected and sent back to sender, it is qoinpro so it was sent by their online wallet. How to verify this?

They should be able to verify this, yes.

Im not entirely sure about how the network would handle this if their wallet software would ignore this though. My assumption is that this would create an invalid transaction that is not accepted by any node and thus never left their system. If this is true it essentially is just a database problem as the coins are still in qoinpro's wallet, they just dont show them on your account.

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Quote from: shorena on July 15, 2015, 02:33:51 PM

Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

If someone has sent bitcoins using QoinPro but had the address wrongly entered(missing 1 character at the end) is there a way to retrieve that transaction?

There should be no transaction.

Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

Where does it go to if the address is wrong?

A properly defined client does not accept a wrong address. Addresses have a build in checksum to avoid this kind of mistake.

Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

Can their support correct this mistake on their system?

They should, yes.

Thanks Shorena. I hope this is the case. Are you sure they are rejected and sent back to sender, it is qoinpro so it was sent by their online wallet. How to verify this?

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Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

If someone has sent bitcoins using QoinPro but had the address wrongly entered(missing 1 character at the end) is there a way to retrieve that transaction?

There should be no transaction.

Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

Where does it go to if the address is wrong?

A properly defined client does not accept a wrong address. Addresses have a build in checksum to avoid this kind of mistake.

Quote from: Genesys on July 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM

Can their support correct this mistake on their system?

They should, yes.

Genesys

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If someone has sent bitcoins using QoinPro but had the address wrongly entered(missing 1 character at the end) is there a way to retrieve that transaction? Where does it go to if the address is wrong?
Can their support correct this mistake on their system?

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